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A05534 A treatise of the ceremonies of the church vvherein the points in question concerning baptisme, kneeling, at the sacrament, confirmation, festiuities, &c. are plainly handled and manifested to be lawfull, as they are now vsed in the Church of England : whereunto is added a sermon preached by a reuerend bishop. Lindsay, David, d. 1641? 1625 (1625) STC 15657.5; ESTC S2190 273,006 442

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