was vsed by the Apostles their successors not deuised by Luther If therefore the three Creeds the two principall Sacraments of the Church the 22. bookes of Canonicall Scripture the first foure generall Councels the Apostolique Traditions the ancient Lyturgies the ordination of Pastors If I say all these were anciently taught and vniuersally receiued in all ages in the bosome of the Romane Church euen by the testimonies of our aduersaries themselues it is but a silly and senslesse question to demand of vs where our Church was before Luther The positiue doctrine which we teach is contained in a few principall points those also haue Antiquity and Vniuersality with the Consent of the Romane Church The points in controuersie which are sub Iudice in question are for the most part if not all additions to the Church and certainely frō those additions and new Articles of faith the question doth truly and properly result vpon themselues Where was your Church that is Where was your Trent doctrine and Articles of the Romane Creed receiued de Fide before Luther But admit our doctrine lay inuolued in the bosome of the Romane Church which no Romanist can deny I say admit it became hidden as good corne couered with chaffe or as fine gold ouerlayed with a greater quantitie of drosse was it therefore new and vnknowne because Poperie sought by a preuailing faction to obscure it was there no good corne in the Granary of the Church because till Luthers dayes it was not seuered from the chaffe no pure gold because our aduersaries would not refine it by the fire of Gods word If the chaffe and drosse be ours or if our Church sauour of nothing but Noueltie and heresie as some of these men pretend let them remoue from the bosome of their owne Church that new and hereticall doctrine which they say was neuer heard of before Luther and tell mee if their Church will not prooue a poore senslesse carkasse a dead body without a soule Take away the three Creeds which we professe our two Sacraments the 22. bookes of Canonicall Scripture the Apostolicall Traditions the foure first general Councels and tell me such light chaffe new heresies as they how stile them being remoued if their twelue new Articles their fiue base Sacraments the Apostolicall Scriptures their vnwritten verities and Traditions will make a true visible Church It is true that wee denie their additions there aliquod amplius because they are grounded on humane authoritie and want the foundation of the Scriptures wee denie Purgatorie Inuocation of Saints Works of Supererrogation worship of Images and the like and if our Religion be therfore termed Negatiue for deniall of those things who sees not but for the like reason they themselues wil stand guiltie of the same aspersion Do not they denie the substance of bread after Consecration doe not they denie the Scriptures to the Laitie Marriage to the Priests the Cup to the Lay people the Supremacie to their Soueraigne in his own dominions and may not we for these and the like reasons protest against them that therfore theirs is a Negatiue Religion But that the world may know wee obtrude not these things by way of recrimination it shall appeare by their owne confession the Traditions which we deny are declined by the best learned amongst themselues Nay more they doe not onely acknowledge those things which we hold but the most ingenious of them are ashamed also of those additions which wee denie As for instance we charge them with the worship of Images they denie it or leastwise excuse their manner of adoration but they condemne not vs for not worshipping We accuse them for praying in an vnknowne tongue they excuse it that God knowes the meaning of the heart but they do not condemne vs for praying with the spirit and with vnderstanding Wee condemne them for adoring the elements of bread and wine in the Sacrament because it depends vpon the intention of the Priest they excuse it Jnnocentius the third Adoro te si tu es Christus that they adore vpon condition If the consecrated bread be Christ but they doe not cōdemne vs for adoring Christs reall body in heauen we accuse them for taking away the Cup from the Lay people they excuse it that it was not taken vp by the Commandement of the Bishops Coster Enchirid de commun sub vtraque specie Anno 1414. but it crept in the Bishops winking thereat saith Costerus but they did not condemne vs for following Christs example and receiuing in both kinds Lastly we accuse them for their priuate Masses contrarie to Christs institution and the custome of the Primitiue Church Harding in B. Jewel ca. Priuat Masse they excuse it That it is through their own default and negligence whereof saith Master Harding the godly and faithfull people since the time of the Primitiue Church haue much complained and which is remarkable and comfortable to all beleeuing Protestants we charge them with flat idolatrie in the adoration of the Sacrament in Reliques in Saints in Images and howsoeuer they excuse themselues in distinguishing their manner of adoration yet I say to our endlesse comfort be it spoken they cannot charge vs in the positiue doctrine of our Church no not with the least suspition of idolatrie Sect. 9. The testimonies of our Aduersaries touching the Protestant and the Romane faith in the particulars PARAG. 1. Iustification by faith onely THese things premised I will proceed to the examination of witnesses both for the Antiquitie of our doctrine and the Noueltie of theirs but before I go to publication I will present you with two Records for two principall points of our faith by which euidences it shal appeare that the Word and Sacraments the proper marks of a true Church were rightly preached and duely administred here in England in the most obscure ages long before Luthers daies I say it shall appeare that before and after the Conquest the Priests and professors of those times protested openly against the doctrine of Romish merits preaching saluation through Christ alone and withall publikely professed and administred the same Sacraments in the same faith and truth which wee teach and administer at this day In the dayes of Anselme Archbishop of Canterburie about the yeare 1080. there was a set and publique forme of prayer prescribed for the visitation of the sicke Cass in append ad opus Jo. Roffen de fiducia misericordia Dei. and this forme saith Cassander in Bibliothecis passim obuia was commonly to be had and read in all Libraries The wordes are plaine and fully consonant to the faith our Church professeth Ordo Baptizandi visitandi edit venet Anno 1575. Dost thou beleeue to come to glorie not by thine owne merits but by the vertue and merit of the passion of our Lord Iesus Christ dost thou beleeue that our Lord Iesus Christ did dye for our saluation and that none can
persons and worse then Infidels which vnchristian speeches dipt in lye and gall giue vs iust cause to say with Austen Quotidiana fornax nostra aduersariorilingua Aug. Confess lib. 10. c. 37. Our daily fornace is our aduersaries tongue It cannot bee denied that the reformed and the ancient Romane Church are two Sisters both descended from one and the same Catholike and vniuersall Mother of vs all but when the world shall vnderstand that the Romish Sister hath lost her breasts or at least-wise giueth her Children little or no sincere milke out of her two breasts the two Testaments when the world shall plainely discerne that shee doth daily practise spirituall fornication with the inhabitants of the earth when it shall be witnessed by her selfe that her Sister hath kept her first loue and continued her ancient birth-right from the time of the Apostles to the dayes of Luther Will it not seeme a strange folly or a wilful madnesse to quarrell with her Sister because she will not follow her vnknowne wayes and go a whoring after her inuentions If for no other cause yet for this alone because she played the Harlot her Sister might better iustifie a separation from her then to retaine fellowship with her lewdnesse It is the counsell of the Prophet Hos 4.15.17 If Ephraim be ioyned to Idols let him alone If Israel play the Harlot let not Iuda sinne Babylon was a true Church with which sometimes the religious did communicate but after it was more depraued the faithfull are commanded to go out of her and for that cause Abraham was commanded to go forth of Caldea wherein hee was borne because the inhabitants of the countrey were idolators and the Hebrewes were led out of Egypt by Moses and Aaron because the Egyptians were giuen to vaine superstitions such is our departure from the Church of Rome or rather from the errours of that Church that hath departed from her selfe and for that cause Non fugimus sed fugamur we left her vnwillingly not voluntarily That we bee not partakers of her sinne Reu. 18.4 and that wee receiue not of her plagues That saying of Erasmus was no lesse true then wittie who being demanded of the Duke of Saxonie what was Luthers capitall offence that stirred vp so many opposites against him made answer Luther had committed two great sinnes for he had taken away the Crowne from the Pope and had taken downe the belly of the Monkes and surely setting aside the Popes Lordlines and the luxurie of Priests it shall appeare there is no such cause why she should breathe out Anathemas Curses Excommunications with a Tradatur Satanae let her Sister be deliuered to Satan There is no such cause why shee should daily entertaine Iewes into her bosome when a poore Christian soule a beleeuing Protestant may not approch to her sanctuary for feare of the Inquisition Nobis non licet esse tam disertos The children of this world are wiser in their generation then wee professe our selues to be For as touching the twelue Articles of the Apostles Creed which are the maine parts of the Christian Truth Hoochers Ecclesiasticall Politis and wherein the Church of Rome doth still persist we gladly acknowledge her to bee of the family of Iesus saith Hooker and that which Saint Paul witnessed of the Israelites that in one respect they were enemies Rom. 11.28 but in another they were beloued of God so likewise as concerning the word of God and the Apostles Creed we giue the Church of Rome her due but in another respect as she hath created twelue new Articles and coyned new expositions vpon the old farre different from the doctrine of the Apostles as she depends vpon customarie Tenents which makes their chiefe claime by Tradition as shee relyes vpon the Church for the last resolutiō of faith as she maintaineth and practiseth manifest and manifold Idolatrie as she derogateth from the high price of our Redemption by adding their owne merits and satisfactions to the Merits of Christ as she aduanceth the Pope for the Lord Paramont aboue all that are called Gods In these and many like respects we say her Tenure is meane and base her Tenets are subiect to alienation her Articles are euidences of an vnknowne Truth her vnwritten verities are prescriptions within the memorie of man her Title is vsurpation her confidence is presumption her deuotion is superstition and shee her selfe a professed enemy to the Gospell Sect. 2. The occasion of the contention betwixt the Churches originally proceeded from the Romanists by their owne confession BVt before we enter into the debates and differences of these times it will not be amisse to looke backe and examine the cause of this great calamitie and distraction in the Christian Church and to inquire by whom and what meanes this bitter contention is fallen out betwixt two Sisters Cassander a learned Papist tooke speciall notice that these two sisters were fallen asunder euen to the diuiding of the houshold hee obserued the Author of those fresh bleeding wounds and accordingly as an eye-witnesse of those differences protesteth openly that the fault is to bee layed vpon those which being puffed vp with vaine insolent conceits of their Ecclesiasticall power Cassand Consult 56. 57. proudly and scornefully contemned and reiected them which did rightly and modestly admonish the reformation If we shall further inquire of him what remedy to apply to such incurable diseases he professeth seriously that the Church can neuer hope for any firme peace vnlesse they begin to make it which haue giuen the cause of that distraction If we further presse him for his aduise how to procure that Peace from them which first occasioned the falling off he replies and confidently assures vs that this cannot be effected vnlesse those which are in place of Ecclesiasticall gouernment would be content to remit some thing of their too much rigour and yeeld somewhat to the peace of the Church and hearkening vnto the earnest prayers and admonitions of many godly men will set themselues to correct manifest abuses according to the rule of diuine Scriptures and the Primitiue Church from which they haue swerued Here is a plaine confession of a learned Romanist that many abuses are crept into the Romane Church here is likewise an acknowledgement of a distemperature that proceedeth from the head and we know when the head is distempered commonly the whole body is out of order Now to rectifie these abuses he prescribes a Rule which is the holy Scriptures and he sets before vs an ancient patterne for our instruction which is the Primitiue Church If the Scripture be the rule of Truth and the ancient doctrine be the patterne of a true Church how can our Religion bee charged with heresie which professeth the Scripture to be the sole rule of faith or how can it be iustly accused of Noueltie as deriued from Luther when it is a Canon published for the direction of Preachers and Pastors
in our Church viz. that they should neuer teach any thing as matter of faith religiously to be obserued Jn lib. Can. dis Eccles Ang. cap. 6. p. 19. but that which is agreeable to the doctrine of the old and new Testament and collected out of the same doctrine by the ancient Fathers and Catholique Bishops of the Church Let vs ascend higher and looke into former ages and there let vs examine whether these two Sisters agreed in vnitie of doctrine in one and the same house It is reported of Redwald king of the East Saxons Camdens Britannia Eng. pa. 465. that he was the first of all his Nation that was baptized and receiued Christianitie but afterward being seduced by his wife hee had in the selfe same Church saith Bede one Altar for Christs Religion and another for sacrifices vnto diuels Such was the state of the Romane Church especially in the ages after the diuell was let loose there were some that did consecrate themselues and their seruice to the right worship of God alone others to the adorations of Saints and Images there were some that did constantly adore the Creator in his bodily presence in heauen whilst others in the same Church did ignorantly worship the Creature in a consecrated host vpon the Altar and thereupon Michael Cecaenas Generall of the order of Franciscans about 400. yeares past obseruing the different opinions of different members in the same Church complained There were two Churches Mich. Cecaenas contra Tyrannidem Papae the one of the wicked sort flourishing in which the Pope raigned the other of godly good men and this Church he persecuted This learned Friar by his discouerie of two Churches shewes that long since there was a difference in Religion betwixt the two Sisters and thereby he plainly intimates the different estate betwixt Papist and Protestant in the same Church the maior part was subiect to the Pope and that flourished and was visible in the eyes of the world but saith the Franciscan that part consisted of the wicked and consequently was the malignant Church the other part was obscured and persecuted by the Pope but saith he it consisted of the faithfull and true beleeuers and consequently was the true Church I could ascend yet higher and shew that the falling out of the two Sisters was about a husband the one was constant to her first loue Christ Iesus the sole head of her Church the other sought a diuorce from her husband acknowledging the Pope to be the vniuersall head of all Churches but I leaue this to a longer time and a larger Tract Sect. 3. Corruptions both in faith and manners confessed by the members of the Romane Church and yet the reformation denyed by the Pope and why c. IF we looke vpon the latter ages wee shall easily discerne an alteration of Religion by the complaints of Head and members in the same Church Anno 1411. Dixit quòd ipse volebat vacare circa reformationeÌ„ Ecclesiae c. Pope Alexander the fifth in the yeare 1411. promiseth solemnly to intend the Reformation of the Church and for that purpose to assemble the most learned of all Nations yet nothing was performed At the Councell of Senes in the yeare 1423. this proposition of Reformation was reuiued Anno 1423. but withall it was adiourned de die in diem Quaestorum abusus quorum malitia ita quotidie magno fideliuÌ„ scandalo querela deprehenditur vt eorum emendatione spes nulla relicta videatur Concil Trident Sess 21. c. 9. Bin. Cum multa iam siue teÌ„porum vitio siue hominuÌ„ in curia improbitate irrepsisse vi deantur quaeà tanti sacrificij dignitate aliena sunt Concil Trident Sess 22. Decretum de obseruandis euitandis c. and the day of their reformation is not yet come If we come nearer to these times the Councell of Trent in Paul the thirds time complained of Indulgences an Article of the Romane faith That the Popes officers in collectings of mony for those Indulgences gaue a scandall to all faithfull Christians which might seeme to be without all hope of remedy They complained in general that there were many errors and corruptions crept into the Masse by the error of time and wickednesse of men they confesse in particular that Priests for couetousnesse and gaine made contracts and bargaines to say Masses for money in so much it was obserued that the Priest alone said stragling Masses in a corner of the Church for a Tester at the request of him that payed for them Moulin of the Euchar. cap. 21. they confesse that wanton and lasciuious songs were mingled with the Organs and other Church musicke Ab Ecclesijs vero Musicas eas vbi siue organo siue cantu lasciuum aut impurum aliquid miscetur c. Concil Trid. ibid. Agrippa de vanit Scien cap. 18. and this is likewise complained of by their owne Agrippa Hodie c. saith he At this day obsoene and filthie songs haue their intercourse with the Canon of the Masse and as concerning superstitious Ceremonies as namely the certaine number of their candels at their Masses they confessed they were first inuented rather out of superstitious deuotion then true Religion Quorundam vero Missarum candelarum certum numeruÌ„ qui magis à superstitioso cultu quam à vera religione inuentus est omninò ab Ecclesia remoueant Jdem ibid. neither did these men seeke a reformation in manners onely but in the doctrine it selfe they confessed that the Masse wherein the Priest and people did communicate together was more fruitfull Concil Trid. Sess 22. c. 6. Optaret sacro sancta Synodus c. they professed openly and wished vnfainedly that priuate Masse might be restored to the ancient custome and the practise of the Reformed Churches which communicate ioyntly and seuerally with Priests and people together And as concerning Latine Seruice in their Church although the councell did not allow that at all times and in all places it should be celebrated in the vulgar tongue yet they confesse that the Masse doth containe great instruction for the faithfull Etsi Missa magnam coÌ„tineai populi fidelis eruditionem non tamen expedire visum est Patribus vt vulgari lingua passim celebrar tur quamobrem ne oues Christi esuriant neue paruuli panem petant non sit qui frangat ijs Mandat sancta Synodus Pastoribus singulis curaÌ„ animarum gerentibus vt frequentèr inter Mâ—ssaruÌ„ celebrationeÌ„ vel per se vel per alios ex ijs quâ—e in Missa leguntur aliquid exponant at que inter â—â—etera sanctissimi huius sacrifiâ—ij mysterium ali quod declarent Sess 22. c. 8. and therefore say they lest the sheepe of Christ should thirst and the children should craue bread and none should be present to breake it to them Mandat sancta Synodus c. The holy Synod commands
locum interpretari Maldon in Ioh. 6. v. 50. num 80. 81. had liued in these our daies would haue beene of another minde when hee had once perceiued the Caluinists interpretation to bee almost the same and Gregory de Valentia obseruing the manifest testimonies of Theodoret viz. That the consecrated elements did remaine in their proper substance and shape and figure returnes the like answer Minimè mirū est si vnut aut alter aut etiam aliqui ex veteribus minimè considerate rectê hâc de re senserint Greg. de valent de Transubstan lib. 2. cap. 7. It is not to bee maruailed if one or more of the ancient Fathers before the question of Transubstantiation was throughly debated in the Church haue both thought lesse considerately and truelie concerning Transubstantiation and this is an answer saith he briefe and simple and no way inconuenient Thus it seemes Theodoret with other Fathers were ignorant of the greatest mysteries of their saluation and Saint Austin did not rightly vnderstand the corporall presence for hee would haue changed his opinion if he had liued in these daies but their learned Cardinall Cusanus is not so reserued in his opinion of the Fathers hee speakes plainely and openly Cusan exercet lib. 6. that certaine of the Ancient Diuines are found of this minde that the bread in the Sacrament is not Transubstantiated or changed in nature but remaineth still and is cloathed with an other substance more noble then it selfe and for a conclusion of this point many writers and Schoolemen in their owne Church are so farre from granting antiquity and vniuersality to this doctrine that they professe the Tenet of Transubstantiation was lately receiued into the Church for a point of faith Nota. Vnum addit Scotus quod minimè probandū quod ante Lateranense Concilium non fuisse dogma fidei Bellar. lib. 3. de Euchar cap. 23. Scotus tels vs that before the Councell of Lateran Transubstantiation was not beleeued as a point of faith This did Bellarmine obserue as a thing remarkeable Suar. in 3. Thom. in Enchar disp 50. Sect. 2. p. 602 and Suarez his fellow Iesuite protesteth the Schoolemen which teach the doctrine of Transubstantiation is not very ancient ought to be corrected such as Scotus was It is confessed then that Scotus and other Schoolemen did acknowledge Transubstantiation for 〈◊〉 doctrine and it is most probable that such Schoolemen liuing not long after the Councell of Lateran where that doctrine was decreed for a point of faith best vnderstood the Tenets of those times In like manner Durand and some of his fellow Schoolemen after him professed openly that the materiall part or substance of the Sacramentall bread was not conuerted These testimonies are so true and euident to the world that Bellarmine doth confesse and auoid that saying of Scotus with à minimè probandum c. it must not be allowed and as touching Durand he answereth his doctrine is hereticall Bellar. de Euchar lib. 3. cap. 13. but he is no heretique because he is ready to submit to the iudgement of the Church To let passe Whicleffe the Waldenses and others who were condemned for heretiques for professing the same doctrine Durand in 4 Sent. dist 10. q. 1. num 13. Their owne Proselites Hostiensis and Gaufridus tell vs that there were others in those daies who taught the substance of bread did remaine and this opinion say they was not to be reiected If we descend to this last age their owne learned Tonstall professeth that the beleefe of Transubstantiation within lesse then 500 yeares was a matter of indifferencie not an Article of faith Of the manner and meanes of the reall presence how it might bee either by Transubstantiation or otherwise perhaps it had beene better to leaue to euery man that would bee curious to his owne coniecture De modo quo id fieret fortassè Satiùs erat curiosū quemque relinquere coniectura sicut liberum fuit antè Concilium Lateranse Tonstall de Enchaer lib. 1. p. 46. Eras Annot. in Corinth 7. as before the Councell of Lateran it was left and lastly there owne Erasmus concludes with à serò definiuit Ecclesia c. It was late ere the Church defined Transubstantiation Since therefore the Protestant faith touching the Spirituall and Sacramentall participation of Christs body was generally taught and beleeued in the former and the latter ages since the doctrine of Transubstantiation hath no Vnitie amongst the Romish Authors no Vniuersality amongst the ancient Fathers no certainty in the Sacred Scriptures Saint Austins confession shall be my conclusion Siuè de Christo siuè de Ecclesia siuè de quacunque aliâ re quae pertinet ad fidem vitam que nostram non dicam nos nequaquam comparandi ei qui dixit sed fi Angelus de coelo vobis anuntiauerit preter quam quod in Scripturis Legalibus Euangelicis accepistis Anathema sit Aug. Contr. liter Petil. lib. 3. cap 6. Whether concerning Christ or his Church or any thing that appertaineth to our faith and life I will not say if we who are no way to bee compared to him that so spake but if an Angell from heauen shall preach vnto you any thing besides that you haue receiued in the Legall and Euangelicall Scriptures let him be accursed PARAG. 3. Priuate Masse Si quis dixerit Missas in quibus solus sacerdo Sacramētaliter communicat esse illicitas ideoque abrogandas Anathema sit Cōcil Trident. can 8. IT is decreed by the Councell of Trent If any shall say that Masses in which the Priest alone doth Communicate are vnlawfull and therfore ought to be abrogated let him bee accursed Here is a Curse proclaimed against all or any that shall condemne Priuate Masse as vnlawfull and herein the Protestants stand in danger of a Cursing Councell for it is an Article of the Reformed Church Priuate Masses Artic. of Ireland Art 100. that is the receiuing of the Eucharist by the Priest alone without a competent number of Communicants is contrarie to the institution of Christ and the practise of the Primitiue Church and hence it will follow that Priuate Masse is vnlawfull and therefore to be abrogated Now hee that curseth vs curseth Christ that ordained it and God that commanded vs to obserue it It was the answer in the like case made by a right Reuerend and learned Prelate of our Church B. Bilson the difference betweene Chri. Subiect Antichri Rebel pag. 657. If wee haue altered any part of Christs Institution Curse on in Gods name and let your Curses take effect but if the celebration of our Mysteries be answerable to his will and word that first ordained them You curse not vs whom You would hurt but him that your cursed tongues cannot hurt which is God to be blessed for euer The Communion which is vsed together with Priest and people in our Church is deriued from Christ himselfe for
It may be obiected that in the time of the Apostles all the people in diuine Seruice did answer one Amen and this custome continued long in the East and West Churches as appeares by Chrysostome Cyprian Hierome c. In answer hereunto he saith When the Christians were but few they did all sing together at the time of diuine Seruice but when the number of people did increase the office of publique seruice was diuided and it was left onely to the Church to celebrate the Common Prayers Here we haue the seueral confessions of our learned Aduersaries that in the first ages publique prayers were vsed for the vnderstanding of the people and they giue a speciall reason for it to wit for the better conformity of the Heathen and ignorant people in the doctrine of Christianity Harding Now as you haue heard the reasons why the Seruice was vsed amongst the Ancients in the knowne tongue so likewise you shall vnderstand one special cause of the alteration of it in the Romane Church It is reported saith Honorius when the Canon of the Masse in the Primitiue times was publiquely read and vnderstood of all Honorius in Gemma Animae l. 1. de Canone Cass Lyturg. c. 28. certaine Shepheards hauing learned the words of consecration and pronouncing them ouer their bread and wine in the fields suddenly their bread and wine were transubstantiated into flesh and bloud and the shepheards likewise for their presumption in vsing the words of Consecration were strucken dead by the hand of God So that by Honorius confession the Canon of the Masse was anciently read and vnderstood of all and which is strange Aut Pastor fuit aut illud quod dicere nolo Iuuenal shepheards did transubstantiate bread and wine and as it seemes chiefely occasioned the alteration of the Church seruice into the Latin and vnknowne tongue Cassander Lyturg 28. p. 65. Pope Innocent the third and Iohannes Bilethus relate the same storie but withall adde another reason why the Church decreed the Seruice in an vnknowne language Ne sacrosancta verba vilescerent The Church commanded that such prayers and seruice should be secretly deliuered by the priest lest that the knowne words of the sacred Scripture should grow triuiall and of no account Sicut sacra Scriptura est ne vilescat Beleth de diuinis officijs Cass p. 65. And the Councell of Trent three hundred yeares after in confirmation of that decree addes a more weightie reason for a conclusion Histor of Trent lib. 5. p. 460. that this inconuenience would follow all would thinke themselues Diuines the authoritie of Prelats would be disesteemed and all would become heretiques It is to be wondred how the Church is altered in this point saith Erasmus but it is to bee lamented that poore ignorant soules should bee captiuated with such sillie reasons Eras in 1. Cor. 14. and that faithfull beleeuers shold be accursed for heretiques for following the examples of the Apostles and the Primitiue Church euen by the testimonies of the best learned amongst themselues since therefore Prayer and Seruice in an vnknowne tongue wants antiquity frō the written word or rather since it is forbidden by the word of the Apostle Saint Austins confession shall bee my conclusion If we or an Angell from heauen preach vnto you any thing concerning faith and life besides that you haue receiued in the Legal and Euangelicall Scriptures let him be accursed PARAG. 7. Worship of Images IT is the ninth Article of the Romane Creed Artic. 9. I doe resolutely affirme that the Images of Christ and of the Virgin Mary and also of other Saints are to bee had and retained and that due honour and veneration is to be yeelded to them This Article was decreed in the ninth Session of the Councel of Trent where it was declared Concil Trid. Sess 9. We teach that the Images of Christ the Virgin mother of God and other Saints are chiefly in Churches to bee had and retained and that due honour and worship is to be giuen vnto them This doctrine of Image worship we absolutely denie and condemne as a wicked and blasphemous opinion first because their Article of faith doth not onely want the authoritie of the Scripture which an Article of faith ought to haue but because the Scripture doth flatly and plainely forbid it Leuit. 26. Exod. 20. Deut. 4. Esay 40. If we looke vpon the old Law before the comming of Christ Vasques the Iesuite confesseth Vasq disp 104 in 3. Thom. c. 6. So farre forth euerie Image was forbidden as it was dedicated to adoration therefore neither the Cherubins nor any other Images had any worship in the Temple And Coruel us Agrippa tells vs the Iewes did abhorre nothing more then Images neither did they make any Image that they worshipped insomuch as when Caligula the Emperour was desirous to haue his owne Image set vp in the Church of Hierusalem king Agrippa makes him this answer Philo Indaeus lib. de Legatione ad Caiū This Temple ô Caligula from the first beginning to this time neuer yet admitted any Image being the house of God for the workes of Painters and Caruers are the Images of materiall gods but to paint the inuisible God or to faine a representation of him our Ancestors did account it a wickednesse And that which is more to be lamented the worship of Images at this day is such a stumbling block to the Iewes and a hindrance to their conuersion that when they come to the Christians Sermons as in Rome they are inioyned once at least euery yeare so long as they see the Preacher direct his speech and prayer to a little woodden crucifix that stands on the pulpit by him to call it his Lord and Sauiour to kneele to it to imbrace it to kisse it to weepe vpon it as it is the fashion in Italie it is preaching sufficient for them and perswades them more with the verie sight of it Sir Edward Sands his descrip of the Religion in the West parts to hate Christian Religion then any reason the world can alledge to loue it It is agreed there on both sides that in the old Law the Iewes neuer allowed adoration of Images for almost foure thousand yeares and this was concerning the Images of God the Father Now let vs descend from the Law to the Testament and see what order was taken by Christ and his Apostles for the representation of him his Saints after him It is manifest and without question that the Law of God made against Images Vasques Dico praeceptum illud de non adorandis figuris non fuisse legis naturae sed tantum positiui◠ceremoniale temporale in tempore Euāgelij cessare debere Vasq l. 2. disp 4. ca. 4 num 83. c. 7. num 115 is a Morall Law and stands in force at this day against Iewes and Gentiles And although Peresius and Catharinus
and Vasques the Iesuite would vnderstand the Law against Images to be a positiue and Ceremoniall Law and therefore to cease at the entrance of the Gospell Haec opinio no bis non probatur Bellar. de Jmag. l. 2. c. 7. yet Bellarmine disauowes that construction with a Non probatur This opinion is not allowed of vs both for the reasons made against the Iewes and for that Iraeneus Tertullian Cyprian and Augustine doe all teach the commandements excepting the Sabbath are a Law naturall and morall If therfore the old commandement be not abrogated let vs see what example or precept there is in the Gospell for adoration M. Fisher in D. Whites reply p. 226. Master Fisher the Iesuite tels vs In the Scripture there is no expresse practise nor precept of worshipping the Image of Christ yet there bee Principles which the light of Nature supposed conuince adoration to be lawfull So that from the law of God and the law of grace we are at last returned to the Law of Nature and from the light of Nature an Article of faith must be declared I haue read of Varro a heathen Phylosopher who from the instinct of Nature professed the contrarie doctrine The Gods saith he are better serued without Images Castius Dij obseruantur sine simula chris August de Ciuit. Deo li. 4. cap. 31. And Saint Austin conceiues this Tenet of his to be so good a principle in Nature that he condescends to his opinion and testifies thus much in his behalfe Although Varro attained not to the knowledge of the true God yet how neare he came to the truth in this saying who doth not see it Now the reason why these Fathers condemned the worshippers of Images for heretiques and idolaters is rendred by Eusebius Euseb Eccles hist lib. 7. cap. 17. Engl. Because saith he the men of old of a Heathenish custome were wont after that manner to honour such as they counted Sauiours And thereupon after that Images had got footing among the Christians the Bishops and Emperours by Councels and commands tooke speciall care to preuent them both in the making and the worshipping The Councell of Eliberis at Granado in Spaine Concil Elibert Can. 36. decreed That no pictures should be in Churches lest that which was worshipped should be painted on the wals And the good Emperours Valens and Theodosius made proclamation to all Christians against the Images of Christ in this manner Petrus Crinitus l. 9. ca. 9. For as much as wee haue a diligent care in all things to maintaine the Religion of the most high God therefore wee suffer no man to fashion to graue or paint the Image of our Sauiour either in colours or in stone or in any other kinde of mettall or matter but wheresoeuer any such Image shall be found wee command it to be taken downe assuring our subiects that wee will most strictly punish all such as shall presume to attempt any thing contrarie to our decrees and commandements I forbeare to cite the particular Fathers that opposed and condemned the worship of Images in the Primitiue Church it may suffice this doctrine wants a foundation in the Scriptures by their owne confession and now it shall appeare they want the visibilitie of the ancient Church and the testimonies of holy Fathers by the like acknowledgement of the learned Romanists amongst themselues Rectè ob euacuandam superstitioneÌ„ ab orthodoxis Patribus definituÌ„ est Picturas in Ecclesia sieri non dabere ne quod coli tur adoratur c. E Bibliotheca Papyrij Nasoni in ijs libellis de picturis Imaginibus Agobardus Bishop of Lyons The orthodoxe Fathers for auoiding of superstition did carefully prouide that no pictures should be set vp in Churches lest that which is worshipped should be painted on the walls There is no example in all the Scriptures or Fathers for adoration of Images they ought to be taken for an ornament to please the sight not to instruct the people Hinema Rernens contr Hincmarum Hincmarus Archbishop of Rhemes In the raigne of Charles the Great the sea Apostolique willing it so to be a generall Synod was kept in Germanie by the conuocation of the said Emperour JandunenseÌ„ Episc c. 20. and thereby the rule of Scriptures and doctrine of the Fathers the false Councell of the Grecians concerning worship of Images was confuted and vtterly reiected Cassander Quantum veteres initio ecclesiae ab omni veneratione Imaginum abhorruerunt declarat vnus Origin aduersus CelsuÌ„ c. Cassand Consult de simulachris How much the ancient Fathers in the Primitiue Church did abhorre all manner of worshipping Images Origen declares against Celsus and Austin in his manners of the Catholique Church and Ambrose in his fifth book of his Epistles and 31. do sufficiently declare Peresius Aiala Peres Omnes fere Scholastici in hoc sunt quo Image Christi sanctorum adorari debeat eadem adoratione quâ res quae representaÌ„tur huius doctrinae nulluÌ„ quod ego viderim afferuÌ„t validuÌ„ fundamentum non neque Scripturam neque traditionem ecclesiae neque coÌ„muneÌ„ consensuÌ„ sanctorum neque concilij gratis determinationem aliquam nec etiam rationeÌ„ quâ hoc efficaciter suaderi possit adducant Epis copus Guidi xiensis lib. de Tradit par 2. c. de Imag. p. 158. Statuit olim vniuersalis Ecclesia legitima occasione inductae propter illos qui erant ex Gentibus ad fideÌ„ conuersi vt nulle in Templis imagines ponerentur Nich. Clem. l. de noÌ„ celeb non in stit 11. Ea vt Polyd. Non medó nostrae religionis expertes sed teste Hieronymo omnes ferè veteres sancti Patres daÌ„nabant ob metum idolatriae c. Pol. de Inuent ReruÌ„ l. 6. c. 13Vsque ad atatem Hieronymi erant probatae religionis viâ—i qui in Templis nullam ferebant imagineÌ„ nec picturaÌ„ nec sculptaÌ„ c. Eras in Catechesi Corruptus GentiliuÌ„ mos falsa religio nostram quoque religioneÌ„ infecit c Cornel. Agr. de vanit scient c. 57. Wicel epist in exercit verae Ptetatis All Schoolemen in a manner hold that the Images of Christ and the Images of Saints are to be worshipped with the same adoration that there samplars are but they produce not so farre as I haue seene any sound proofe of this doctrine to wit either Scriptures or Tradition of the Church or common consent of Fathers or the determination of a generall Councell or any other effectual reason sufficient to perswade a man to that beleefe Nicholas Clemangis The vniuersall Church did anciently decree that no Images should be set vp in Churches and this was done for the Gentiles sake who were conuerted to Christianitie Polydore Virgill The worshipping of Images not onely those who knew not our Religion but as Saint Hierome witnesseth almost all the ancient Fathers condemned for feare of
Indulgences the worship of Images and the like these are fundamentall points and most of them taught and receiued for Articles of faith yet by our Aduersaries manifold confessions were vnknowne to former ages and how those Bishops and Martyrs could suffer and die in that faith which was not receiued in the ancient Church is a misterie vnsearchable and a Martyrdome past finding out Thus our aduersaries haue compassed sea land and by Imagination ascended into Heauen to seeke for members of their Church yet their doctrine of faith which they claime from the Primitiue Church is but an Imaginary faith their Martyrs which they challenge and assume into the Catalogue of those Saints are but Imaginarie persons their Miracles which they so much magnifie are but Imaginarie and false and lastly the Heauen which they claime as a common appendant to their Church is the Iesuites heauen but by Imagination Sect. 17. Our Aduersaries common obiection drawne from the charitable opinion of Protestans touching the saluation of professed Romanists liuing and dying in their Church Answered I come to the last and greatest wonder The Romanists haue confessed that their doctrine is different from the Ancient Church in many principall points of their faith yet say they there is no saluation to be had but in the Romane Church Fieri nequit vt Lutheranus moriens saluetur Coster resp ad refut Osiandr propos 8. No saith Costerus Fieri nequit c. It cannot be that any dying a Lutheran can be saued No doubt there is a woman a Church a Cittie which reigneth ouer the Kings of the earth which sitteth on seuen Mountaines which is drunke with the bloud of Saints and Martyrs which hath multitudes and Nations and tongues at her command and if this bee the Lutheran Church or any of the Reformed Churches questionlesse there is damnation to be feared for it was foretold She ascends out of the bottomelesse pit Reuel 17. and shall goe into perdition but blessed be God their markes cannot bee applied to our Church wee haue no Bishop that assumes a supremacie ouer Kings and Princes Wee haue no Massacres of Saints faithfull Christians in our Kingdome no we haue no Citie built on seuen hills which is called the seuen hill'd Citie 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 we account not vniuersalitie of nations and people a marke of our Church but we say it is a little flocke and the number of Gods Elect are but few I will descend to the particular Tenets of both Churches and in this I shall appeale to any moderate Romanist whether they or we for the faith professed in their Church or ours stand guilty of damnation Are we accursed because we disclaime all merits in our best workes and relie wholy vpon the merits of Christ Blessed are all they that put their trust in him not in their owne righteousnesse saith the Prophet Dauid Psal 2.12 Are we accursed because according to Christs institution wee receiue the Sacrament in both kinds He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my bloud Ioh. 6. hath life eternall saith our Sauiour Are we accursed because we search the Scriptures we reade them to our Family wee meditate on them day and night Psal 1.2 Blessed are they whose delight is in the Law of the Lord and in his Law will exercise himselfe day night saith the Psalmist Againe looke vpon the Tenets of the Romane Church and let the Word of God bee Iudge betweene them and vs whether they or wee are in the more safe and blessed way Are they blessed that make distinction of meates forbid marriage to Priests Be not high minded but feare Forbidding of marriage and meates is the doctrine of Diuels 1 Tim. 4. Are they blessed that administer the Sacrament and Seruice in an vnknowne tongue 1 Cor. 14. It was a curse at the building of Babel for them that vnderstood not what was spoken In the Law it is written with men of other tongues and other lips will I speake vnto this people and so they shall not heare mee saith the Apostle Are they blessed that contrarie to the Law of God giue adoration to Images Confounded bee all they that worship carued Images saith the Prophet Dauid Psal 97.7 Are they blessed that giue adoration to Saints to the creatures of bread and wine Rom. 1.28 They that worship the creature instead of the Creator God giues them ouer to a reprobate mind and they are accursed Are they blessed that adde new Traditions to the Scriptures and detract from Gods commandements Christs Institution in the Sacrament Reuel 22. Cursed be hee that addeth or detracteth from the least of these sayings saith the Euangelist Are they blessed that create new Articles of faith praeterquam or contra quā besides or contrary to the doctrine of the Scriptures Gal. 1.8 If an Angel from heauen preach any other Gospell then that you haue receiued let him bee accursed From these sew instances it may easilie appeare whether they are damned which beleeue and receiue that faith which was taught by Christ and his Apostles or they blessed which obey the Trent-Fathers and their doctrine which is condemned by the Apostles and Fathers of the Primitiue Church But obserue the wisedome and pollicie of these men they know the ignorant people of their Church their speciall care is to keepe all in ignorance would be easily led by an implicit faith to beleeue the Church in all if they were once possessed with some generall Rule that they were in the safe and certine way of Saluatiō in their owne Church and thereupon from the charitable opinion of well disposed Protestants they haue drawne this generall Conclusion Wee see the Protestants at least many of them confesse there may be saluatiō in our Church wee absolutely deny there may be saluation in theirs therefore it is safer to come to ours then to stay in theirs to bee where almost all grant saluation then where the greatest part of the world denie it Surely it were great pittie that a charitable opinion on our part should giue any Romanist occasion the rather to liue and die in the bosome of the Romane Church whereas wee should rather giue them a warning in the name of the Apostle Reuel 18.4 Come out of her my people that you bee not partaker of her plagues but it were more then shame for them to adiudge our religion therefore the worse because wee are more charitable when wee say a Papist may be saued it is meant onely as I conceiue of those who by an inuincible and compelled ignorance resigne vp their owne eye-sight to looke through such spectacles as their Priests and Pastors haue tempered for them these men so long as they hold fast the true faith of Christ according to the Articles of the Apostolique and Christian beleefe without oppositiō to any ground of Religion and haue furthermore a minde and purpose to obey God
Via tuta THE SAFE WAY Leading all Christians by the testimonies and confessions of our best learned Aduersaries to the true ancient and Catholique faith now professed in the Church of England By HVMFREY LYNDE Knight IEREMIAH 6.16 Stand ye in the wayes and see and aske for the old pathes where is the good way and walke therein and you shall find rest for your soules but they said we will not walke therein LONDON Printed by G. M. for Robert Milbourne and are to be sold at his shop in Pauls Churchyard at the signe of the Gray-hound 1628. To the Religious and well affected Gentrie of this Kingdome IF for no other cause yet for this alone that the world may know it is no difficult matter for a meane Lay-man to prooue the ancient visibilitie of the Protestant profession I haue attempted to send foorth this Essay of my poore endeuours in this cause being thereunto prouoked by a challenge heretofore sent vnto me by a Iesuite in these words viz. That Sir Humfrey or his friends should prooue out of some good Authors that the Protestant Church was in all ages visible especially in the ages before Luther It is not my profession I must confesse to returne challenges or publish works of this nature yet knowing that Truth is iustified of her children I haue presumed as a child of that Mother to vindicat her cause and maintaine my owne reputation and in answer hereunto I shall present such proofes as are warranted by Certificat and confession not onely of the most orthodox Fathers but of the Romish Bishops and Cardinals and other moderne Writers in the Romane Church It is an vndoubted truth subscribed by both parties that the faith which Christ and his Apostles taught in the first age had visible professors in al ages It were therefore sufficient without any further recital of succeeding witnesses to proue that the now Faith of the Church of England is that Faith which was once deliuered to the Saints by Christ and his Apostles but I rather condescend to meete the Aduersarie vpon his owne ground and to deale with him at the same weapon which himselfe hath chosen wherein on our part the Ancient Fathers shall be my Champions and his owne Romish Bishops and Cardinals and Schoolemen shall be my Seconds as being Testes veritatis witnesses of Gods truth professed in our Church Of what strength and force is Truth shal appeare 〈◊〉 his that shee extorts a full and ample testimonie from her sworne enemies to make good the visibility of our Church nor that only but she denyes antiquity and vniuersalitie to the principall Articles of the new Romane Creed wherin she points forth that old and true way and this is acknowledged on both sides to be Via tuta The safe Way vpon which ground it is likewise lawfull for me to frame a counterchallenge by demanding By what authoritie of Scriptures ancient Fathers they haue imposed new Articles of Christian beliefe vpon Priests people sure I am those twelue new coined Articles declared by their grād Councel of Trent and published by Pope Pius the fourth are so far short from the knowledge of antiquitie that as yet they are scarce vnderstood amongst their own Disciples for Articles of Faith And their best learned Romanists professe openly that most of them were vnknowne to former ages It is no wonder that a blind obedience and an implicit faith is so much obtruded to the ignorant of the Romane Church when their best learned Doctors are forced to confesse touching the chiefe Articles wherein they differ from vs that they can neither subsist by Antiquitie nor stand with the safety of the beleeuer Neither may it seeme strange that these mē should create new Articles of faith when as they dare alter and detract from the Commandements of God witnesse their Decalogue so often published by the Church of Rome here now prefixed wherein not only the second Commandement is left out as it is vsually in all their Psalters but the fourth Cōmandement touching the Sabbath day is changed into these words Remember thou sanctifie Holy-dayes But as for these peccadillos the recitall of them I account a sufficient refutation In the meane time those men who call for a Catalogue of names of such Protestants as taught and professed the 39. Articles of Religion of our Church in all ages let them in euery age produce one Ancient and orthodox Father who did teach and maintaine their twelue new Articles de Fide which they command vnder a curse to be beleeued of all men I say let them produce but one in euery age or but anyone in all the ages for 1500. yeares after Christ till the dayes of Luther that taught and beleeued all their twelue new Articles de Fide as points of faith and for that one good Authors sake I will be so liberal as to acknowledge their professors visible in al ages I will say their Bishops and Cardinals and Schoolemen which haue witnessed the Antiquitie of our doctrine were mistaken and ought to bee reformed by an Index Expurgatorius I will testifie the Reformed Churches are guiltie of Noueltie and submit my obedience with an implicit faith to the Romane Church And as touching my owne particular I professe through the prouocation of a Iesuite I haue vnwillingly thrust my sickle into other mens haruest yet I witnesse a true confession before God and man that I haue neither willingly nor wilfully falsified any one Author either in citation or translation in this Treatise If any slips haue hapned which I doe confesse for want of helpe and opportunitie may befall me let it be shewed mee by answer moderately plainely and faithfully and I will ingeniously confesse the weaknesse not of our doctrine but of my own handling So for this time vntill it please God to giue opportunitie to publish some further fruits of my labours in this kind I heartily desire good interpretation and fauourable acceptance of the beginnings and endeuours of him who is At your seruice in Christ and for his Truth H.L. THE NEW Creed of the Church of Rome Bulla Pij Quarti pro forma Iuramenti professionis fidei Datum Romae Anno 1564. 1. This new Creed is added to the Nicene Creed and prescribed by Pope Pius the fourth to be receiued with an oath as the true Catholique faith and that it might resemble the Apostles Creed they haue set it in an Apostolique forme in twelue Articles I Admit and embrace the Apostolicall Ecclesiasticall Traditions and the other obseruations and constitutions of the Church 2. I admit the holy Scriptures according to that sence which the holy Mother Church hath and doth hold whose right is to iudge of the true sence and interpretation of holy Scriptures neither will I euer receiue and expound it but according to the Vniforme Consent of the Fathers 3. I professe that there are truly and properly seuen Sacramēts of the new Law instituted by
obscure assemblies but in open Churches and generall Congregations of our owne Countrie in the darkest ages long before Luthers daies But obserue the comming of our aduersarie That book which was published in Anselmes daies for instruction and visitation of the sicke the same booke I say both for matter and substance hath of late yeares beene printed at Paris at Collen Ordo Baptizandi cum modo visitandi infirmos Paris anno 1575. Colon. anno 1556. Ven. anno 1575. at Venice whereby not onely the doctrine of merits is ecclipsed but the now Romane faith is discouered to differ from the ancient what therefore can bee expected how these men should iustifie their owne printed Authors Behold the Romane Inquisitors haue carefully prouided by two Expurgatory Indices Quiroga p. 149. Sandoual Roxas anno 1612. that the words of comfort which the Priest was enioyned to pronounce to the sicke person should be all blotted out and although the Inquisitors haue not as yet passed their sentence vpon Aelfricks Homilie Aelfricks Sermon on Easter day printed at London 1623. pag. 7. yet in that Homilie they haue suggested Transubstantiation by two feined miracles contrary to the doctrine of the Eucharist then publiquely taught and farre different from the whole Scope of the Author and the Latine Epistle written by Aelfricke to the Arch-bishop of Yorke is to be seene mangled and razed in a Manuscript in Bennets Colledge in Cambridge as is well obserued by a learned Diuine D. Iames in his corruption of Fathers pag. 55 and I cannot conceiue but it was done by some Romanist because it doth plainely confute the doctrine of Transubstantiation Thus wee see what time and errors hath brought to passe That Protestant faith which in Aelfricks daies was generally receiued in England for Catholique doctrine is now condemned as hereticall by a preuailing faction in the Romane Church and that word of truth which was published in Anselmes daies for the saluation of Priests and people in the English Church is now condemned by an Index Expurgatorius with a Deleatur vpon those sauing words but I say of them as Saint Ambrose sometimes pronounced of the Arrians Ambros orat 1. contr Arrian Transubstātiation They may well blot out our letters but our faith they shall neuer abolish Againe looke vpon their doctrine of Transubstantiation and you shall see how miserably their Church is deuided touching the antiquity and vniuersality of that point of faith some deriue it from the words of Christ others from Christs Benediction before the words were vttered some from the exposition of the Fathers others from the councel of Lateran some from the authoritie of the Scriptures others from the determination of the Church and whereas many other points of the Romish doctrine are pretended to be Apostolicall Traditions as hauing no foundation in the written word it is obserued by learned Du Plessis that the Papists generally maintaine that their Masse is prooued from the Scripture insomuch as in the 28. of Matthew and other places where there is mention made of the Sacrament the ordinarie Glosse doth note with capital letters in the Margent Moru de Miss lib. 1. c. 1. in initio Here is the Institution of the Masse It was the great vaunt of Campian the Iesuite Camp Rat. If the Protestants name the Gospell we ioyne with them the verie words are for vs This is my body this is my bloud and Bellarmine his fellow Iesuite professeth confidently that the words Bellar. de Euch. l. 1. c. 11. This is my bodie are of the essence of the Sacrament and they are operatiue If wee shall further question at what time whether before or after the wordes spoken there is a conuersion of the elements into the bodie and bloud of Christ Aquinas tels vs Vltimum instans prolationis verborum est primum instant in quo est in Sà cramento corpus Christi in toto autemtempore praecedenti est item substantia panis Aqu. par 3. q. 75. art 7. ad 1. that the verie last instance of the deliuerie of those words is the first instance of Christs bodie in the Sacrament but in all the time before there is the substance of bread remaining If these men therfore haue spoken the truth let them beare witnesse of the truth onely let mee tell you they want that vnitie in this point of faith which they appropriate as a speciall marke to their Church and for proofe of this I will proceed to publication of witnesses wherein I will produce no other testimonies but their owne learned Authors and I presume a better proofe then their owne confessions none of them can expect whereby it shall appeare that their grand point of Transubstantiation hath neither foundation in our Scriptures nor certaintie in the Fathers nor vnitie among themselues to conclude it for an Article of beleefe Touching the words of Consecration Salmeron the Iesuite speaking in the person of the Grecians deliuers their opinion in this manner Cham. lib. 6. de Euch. c. 7. When the Benediction of the Lord is not superfluous or vaine neither gaue hee simply bread it followeth when he gaue it the transmutation was made and those wordes This is my body did demonstrate what was contained in the bread Ex Catholicis solus Caietanus in Commentario huius Articuli qui iussu Pij Quinti in Romanâ editione expunctus est docuit seclusa Ecclesiae authoritate verba illa Hoc est corpus meum ad veritatem hanc confirmandā non sufficere Suar. Tom. 3. disp 46. not what was made by them And Swarez the Iesuite ingeniously professeth that Cardinall Caietan in his Commentarie vpon this Article did affirme that those words of Christ This is my body do not of themselues sufficiently prooue Transubstantiation without the supposed authoritie of the Church and therefore by the commandement of Pius Quintus that part of his Commentarie is left out of the Romish Edition Habemus confitentem wee haue a faire confession for a Cardinall and a friendly caueat touching the spunging of his authoritie And that the world may know these men are better friends to our cause then many yet conceiue them I will produce both Cardinals and Bishops and Schoolemen who will testifie with vs that there are no words in Scripture to proue Transubstantiation that those words This is my body are not of the essence of the Sacrament that the ancient Fathers did not beleeue the substance of the Sacramentall bread to be conuerted into Christs reall flesh and lastly that Transubstantiation was not beleeued de Fide as a matter of faith aboue 1000 yeares after Christ And first I will giue you their owne confessions touching the place and proofe of Transubstantiation deriued from the Scriptures Quomodò fit corpus Christi vtrum per cōuersionem alicuius c. Biel in Con. Missae Lect. 40. Gabriel Biel How the body of Christ is in the Sacrament Non
Thou art Christ the Sonne of the liuing God will I build my Church what saith the Romanists to this doctrine Stapl. princip doctr lib. 6. c. 3. Bell. lib. 1. de Pontif. c. 10. Stapleton answers It was lapsus humanus a humane error caused by the diuersity of the Greeke and Latine tongue which either he was ignorant of or marked not Touching the Communion in both kinds 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. In latinis codicibus non habetur vnus calix omnibus distributus de Euch. lib. 4. cap. 26. Ignatius saith One cup is distributed to all what saith Bellarmine to this doctrine In the Latine bookes it is not found that one cup is giuen to all but for all Ego vt libere pronunciem sententiam meam suspicor hunc locum fuisse ab haereticis deprauatam Senens in Biblio Sancta lib. 6. annot 66. Touching the Sacrament of Christs body Origen saith The body of Christ is typicall and Symbolicall what saith Senensis to this doctrine To speake my minde freely I suspect this place to bee corrupted Touching Transubstantiation Theodoretus de alijs quibusdam erroribus in Concilio Ephesino notatus fuit etiamsi posteà resipuit Gregor de Valentià in lib. de Transub c. 7. Sect. 11. Theodoret saith the substance of bread and wine ceaseth not in the Sacrament what answer the Romanists to this doctrine Gregorie de Valentia saith Theodoret did erre in the Councell of Ephesus although he afterwards repented it Touching our Iustification by faith onely Vna sola virtus iustificat Fides quae est virtutum fastidium Chrys serm in Psal 14. Tom. 1. Hanc Homiliam neque apud Graecos puto haeberi neque in eá ChrysostomuÌ„ agnosco Notatio in B. Chrys ad fineÌ„ Tom. 5. Chrysostome saith Faith alone doth iustifie c. what saith Nobilius Flaminius to this doctrine I doe not thinke this Homilie is receiued in Greeke neither doe I acknowledge it to be Chrysostomes Touching Images in Churches Epiphanius saith hee found a vaile at the entrance of the Church representing the Image of Christ or some Saint Verba illa non sunt Epiphanij sed supposititià SaÌ„der de Imag. lib. 2. Sunt potius alicuius Iconoclastarum figmentum quam epiphanij germanuÌ„ scriptum Baron annal ad anno 392. num 59. and commanded it to be taken downe and buried what saith Sanders to this doctrine they are not the words of Epiphanius but some counterfeit they are the words saith Baronius of some Image breaker Touching Traditions and vnwritten verities Saint Cyprian saith From whence is this tradition for the Lord commanded vs to doe those things which are written what saith Bellarmine to this doctrine Respondeo Cyprianam haec scripsisse cum errorem suam tueri vellet Bell. de verbo Dei lib. 4. c. 11. Saint Cyprian thought to defend his owne error and therefore it is no maruaile if hee erred in so reasoning Chry. Homil. 3. in Epist ad Ephes Dico ChrysostomuÌ„ vt quaedam alia per excessuÌ„ ita esse locutum cum solum hortari cuperet homines ad frequenter dignè communicandum Bellar. lib. 2. de Missa c. 10. Touching Priuate Masse Chrysostome saith It is better not to bee present at the Sacrifice then to be present and not communicate with the priest what saith Bellarmine to this doctrine Chrysostome spake this as at other times by exceeding the truth when he would incite men frequently and worthily to communicate Nihil aliud diconisimore Poetico lusisse Prudentium Bellar. lib. 2. de Purgat c. 16. Againe if we cite Prudentius Bellarmine answers I say no more of him but that hee played the Poet. If we obiect Tertullian Non magni facienda est eius authoritas cum contradicit alijs Patribus cum constat eum hominem Ecclesiae non fuisse Bellar. lib. 3. de Euchar c. 6. OrigineÌ„ plenum fuisse erroribus quos ecclesia semper detestata est Ribera in Malach. in procâ—m Hieronymus no est Regula Fidei Canus in Theolog. locis lib. 2. 11. Iustini Irenai Epiphanij atque Oecumenij sententiam non vidâ—o quo pacto ab errore possimus defendere Bellar. lib. 1. de sanct cap. 6. Locum ab authoritate esse infirmum vt prudens quidem pastor dixit Pauperis est c. in iudicio plurimorum non acquiesces Salmer Rom. 5. disput 51. Bellarmine answers His authority is of no great account when he contradicts other Fathers and when it appeares he was no man of the Church If we produce Origen Ribera the Iesuite saith He was full of errors which the Church alwaies detested If we cite Hierome Canus makes answer Hierom is no rule of faith If we cite Iustin Irenaeus Epiphanius and Oecumenius Bellarmine answers I see not how we can defend these men from error Lastly if wee produce the vniforme consent of Fathers against the immaculate conception of the blessed Virgin Salmeron the Iesuite makes answer weake is the place which is drawne from authority for Pauperis est numerare pecus It is the signe of a poore man to number his cattell Thus in behalfe of the Protestant doctrine you haue heard the proofe of the Romish witnesses in the chife points made good by the testimoÌ„ies of the Fathers themselues you haue heard likewise notwithstanding their great vaunt of the Fathers how lightly they regard them or reiect them when they speake not Placentia agreeable to their Church and doctrine and that no man may doubt many in the bosomes of their owne Church haue spoken freely and truely in many particular points of doctrine both with vs and against their owne Tenets behold it is so truely felt and commonly vnderstood that the Church hath complained to the Inquisitors and the Inquisitors haue sent out Melius Inquirendum a new writ of enquirie after such delinquents and haue censured them with a Deleatur in those passages that make either for our doctrine or against their owne Sect. 13. Our aduersaries conuinced of a bad cause and an euill conscience by razing of our Records and clipping their owne Authors tongues In Bibli Roberti Stephani c. 7. Deuteron IN the Margent of the Bible it is declared God forbids grauen Images to bee made what say the Inquisitors to this Ind. Exp. Quiroga fol. 8. Delcatur let that passage bee strucken out The Glosse vpon Gratian saith Teste Ioh. Pappo in Jndic Belgic p. 333. The Priest cannot say significatiuely of the bread This is my body without telling of a lie what say the Inquisitors to this doctrine Deleatur let that old leauen be cast out Cassander wrote a whole tract for the Communion in both kindes Jnd. Exp. Belgic pag. 38. what say the Inquisitors to this Deleatur let the whole Tract be blotted out C. Caietan saith Ex Catholicis solus Caietanus in Commentario huius Articuli qui iussu Pij Quinti in Romana