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or_o do_v worship_v their_o god_n by_o image_n as_o he_o must_v needs_o have_v do_v if_o they_o have_v image_n then_o that_o he_o reply_v to_o the_o heathen_a that_o say_v we_o worship_v the_o god_n by_o image_n depâ—ecarâ—_n scire_fw-la deum_fw-la &_o rei_fw-la alteri_fw-la supplicare_fw-la opem_fw-la sperare_fw-la à _fw-la numine_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la effigicm_n nullius_fw-la sensus_fw-la depâ—ecarâ—_n what_o say_v he_o can_v be_v more_o injurious_a more_o reproachful_a to_o say_v they_o know_v god_n and_o yet_o worship_v another_o thing_n to_o profess_v they_o hope_v for_o help_v from_o the_o deity_n and_o yet_o turn_v to_o and_o supplicat_fw-la the_o image_n which_o have_v no_o sense_n which_o speak_v reason_n against_o image-worship_n in_o heathen_n or_o christian_n lactantius_n among_o many_o say_n against_o this_o folly_n colatur_fw-la lactan._n l._n 2._o c._n 18._o perversum_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la simulachrum_fw-la homi_fw-la nis_fw-la à _fw-la simulachro_fw-la dei_fw-la 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obitu_fw-la the_o odosii_fw-la regem_fw-la adora_fw-la vit_fw-mi non_fw-la lignum_fw-la utique_fw-la quia_fw-la hic_fw-la gentilis_fw-la est_fw-la error_n &_o vanitas_fw-la impiorum_fw-la have_v this_o passage_n of_o helena_n mother_n of_o constantine_n when_o she_o have_v find_v the_o very_a cross_n of_o christ_n she_o worship_v the_o king_n christ_n not_o the_o wood._n the_o cardinal_n reply_v that_o st._n ambrose_n will_v have_v the_o cross_n not_o adore_v for_o itself_o but_o for_o christ_n sake_n as_o if_o that_o age_n of_o the_o the_o church_n know_v the_o new_a romish_a distinction_n or_o limitation_n of_o give_v worship_n to_o cross_n and_o image_n for_o themselves_o or_o for_o the_o exemplar_n sake_n but_o the_o cardinal_n do_v advise_o in_o cut_v off_o what_o follow_v in_o that_o father_n for_o this_o be_v a_o heathen_a error_n and_o vanity_n of_o the_o wicked_a viz._n to_o worship_v such_o thing_n religious_o yet_o there_o he_o find_v something_o which_o he_o think_v may_v favour_v the_o adoration_n of_o the_o cross_n ibid._n levavit_fw-la crucem_fw-la in_o capite_fw-la regum_fw-la ut_fw-la crux_fw-la domini_fw-la in_o regibus_fw-la adoretur_fw-la ambr._n ibid._n helena_n say_v ambrose_n do_v wise_o in_o set_v the_o cross_n upon_o the_o head_n of_o king_n for_o she_o have_v commend_v it_o to_o constantine_n her_o son_n to_o set_v it_o upon_o his_o crown_n that_o the_o cross_n of_o our_o lord_n may_v be_v adore_v in_o king_n what_o that_o material_a cross_n place_v on_o the_o diadem_n of_o any_o king_n be_v adore_v so_o must_v the_o cardinal_n suppose_v it_o or_o else_o he_o must_v grant_v that_o the_o intent_n of_o helena_n and_o the_o say_n of_o st._n ambrose_n upon_o it_o be_v only_o to_o show_v what_o esteem_v she_o have_v and_o all_o other_o ought_v to_o have_v of_o the_o passion_n of_o christ_n redemptioni_fw-la non_fw-la insolentia_fw-la haec_fw-la sed_fw-la pietas_fw-la cùm_fw-la desertur_fw-la sacrae_fw-la redemptioni_fw-la and_o therefore_o it_o follow_v in_o st._n ambrose_n this_o be_v not_o a_o strange_a or_o unseemly_a thing_n but_o piety_n see_v the_o honour_n be_v give_v to_o the_o sacred_a redemption_n hear_v now_o
place_n they_o either_o restrain_v it_o to_o the_o literal_a as_o it_o enforce_v concord_n and_o agreement_n between_o man_n and_o man_n or_o take_v it_o in_o the_o parabolical_a sense_n as_o appliable_a to_o our_o agreement_n and_o reconciliation_n to_o god_n for_o want_v or_o neglect_v of_o which_o the_o prison_n of_o hell_n and_o eternal_a suffering_n there_o will_v follow_v st._n chrysostom_n and_o some_o other_o be_v content_a with_o the_o first_o way_n elsewhere_o way_n aug._n 1._o qu._n ad_fw-la dulcitium_fw-la and_o elsewhere_o st._n aug._n and_o other_o apply_v it_o in_o the_o parabolical_a sense_n not_o to_o any_o place_n or_o pain_n of_o purgatory_n but_o to_o hell_n and_o the_o pain_n never_o cease_v to_o this_o their_o own_o author_n consent_n maldonat_fw-la on_o the_o place_n expound_v it_o of_o hell_n and_o eternal_a punishment_n so_o jansenius_n and_o other_o 40._o jans_n concord_n c._n 40._o salmeron_n seem_v indifferent_a first_o set_v down_o that_o interpretation_n 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hell_n the_o other_o to_o abraham_n bosom_n i_o need_v not_o cite_v the_o place_n which_o be_v obvious_a to_o every_o one_o that_o look_v into_o their_o write_n ii_o they_o do_v not_o agree_v about_o the_o particular_a place_n of_o the_o soul_n of_o just_a person_n which_o difference_n among_o the_o ancient_n show_v plain_o that_o this_o place_n of_o purgatory_n be_v not_o then_o know_v 31._o iren._n l._n 5._o â—_o 31._o st._n irenaeus_n and_o many_o that_o follow_v he_o hold_v they_o be_v all_o keep_v in_o a_o secret_a receptacle_n below_o or_o out_o of_o heaven_n and_o sight_n of_o god_n till_o the_o resurrection_n which_o place_n be_v also_o call_v by_o they_o hades_n or_o a_o invisible_a place_n and_o sometime_o abraham_n bosom_n this_o condition_n of_o soul_n servavit_fw-la legem_fw-la mortuorum_fw-la servavit_fw-la irenaeus_n call_v legem_fw-la mortuorum_fw-la the_o law_n of_o the_o dead_a and_o say_v as_o our_o saviour_n observe_v it_o not_o ascend_v to_o his_o father_n till_o 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ex_fw-la his_fw-la qui_fw-la rectè_fw-la putantur_fw-la credidisse_fw-la transgrediuntur_fw-la ordinem_fw-la promotionis_fw-la justorum_fw-la some_o say_v he_o of_o those_o that_o be_v think_v to_o believe_v aright_o do_v transgress_v the_o order_n or_o degrâ—â—s_n of_o the_o promotion_n of_o the_o just_a viz._n by_o admit_v they_o as_o he_o conceive_v too_o haâ—â—ily_o into_o heaven_n of_o this_o judgement_n be_v cyprian_n and_o general_o the_o father_n after_o he_o as_o we_o shall_v see_v present_o now_o as_o the_o former_a opinion_n that_o keep_v soul_n out_o of_o heaven_n till_o the_o resurrection_n can_v not_o stand_v with_o the_o doctrine_n of_o invocation_n as_o we_o note_v above_o in_o the_o ii_o sect._n so_o this_o diversity_n of_o judgement_n touch_v the_o place_n of_o soul_n after_o death_n can_v not_o consist_v with_o a_o belief_n of_o purgatory_n iii_o although_o the_o ancient_n be_v not_o agree_v upon_o the_o particular_a place_n or_o degree_n of_o bliss_n yet_o all_o 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extracti_fw-la and_o when_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n be_v draw_v out_o of_o the_o storm_n of_o this_o world_n they_o gain_v the_o haven_n of_o and_o eternal_a mansion_n and_o security_n supplicium_fw-la â—â—tranquillam_fw-la quietem_fw-la justi_n vocantur_fw-la ad_fw-la refrigerium_fw-la iâ—justi_fw-la ad_fw-la supplicium_fw-la and_o have_v a_o undisturbedre_v and_o at_o death_n the_o just_a be_v calleâ—_n to_o a_o refreshment_n the_o unjust_a to_o punishment_n all_o this_o to_o comfort_v christian_n against_o death_n by_o their_o present_a removal_n to_o a_o bless_a condition_n and_o none_o of_o these_o can_v be_v say_v of_o they_o that_o go_v to_o purgatory_n for_o that_o be_v not_o to_o take_v possession_n of_o or_o enter_v into_o paradise_n that_o be_v not_o the_o country_n which_o the_o faithful_a seek_v not_o a_o reign_v with_o christ_n not_o the_o mansion_n of_o rest_n or_o port_n of_o eternal_a security_n and_o undisturbed_a quietness_n and_o these_o several_a expression_n of_o this_o father_n may_v assure_v we_o that_o the_o
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opinion_n and_o misapplication_n of_o that_o practice_n of_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a and_o indeed_o he_o seem_v to_o acknowledge_v so_o much_o himself_o for_o in_o his_o forementioned_a hom._n 61._o in_o jo._n he_o faith_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o relation_n to_o those_o his_o exhortation_n for_o such_o prayer_n and_o offering_n these_o thing_n i_o speak_v not_o as_o one_o give_v precept_n or_o set_v a_o law_n but_o as_o one_o allow_v and_o condescend_v to_o the_o affection_n and_o frailty_n of_o man_n the_o romanist_n here_o reply_v that_o st._n chrysost_o and_o other_o seem_v to_o urge_v prayer_n for_o all_o because_o they_o know_v not_o who_o die_v in_o the_o state_n of_o repentance_n and_o so_o they_o pray_v for_o all_o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n yet_o hold_v those_o prayer_n appliable_a to_o and_o available_a for_o only_o those_o that_o die_v in_o that_o state_n and_o go_v to_o purgatory_n pain_n this_o be_v a_o mere_a shift_n for_o st._n chrysost_o do_v plain_o suppose_v that_o those_o sinner_n he_o speak_v of_o die_v in_o their_o sin_n such_o 〈◊〉_d chrys_n hom_n 61._o in_o lo._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o if_o god_n have_v see_v they_o will_v have_v change_v he_o will_v not_o have_v cut_v they_o off_o before_o their_o repentance_n as_o we_o have_v it_o above_o such_o as_o he_o in_o another_o place_n speak_v thus_o of_o of_o such_o a_o one_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n to_o rejoice_v but_o only_o because_o the_o course_n of_o his_o wicked_a life_n be_v cut_v off_o yet_o for_o such_o he_o exhort_v to_o pray_v and_o offer_v and_o help_v he_o as_o they_o can_v and_o indeed_o the_o reason_n of_o this_o extend_v the_o benefit_n of_o prayer_n to_o such_o sinner_n be_v not_o any_o supposal_n of_o purgatory_n but_o of_o some_o mitigate_a and_o ease_v of_o those_o eternal_a pain_n to_o which_o such_o sinner_n be_v adjudge_v and_o this_o in_o part_n according_a to_o that_o merciful_a opinion_n and_o the_o motion_n of_o humane_a affection_n of_o which_o st._n aug._n speak_v in_o his_o enchiridion_n c._n 111._o as_o we_o note_v above_o and_o to_o which_o affection_n st._n chrysost_o give_v too_o much_o scope_n as_o we_o see_v in_o the_o forementioned_a passage_n of_o prayer_n &_o oblation_n for_o such_o sinner_n but_o as_o for_o purgatory_n pain_n which_o be_v suppose_v to_o begin_v at_o death_n &_o to_o end_v before_o the_o resurrection_n he_o know_v no_o such_o pain_n as_o evident_o appear_v by_o that_o exact_a distribution_n of_o the_o several_a sort_n of_o punishment_n make_v by_o this_o father_n and_o cite_v below_o nu._n 11._o what_o we_o have_v say_v of_o some_o expression_n of_o chrysost_n apply_v prayer_n and_o relief_n to_o such_o sinner_n as_o before_o be_v describe_v may_v be_v say_v of_o that_o place_n which_o the_o romanist_n much_o urge_v out_o of_o st._n 〈◊〉_d cyril_n mist_n â—atech_n 5._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n who_o tell_v we_o they_o pray_v simple_o for_o all_o and_o account_v it_o a_o great_a help_n to_o those_o soul_n for_o which_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o great_a and_o holy_a sacrifice_n be_v offer_v and_o the_o great_a power_n which_o that_o prayer_n have_v to_o help_v he_o set_v out_o by_o the_o similitude_n of_o a_o king_n entreat_v to_o pardon_n and_o call_v back_o one_o that_o be_v banish_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d according_a to_o the_o same_o manner_n say_v he_o we_o pray_v for_o sinner_n render_v god_n propitious_a now_o if_o it_o be_v after_o the_o same_o manner_n then_o by_o the_o force_n of_o this_o similitude_n it_o must_v be_v employ_v that_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n may_v obtain_v pardon_n for_o sinner_n not_o reconcile_v to_o god_n before_o their_o death_n for_o so_o the_o banish_a person_n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v not_o reconcile_v to_o his_o prince_n and_o then_o it_o sound_v to_o like_a purpose_n as_o those_o passage_n in_o chrysostom_n do_v and_o be_v but_o a_o private_a application_n or_o misapplication_n of_o that_o ancient_a practice_n neither_o agreeable_a to_o the_o intent_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n remember_v in_o her_o prayer_n and_o offering_n only_o those_o that_o be_v at_o rest_n in_o christ_n as_o by_o the_o form_n of_o those_o prayer_n may_v appear_v nor_o make_v any_o thing_n for_o purgatory_n which_o suppose_v the_o person_n reconcile_v and_o justify_v before_o he_o come_v there_o but_o if_o the_o sinner_n which_o cyril_n here_o say_v be_v pray_v for_o be_v take_v in_o a_o more_o remiss_a sense_n for_o such_o as_o the_o romish_a church_n send_v to_o purgatory_n then_o the_o pray_v for_o they_o come_v to_o no_o more_o than_o what_o we_o say_v above_o to_o epiphanius_n and_o dionysius_n that_o such_o prayer_n have_v reference_n to_o the_o passage_n of_o such_o soul_n and_o their_o appear_v in_o judgement_n not_o to_o their_o be_v in_o pain_n after_o death_n for_o that_o such_o person_n must_v appear_v in_o judgement_n the_o first_o and_o the_o last_o judgement_n and_o undergo_v a_o scrutiny_n or_o examination_n and_o have_v as_o it_o be_v their_o hay_n and_o stubble_n burn_v up_o be_v a_o catholic_n truth_n but_o that_o person_n reconcile_v to_o god_n die_v and_o rest_v in_o christ_n shall_v present_o go_v to_o pain_n and_o torment_n be_v no_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n can_v not_o refer_v unto_o such_o person_n and_o we_o may_v observe_v that_o the_o undoubted_a cyril_n for_o those_o mystagogical_a catechism_n be_v think_v to_o be_v compose_v by_o john_n b._n 15._o cyril_n catech_n 15._o of_o jerusalem_n tell_v we_o that_o christ_n when_o he_o come_v to_o judgement_n shall_v draw_v after_o he_o a_o 'slud_o of_o try_v fire_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o shall_v burn_v up_o all_o hay_n and_o stubble_n of_o their_o action_n so_o that_o if_o such_o sinner_n be_v pray_v for_o it_o must_v be_v with_o reference_n to_o the_o fire_n of_o trial_n and_o examination_n which_o they_o be_v to_o undergo_v in_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o according_a to_o the_o true_a cyril_n thus_o much_o for_o that_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n pray_v for_o the_o dead_a that_o it_o do_v not_o prove_v a_o belief_n of_o purgatory_n but_o be_v use_v upon_o other_o reason_n the_o three_o general_a head_n be_v forgiveness_n of_o sin_n after_o death_n come_v forgiveness_n of_o sin_n after_o death_n or_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v out_o of_o which_o the_o romanist_n will_v conclude_v a_o purgatory_n the_o text_n of_o scripture_n be_v our_o saviour_n speech_n mat._n 12.32_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v forgive_v he_o neither_o in_o this_o world_n nor_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v here_o they_o be_v bind_v to_o make_v good_a three_o thing_n 1._o that_o the_o world_n to_o come_v signify_v the_o time_n beginning_n at_o every_o man_n death_n 2._o that_o from_o our_o saviour_n negative_a nor_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v this_o affirmative_a follow_v therefore_o there_o be_v some_o sin_n shall_v be_v forgive_v in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v 3._o that_o if_o some_o sin_n shall_v be_v forgive_v then_o to_o they_o to_o who_o they_o shall_v be_v forgive_v there_o remain_v pain_n and_o torment_v to_o be_v suffer_v i._o for_o the_o time_n come_v of_o the_o world_n to_o come_v the_o world_n to_o come_v be_v not_o where_o put_v for_o the_o time_n between_o every_o man_n death_n and_o the_o resurrection_n for_o so_o it_o will_v be_v present_a to_o some_o and_o future_a to_o other_o but_o be_v every_o where_o seculum_fw-la futurum_fw-la which_o be_v so_o to_o every_o one_o whether_o it_o be_v take_v according_a to_o the_o jewish_a acception_n or_o the_o christian_n with_o the_o jew_n the_o world_n to_o come_v do_v sometime_o signify_v the_o time_n of_o their_o expect_a
messiah_n and_o indeed_o that_o place_n of_o isa_n 9.6_o where_o the_o messiah_n be_v call_v pater_fw-la futuri_fw-la seculi_fw-la the_o father_n of_o the_o age_n or_o world_n to_o come_v to_o who_o a_o generation_n shall_v be_v account_v ps_n 22.30_o do_v accord_n thereunto_o now_o it_o be_v a_o opinion_n among_o the_o jew_n as_o they_o that_o be_v acquaint_v with_o their_o rabbin_n do_v tell_v we_o that_o some_o sin_n shall_v then_o be_v forgive_v which_o can_v not_o before_o and_o according_o it_o be_v a_o usual_a expression_n by_o say_v such_o a_o sin_n shall_v not_o be_v forgive_v no_o not_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v to_o show_v the_o atrocity_n and_o flagitiousness_n of_o such_o a_o sin_n which_o the_o grace_n that_o the_o messiah_n shall_v bring_v will_v not_o take_v away_o and_o so_o our_o saviour_n may_v speak_v this_o ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la according_a to_o their_o common_a opinion_n and_o say_n to_o express_v the_o heinousness_n of_o that_o sin_n or_o blasphemy_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n but_o take_v this_o phrase_n according_a to_o the_o tenor_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n which_o suppose_v the_o messiah_n come_v already_o the_o world_n to_o come_v every_z where_o signify_v that_o which_o begin_v at_o the_o resurrection_n or_o last_o day_n of_o this_o world_n then_o be_v fix_v the_o end_n of_o this_o world_n mat._n 13.39.40_o &_o cap._n 28.20_o and_o then_o begin_v the_o world_n to_o come_v marc._n 10.30_o luc._n 18.30_o eph._n 1.21_o and_o so_o it_o must_v be_v take_v by_o st._n aug._n in_o that_o place_n which_o the_o romanist_n cite_v as_o to_o their_o purpose_n for_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n not_o forgive_v before_o remittetur_fw-la aug._n de_fw-fr civit._fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 21._o c._n 24._o neque_fw-la enim_fw-la de_fw-la qui_fw-la busdam_fw-la veraciter_fw-la diceretur_fw-la non_fw-la remittetur_fw-la otherwise_o say_v he_o it_o can_v not_o be_v true_o say_v of_o some_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v forgive_v neither_o in_o this_o world_n nor_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v for_o if_o we_o inquire_v of_o he_o when_o shall_v this_o be_v resurrectione_n factâ_fw-la resurrectione_n he_o tell_v we_o there_o after_o the_o resurrection_n be_v do_v and_o so_o also_o futurum_fw-la seculum_fw-la the_o world_n to_o come_v be_v take_v both_o by_o greek_n and_o latin_n purgatorio_fw-la latin_n council_n flor._n sess_n 1._o de_fw-la purgatorio_fw-la in_o their_o debate_n of_o this_o point_n ii_o forgiveness_n of_o the_o forgiveness_n for_o their_o inference_n from_o our_o saviour_n negative_a not_o forgive_v say_v he_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v therefore_o say_v they_o there_o be_v sin_n to_o be_v forgive_v in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v the_o cardinal_n acknowledge_v it_o do_v not_o follow_v according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o logic_n indeed_o such_o forgiveness_n as_o they_o pretend_v in_o relation_n to_o purgatory_n can_v in_o any_o reason_n follow_v upon_o our_o saviour_n speech_n that_o there_o be_v a_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n after_o death_n can_v be_v deny_v so_o long_o as_o we_o believe_v there_o be_v a_o judgement_n of_o god_n to_o come_v for_o when_o that_o come_v and_o pass_v upon_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n either_o private_o at_o their_o death_n or_o open_o at_o the_o last_o day_n there_o be_v a_o absolution_n of_o some_o and_o a_o condemnation_n of_o other_o a_o forgive_a and_o a_o not_o forgive_n in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v whether_o we_o begin_v that_o time_n at_o the_o day_n of_o death_n or_o of_o resurrection_n but_o this_o forgiveness_n be_v nothing_o to_o purgatory_n again_o this_o forgiveness_n or_o not_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v may_v have_v regard_n to_o the_o forgiveness_n or_o retain_v of_o sin_n by_o man_n in_o the_o ministry_n of_o reconciliation_n in_o this_o life_n so_o there_o be_v a_o lose_n and_o bind_v on_o earth_n and_o a_o lose_n and_o bind_v in_o heaven_n in_o like_a manner_n a_o declaration_n of_o sin_n forgive_v in_o the_o church_n in_o this_o life_n and_o a_o declaration_n of_o sin_n forgive_v or_o not_o forgive_v in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v for_o then_o it_o shall_v appear_v that_o many_o sin_n forgive_v by_o man_n clave_n errante_fw-la through_o misapplication_n of_o the_o key_n be_v not_o forgive_v of_o god_n but_o shall_v receive_v sentence_n of_o condemnation_n and_o many_o that_o have_v be_v unjust_o excommunicate_v and_o condemn_v here_o shall_v be_v own_v and_o absolve_v there_o and_o so_o in_o this_o respect_n it_o may_v be_v say_v true_o that_o whoever_o will_v continue_v obstinate_a and_o rebel_n against_o light_n as_o they_o that_o here_o blaspheme_v against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n must_v not_o expect_v to_o have_v his_o sin_n forgive_v either_o in_o this_o life_n by_o the_o church_n or_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v when_o god_n shall_v appear_v in_o judgement_n and_o so_o it_o come_v to_o what_o st._n marc._n say_v remittetur_fw-la hier._n in_o mat._n 5._o huic_fw-la nullo_n tempore_fw-la blasphemia_fw-la remittetur_fw-la he_o have_v never_o forgiveness_n and_o what_o st._n hier._n say_v upon_o the_o place_n this_o blasphemy_n shall_v never_o be_v forgive_v he_o the_o sin_n which_o the_o romanist_n will_v have_v forgive_v in_o the_o next_o life_n sin_n venial_a sin_n be_v venial_a or_o light_a sin_n but_o why_o these_o forgive_v in_o the_o next_o world_n when_o the_o great_a sin_n be_v forgive_v in_o this_o life_n as_o they_o acknowledge_v unto_o those_o justify_v person_n who_o they_o send_v to_o purgatory_n why_o shall_v such_o small_a sin_n which_o do_v not_o cut_v off_o the_o state_n of_o justification_n or_o put_v the_o person_n out_o of_o the_o favour_n of_o god_n be_v retain_v and_o call_v so_o so_o severe_a a_o reckon_n as_o be_v that_o of_o the_o purgatory_n prison_n it_o be_v true_a that_o sanctify_a person_n after_o their_o justification_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o daily_a subreption_n of_o such_o light_a sin_n but_o see_v as_o st._n aug._n 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