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A19855 A detection of that sinnful, shamful, lying, and ridiculous discours, of Samuel Harshnet. entituled: A discouerie of the fravvdulent practises of Iohn Darrell wherein is manifestly and apparantly shewed in the eyes of the world. not only the vnlikelihoode, but the flate impossibilitie of the pretended counterfayting of William Somers, Thomas Darling, Kath. Wright, and Mary Couper, togeather with the other 7. in Lancashire, and the supposed teaching of them by the saide Iohn Darrell. Darrel, John, b. ca. 1562. 1600 (1600) STC 6283; ESTC S109292 232,635 230

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that is contained in the Discouery which seemeth to make more or selfe against the cause or my selfe least passing by some of this kind it might be thought I therfore did it and purposly because I were not able to answere Againe I cōsidered that many haue already giuen an eare to counterfeitinge and verily beleiue our Demomakes to be counterfeits for their sakes therfore that I might draw these preiudicate persons from their error to the imbracinge of the truth it was requisite to answere all that in the face made for counterfeitinge which could not be performed in fewe wordes Secondly I knewe the credit of the aduersarie was great my owne little beinge a base contemptible person in the eyes of the world That my selfe then and that which I contend for might be beleiued even of this dotinge and blind generation It was necessarie I should not onely cracke or diminish the credite of the a duersarie even with his best frendes which might haue bene done in afew wordes but take all credit from him by detectinge all his filthines for in makinge his name to rotte and stinke and the counterfeit cause he hath in hand their is hope that men will giue some eare vnto me and that I striue for be I neuer so meane Now this would be best performed in the larger pursuite and stirringe deepely in the falshods lyes and absurdities of the Discouerer which coulde not be donne without the multiplyinge of wordes For the more one stirreth in that which is stinkinge and filthy the more stinking sauor it sendeth forth And so shall we find it to be in the ample ripping vp of this foule Discouery to the Detection wherof we will now proceed God assistinge vs. If the falshood of some be detected and thou find out the truth by this our Detection then open thy mouth in the defence of that truth and assist me with thy prayers Thine in the Lord Iohn Darrell As in all ages there haue bene some which haue gainsaid the holy doctrins of god reuealed in his word so likewise there haue not wanted such as haue resisted the works which he hath wrought befor the children of men Exod. 7. 11. Against the wonderfull works wrought in Egipt by Moses did those sor●erers Iannes and Iambres rise vp and set themselues with all their diuelish arte and power VVhen the holy ghoste fell vpon the Apostles in the forme of clouen tongues like fire euen of those which were eye eare witnesses thereof there were some that mocked them act 2. 13. saying that they were full of newe wyne The Apostle Paule hauing cast the diuell out of the Pythonisse her maisters were offended therewith caught him Sylas his associate and drew them before the maiestrates who vpon theire incensinge commaunded them to prison act 16. 18. and to be beaten with rods wherevpon they were beaten fore cast into an inward prison or dungeon and theire feete made fast in the stockes VVhen there was brought to Christ Iesus one possessed with a diuel blind and dumbe and that he had healed him so that hee which was blind and dumb math 12. 24. both spake and sawe all the people it is said were amased and said is not this that sonne of Dauid And vpon the same worke wrought vpon an other at an other time the multitud marueiled saying The like was neuer seene in Israel But the Pharises resisted as other workes of his math 9. 23. so both these and said he casteth out diuels through Beclzebub the prince of diuels In a word the mockinges and scourgings the banishments the bonds and imprisonments the puttinge to death of Christ Iesus the Prophets and his Apostles doe testify how the word and workes of god haue bene from time to time resisted Euen so it is now God hauing wrought diuers rare and greate workes there haue bene some found to withstand them and to bear the world in hand that all is but connterfeyting and notorious cofenage Among these the chief are D. Ban●xoft B. of London and Samuell Harsnet his chaplaine and Examiners whose labour day and night it hath bene for the space almost of two yeares and in that time haue they applyed and abused theire wit and authority to perswade this to the world and to this end haue they published a booke called a Discourie 2. tim 3. 8. But as Paule saith of Iannes and Iamhres that withstood Moses and of certaine men in his time of corrupt mindes repr●bat concerning the faith which did then resist the truth euen so the same say I o● these men They shall preuaile no longer for their madnes shall be euident vnto all men as theirs also was Herevnto serueth as the former treatise wherein the truth is declared and these workes published and made knowne to the world for the declaration of the truth is a conviction of the falshood so the treatise following wherein the DISCOVERY is fully I trust answered and the euill name raysed vp and giuen out againste thease workes viz. of counterfeyting and my teaching the some or twoe parts of that booke taken away And when the sord shall yet further pursue the manifestation of these workes disclosing that which is now couered and making that knowne which now is hyd which I doubt not but in due time he will psal 10. 14. mark 4. 22. 1. tim 5. 24. verse 25. Then will their filthines and madnes be euident indede And for our further assurance ●crein we may remember it is written Thou Lorde behouldest mischeif and wrong that thou maist take it into thine handes And againe There is nothing hyd that shal not be op●ned neyther is there a secret but that it shall come to light And againe to this purpose it is said by the Apostle Some mens sinnes are open before hand and goe before vnto iudgment but some mens followe after Likewise also the good workes are manifest before hand they that are otherwise cannot be hyd wherby it is playne that howsoener the sinnes of some men are for a time in this world vnknowne as hauinge bene committed in secret and in the darknesse yet the Lorde in his time will bring them to light and manifest them to the world and on the other side though the good workes of some be not for a time through the slaunders of some manifest and knowne to the world to be such yet it shall not alwaies be soe they shall not alwayes be hyd but in an other time god will reueale them to be that indede they are It is in the second place to be obserued that as sathan hath euer vsed by his instruments to resist the doctrines workes of god that thereby he might kepe god from his glory and prayse and man from beleuing and profiting by them so the principall meanes wherby he hath preuayled in all times hath bene the slaundering of those whom the Lord hath therein vsed as instruments for