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A10699 A Catholicke conference betvveene Syr Tady Mac. Mareall a popish priest of VVaterforde, and Patricke Plaine a young student in Trinity Colledge by Dublin in Ireland VVherein is deliuered the certayne maner of execution that was vsed vpon a popish bishop, and a popish priest, that for seueral matters of treason were executed at Dublin the first of February, now last past. 16ll. Strange to be related, credible to be beleeued, and pleasant to bee perused. By Barnabe Rych, Gent. seruant to the Kinges most excellent Maiestie. Rich, Barnabe, 1540?-1617. 1612 (1612) STC 20981; ESTC S115901 41,203 61

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of Christ to seeke there saluation in the bloude of a Traytor a seditious wretch that was onely canonyzed by the Pope for his Trayterous demeanure and disobedience to his lawfull prynce I tell you sir Tady you could not hauesought out a fitter fragment whereby to make manyfest the adultrous religion of your whorish church of Rome then this that you haue brought of that traitor Thomas Becket Ta. I thought asmuch before that you would take exceptions to him because he with stood the prynce for the Catholike cause but I hope you wil take no exceptyons to those inuocations that haue beene dedicated to our blessed Lady whereof ther are no small store one amongst the rest O Mariagloriosa c. O Mary glorious in dainties delitious prepare thou glorye for vs. Againe Mariamater Domini c. O Mary the Mother of our Lord the sonne of the eternall God helpe vs all that flie for helpe vnto thee Againe Maria gratia c. O Mary the mother of grace the mother of mercy defend thou vs from our ghostly enemies receiue vs at the houre of death Yet againe Veni Regina gentium c. come Queene of the Gentiles extinguish the fiery heate of our sinnes blot out whatsoeuer is a misse and cause vs to leade an innocent life These and many other that might be named all of them prouing that the inuocation of Saints hath beene both approued and had in vse in the church of Rome and I hope you haue heard of our Ladies Psalter that was printed at Paris almost 100. yeares since where the whole number of the 150 Psalmes are turned from Dominus to Domina quite topsie turuie from our Lord to our Lady Pa. I doe not so much wonder at that Syr Tady when now in the hottest Sunne shine of the Gospell wee see almost euery day whole Lordships to be sould and but to vphold Ladishippes but to speake reuerently of that blessed Virgin for the fruite of whose wombe all generations doe call her blessed her glorie doth not so much consist in the bearing of Christ as in her stedfast faith and beleeuing in Christ which caused her ioyfully to sing My soule doth magnifie the Lord and my spirit hath reioyced in God my Sauiour And therefore what Papistes doe attribute for honour is plaine blasphemie to that blessed Virgin for Christ being our hope and not our Lady they ascribing to her what shee is not doe thereby dishonour God and doe her no worship at all Howe wicked a thing is it then to thinke that the Saintes doe sometimes plague and punishe vs because wee doe them not that superstitious honour which is their dishonour and not onely our shame but also our sinne Ta. I see the repugnancy of our religion to bee such as there is no hope of reconcilement for what wee acknowledge to bee holy that you say is prophane and those rites and ceremonies which wee doe most indeuoure for deuotions sake in the exercise whereof we do seeke our greatest pietie those you condemne to bee superstitious Idolatrous and blasphemous and that our whole religion is nothing else but sacriledge and a dishonouring of God I will therefore reason no further in these matters that I see will not be holpen but tell mee now in the way of goodfellowship did you euer see a priest say Masse Pa. I will neuer deny it Syr Tady I confesse I haue seene a Masse Ta. Then you haue not liued altogether so irreligiously but that you haue once seene a Masse but tell mee truely howe did you like it Pa. O passing well I neuer sawe a thing that better pleased me but once Ta. And what was that one thing that you say pleased you better Pa. It was a Puppet play that was playd at Dubline but nowe this last summer Ta. Then the sight of a Puppet play was better pleasing to you then the sight of a Masse Pa. When your priest hath put on his masking apparell and hath gotten all his trinkets about him if there were an Irish Bag-piper by that had a deepe Drone to play and entertayne the time whilst the priest were in his Memento and had made an ende of all his dumbe showes what with the musicke of the one and the gestures of the other it woulde passe all the Puppet playes in the world Ta. Nowe I am of the like conceipt of your holy communion that is but a prophanation of the blessed Sacrament and no wayes concordable with Christes institution where you neyther receiue the flesh of Christ nor vse adoration Pa. The flesh of Christ is both eaten in the spirit and adored in the spirit yea the very eating of it is adoring of it sith it is not eaten but by beleeuing for hee that beleeueth not eateth not the flesh of Christ. Ta. As though the flesh of Christ were not inclosed in the forme of bread and corporally eaten with the mouth of man Pa. But doth the infidell or vnbeleeuing man receiue Christ so really as you say if he receiue your sacrament Ta. The denyall of it is the high way to all those heresies that are helde by the Protestants and till they beleeue that what doe they but blaspheme the doctrine of the Catholicke Church Pa. And the misconstruction of Christes words is it that leadeth the papistes to their Idolatry Ta. For our misconstruction take you no thought for we are past all feare of that Pa. And those that are past all feare are commonly past all recouery and he is in most danger of death that in an extreamitie of sicknesse feeleth it least Ta. Our intent is to worship Christ wee haue no meaning to worship the elements of bread and wine as you vntruly report but the blessed body of Christ that is conteyned in those accydents of bread and wine Pa. But speake truly Syr Tady doe you adore the bodie of Christ in the misteries by a spirituall vnderstanding or doe you adore the mysteries themselues Ta. Finding him really and corporally in the sacrament there we worship him where we find him Pa. If your zeale bee such to worship Christ in euery place where you find him why doe you not worship the Priest when he hath beene at masse or any other man that is a member of the Church Ta. Doe you thinke that Christ is no otherwise in the Sacrament then he is in a mortall man Pa. I tell thee he is more truly really and naturally in those men that be his members then he is in the elements that be vsed at his table Ta. O blasphemy blasphemy O horrible and shamelesse heresie is any mortall man transubstantiated into Christ as the elimentes are by power of consecration Pa. The wordes of Saint Paul 2. Corin. 13. Know yee not your selues that Christ is in you except ye be reprobate persons Away now with your transubstantiating the elimentes into Christ the sacrament is no part of the mistycall body of Christ as we are for we are knit vnto
heades and to wrest the scepter out of their handes then you say truth they suffered for their consciences but if your priestes and Iesuytes were sent from Rome as Pioners to make ready the way for the Popes Bull that should haue disinherited the Prince and giuen his crowne to another as was apparantly proued and confessed by thēselues I wonder with what faces papistes can excuse those iustly condemned traytors and to intitle them for martyrs Ta. I cannot tell what was proued against them but I am sure they were cruelly executed but what should I neede to speake of matters that were done so many yeares past when we haue examples here at home that be yet bleeding new of two holy martyrs that were executed at Dublyne but vpon Candlemas eaue nowe last past the one a reuerend and a learned By shop inuested many yeares sithens to the Bishopricke of Downe by the Popes holinesse the other a holy Catholicke priest that did both together suffer martyrdome in a most constant manner onely for their consciences and for the testimonie of the Catholicke faith Pa. Now fye of the diuell and out vppon popery is it possible that any papist should be found so foolish to bring this matter into question vnlesse to shame himselfe or to make his religion ridiculous but doe you call him a reuererid and a learned ●yshop that was a very blocke without wit learning or honesty hee shewed it in the manner of his life but neuer more manifest then at the houre of his death It is truth he had his inuestment by the Pope for those Balamite Idyotes be fit instruments to spread the Popes doctrine especially in Ireland where the poore people are so infected with this Locust vermine of priests and fryars that they will sooner be leeue an Asse that comes from Rome with a Popes Bull then an Angell of heauen that shoulde bee sent with the light of Gods word Now for your holy priest that accompanied your learned Bishop me thinkes our papistes of Ireland should make intercession to our Lady that his name might neuer more be hadde in remembrance that at the time of his death did shewe himselfe to be the very disgrace of popery and an vtter reproch to the religion he professed Ta. Why Patricke although the priest did shew himselfe to be in some little astonishment with the terrour of the death hee was to indure yet he died constantly without revolting from his religion and the Byshop and hee together indured their martyrdome with patience enough Pa. I wonder with what shameles faces papists can auow those to be martyrs and to die for the testimony of their consciences that were both of them euycted of high treason and no matter of religion inforced against them was not your Byshop indited of sixteene seuerall articles of treason all of them openly confessed by himselfe and he condemned by his owne confession Ta. And yet I hope you will not deny but that all his articles which you say were so many treasons tended all to the aduancement of the holy church of Rome which euery honest man is bound in conscience to doe Pa. If all our priestes in Ireland that doe teach that doctrine to the poore silly people of that country were drawne hanged quartered as your Byshop was the kings maiesty would be both better beloued and more dutifully serued in Ireland then nowe he is Ta. Then I perceiue you do stil thirst after bloud is not your insatiate desire yet glutted enough with the death of those two worthy martyrs especially of that reuerend Bishop who was so dearely beloued through all the partes of Ireland aswell for his learning as for the seueral seruices he had performed to the holy church of Rome Pa. Sir Tady I protest I do thirst after no mans bloud neither doe I knowe any one papist in Ireland that I would seeke his life or wish his death but do rather both pittie him pray for him but I wonder you are not ashamed to intitle those for martyrs that were openly knowne traytors And what were those holy seruices that you say your Bishop was so dearely beloued for were they not his seditious practises that for many yeares together was still stirring vppe of the people to armes and rebellion were not these the articles wherewith he was accused the which himselfe confessed and for the which he was iustly condemned what other wit learning or honesty was in him that you so much magnifie Ta. I hope you will not deny him to be learned Pa. I will deny him nothing that was his due his learning was fit to concurre with that authority the Pope had giuen him that was to stirre vp the people to treason and rebellion for anie other litterature if ought were in him it might haue beene begged for a concealment for he neuer shewed it Ta. Why doe you slander the dead he shewed himselfe to be a great scholler at the very houre of his death Pa. Good sir Tady doe me the fauour to tell me wherein Ta. Being ready to mount vp the ladder when he was preased by some standers by to speake did he not itterate and reitterate Sine me quaso Sine me quaso so distinct and plainely that euery latinist might well vnderstand him this was a signe he was learned and that he could speake Latine Pa. And here we see the end of this great learned Bishop that had liue in conspiracie for many yeares against his prince and being condemned to the gallowes for his treason as hee was wel worthy had nothing to say in his owne excuse but Sine me quaso Ta. What woulde you haue him to say in such a case but to giue himselfe to prayer and contemplation Pa. But what bragges be these that are made of his witte and learning that had liued like a rauening Woolfe and dyed like a dumbe dogge Ta. If there were no better worth in him then your words do import how came it to passe that the multitude of people both men and women that did follow him to the place of execution made such doll and lamentation after him as the heauens them selues resounded the Eccho of their outcries Pa. Before I answere your demand I holde it best to make a true relation of the maners and behauiours of the people that so followed him to the place of execution strange and foolish I confesse to bee rehearsed but because you haue vrged it thus it followeth The 28. day of Ianuary now last past the Bishop with his cōpanion the priest being brought to an araignment at the Kings bench barre at Dublyne were there condemned of treason and adiudged to be executed the next saturday following which was the first of February being Candlemas eue which day being come in the morning something timely by a Catholicke consent a priest or two of the Popes broode were sent with holy water and other like holy stuffe to sanctifie and hallow the gallowes where they should
truth Ta. You will hardly beleeue that Christ himselfe made the likenesse of his owne face and sent it to king Abaragus Pa. I could sooner beleeue hee sent it to the Queene rather then to the king himselfe Ta. And why more to the Queene then to the king himselfe Pa. Perhaps he might send it to the Queene for a loue token Ta. Patricke where haue you learned to speake of these nippinge iestes that you haue in such a readynes Pa. Sir Tady where haue you learned to shake of these shameles lyes which you haue in such abundance Ta. I tell ye it is testified for certayne that hee sent it to king Abaragus himselfe Pa. I tell ye I cannot beleeue any of these obscure fooleryes Ta. You will say it is but a fable that the Image of our Lady was drawne by Saint Luke Pa. But do you find this to be set downe for a wrytten verity Ta. What else it is testified and confidently deliuered by Simion Metaphrastes an auncient wryter Pa. Doth not your auncyent author make mention who it was that made our Ladyes Coach Ta. As though our Lady that bare Christ did euer ride in a Coache Pa. Why not ryde in a Coach aswell as haue her Picture drawne where it is common amongst Ladyes in this age and me thinkes Simion Metaphrastes should aswel haue made mention of the one as he did of the other Ta. I see you are too full of scoffes and I could wish you to leaue them Pa. I do but tosse you backe your owne balles such as you your selfe first serued to the house and myne answers I am sure are not so ridiculous as the matters you appose Ta. I appose you with nothing but what hath beene testified by the fathers of the church whose wrytinges although many of them be perished yet being left vnto vs by tradition they must be beleeu●d Pa. And vnder the names and tytles of these Catholik fathers no small store of monkishe Impietyes haue bine forged but the wisdome of God hath so prouided for his church that they are well enough discouered Ta. I perceiue you are very vehement against the worshipping of Images what say you then to the Inuocation of the holy Saints themselues may we call vppon them in the time of necessitye Pa. Come vnto me sayth our sauiour all you that are laden and I will ease you if he himselfe hath so louingly called vs if we refuse him and seeke toanother it is of some distrust that wee haue of him and what is that but to make God a lyer and not to think him true in the promise he hath made vnto vs. Ta. Well I perceiue there will nothing disgest with you but Scriptures looke into the 5. of Iob how like you of those words call now if any will answer thee and turne thee to some of the Saints Pa. The wordes of Elyphaze one of Iobs friends who speaketh not of the Saints departed but wisheth Iob to consider whither any of the godly then liuing did so rage and murmure against God as he did Ta. But that God will accept of other mens prayers for vs looke into the 4 2 of Iob when his wrath being kindled against Elyphaze and his friends hee would not heare themselues but accepted Iobs prayers for them Pa. Elyphaze and his two friends because they contemned Iob and preferred their owne ryghteousnes God therefore to pull downe their pride and to giue a testimony of Iobs Innocency faith and patience sendeth Elyphaze and his felowes to Iob promising to accept his prayers for them but papystes are neare driven when they must fetch confirmation out of the old testament for the Inuocation of Saints when their owne Iesuites doe confesse that before Christs ascention praying to Saints were not in vse especially of those that were dead and deseased which by the opinion of the papistes were in Limbo till Christs ascention Ta. The fathers of the old testament did often alledge and appose against godes wrath the names and merytes of the holy Patryarches remember thy seruant Abraham Isack and Iacob for thy seruante Dauides sake refuse not thine annoynted and why may we not then stand vpon Saints merites Pa. But these Inuocations thus made doe not depend vpon the merytes of those holy Patryarches but vppon the couenant and promise which God had made vnto them and to their posterity so sayth Moses remember Abraham Isack and Iacob thy seruantes to whom thou hast sworne by thine owne selfe that thou wilt multiply their seede and such other places there be sundry in the old testament Ta. It should stand with reason and common sence that like as we are first brought into the presence of earthly kinges by fauourites and such as are in grace and lykinge about him euen so doe Saints by their holy prayers bring vs to the presence and fauour of the kinge of heauen Pa. Call vppon me in the day of trouble saith God by his Prophet and I will heare thee if any man sinne saith Saint Iohn we haue an aduocate with the father Iesus Christ No man cometh to the father but by the sonne and whatsoeuer we shall aske in Christes name we shall obtayne the same vndoubtedly These and many otherlike places we haue in the Scriptures that sende vs to Christ now if you can shew vs but one text that doth commaund vs to pray vnto Saintes it shall suffice I will neuer contend further Ta. If we haue no text of Scripture that doth command it yet being as it is approued by the Romish Church is asmuch as we care for Pa. Your Romish church indeede doth avouch what she● list without care without cause without shame or without sence Ta. That the Saintes are not onely medyators and intercessors for vs that they haue sometimes a hand in our redemptyon doth playnely appeare by this prayer that the church of Rome readeth publyquely vppon Saint Thomas Beckets day that was sometynes Bishope of Canturbury which followeth in these wordes Dens pro ouius Eclesia c. O God for whose Church the glorious Bishop Thomas was put to death by the swordes of the wicked grant we beseech thee that all that desire his helpe may atteyne the effect of their petition to saluation By this it doth appeare how that gloryous Bishop Thomas did shed his bloud for the church of God And that the mistery might the more playnely appeare marke yet agayne this second prayer conteined in these wordes Tu per Tho sanguinem c. Thou O Chryst cause vs to come thither where Thomas is euen for the bloud which he shed for thy sake By this it apeareth that this holy Martyr is not only a medyatour but a redeemer for here we make intercessiō vnto Christ that by the bloud which Thomas shed wee may come where Thomas is the wordes are playne Pa. And that is to the infernal pit of Hell O doctryne of diueles that doth teach the silly people to flie from the blod