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A90932 The preacher sent: or, A vindication of the liberty of publick preaching, by some men not ordained. In answer to two books: 1. Jus divinum ministerii euengelici. By the Provincial Assembly of London. 2. VindiciƦ ministerii euangelici. By Mr. John Collings of Norwich. / Published by Iohn Martin, minister of the Gospel at Edgfield in Norfolk. Sam. Petto, minister of the Gospel at Sand-croft in Suffolk. Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Martin, John, 1595 or 6-1659.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1658 (1658) Wing P3197; Thomason E1592_2; ESTC R208851 240,824 381

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147. they say Sometimes the Pastor is put before the Teacher as Eph. 4. 11. sometimes the Teacher before the Pastor as Rom. 12. 7 8. We may adde further that according to their own interpretation of 1 Cor. 12. 8. the Jus Divinum Min. page 97. word of wisdome denotes the Pastors work the word of knowledge the Teachers work and yet prophesie is put after these v. 10. To another prophesie And if any will build a conclusion upon the order of words which order will they stick to v. 8 10. Prophets are put after Pastors and Teachers v. 28 29. Prophets are set before Teachers 2. The enumerating of Prophets amongst Officers of the Church is not sufficient to evidence that Prophets were Officers for though some Officers be named yet we conceive that all which are named are not Officers for here are eight enumerated 1 Cor. 12. 28. first Apostles second Prophets third Teachers fourth Miracles fifth Gifts of healing sixth Helps seventh Governments eighth Diversities of tongues and elsewhere there are others to be added v. 10. Ephes 4. v. 11 12. ninth discerning of Spirits tenth the interpretation of tongues eleventh Evangelists Can any conclude that there were eight or eleven Officers in the Church in those days You may say that there were so many distinct Officers because so many are enumerated amongst Officers as well as that Prophets are Officers because reckoned up together with Officers Whereas some of those enumerated are gifts v. 4 30 31. and particularly prophesie is called a gift 1 Cor. 13. 2. Though I have the gift of prophesie Rom. 12. 6. Yea diverse of those gifts mentioned 1 Cor. 12. 28. did meet in one Officer the Apostles were Officers yet they wrought Miracles had the gift of tongues Act. 2. v. 3 4. Nay the gift of tongues is one Office if they be all Officers that be enumerated 1 Cor. 12. 28. Diversities of tongues and this gift was granted unto some before they were baptised Act. 10. v. 46 47 48. On the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost for they heard them speak with tongues and magnifie God Then answered Peter Can any man forbid water that these should not be baptized which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we And he commanded them to be baptized Here was the gift of tongues before baptisme and therefore according to our Brethrens principles before Church-Membership and if they were not yet Church-Members how could they be Church-Officers if they were not set in the Church how could they be set as Officers in it Yet if the enumerating of Prophets amongst Officers would prove them to be Church-Officers then the enumerating of the gifts of tongues amongst Officers in the very same verse 1 Cor. 12. 28. would prove those that had such gifts to be Officers also 3. If Prophets must be Officers 1 Cor. 12. 28. Eph. 4. 11 12. those places may be intended of the extraordinary Prophets who did foretel of future events as Act. 11. 27 28. In those days came Prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch and there stood up one of them named Agabus and signified by the Spirit that there should be a great dearth thorowout the world If such Prophets be intended in those forecited places and be extraordinary Officers yet this hinders not but that the Prophets mentioned 1 Cor. 14. may be onely by gift especially seeing the fourteenth Chapter is an entire Exhortation of it self and chiefly spent in holding forth Directions about prophesying and that to the whole Church without hinting any thing about foretelling things to come which must be their main work as Prophets if such a sort of Prophets were intended And this leads us to the second Position Propos 2. That some men have the gift of prophesie or that prophesying is a gift still continuing Argum. 1. That which was in use by Divine appointment in the primitive times and no Gospel-Rule can be shewn for the repeal or ceasing of it that must needs be still continuing If the Law which established the use of it be still in force or unrepealed surely the use of it ought to be continued for else the Law of Christ is broken and sin attendeth it But prophesying was in use by Divine appointment in primitive times and no Gospel-Rule can be shewn for the repeal or ceasing of it Ergo prophesying must needs be still continuing That prophesying was in use by Divine appointment in primitive times it cannot be denyed this 1 Cor. 14. almost thorowout is purposely to reprove an irregular use of prophesying and to direct in the right use and therefore as Mr. Shephard well observeth the Apostle doth grant and establish an use of it Now let our Brethren shew any Gospel-Rule to evidence that prophesying is now ceased which we have proved was once in use by Divine appointment We should not need produce a Rule to prove it is not ceased it is their work to prove that it is ceased Yet we shall add a few things which will conduce to the proving that it is not ceased Argum. 2. That which was practised in primitive times which was ordinary is still continuing But the prophesying mentioned 1 Cor. 14. was ordinary Ergo That prophesying mentioned 1 Cor. 14. is still continuing The Major will not be denyed if that which was practised then which was ordinary be not obligatory and binding to us we are to seek for a Rule for our duty The Minor is That the prophesying mentioned 1 Cor. 14. was ordinary for this we may refer the Reader to Mr. Rutherford's Due right of Presbyteries p. 466 467. where he proves by eight Arguments That these very Prophets mentioned 1 Cor. 14. were ordinary Prophets Indeed he asserteth that they were Officers in which he is against us but if his Arguments will hold to prove that they are ordinary Prophets then our Brethren must say either that they are Prophets by gift onely or else assert another sort of ordinary Officers for prophesying distinct from Pastors and Teachers or else retract and unsay what they have said For in their Jus Divin Minist p. 97. they speak thus The gift of prophecie is reckoned amongst the extraordinary gifts of the Spirit and put in the midst of them 1 Cor. 12. 9 10 11. and contradistinguished from ordinary gifts vers 7 8. The word of wisdom the word of knowledge the word of wisdom denotes the Pastors work the word of knowledge the Teachers work but prophesying is different from both these Here our Brethren do plainly assert that prophesying is different from the work of Pastors and Teachers and therefore if prophesying prove an ordinary Office and continuing it must be a different office from Pastor and Teacher And here we cannot but observe how the Lord hath left them to a self-contradiction if the sundry Ministers of London publishing the first Book be of the province of London which published the second For in this Book called