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A09313 The letters patents of the presbyterie vvith the plea and fruits of the prelacie. Manifested out of the scriptures, fathers, ecclesiasticall histories, Papists, and sundrie other authors. By Iames Peregrin. [Peregin, James].; Partridge, James, attributed name. aut 1632 (1632) STC 19622B.5; ESTC S103890 43,655 62

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litle harme in it yet doubtles the inuention and allovvance gaue occasion of all these euils vvas some breack of the second comandement as vvomen that frisse their hair paint or lay open their naked breasts are occasions of lust breake the commandement such precepts as require modestie though they doe not these things on purpose to make men fornicators but for fashion sake to get husbands or the like reason At this day there is such an Image of the virgin reedified beautified at the crosse in cheape side Besides Engl●sh Papists diuers Spaniards others haue bene obserued to vvorship it and therefore neither the ancient custome of this inuention nor any constitution allowing it nor the little hurt it did at the first or novv doth to many can serue to excuse the Rulers that suffer it For vvee see many kings are blamed for suffering the high places vvhich some time vvere litle frequented or at least not by many Smal faults errours make vvay for greater It may be the inuentors and maintainers of diocessan Bishops som Romish ceremonies meant ●●s litle hurt at the first as any of these yet seeing they haue ●one doe may doe so much hurt it is a great fault to main●aine or suffer them The Iesuits know that the maintenance of them and suppressing of bookes against them are notable ●nductions to nevvtralitie luke vvarmnes ignorance errour ●nd poperie as they finde in many Arminians and pontifici●ns further that no Protestant church in the vvorld hath ●o handsom a cloake for a church Papist Spanish or Romish ●s these serue for And yet these as all the errours of the Romish church being once receiued haue bene maintained by men of great pretie knovvledge in other things VVho are thought to haue more knovvledge holines deuotion then some franciscans that maintaine these errours about the bles●ed virgin others of poperie The deuil all corrupt men hauing once broached any errour euer get some of the most religious and learned to defend it or at least that it is a thing indifferent or tollerable thus the beginnings of Diocessan Bishops and Romish ceremonies some primacie in the Pope Images in the churches to a religious vse and the like being begun vvith smaller digressions from the truth haue gained some to defend them as things indifferent and tollerable vvho vvere reckoned oft vvere men of great knovvledge and pierie in other matters and then these errours and abuses being thus defended grevv greater and more intollerable So the Bishops in England hauing gotten some men to subscribe that are verie learned religious they then get them also to defend their Hierarchie traditions and ceremonies vvhich doctrine they knovv vvill be best receiued at such mens hand as vvee haue of late seene in Doctor Burges and others much graced by the Bishops vvho among themselues also haue some that are and others that seeme to be verie religious in many things But vvee should remember that these are but men that engaged a litle in any cause are subiect to fall farther into it that gifts or hopes of preferment blind the eies of the vvise that the church of Rome could neuer haue gained her cause in so many things if she had not had the helpe of men esteemed as religious and learned that she could neuer vvant of this sort vvho had such revvards for her champions such povver to suspend and silence the opposers no more can the Bishops The 34. Art 34. Article saith thus It is not necessary that traditions ceremonies be in all places one or vtterly like for at all times they haue bene diuers and may be changed according to the diuersitie of countries times and mens manners so that nothing be ordained against Gods vvord I ansvvere in some cases this may be admitted For the Apostle vvould not haue a man praying to be couered in the church and in those hot countries if any that might wel endure to be bareheaded in praier 1. Cor. 11.4 c. as the most might should haue vvorne a night cap or the like thing in the church it had bene as greate an euill in him as if he had vvorne a hart yet in ours being a much colder countrie the church vvith good reason allovveth such to vveare night caps in time of praier as can not vvith safety of their health be vncouered so long God requires not the death or danger of his creatures in such cases In Muscouie Svvede and some colder Climates men are so bitten vvith frost that they are constrained to keepe somvvhat on their heads Here necessitie requireth that the ceremonie be not the same nor in some old or sick body that is not able to kneele all the time of praier But vvhat necessitie is there for the crosse in Baptisme the surplesse copes or kneeling at the Sacrament which vvere not vsed in the age of the Apostles are but meere mockeries make the vvord of none effect and haue bene so much abused to idollatrie as the Image of the blessed virgin Because the Apostle saith 1. Cor. 14.40 Let all things be done decently and in order therefore some infer the church or the magistrate may ordaine these and the like A foolish inference that serues as vvell for the Paplsts and their trumperies pretended to belong to decencie order as for them For hovv is there more decencie and order in these things then vvas in the time of the Apostles or is novv in the reformed churches The Apostle speakes of decencie and order vvhereby they should be the better Christians the vvomen being couered the men vncouered in time of praier the men speaking in a knovvne tongue and one after another not confusedly the vvomen keeping silence in the church of these and the like he saith Let all things be done decently and in order But vvhat better Christians are men for the crosse in baptisme for the surplesse and kneeling at the Sacrament vvhat more decencie and order in the surplesse then in a shirt of haire a Iesuits cloake a friers vvhite roabe a Capuchins gray govvne hood or the rope vvherevvith he girds himselfe vvhat more decencie and order in the crosse in baptisme then in the crosse that hangs at the friers girdle in kneeling at the receiuing of the bread then in kneeling at the feete of a Priest in confession before a crosse or Image or at their receiuing of the host vvhat more decencie and order in diocessan prouinciall Bishops Chancellours Deanes and Archdeacons and their courts and proceedings then in those of the church of Rome the Cardinals Generals and Canonists saue in the degrees of superstition and impietie That place indeed giues vvarrant in some cases as touching the time and place of Gods vvorship and needefull ceremonies therein That on the Lords day it should begin about 8. or 9. in the morning and end before noone and begin againe about tvvo because men in many places