68 69. 7. In placing pardon and Justification onely in the conscience many of the children of God who injoy not assurance but walke in darknesse in that respect are concluded to be in sin and unjustified which is not onely uncomfortable but contrary to the Scriptures and the Saints experience it s an error therefore to affirme that men must beleeve and be assured of the remission of sinne to the end they may be remitted Heb. 10. 14. By Perfect is not meant pardon of sin they were sins and after washed 1 Cor. 8. Ans What then doth it meane is not he that is perfect without fault did not Christ by himselfe purge our sinnes Heb. 1. 3. Was it not enough and to purpose They alledge 1 Joh. 3. 9. 5. 18. Whosoever is horne of God sinneth not c. Ans It s not I but sin that dwelleth in me Rom. 7. 20. If sinne and a beleever be one how can he say it s not I therefore I and sin are two things we say Whosoever is borne of God sinneth not and we doe sinne and have sin if this be a contradiction you know where we had it O but say they Gods people cannot sinne in Gods account Ans We neither say so nor thinke so but thinke and say the contrary beleevers sinne and they see it therefore God much more and counts it as it is sin also we say there is no condemnation to be inflicted on the Elect for their sinne Rom. 8. 1. 33. Your doctrine causeth men not to feele the sense of sinne and to cry to God for pardon nor to know the sweetnesse of pardon Ans If by sense of sinne you meane the horrour and terrour of it we desire not such a sense of sinne nor wish it you nor doe we fetch our comfort from our sense of sinne or teares or crying nor our best workes but onely and alone from the love of God in the death of Christ we have made a Christ of our workes teares and crying long enough An Answer to a Treatise intituled Ancient and durable Gospel written in answer to my Booke intituled Justification by Christ alone HE saith It s well you yeeld to the truth at last if you had done so all this while I had spared my labour in opposing you you confesse what I stand for p. 93. 97 98. Ans You should have read my Booke before you answered it if I confesse that which you stand for you might wel have spared your labour you answer and contradict your selfe and so contradict your selfe that your Booke needeth no answer to throw it downe it will fall alone for he affirmes things unreasonable He saith Son-ship and purity goeth together p. 12. We are Sonnes when we beleeve p. 76. We are not purified till Christs second coming Salvation and Son-ship came together p. 77. Yet no man is saved till Christs second coming We are Sonnes by faith when God is our God we shall c. p. 11. 19. Adoption and Redemption came both together p. 77. Yet our Redemption is not yet p. 44. We are justified by faith before God p 87. Faith by which we are justified yet Faith doth not nor cannot justifie p. 32. 89. We are not justified while we act sinne p. 107. No man is justified in this life we shall be justified when Christ againe appears not before p. 105. When they beleeve they by faith become Sonnes p. 76. We are Sonnes by faith p. 77. That faith makes us Sonnes I utterly disowne p. 76. Are not these contradictions So he contradicts the expresse Scripture such deserve no answer instance he saith Our sinnes remaine our sinnes are not laid upon Christ and taken away as yet p. 55. He saith We are not healed till Christs second coming p. 57. Contrary to 1 Pet. 2. 24. Christ saith Woman thy sinnes are forgiven thee Mat. 9. 2. I write unto you little children because your sinnes are forgiven you 1 Joh. 2. 12. Yet he saith Forgivenesse of sinne is not in this life p. 63. He saith Health of body and outward cures are forgivenesse of sinnes p. 16. Our sinnes are not remitted but imputed to us till Christs second coming p. 94. And that beleevers are under the curse and doe beare it p. 67. He denieth God to be their God who beleeve and that we have no interest in God He saith We shall have interest and propriety in God at his next appearing in the world to come when God is our God we shall not need Word nor Ordinances p. 11 12. 15 16. 19. 20. Contrary to the expresse word of God Psal 48. 14. Joh. 20. 17. God saith He will not remember our sinnes He saith He will remember them till we sinne no more p. 57. And that these Scriptures Col. 1. 21. Eph. 5. 26. Isa 53. Song 4. 7. 2. Cor. 2. 21. Eph. 3. 17. Rom. 8. 33. are not relations of things done but prophesies of this to come p. 48 49. 57. 63. 65. He might as well have said those words we have all sinned in Rom 3. is a prophesie as well as Rom. 8. 33. Who shall lay any thing to the charge of Gods Elect He might as truly have said Christs Testament is a prophesie and is to be understood in the Future tense and then Christ as yet is not crucified dead and risen c. Since he said to those words in Isa 53. 6. He hath laid on him the iniquity of us all he could not tell whether they were or no So he hath added and detracted altered and falsified some of my words and left out the Scripture and strength of what I wrote which is but a flight answering therefore a slight answer is more then enough The maine difference lieth in the time of Justification I say it was when he shed his bloud others say it is when men beleeve he saith it is not till the next world I have given my Reasons from the Scripture and answered all the objections that I know are made against this doctrine with as much love and tendernesse as their expressions against the truth would admit and now I have declared the truth and pleaded for it in faithfulnesse love plainnesse and singlenesse of heart as in the sight of God Christ was called a deceiver Mat. 27. 63. Therefore I wonder not if I be so called yea and I expect it and that which Christ his followers in teaching the truth to meet with which was Some beleeved the things that were spoken and some beleeved not Acts 28. 24. I passe not if any condemne me so they do not condemne Christ and his truth seeing all shall worke for good therefore I am satisfied in committing all to God And concerning the doubt which doth arise in many concerning Communion whether we may have Communion in the Ordinance of the Supper with such as hold contrary to this truth so much contented for I answer to the question whether we may walke in communion with those that
is Tâ—y necke with Chaines Christs commands are these chaines Our necks are not too good for Christs chaines chaines are for use and for ornament for use for service and to keep in order and restraine Chaines Many chaines chaines are for service and for strength to hold and last long a horse may snap a bridle asunder but a chaine will hold him if not many chaines will The Law of God is this bridle or chaine to restraine order and guide us in the right way in which wee are to walke the many commands of God are the chaines which are as a bit to be put in our mouthes and upon our cheekes and about our neckes if the commands of God were not strong and durable we have such stiffe necks we need chaines to hold us else we would breake them snap them asunder as Sampson did his cords by nature we are like the Horse and wilde Asse and swift Dromedary Jer. 2. 23. We are not easily catched and when we are we need be chained Also chaines are for ornament so are Gods commands My sonne beare thy fathers instructions they shall be as a comely ornament unto thy head and as chaines for thy necke Pro. 1. 8 9. Chaines of gold Song 1. 10. The more of these chaines we have in our mouths and about our neckes the better and the more faire and beautifull our neckes are no Jewels of gold or pearle can adorne any so as these chaines adorne they are ornaments to us it s a shame to us not to have these chaines about our neckes we live in evill times the commands of God men reject and perhaps count it Religion to doe so but yee that love the Lord abhorre such a thought Gods own people are to be ruled by him by his commands allow our selves to be set free from the commands of God is unreasonable and abominable 11. We will make for thee we saith God as Gen. 1. 26. Rowes of gold with specks of silver Divers ornaments severall fruits of the Spirit Gal. 5. 22 23. They are from God created by him Phil. 1. 29. Eph. 3. 16. Phil. 2. 13. to beautifie our conversation c. that it may be for his glory else it is not comely The soule saith 12. While the King Jesus Christ Sitteth at his Round Table With his Church at the Lords Table Mal. 1. 12. 1 Cor. 10. 21. With his Church at his spirituall banquet the Lords Supper a Round Table hath no upper end My spikenard is very costly spice Joh. 12. 3. A sweet smelling spikenard full of vertue see Song 4. 13 14. The breaking of Christs body in the Supper is this sweet precious Spikenard that fils the place with sweetnesse so the fruits of Christs death is held forth in the 〈◊〉 of ointment of Spikenard with which Christ was anointed Joh. 12. 3. Giveth forth the smell thereof The sent thereof fills soules with sweetnesse Joh. 12. 1 2 3. It sents forth Redemption Salvation happinesse and glory and what not Oh! the sweetnesse of these none can expresse nor conceive what joy delight or consolation is like this of Christ dying for my sinnes c. It causeth the soule to extoll Christ and say 13. A bundle of Myrrhe is my beloved unto me This holds forth the greatnesse of the contentment satisfaction and joy the soule takes in Christ in the fruits of his death the soule desires ever to take comfort in these benefits and bundle them up together least they be scattered and to seeke tie them up together in a bundle its the sweetest poesie ever to smell on to comfort refresh thy selfe withall A bundle of Myrrhe is sweet but nothing so sweet as Christ and his benefits is to me I finde by experience he is so to me there is nothing to be compared to him there is nothing so sweet and pleasing as is sweet Jesus unto me What is a mountaine of myrrhe and a hill of frankinsence Song 4. 6. Dropping sweet smelling myrrhe Song 5. 13. The bundle of my workes is not so sweet to me Love is as strong as death the coales thereof hath a most vehement flame Song 8. 6. The heate of these coales were so exceeding hot and the flame so vehement it scorched and burnt up all my righteousnesse ere I was aware that bundle is gone now I need it not for my beloved is a better bundle unto me I leane not on any thing but on my beloved Song 8. 5. I have nothing else to leane upon nor is any thing else worth the smelling on he is my delight and all my pleasure in the sence of sinne and wants I comfort my selfe in the Righteousnesse of Christ He shall lie all night The night is the saddest time by reason of darknesse the night is a sad time by reason â—f feares Song 3. 8. Many walke in darknesse Isa 50. 11. When my soule is most sad and darke he shall lie all night the soule is to own and imbrace Jesus Christ and rest satisfied in him Between my brests When I am at the worst Christ I desire and nothing but Christ I leave all to imbrace my beloved he shall lie as near my heart as may be he is onely sweet to me I will have him alone and nothing else to lie between my breasts that I may smell on him and be satisfied with his sweeetnesse when I am at the worst he is enough for me he alone will I imbrace and fill my soule with his loves and sweet solace The breasts is the place of consolation and satisfaction Isa 61. 10 11. A bundle of myrrhe is sweet for sent but not so sweet as he my soule solace thy selfe with him and take thou no content but in him I am my beloveds and his desire 〈◊〉 towards me Song 6. 10. 14. A cluster of Cipres is my welbeloved unto me Cipres is sweet it hath reference to Christ in the fruits of his death Redemption Salvation Justification c. are all clusters together in one and not to be parted Christ hath joyned them in one part them not In the vineyard of Eâ—gedy A fruitfull soile Jos 15. 6. 2. Ezek. 47. 10. So Christs death is wonderfully fruitfull who can reckon up his benefits all which are the fruits of his death Christ saith to the soule 15. Behold thou art faire my love behold thou art all faire It s twice repeated because Christ would have his to know and minde their beautie Isa 62. 5. Song 7. 6. Thine eyes are as doves eyes Good eyes and cleare as the eyes of doves by the Rivers of waters washed with milke Song 5. 12. It holds forth the soules quick-sightednesse in the mystery of Christ Eph. 3. 4. Secondly Doves eyes are chaste Doves eyes within thy looks Song 4. 1. It holds forth the soules chastnesse to Christ they are covered except it be to Christ their eyes are fixed on him they looke not to their workes for life but freely part with all their
doe not make us the better before God nor the more beloved of God but they declare us to be what we are made by God The Papists doe as they say many good works to be saved but we abhorre it because it is condemned of God Not of workes least we should boast If it were of works it were not of grace Therefore all those that expect hope for mercy because they leave their sinnes and doe many good workes as they thinke alas they are greatly deluded they are not taken off of selfe-works and selfe-concurrence with Christ you are ignorant of the righteousnesse of Christ therefore yee goe about to establish your own righteousnesse and so long as yee doe so yee cannot submit to the righteousnesse of God see Rom. 10. 3. But if thou didst know what a righteousnesse Christ is thou wouldst have preferred it before thy own yea it would be esteemed by thee but dresse and dung to his Phil. 3. 8 9. Publicans and Harlots are neerer salvation then thee as righteous as thou art who work for life as the blind Pharisees did and perished see Mat 21. 31 32. Luk. 7. 29 30. We are not commanded to doe any thing to procure the pardon of our sinnes but in reference to service and duty I doe count my selfe never the nearer heaven for my best works then if I had never done any thing but swore and blasphemed God it s to him that worketh not Rom. 4. 2 3 4 5. We are saved not according to our workes but according to his own purpose and grace 2 Tim. 1. 9 Doth not God speake plaine enough to the question in saying it is not according to our works And when we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son Rom. 5. 10. I will doe away thy offences for my Names sake Isa 43. 25. When thou wert polluted in thy own bloud I said unto thee live then was the time of love Ezek. 16. 6. 8. From hence it is that all that see this mystery of Gods free grace that salvation is not according to our works they cry grace grace Christ Christ Christ is all in all nothing but Christ now all their prayers teares duties devotions all of theirs is nothing to them in respect of their acceptation justification or salvation they are dead to working they will not stirre to doe the least worke in the world to attaine any of these c. Heb. 4. 10. All ours is vanished in the infinite ocean of Gods free love it s so that God might have all the glory Eph. 1. 6. Jer. 9. 24. and that man might not boast Rom. 3. 9. but obey God freely Luk. 1. 74. I have no worke of God wrought in me The Spirit shall convince the world of sin and of righteousnesse Joh. 16. 7 8 9 10. God hath begun his worke in thee if he hath convinced thee of sin and of righteousnesse to be convinced of sin is for the soule to see it selfe utterly lost and undone by reason of sin they confesse thâ—y are vile and abhorre themselves Job 42. 6. They loath themselves for their deeds Ezek. 20. 43. 2. The soule is convinced so as to have no hope in any thing it can doe to help it selfe this is to be undone in nature so as he cannot doe any thing from whence he may expect salvation or have any hope of it for a man cannot expect life and salvation from Christ alone untill the soule be taken off all other things in respect of life This vision of God causeth the soule to see themselves and say There remaineth no strength in me my comelinesse is turned in me into corruption Dan 10. 8. That is now the case is altered from what it was now my best workes my righteousnesse is defiled and is sin now sinfull-selfe and righteous-selfe are alike if there be any difference the last is the worst now the creature hath nothing to procure Christ nor no strength to beleeve in him the Spirit of God reveales to the soule that there is nothing but darknesse and death in our best duties it is from grace to be taken off of nature and he that is taken off of nature hath grace is borne of God When the soule is taken off its own bottome it must have another to rest on or else it sinkes therefore when God takes away the soules false foundation which is her false hopes he gives the soule a better in himselfe this is the teaching and drawing of the Father Joh. 6. That in Christ there is a ransome in which is life and that all that Christ hath done is for him and that nothing will stand the soule in any stead but him when the soule hath learned this there is a secret power goeth with this teaching and carrieth the soule to Christ to beleeve in him for the teaching of the Father and faith goeth together Every one that hath heard and learned of the Father cometh unto me Joh. 6. So that to convince the soule of righteousnesse is to convince it of Christ to reveale that in him onely is helpe and in his righteousnesse is deliverance I have laid helpe upon one that is mighty Psal 89. 19. So that the Lord doth fix and settle the soule upon Christs righteousnesse onely at least he puts the soule under the hope of it Ezek. 16. 5 6. When the soule seeth nothing but death God saith live and when the soule is a going downe into the pit God saith Stay hearken I have received a Ransome for thee see Job 34. 23 24. Now the soule wonders at the love of God in pardoning his sinne he is taken up as Luk. 1. 41. 43 Though for the measure it is not in all the Lords alike The Spirit discovers to the soule that it hath chosen something else besides Christ upon which the soule resteth and satisfieth her selfe withall and expects mercy and comfort from her best workes and other lying vanities telling the soule that there is nothing but death in them God by this teaching turneth the soule from darkness viz. selfe Satan and all other lying vanities to light to Christ where life is telling the soule there is life in Christ and that it need not seeke life in nothing else but to waite upon Christ for it and that the soule shall not loose its waiting but shall certainly have it at last Isa 57. 13. These things are wrought in some measure Some are strong others are weake and are called carnall and not spirituall yet they are babes in Christ therefore they were in a happy state 1 Cor. 3. 1. 3. In the same measure this work is wrought in the soule in the same measure faith is wrought and as it appeares to the soule so faith appeares to the soule I know not whether I may beleeve for some shall not be saved The Scripture doth declare that he that beleeves shall be saved Joh. 3. 16. You are to rest satisfied in the Word of
to say to us Gal. 3. 10. Deut. 27. 4. Gal. 5. 23. 4. 26. 31. Therefore we are freed from the punishment of sin The Law is holy just and good Rom. 3. 31. the righteousnesse of the Law remaines and every one ought to frame his life according to the same wee receive not the Law as given by Moses but as given by Christ he gives the same Law for his to obey though not upon the same termes though we have nothing to doe to be saved yet we have something to doe for his glory Joh. 15. 8. Wee are commanded to be carefull to maintaine good workes Titus 3. 8. For any to say we are not to observe the ten Commandements called the Morall Law ten words is abominable for if I am not tied to observe it I sin not if I doe contrary to it it s no marvell if such be abominable in their hearts and lives I grant we are freed from the curse and punishment of it but not from the things contained in it the Law concernes our conversation though not our salvation Be yee holy in all manner of conversation this is the Saints prize yee that love the Lord hate evill and abhorre to company with such as slight the commands of God see the Saints daily duty part the second Christ hath a yoke and we ought to put it on Mat. 11. 29. Mat. 14. 23. 31. It s easie and a sweet mercy to observe it The power of divine love will sweetly and violently draw the soule to obey Christ see Titus 2. 11. 3. 8. Christ saith If any man love me he will keepe my words Joh. 14. 23. 15. 16. Eph. 2. 10. Such as love Christ they desire and endeavour with all their soules to obey him For such as love sin and take liberty to sin such as turne the grace the love of God into wantonnesse and say they are saved c. they are liers they mocke themselves and others they have need to consider 1 Joh. 1. 6. Gal. 5. 13. to 23. 6. 5. 7 8. Rom. 2. 17. c. they are the basest among men it s a certain truth as a man beleeves so he obeys as his faith is so are his workes good or bad Observe and take heed of those that speake for liberty for the flesh say to such thou art one of them for thy speech bewrayeth thee When Christ comes into the soule all things are become new old things are done away 2 Cor. 5. 17. Fire shall as soone cease to burne as such shall cease to obey God 27 Argu. That which is for our profit that is a mercy to us and no punishment for sin but Gods chastisements and corrections sent to us are for our profit Heb. 12. 10. They are to correct our injustice but not to satisfie Justice they are to amend us not to pay God they are to exercise the fruits of the Spirit in us not payments without them we neither know God nor others nor our selves they imbitter sin unto us we need them to turne us from sin to God seeing wee are the better for them how are they punishments to us 28 Argu. That which comes from the love of God that is sweet that is not a punishment for sin which is from anger But whom the Lord loveth he chastiseth Heb. 12. 6 7. 8. Gods chastisements are love-tokens all Gods dispensations bitter or sweet are a portion of love to his crosses and afflictions I receive as love and my escape from them if God so ordereth it I receive as love hunger cold and nakednesse paine griefe and wearinesse though in themselves they are punishments yet they are not so to us if they be curses and wrath to the Elect how are we delivered from the curse Gal. 3. 13 14. and wrath 1 Thes 1. 10. Therefore to affiâ—me that wee are punished for sin is to deny we are delivered from the curse which is contrary to Gal. 3 13 14. 29 Argu. If they be blessed that God correcteth thou they are no punishments of sin but blessed is the man that thou chastisest Psal 94. 12. Our God turned the curse into a blessing Nehe. 13. 2. Therefore they are no punishments of sin 30 Argu. If God by corrections teacheth us then it s no punishment for its a mercy to be taught but God by corrections teacheth us Heb. 12. 9. Therefore they are no punishments to us 31 Argu If all things worke together for our good Rom. 8. Then all falls paines diseases crosses afflictions c. doe us no hurt but worke for our good all things worke for our good Rom. 8. 28. Death it selfe is a mercy to us we die not to satisfie Justice but to passe through it into eternall glory provided for us for me to dye is gaine Christ hath borne the whole punishment of my sinnes There shall no evill come unto thee Psal 91. 10. So that whether I live or die I am freed from the punishment of sin the sting of death is sin now that is gone we are saved from death though we die death is an entrance into life 1 Cor. 15. 55. 32 Argu. Those whose iniquities are pardoned they shall never be punished for them but our iniquity is pardoned Isa 42. 1 2. Therefore we are freed from the punishment of sin for that which is pardoned is not punishable how is it pardoned if we are punished for it or liable to be punished for it to forgive a man his sin and not the punishment is as if one should say I forgive thee the debt but not the payment of the debt our sinnes were debts 33 Argu. Those whose sinnes God hath forgiven he will not punish if he will how are they forgiven but God hath forgiven the sinnes of his people thou hast forgiven the iniquity of thy people thou hast covered all their sin Psal 85. 2. To forgive sinne and to cover it is one thing if all be covered there are none to cover my happinesse is not in having a few sins or many but in that they are all â—orgiven and not imputed to me Psal 32. 1 2. We are imperfect in our selves and action yet all our imperfectnesse is perfectly forgiven we are perfected for ever that is perfectly freed from the punishment of sin for eveâ— by the offering of himselfe Heb. 10. 10. 12. 14. The righteousnesse of Christ availeth for ever for all our sinnes if the bloud of Christ clenseth us from all sinne Joh. 1. 29. then from sin past present and to come for that is all lesse is not all as Christ by his death satisfied for all our sins so by one act of our faith we are to apprehend and beleeve the pardon of them Rom. 5. 11. to 24. This must needs be so for if we shall ever commit any sin that is not satisfied for by his sufferings Christ must come and suffer againe or eâ—â—e we must perish in the unpardonable sin for without his bloud there is no
that it doth for ever remaine in force a full satisfaction for all the sinnes of the Elect. This is very sweet and full of divine consolation to satisfie the discouraged soule which is the maine thing intended by such expressions it is a figurative speech as the Scripture ascribes to God eyes hand arme the Anthropomorphites conclude that God the Father hath a body with eyes like unto us So the Papists picture him to be an old man c. If one should say God is capable of forgetfulnesse because he saith he will remember our sinnes no more These conclusions are unreasonable and so is your position that Christ speakes words now in his person c. But he saith Christ doth as much worke for us in heaven at this instant as ever he did on the earth p. 214. Ans You confesse that a Surety is more then an Intercessor and is it not more to dye for one then to speake for him if so Intercession is not so much see you not how you contradict your selfe in your discourse Christ is said to be set downe at the right hand of God to declare to us that his work is done while the Priest was executing his offices he was to stand Heb. 10. 11. Which declared that Christ the substance of those Priests was not to sit untill he had finished in his person his offices of Priesthood He saith That none of his offices should lie idle he appoints this full and perpetuall worke in heaven that as a Priest by praying and interceding God would have Christ never to be out of offices or out of worke for ever Heb. 7. Ans If the end of Christs praying and interceding is that he might not be out of offices or out of worke then it s not because of our sinnes That he doth execute any offices in his person in glory or that he doth any worke there is still to prove doe the Angels pray for us c. or are they idle oâ— out of worke He saith He lives but to intercede p. 208. Ans Then it seemes after this life when all the Saints are gloried Christ must continue praying and interceding for us or else he must cease to live I hope you will not say when we are in glory that he shall need then to intercede for us if so then it seemes he shall be out of office or out of worke by your exposition you have run your selfe upon a rock I shall be glad to see you get off againe I have afforded you my helpe He saith His living to intercede is said to keepe God and us friends that we may never fall out more though pardoned by his death Intercession is principally intended for sinnes after conversion p. 208. God saies to him now doe you looke to them that they and I fall out no more not but sinnes after conversion are taken away by his death and sinnes before it by intercession also p. 209. Ans God saith no such thing you vent your vaine conceits and father them upon God and say he sayes so I wonder at your boldnesse sure you either know not what you say or thinke you may say any thing When you write againe tell us in what place wee may reade that God says so it is better to say lesse and prove more 2. Can you tell that ever God fell out with his Elect and was not their friend or that it is possible for God not to love us or not to be a friend to us you insinuate both but are able to prove neither 3. Tell me what is God liable to fall out with us for if for sinne you confesse that is pardoned by his death and those sinnes after conversion taken away by his death to what purpose is it for Christ to pray and intreat for that which he knows is pardoned before and what hath God granted Christ in granting the pardon of that which was pardoned before Suppose I pay to one all that I owe him all that he can desire and require need I pray and intreat him to forgive me the debt but if I doe and he grant my desire he forgives me nothing because I owe him nothing is not this the case also how are our sinnes pardoned if we be liable to suffer for them 4. You present God to be a friend but a very uncertaine one in that he need to have one to be continually praying and intreating him to keep him friends with us that we may not suffer for that which is pardoned hath God pardoned us and is he now ready to destroy us he said he would remember our sinnes â—o more Heb. 10. 17 18. And doth he now remember them You present God to be changeable who is immutable and changeth not 5. You present God to be an angry God yet God saith Anger is not in him Isa 27. 4. How can I or Christ say thy will be done if his will be to fall out with us it seemes he hath a great will to it if he must be continually prayed and intreated to forbeare and to be â—acified and not to fall out with us 6. The Father needs no more intreating then Christ doth and that is none at all for these Reasons There is no place for Intercession for 1. Because satisfaction is made for the sinnes of the Elect for them it was that Christ suffered death it is an act of injustice for to suffer for that which is satisfied for or to require any thing of me for that which before full satisfaction hath been made 2. We are reconciled therefore need none to reconcile us also his death is that which reconciled us therefore not his praying and intreaty Rom. 5 10. Before Christ suffered he made intercession also there is no place for intercession for that which is pardoned by his death 3. If Christs bloud clenseth from all sin praying and intercession clenseth us not from any sinne 4. If Christ blessing his Disciples blessed all those that shall beleeve to the end of the world as you confesse p. 42. and that the offering of himselfe once made so full a satisfaction as he needed to doe it but once p. 242. Why may not this intercession when he was upon the earth though if it were but once be as effectuall to serve for ever as the rest especially when we consider that in the 17. Of John Christ prayed for all that were given him that shall beleeve Christs prayer was granted Father I know thou hearest me alwayes What benefit have we to the end of the world by that prayer in John 17. if it was not sufficient and effectuall for us if it was sufficient and granted there is no need of his continued praying for it if Christ had intended in his person to pray and intreat for us now what needed Christ to have prayed for us when he was upon the earth so many hundred yeares before we were borne if he prayes so for us now would not they be sufficient for
Geree saith that Doctor Crispe condemnes doing any thing for our own salvation and is not ashamed to say there is no condition on mans part I say nothing is more evident in the Gospel then Conditions on the Covenant on mans part to wit Faith and Repentance without which he cannot be in the Covenant nor have any share in Jesus Christ As Masters covenant with their servants so doth God with his people and they with him and if it be not performed the covenant is frustrate Rom. 3. 27. Acts 27. 24. 31. 2 Cor. 6. 14. to 19. If we meane to have God for our God we must repent and come out and God will receive us and upon no other termes in the world therefore I conclude that Doctor Cripse is fully deceived and strangely deluded and so are all others as did and doe beleeve him Epist side 9. pag. 35. 37. 43. 67. 72. 75. 77 78 79. 80. 99. 102. Ans You prove not what you affirme Rom 3. 27 declares salvation is not of works this is a full place against you Acts 27. Except yee abide in the Ship yee cannot be saved this is a temporall salvation from drowning unlesse he brings this place to prove his soule shall not be saved whose body is drowned it s not to the question for the 2 Cor. 6. he alledgeth to prove that God is our God upon termes not else whereas these words were written to the Saints who were converted and the Church of God before this Epistle was written to them this Church of Corinth had some communion and fellowship with Idolaters therefore the Lord exhorts them to come out from amongst them and he would receive them declare himselfe to be their God and owne them to be his people in a Church Relation as Rev 1. 20. 2. 5. see pag. 170. To understand it concerning our eternall condition is to contradict the Scripture which saith He hath not dealt with us after our sinnes nor rewarded us after our iniquities Psal 103. 10. Psal 89. Gods love to his depends not upon what wee doe see Gods eternall good will to his Jer. 31. 3. 34. 40. Joh 13. 1. Luk. 22. 32. Joh. 17. 20 21. Mat. 21. 22. Rom. 8. 9. Joh. 14. 16. Joh. 10. 28. Phil. 2. 6. Rom. 11. 29. 1 Joh. 3 9. Mat. 24. 24. Tell me is Election Christs death conversion c. fruits of hatred or love if of love then God loved the Elect before they beleeved yea before they were borne Eph. 1. 4. If we are chosen to life according to the good pleasure of his will then we are not chosen to life according to our beleeving and repenting c. But the first is true Eph. 1. 5 6. Therefore the latter is true also nor are men chosen to life because God foresaw they would beleeve God is eternall the will of God is God he was never without his will what he now willeth he ever did therefore there could not be any cause to goe before it to cause it to be or so to be man cannot Elect without an act and time but it s not so with an infinite being Election is his eternall and immutable decree from eternitie Rom. 9. 11. Eph. 1. 4. 2 Tim. 1. 9. It is the more wonderfull and glorious that it is without beginning his love is everlasting Jer. 31. 3. Therefore without beginning as God is infinite without beginning so is his love for God is love 1 Joh. 4. 16. see Joh. 17. 23. Therefore God loves his as much before they beleeve as after The Scripture doth not say God began to love when we began to beleeve nor that he loves any the better because they beleeve it is a certain truth that Gods love to us is not as ours is to him In that yee would have men to doe something for salvation it appeares you are ignorant of the taking away of sinne by the death of Christ hence it is that you urge our works to be necessary to salvation and so did the Seducers Acts 15. 5. 20. 30. If it were as you say wee are under an absolute covenant of works Doe this and live men must do so and so saith the Papist or else no salvation so say you Though God hath promised and Christ purchased all good for beleevers yet they shall not have it unlesse they doe so c. Doe you not see how you exalt your workes above the skies yea above God and his promise and the death of Christ and make workes all in all because without them all is frustrate and comes to nothing What no share in Christ without our workes all is frustrate if it be so then our works are joynt Saviours with Christ chiefe Saviours is not this pure Popery and the Popes Doctrine to a haire yet it hath an Imprimatur J. C. is there not a cleare light of the Gospel in such Licensers see Jer. 5. 31. Gal. 5. 2. Christ undertook to obtaine for his remission of sinnes by his death but he did not performe it perfectly if it be in part by our workes if it depends upon our workes then it depends not upon the death of Christ or doe you bring in Christ to merit that your workes may merit salvation Most truly and worthily did Doctor Crispe contend for the sufficiency of Christs bloud to save us and you contend against him and contend for the sufficiency of your doings in bringing in your workes to salvation and so undervalue the bloud of Christ therefore I contend against you our workes are imperfect and that which is so cannot please God if yee say Christ makes it up with his perfection in adding Christ to piece it out to make it up its apparent yee make Christ but a piece of a Saviour which is the greatest indignity yee can offer to him We doe condemne the doing of any thing for our own salvation and the Reasons why we doe so are 1. We doe nothing to be saved because Christ hath saved us He came into the world to save us and he saved us before he ascended therefore we are not now to be saved from our sinnes Heb. 10 10. 12. 14. 1 Tim. 1. 9. It s too late for us to be paying the debt of our sinnes by our worke the debt being paid before by Christ for us God did execute on him in his death all the punishment that was due to us for our iniquities God doth rest satisfied in Christs satisfaction for the sinnes of his past present and to come Isa 53. 5 6. 11. Heb 10 10. 14. Blessed he the Lord God of Isael for he hath visited and redeemed his people and hath raised up an horne of salvation for us in the house of his servant David that wee should be saved from our enemies c Luk 1. 68 69. 71. Christ is the horne of Salvation 2. God requires no righteousnesse of us to save us because Christ hath fulfilled all righteousnesse for us Mat 3. 15. His
righteousnesse saves us from our unrighteousnesse In the beholding of sinne we consider God hath set against it Christs righteousnesse and that in his righteousnesse God is fully satisfied and therefore in it we rest fully satisfied Christs satiffaction by his death if laid in the ballance with that perfect obedience of the law required of us is of sufficient weight to answer the Justice of God the wise and just God would not have ordained it for that end if it had bin insufficient to satisfie for our sinnes to judge Christs death insufficient is very dishonourable to Christ 3. Salvation from sin is not mans act but an act of Christ by his death it s Christs worke to save us Mat. 1. 21. It s not our worke to save our selves not our workes but Christ is the price and pay-master for the sinnes of the Elect if wee could have saved our selves Christ needed not to come from heaven into the world to do it 1 Tim. 1. 15. Christ workes not salvation in us nor by us but brings salvation to us Isa 63. 5. Jesus Christ in one worke once performed by his death did eternally redeeme Rev. 5. 9. Justifie Rom. 5. 9. Sanctifie and perfect us for ever Heb. 10. 10. 12. 14. Heb. 2. 29. Then he reconciled all the Elect in the body of his flesh through death Col. 1. 21 22. His death is that price that paid to the utmost for all our sinnes our best workes cannot save us neither in whole nor in part 4. Heaven is an inheritance eternall inheritance Heb. 9. 15. An inheritance incorruptible and undefiled that fadeth not away reserved in heaven for you 1 Pet. 1. 4. That which wee possesse by right of inheritance wee never wrought for nor paid for left to one Pro. 13. 26. falleth to one Ezek. 47. 14. given Jer. 3. 18. Acts 20. 32. Heb. 11. 6. Ezek. 33. 24. Psal 78. 55. So this inheritance Acts 26. 18. Col. 1. 12. 3. 24. Christ bought it and paid for it his precious bloud a great price 1 Pet. 1. 18 19. Eph. 1. 14. It cost him so much that it might cost us nothing vaine man would worke for it to earne it and merit it men thinke they must doe something for it our doings could not procure it God would not have us to have it that way but by way of gift it s a free gift as appeares Rom. 6. 23. Eph. 2. 8 9. And that it could not be if it had been to be wrought for by us To him that worketh is the reward not reckoned free of grace but of debt Rom. 4. 4. The children of God are borne heires to it Rom. 8. 17. and it was prepared for them before they were borne Come yee blessed of my Father inherite the Kingdome prepared for you from the foundation of the world Mat. 25. 34. 5. Wee are not exhorted to forsake evill and doe good to the end wee may be saved but because it is our duty consider these places Rom. 4. 5. 5. 19. 1. 17. Gal. 2. 17. 3. 14. Joh. 3. 18. James 5. 24. Acts 10 43. 6. We doe nothing in the world to be saved because salvation is not given for our workes nor according to our workes God saith he imputeth righteousnesse without workes Rom. 4. 6. Not of workes Rom 9. 11. Who hath saved us and called us not according to our workes 2 Tim. 1. 9. Not of workes of righteousnesse which we have done but according to his mercy he saved us Titus 3. 5. If by grace it is no more of workes otherwise grace is no more grace if it be of workes then it is not of grace Rom. 11. 6. What can be more plaine Hence it is that wee are ceased from our own workes Heb. 4. 10. We did walke in the way of workes for salvation till God did hedge up our way with thornes our workes were those thornes which did pierce â—s and wounded us at the heart in stead of saving us they killed us these thornes did so pricke us that we were not able to goe any further in that way God opened our eyes that wee saw nothing but death in them then we ceased to worke for life and salvation We ought to doe good workes because God commands us to doe them and because they are for his glory see Titus 3. 8. 14. and because we are loved and saved from our enemies Luk. 1. 71. To doe good workes is good but not for salvation fire is good but not to put into the thatch nor under the bed unlesse yee meane to fire the house We perswade to good workes and strictnesse in holinesse of life because we are justified and saved without works yea before we did any good work for we did none before we were called Who hath saved us and called us 2 Tim. 1. 9. We were saved when Christ suffered upon the Crosse called when converted both eâ—â—ected in time but neither of them was according to our workes but according as he had purposed before the world began our workes remove not our offences nor make us just before God that which can cause to be accepted must be so perfect that the Law of God cannot except against see Lev 18. 5. Luk. 10 27 28. Our best workes are not so and therefore they will not stand us in any stead for salvation If wee could be saved by any workes Christ dyed in vaine I determined not to know any thing among you save Jesus Christ and him crucified 1 Cor. 2. 2. Remember that they that love Jesus Christ will keep his words see and consider Joh. 14. 23. 15. 16. 2. 10. Is Christ come not to doe his own will then we may not doe ours unlesse ours be his Joh. 6. 28 29. For those that take pleasure in sinne let them consider 1 Joh. 1. 6. 2. 4. Gal 5. 13. to 23. 6. 5. 7. 8. Rom. 2. 17. Mat. 7. 30. Luk. 6. 44. 13. 27. Christs love caused him to dye for us let his love constraine us to serve him he is worthy of our love if he hath thy affections he shall have thy actions if thou hast tasted of the sweetnesse of Christs love thou wilt say there is none so sweet as his who in his wounds hath buried and destroyed all thy sins to redeeme thee from them and purchase thy salvation 7. To doe for salvation were to bring in the law of workes he that seekes to be justified by the Law is fallen from grace Gal. 5. 4. The Law concernes our conversation not our salvation The righteousnesse of God is manifested without the Law Rom. 3. 21. No man is justified by the Law in the sight of God Gal. 3. 11. In mans sight he may Jam. 2. 24. By the deeds of the Law shall no flesh be justified in his sight Rom. 3. 20. We are not debtors to the Law Gal. 5. 23. 8. Those that are such great doers for salvation doe as little as others None of
appeares Rom. 8. 33. to the end The Elect shall be gathered together Mat. 24. 31. Joh. 11. 52. The election obtained it Rom. 1â— 7. He saith not that we obtained it by beleeving If beleeving were of absolute necessity to salvation such as dye in their infancy cannot be saved for they doe not beleeve as appeares Rom. 10. 14. 17. Faith is an assent a trust a perswasion Heb. 11. 13. A beleeving God v. 6. a judging God faithfull v. 11. Infants want understanding to beleeve for knowledge and saith are not without the knowledge of the Son of God Gal. 1. 16. 2. 20. That infants doe beleeve there is no reason nor Scripture for it If any say God is able to make them beleeve I answer God is able to fill this house full of gold but this is no proofe that he hath done it or that he ever will so here 15 Argu. If unbeliefe be not the unpardonable sinne then it cannot deprive the Elect of salvation but unbeliefe is not the unpardonable sinne for unbeliefe is a not beleeving in Christ this sin is immediately and directly against Christ therefore it s as pardonable as any other sin against Christ is as appeares Mat. 12. 31 32. Also the Elect have committed this sinne not onely before conversion but after and daily sin by unbeliefe in that we beleeve not all that we ought nor so as we ought to beleeve and dye in not beleeving that which we ought to beleeve is not this unbeliefe If finall unbeliefe be the unpardonable sinne none can be seene to commit this sinne before death for who can tell its finall till they dye but men may be seene to commit the sinne that is unto deaâ—h before they dye as appeares 1 Joh. 5. 16. Therefore finall unbeliefe is not the unpardonable sin 16 Argu. If the salvation of the Elect is sure and certaine then it depends not upon that which may faile but beleeving may faile therefore if it depends not upon beleeving if it did it might faile also but the salvation of the Elect is sure and certaine in that it depends upon a sure foundation the immutability of his Counsell Heb. 6. 16 17. Faith shall cease 1 Cor. 13. It is a creature Psal 5â— a worke and it groweth 2 Thes 1. 31. and increaseth 2 Cor 10. 1â— it may be overthrowne 2 Tim. 2. 18 19. What God saith I must beleeve he saith they did for a time beleeve Luk. 8. 13. The Devills beleeve James 2. 19. How could they have that taste Heb. 6. 4 5. Without beleeving how could they receive the knowledge of the truth Heb. 10. 26. Without beleeving how could they stay themselves upon the God of Israel Without beleeving ye see what they were Isa 48. 1. to 7. 58. 2. The nature of it is liable to faile else what need was there of Christs prayer that it might not faile Luk. 22. 32. It s a fruit of the Spirit one with joy peace goodnesse temperance Gal. 5. 22 23. And doe not one or more of these in a childe of God sometimes faile if it be denied the experience of the Saints doe sufficiently testifie to the truth of this but I will prove it by Scripture First for joy David saith Restore to me the joy of thy salvation Psal 51. 12. Had not he lost his joy it did faile him he wanted it and Heman a good man complaining saith Lord why castest thou off my soule I am distracted while I suffer thy terrors Psal 88. 14 15 16. What joy and peace had he if Joy and peace faile Why not faith they being one in nature Jeremiah saith I said my strength and hope is perished from the Lord Lam. 3. 18. If his strength and hope perished then faith perished if no hope then no beleeving if we cannot cast away our confidence why are we exhorted not to cast it away Heb. 10. 35. Beleeving and confidence are all one 2 Thes 3. 4. Eph. 3. 12. If their confidence might be cast away they might be without it see Heb. 3 6. with 1 Joh. 5. 14. Rom. 11. 20. Flesh and heart faile but not God Psal 73. 26. My hope hath he removed like a tree Joh. 13. 10. Joh. 20. 25. Psal 77. 2 7 8 9 10. If continue in faith 1 Tim. 2. 15. denieth the faith 1 Tim. 4. 1. 5. 12. denied the faith 1 Tim 5. 8. I speake as unto wise men judge what I say Many idolize their beleeving they live upon it fetch all their comfort from it and not from God in Christ 17 Argu. That which taketh away sin that justifieth us Christ tooke away sinne by his bloud therefore we are said to be justified by his bloud Rom. 5. 9 To be justified and to be free from sin is one that which justifieth us freeth us as the payment of the debt freeth the debtor from suits and imprisonments c. So Christ paying our debt is our justification from sinne our freedome from the punishment of sinne To be saved by Christ and to be justified by Christ is all one to be saved from our sinnes Mat. 1. 21. and to be justified from our sinnes Rom. 5. 17. is one thing It s not our beleeving but the Spirit that reveales to us we are justified the Spirit dwelleth in us 1 Cor. 3. 16. 1 Cor. 9. 19. Rom. 8. 11. 16. 1 Joh. 3. 24. The Spirit speaketh in us Mat. 10. 20. and sheweth us what Christ hath done for us 1 Cor. 2. 9 10. with 16. 13 14 15. Heb. 10. 15. 17. 1 Joh. 5 6. The bloud of sprinkling is the application of it to the conscience it speaketh good things to the conscience that all is paid this clenseth the conscience Heb. 12. 24. The worke of faith is onely to assent to the truth of what the Spirit in the Word saith and receive its testimony now to assent unto a thing is not to manifest it giving and receiving are two things Ephes 3. 5. 18 Argu. If Christs death be that thing for and by which we are justified then when that death was then we were justified but Christs death is the thing for and by which we are justified By his knowledge my righhteous servant shall justifie many for he shall beare their iniquitie Isa 53. 11. So that his bearing our iniquity was our justification from sinne and by his knowledge he knew whoâ—e sinnes he bore that is whom he justifâ—ed The Lord knoweth who are his 2 Tim. 2. 19. with Exod. 28. 21. c. By his knowledge he knew thee and me and he loved thee and me and gave himselfe for me and thee Gal. 2 20 To beare iniquity and to beare the punâ—shment of sinne is one thing if we are justified through the redemption which is in Jesus Christ Rom. 3. 24. Therefore it is evident wee are not justified through beleeving Rev. 5. 9. This is my body which was broken for you 1 Cor. 11. 24. He had not dyed but for you and
if we are to act faith continually to be justified because we sin continually it will follow we are not justified for ever and that we may despaire of ever injâ—ying one quarter of an houres sweet injoyment of Justification because in lesse time we sinne and so are unjust and to be justified againe and if it be so no man can say three minutes together he is a justified man because in lesse time he sinneth and then he is by faith to be justified againe but this it is for a man to justifie himselfe as the blind Pharisees justified themselves Luk. 16. 14 15. Call you this Justification which will last no longer and is to so little purpose it s but a shadow there is no truth nor substance in it they are like the Priests under the Law and their worke to lesse purpose Heb. 10. 11. Geree For satisfaction that they may see we derogate not a jot from Christ see Wards Sermon p. 68. Ans It seemes Wards Sermon saith they doe not therefore they doe not this is proofe enough for those that will thinke it so Geree How can this be a derogating unto Christ or an abrogating unto faith to say by beleeving we live and are justified from sinne c. Joh. 3. 33. p. 92. Ans How can it be otherwise seeing yee dishonour Christ and put him to open shame it is a very great evill yee doe your evill is great and grievous For 1. Christ should be lifted up but yee pull him downe in that yee deny him his perfection and glory yee derogate from his sacrifice in that yee deny it to be sufficient to save us 2. Yee bring in workes beleeving and repentance c. as joynt causes of salvation and deliverance from wrath 3. In desiring something beyond his perfection yee make Christ an imperfect Priest and his sacrifice imperfect 4. Ye disgrace Christ in adding your righteousnesse to his ye deny the efficacy of his death and deny him to be able to save to the uttermost 5. In that ye would have something done for salvation ye deny it depends alone upon Christ for it depends not alone upon him if it also depends upon any other condition or additions 6. Ye deny salvation to be a free gift freely given us if we must doe for it and so earne it else as you say we shall not have it and so you make salvation uncertaine and doubtfull 7. Ye make Christ a meere shadow in comparison of your workes in saying the promise of God and the death of Christ is frustrate to us unlesse we performe such conditions 8. In saying we are justified by beleeving ye deny we are justified by Christ which is dangerous though it hath a shew of truth because Christ and beleeving are two things so that it s to divide our Justification between God and man Christ and us his workes and ours 9. Ye deny Justification and Salvation to be accomplished by Christs obedience in making it to depend upon our obedience and so ye impute it in part if but in part to our selves so overthrow the death of Christ 10. Ye make not Christ but faith and repentance c. the meanes of our salvation 11. Ye give that to beleeving c. which is proper to Christ in that ye attribute Justification which is the chiefe and maine thing Christ hath done for us to beleeving Isa 45. 24. 53. 11. 12. You make beleeving a cause of Justification in saying without it we cannot be justified 13. In saying beleeving is imputed for righteousnesse ye make it our righteousnesse or charge God to impute that for righteousnesse which is not righteousnesse 14. Your opinion ingendreth unto bondage it leaves the conscience in feare it robs it of peace joy and consolation it s an enemy to a chearfull and free serving of God 15. To say that we are justified by Christ and faith together is dishonourable to Christ for if we be justified by both then not by one and so Christ is made no Saviour in their judgements he is but a halfe Saviour I desire to know how it can be made out that we are justified by Christ if we be justified by beleeving if we are justified by his bloud Rom. 5. 9. Unlesse beleeving be his bloud we are not justified by beleeving the Scripture doth not say that any one is justified from sinne by beleeving but we have been taught so and it is no easie matter to unlearne and leave a corrupt principle 16. Christ hath not all the glory of our salvation if we joyne beleeving or workes to Christ as a copaâ—ner with him faith must have a part of it and we our selves for wee beleeve as you confesse p. 6. 17. In saying we are not loved nor accepted untill we beleeve ye deny we are accepted for Christ sake 18. Ye attribute righteousnesse in part to our selves in attributing it in part to beleeving many please themselves with a conceit that they doe not dishonour Christ in attributing salvation to beleeving because faith is from Christ 19. If we may ascribe Justification to beleeving then by the same Reason we may ascribe Justification to love patience temperance c. yea to all our performances our good workes prayers teares c. Because the power by which we doe these is Christs Without me ye can doe nothing Joh. 15. 5. 20 You make Christ no Saviour at all though you confesse Christ dyed for us yet you affirme beleeving and workes save us He is all yet you make him nothing at all unlesse man please â—o make him and what he hath done something by beleeving c. Christ will be all 〈◊〉 thing in that if ye make him not all ye 〈◊〉 upon him O ye sonnes and daughters of the most High lift up your voyce and cry no inherent holinesse no workes of the Law to Justification It s not of workes of righteousnesse we have done but according to his mercy he saved us Titus 3. 5. to 9. In the Lord have I righteousnesse he is our righteousnesse Jer. 23. 6. My tongue shall talke of thy righteousnesse even of thine onely Psal 71. 16. 24. Geree Methinkes Ezek. 36. 26 27 28. should make him blush if he were alive they shall be my people and I will be their God p. 79. Ans You have cause to blush for writing your selfe a Preacher of the Gospel and are so ignorant a Preacher of the Law yea of Popery to be a Minister of the Law is to be a Minister of the Letter as appeares 2 Cor. 3. 6 7 8 9. Such a Minister you are 2. Such as belong to the Election of grace ever were and shall be the people of God yea all the world and all in it is Gods he saith My Gold it s his Ezek. And the beasts of ten thousand mountaines the world and all in it is his but when God saith I will be their God and they shall be my people the meaning is he will declare
our Righteousnesse Ezra 9. 15. 7. All that fallen man needed was onely a perfect righteousnesse to justifie and save him if beleeving could have been that to them Christ might have been spared 8. That which is our righteousnesse causeth us to be accepted and that is Christ Eph. 1. The Saints expect not any acceptance for any thing in them or acted by them Dan. 9. 18. Isa 71. 10. 16. It s most evident that Christ he is made unto us Righteousnesse 1 Cor. 1. 30. Therefore beleeving is not made our Righteousnesse Therefore our Righteousnesse is not in any thing but Christ in and by whom we are more righteous then Adam in his puritie and greatest glory Geree Beliefe makes us the children of God Ans Men are sonnes first by creation secondly by generation or thirdly by adoption A fourth way we know not The Elect are Sonnes before they beleeve which appeares by these Reasons 1. We are children and sonnes by adoption Eph 1. 5. We were sonnes when elected for Election is nothing else but our adoption by adoption Christ and the Elect became sonnes to God adoption and choice is one the Elect were chosen before the world Eph 1. 4. Adoption is acceptation of us in Christ therefore we were children before we beleeve before God declares mercy to Ephraim he calls him his Sonne Ephraim my Sonne I will surely have mercy upon him Jer. 31. 20. 2. The action of the Father is before the action of the Sonne adoption is attributed to the Father therefore it must in order be before Redemption which is the worke of the Sâ—nne so that the Elect were chosen before Christ did redeeme them by his death Rev 5. 9 Therefore adoption is before our redemption Eph. 1. 3 4 5. And our Redemption was before we beleeved Rev. â— 10. And therefore wee were sonnes before we beleeve 3. If we were not sonnes before Christ suffered he could not have brought sonnes to glory through suffering Heb. 2. 10. If not sonnes before he suffered how could we be his brethren It behâ—ved him to be like unto his brethren vers 17. But if they had not been children they could not be his brethren also Christ by his death justified children 4. We were given to Christ before he suffered for us then we were heires sonnes If ye be Christs then are ye Abrahams seed and heires c. That is children of God Gal 3. 29. So that our being Christs makes us the seed and not our beleeving 5. If a childe differs nothing from a servant Gal. 4. 1. That is one that is not a childe then he is a childe before he beleeves for if he beleeves he differs apparently 6. We are sonnes before we beleeve because we cannot beleeve without the Spirit for faith is a fruit of the Spirit Gal. 5. 22. Therefore we have the Spirit before we beleeve and we are sonnes before we have the Spirit for the Spirit had not been sent into their hearts if they had not been sonnes Because yee are sonnes God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Sonne into our hearts Gal. 4. 5. If the Reason he sent the Spirit into their hearts was because they were sonnes then it was not because of the smallnesse of the measure they had received therefore Gal. 4. 5. is to be understood of the first sending it into their hearts 7. If beleeving makes us the children of God it will follow we have no union nor interest in God without our act for we beleeve this sutes well with Popery 8. It s against truth and reason to beleeve that by beleeving I make my selfe a son and God my father if I beleeve my selfe to be a Kings sonne will beleeving it make me so if I beleeve brasse is gold will it be so he that is a Prince knowes not that he is so untill some time after he is so yet he is a Sonne and a Prince whether he knowes it or beleeves it or no therefore beleeving makes us not sonnes but by it we see our selves to be sonnes and injoy the comfort of it by beleeving 9. Some teach and say by baptisme I was made a member of Christ a childe of God and an inheritor of the kingdome of heaven and you say by beleeving yet it s by neither 10. Some have beleeved themselves to be sonnes yet see what God saith Isa 58. 2 3 4. Besides God saith Some beleeved for a time and after fell away Luk. 8. and that the Devils beleeve as James 2. Were these the sonnes of God if no then beleeving cannot make any a son sons by saith in Gal. 4. By faith is understood Christ or by faith we know our selves to be sonnes and by faith we appeare to be sonnes faith and workes being inseparable in any other sense it cannot be extended as I have proved Geree None can be in Christ without faith Rom. 11. 20. Eph. 3. 17. p. 97. Ans The Scriptures saith not any are in Christ by faith Christ saith Every branch in me Joh. 15. 2. 4. c. That is in the visible Church for that is called Christ 1 Cor. 12. 12. In this sense men may be in Christ and perish a contrary exposition inforceth a finall falling away c. There is a being in Christ by election Eph. 1. 4. But this not by beleeving therefore your conclusion is without a foundation Geree We are dead till we beleeve Ans We are so in our selves but alive unto God by Jesus Christ our life is hid with Christ in God Col. 3. 3 4. Geree That which is sinfull may justifie from sinne p. 91. Ans So you say but the Scripture doth not say so reade me this out of the word of God if ye cannot it must be placed among the unwritten verities or fables God doth not approve of that which is sinfull much lesse doth he justifie us for it or by it all that is sinfull is detestable and accursed the wrath of God is against it Rom 1. 18. Gal. 3. 10. Hab. 1. 13. That which makes us innocent makes us just and that is not sinne but Christ who is our righteousnesse Geree It justifieth not in regard of it selfe or worke but in regard of that which it holds being most worthy p 91. They over-honour faith indeed that say the very act of faith justifies which we utterly disclaime in the Arminians p. 90. Ans If faith justifieth as it holds then it justifieth as it is an act for to hold a thing is an act and yet ye say the act of saith doth not justifie I see you can contradict your selfe and disclaime what ye affirme 2. If faith justifie because by saith we receive justification then the act justifieth for its an act to receive also it will follow by this Reason that he that receives a pardon from a Prince may say his hand pardoned him because the hand received it and may â—e not as well say he pardoned himselfe because he received it The reason