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A34534 Dolus an virtus?, or, An answer to a seditious discourse concerning the religion of England and the settlement of reformed Christianity in its due latitude to which are added, the votes of Parliament. Corbet, John, 1620-1680.; England and Wales. Parliament. House of Commons. 1668 (1668) Wing C6252A; ESTC R19442 23,495 41

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to act all this without regret as things of no moment amongst their momentous progeny Surely had you not already moulded every thing amongst your selves unto your own satisfaction so that you are now ready as you phrase it your self to stand in your stations you would not yet have dropt from your Pen these your most villanous and impious derisions let me prophesie for once however plausible and facile the means you have projected may appear now unto you you will miss of your end as you have once already through the infinite mercie of Almightie God to this poor Nation and fall your selves into these heavie miseries which you mention as slight things by way of derision to the State and Kingdom § 14 To prevent all these inconveniencies and miseries your Legislative prudence tells us That all that are thought fit to abide with security so that it seems there are some you think fit to force again into Exile though you will not now name them may be reduced to three sorts you would first have an established order made up of such as are proportionable to the ends of Church and State secondly a limited Tolleration of some others and thirdly a discreet Connivance to the rest according to charity and safety But who shall be placed in the first and who in the other ranks must be concealed till the time of acting in particular what here you word in general be in season And although a vulgar man can hardly distinguish betwixt Tolleration and Connivance yet distinguished they must be for you will have three sorts I suppose although you never speak it your self in respect to three states of Dissenters Presbiterians Independents and Quakers c. Presbiterians you would have put into the comprehensive state with Episcopal Protestants settled and established and cherished by Law The Independents are only to be tollerated but with careful restrictions that they come not too near the Line The Quakers to be wisely and charitably connived at as rules of safety may suggest And you take this your rule it may be from the consideration of the Rainbow which hath three chief colours in it the Pumicious or Yellow-colour gilds the outward and greater semicircle refracted from the least Opacitie the Green tincture is in the middle refracted from a meaner thickness of matter the Purple is the interior of the least semicircle and therefore so much the darker for stronger is the action of the Luminous bodie in the outward Periphere and greater the Opacitie in the inward and a mean of both in the middle The Presbiterian must be put in the outward and greater Circle with the Episcopal Protestants here called the comprehensive state or established and cherished order as next to the firmament The less lightsom and greenish Independent must be in the middle state of Tolleration as further from God And the Quaker who professeth himself to be the only pure light must be content with the lower Rim of discreet connivance which being nearest the earth hath more of Opacitie in it and less of light If you do not mean this pray tell us what you mean I am sure you would have the fine Yellow Presbiterian to be in the Circle of comprehensive approbation or else your whole Book signifies just nothing § 15 Now to let us know something more of your mind as far as generalities will go concerning this Established Order stated in its due Latitude you tell us here and in your Sixteen and Seventeen Sections three words more The first is That this established Order must be sure to be made wide enough that it may take in so many as may be able to controul all the rest those forms of men which use to be imposed on the Consciences of those who enter in being so far made void that they may neglect them without offence and hold only to indisputable Truths and indispenceable Duties This is in plain English to let the Presbiterians come within the line of Communication and favour with the Episcopal Divines now cherished and all the rest kept out that they may have some bodie under them to controul But why should any be kept out that use the very same Plea for themselves which you now do and if you once proceed so far as to give any reason for their Exclusion you shall find that they have already used the same for yours But you will not be in Heaven except you may have some bodie there to controul and trample on You first were begotten and born with this controuling spirit and if it should once fail you would be no more your selves let me tell you a secret To controul and trample upon Inferiours is but a Presbiterians Propertie but to controul Superiours is his very Essence and Nature § 16 Your second word is That the Dissenters who desire to be included in this Comprehensive state under the paternal favour and care of Magistrates Presbiterians you mean are very capable of such an inclusion as being those whose Principles are fitted for Government and Doctrine according to Godliness and so ready to cement with the Church of England which is true in substance though defective in Discipline and Rules compiled by men which the true Sons of the Church cannot swallow They allow of true Episcopacy as ballanced with Presbiters They admit of a Liturgy and are satisfied in their Judgments concerning the lawfulness of it and Ceremonies too if consonant to the Word and Rules of Scripture the time was when you threw us into blood about it but it is well if the miraculous hand of God in restoring the Church hath convinced your judgments but I doubt 't is but conditionally if you may be admitted And you say It is our misery that the favoured Party will never condescend but still trample upon the rest But Sir we perceived but lately that you would not your selves be otherwise favoured than that you might have some left out to trample on But as to that favoured part unto whose Societie you would be taken you let them know in this word of yours That you mean still to think as you have thought and speak and act as you have done hitherto but yet notwithstanding you are very capable of that their Association because they giving an example of Moderation must condescend to let you the wisest of Dissenters sit upon their Benches whilst you are wilfully resolved to condescend and complie with them in nothing The Church of England never excepted against your Principles and Doctrines which be conform to Government and Godliness What you disavow what you have railed at so unjustly and your implacableness in your own wayes which it is unknown to this day whither they will tend or in what they can rest This is the only impediment of your favour and your general cautation of your own holiness sobriety justice and industry all which we have fully experimented is no recantation of this nor any real way of Sociation § 17 Your