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before_o the_o secret_a adultery_n of_o the_o heart_n be_v commit_v it_o can_v be_v of_o faith_n and_o therefore_o the_o apostle_n give_v sentence_n that_o it_o be_v sin_n for_o whatsoever_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n be_v sin_n be_v it_o before_o or_o after_o the_o consent_n of_o 23._o heart_n therefore_o out_o of_o these_o word_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v true_o prove_v by_o the_o nature_n and_o effect_n of_o concupiscence_n that_o it_o be_v sin_n of_o itself_o see_v present_o with_o consent_n it_o be_v make_v a_o sin_n in_o so_o high_a a_o degree_n as_o be_v adultery_n also_o herein_o my_o allege_v of_o scripture_n be_v find_v to_o be_v according_a to_o the_o matter_n and_o argument_n without_o any_o error_n of_o doctrine_n alteration_n of_o sense_n or_o appiy_v it_o otherwise_o than_o it_o may_v be_v true_o and_o profitable_o apply_v wherefore_o you_o give_v to_o much_o