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A85414 A short ansvver to A. S. alias Adam Stewart's second part of his overgrown duply to the two brethren. Together with certaine difficult questions easily answered; all which A. Stewart is desired to consider of, without replying, unlesse it be to purpose. A. Steuart [sic] in his second part of his duply to the two brethren. page 166. The civill magistrate cannot bee orthodox, and tollerate a new sect, (hee meanes independencie, and may as well say Presbytery) unles hee tollerate us to beleeve that hee is either corrupted by moneys, or some other waye, so to doe. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665. 1644 (1644) Wing G1201; Thomason E27_6; ESTC R8324 30,557 41

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power_n have_v the_o king_n or_o parliament_n to_o intrude_v and_o force_v upon_o the_o kingdom_n new_a religion_n or_o a_o toleration_n of_o all_o sect_n the_o parliament_n assume_v no_o such_o power_n unto_o itself_o a_o short_a answer_n to_o a._n s._n alius_fw-la adam_n stewart_n second_o part_n of_o his_o overgrow_a dup_o to_o the_o two_o brethren_n sir_n have_v you_o conceal_v yourself_o under_o the_o two_o first_o letter_n of_o your_o name_n all_o the_o a._n s'es_n in_o town_n and_o country_n will_v never_o have_v be_v able_a to_o clear_v themselves_o for_o what_o you_o make_v but_o word_n of_o however_o i_o may_v not_o add_v a_o tittle_n in_o commendation_n of_o you_o for_o preamble_n to_o this_o pamphlet_n as_o you_o tell_v we_o and_o be_v no_o more_o than_o requisite_a to_o justify_v your_o own_o epistle_n be_v ordinary_a with_o writer_n in_o dedication_n of_o their_o book_n lest_o i_o be_v put_v to_o a_o more_o shameful_a recantation_n than_o a._n s._n be_v and_o that_o for_o 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