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A05099	The second part of the French academie VVherein, as it were by a naturall historie of the bodie and soule of man, the creation, matter, composition, forme, nature, profite and vse of all the partes of the frame of man are handled, with the naturall causes of all affections, vertues and vices, and chiefly the nature, powers, workes and immortalitie of the soule. By Peter de la Primaudaye Esquier, Lord of the same place and of Barre. And translated out of the second edition, which was reuiewed and augmented by the author.; Academie françoise. Part 2. English	La Primaudaye, Pierre de, b. ca. 1545.; Bowes, Thomas, fl. 1586.	1594 (1594)	STC 15238; ESTC S108297	614,127	592

resist As indeed that perswasion which proceedeth frō speech draweth the willes and affections of men with a sweet and pleasant kind of violence which they follow with great desire and cannot gaine say it Now this arte and office belongeth properly to the tongue of which we are now to speake The tongue then is a fleshy muscly member but soft and like to the substance of a tad-stoole being full of sinewes arteries veines For it had need haue good store of sinewes both because of those sundry motions which it hath necessarily as also for the sense of taste and of touching which agree to the nature thereof Likewise it had need of many arteries that so it might haue great abundance of spirite and heate by reason of the diuersitie of motions which it hath And to the end it should not want nourishment it hath in like maner great plentie of veines and that it should not drie vp through continual mouing it hath humidity to wet and moysten it Whereupon we ought to note well the prouidence of God in this that although spittle be but an excrement and superfluitie which partly distilleth from the braine into the throate and partly is sent vp thither from the boyling stomacke yet it is not vnprofitable because it wetteth and moysteneth the tongue For being very drye it is more slowe in mouing as wee see by experience in them that are subiect to great drought Therefore God hath prouided a remedie for that inconuenience by meanes of two fleshie kernels like to sponges on eache side one at the roote of the tongue which are commonly called Almonds because they are fashioned like vnto them these through passages ordayened for that purpose moysten all partes of the mouth Moreouer the tongue is tyed to a forked bone with many muscles by two branches which holde it vp as it were two neere pillars and that with such a counterpoyse that it can moue and remoue it selfe equally on eche side For if it were tyed by one branch only it could not keepe it selfe vpright but should go crossewise only from one side But God hath prouided very wel for that and if wee did knowe and consider it well we are admonished thereby that speach pronounced by our tongue ought first to be wel weighed as it were in a ballance to the ende it decline not or turne on any side more then it ought out hold it selfe vpright and directly followe reason Moreouer it can not easily be declared by what Arte the tongue stretcheth foorth it selfe so diuersly by the meanes of muscles and how it hath so many sortes of motions from all sides so ready and so sodaine and for so many things as it hath both to speake and to doe But it is farre more difficult yea impossible to tell the causes howe a man can by the tongue frame so many sortes of wordes and so diuers which are as it were the markes and paintings not onely of all visible thinges but also of all things inuisible and of all the thoughts of man For if wee woulde intreate of any matter one with another we knowe already by that which hath beene spoken howe it can hardly be done without speach as also that we cannot speake without certaine wordes and names to name and signifie those things by whereof wee minde to speake For if wee haue no wordes and names to make them knowen by we must alwayes haue the things themselues present that wee may point at them with the finger which is impossible And although it were so that wee had them alwayes before our eyes yet that were not sufficient For wee should be forced to speake to the eyes by signes and yet wee coulde neuer without comparison inuent so many signes nor counterfait and imagine so many thinges with all the senses and members of our body as the tongue alone woulde affoorde vs by meanes of speach For it giueth a name to euery thing Therefore it is able to make the natures of things knowen and to set before vs as well things absent as present inuisible as visible spirituall as corporall In a worde God hath giuen this benefite to man by meanes of the tongue and the eares that they can represent one to another and cause each other to knowe and vnderstand as well diuine things as humane And although God made this diuersity and confusion of languages amongst men to punish them for their arrogancie and ingratitude neuerthelesse hee hath so prouided for this euill that hee hath manifested the more his great goodnesse towardes them and the riches of his eternall prouidence by that knowledge of so many sundry tongues which hee hath giuen them and chiefely that by them his Gospell might be published And if this benefite of God be worthy of great admiration ought wee not also to maruaile much at this that such a varietie of sounds proceeding out of the mouth of man can be comprehended in so small a number of letters whereby so many sortes of wordes and such diuerse languages are expressed By this meanes also wee see that speach which can not bee perceiued by any of the senses but by the eares is made as it were visible so that by the helpe of Letters a man may speake to the eyes and not see them as hee may also to the eares by meanes of the voyce And although voyce and speach flie into the ayre as if they had winges insomuch that a man can neyther beholde them with his eyes nor smell them with his nose nor holde them with his handes neuerthelesse speach is kept still before the eyes and may be called backe when a man will by meanes of writing and by the benefite of letters Yea it may be sent to them that are absent and as farre as one will that they may vnderstand it euen to them also that are not yet borne For wee see how our predecessours teach vs after their death by their bookes and writings and howe by this meanes their wordes are not onely visible vnto vs but also as it were immortall Wherefore the lesse we can conceiue howe this may bee done by the tongue and by letters the more ought wee to wonder at this great worke of God in man praise him for it and giue him thankes Nowe albeit the eye of our vnderstanding dazell and can not wholy comprehend this worke of God neuerthlesse we see this well enough that the tongue doeth so helpe to frame the voyce into speach and to make the diuersitie of wordes whereof speach is compounded as the hand and fingers of the Organ-player who toucheth the Organs and of the Musicion that playeth vpon an instrument of musicke whatsoeuer it be serueth to cause the sound thereof to be heard For although when one bloweth the Organs the pipes thereof will yeelde diuers sounds and tunes if they be open according as they are either great or small long or short wide or narrowe as

woman is of short continuance and full of trouble He shooteth forth as a flowre and is cut downe he vanisheth also as a shadow and continueth not Nowe it is certaine that if we looke to the causes of the life death of men layd downe by vs we shal thinke that all this is done naturally that there is a certaine order of nature vnto which we must all be subiect and a naturall necessitie which none can eschew But wee see that Moses mounteth aloft and searcheth higher for the cause for hee seekth it in God and in his determination yea in his wrath conceiued against our sinnes Therefore the children and seruants of God that haue bene instructed in his worde doe not onely consider of that in death which prophane men beholde there but they mount vp euen to this highest cause and behold there the wrath of God against sinne against all mankinde for the same So that wee may knowe by that whith hath bene sayd what difference there is betweene humane and naturall Philosophie and that which is diuine and supernaturall and wherein they deceiue themselues that stay altogether in naturall Philosphie And hereby also wee may learne the cause why so many become Atheists and Epicures thereby whereas it should serue them in place of steps and degrees to cause them to ascend vp to that Philosophie that is supernaturall and heauenly For their noses are altogether poring in this base kitchin of which we haue intreated in our former discourses as though God had not created men for another life and end then hee hath done beasts Whereupon we may imagine what true ioye and consolation they can haue I say not only in death but also throughout their whole life seeing their life wil they nill they must passe through so many dangers and miseries For whether they will or no they must be subiect to this sentence passed from God against all mankinde in the person of our first parents when hee sayd to Adam Cursed is the earth for thy sake in sorow shalt thou eate of it all the daies of thy life Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee and thou shalt eate the herbe of the fielde In the sweate of thy face shalt thou eate bread till thou returne to the earth for out of it wast thou taken because thou art dust to dust shalt thou returne Therefore Eliphaz sayth in the booke of Iob that miserie proceedeth not out of the dust that affliction buddeth not out of the earth Which is asmuch to say as that the cause of barrennes of ground proceedeth not from the earth but from the sinne of man Wherefore men cannot lay the blame vpon any other beside themselues as being the cause of all the euils which they suffer because they beare the matter of them in themselues Now if any thinke that this sentence pronounced by God against all mankinde is not so much executed vpon the wicked that are without God as vpon others because wee see commonly that they are richest liue in greatest ease in pleasures in delightes we must know that they are not therefore exempted from those miseries whereunto the life of man is subiect and which are all comprehended vnder this sweate of the face mentioned in the holy Scriptures For there is not one of them to be found that can so saue himselfe but that he hath alwayes his part portion in these things And if we could consider wel the whole course of their life who seeme to be the happiest amongst them and had the patience to waite vntill the end of their race we should still finde by experience the trueth of that we speake of But let vs goe on with our speeches touching the causes of the length and shortnes of this bodily life and of naturall death as also of that which is violent whereof wee haue not yet spoken Also let vs consider of the things that are chiefly required for the vpholding of this bodily life and without which it could not consist This then shall be the matter subiect of which thou ARAM shalt take vpon thee to discourse Of the causes generally of the length and shortnes of bodily life of naturall and of violent death in what manner the life of man consisteth in his breath of the principall things required to life and without which it cannot be of the difference betwixt the life of men the life of beasts of the image of the spirituall death in the corporall of the true comfort which we ought to haue therein Chap. 75. ARAM. This lawe was layde vpon nature by GOD the Creator thereof that the things which it should bring forth in this inferiour world should haue small beginnings at the first and after growe by litle and litle when they were come to their full greatnes should stand a while at a stay and then fall by litle and litle and returne to their originall and first beginning as we see a patterne hereof and an example twise a day in the Ocean sea For after it is mounted vp to the highest and hath spread it selfe in length and breadth as much as it may it returneth againe vnto the fountaine and wombe from whence it came and there closeth vp it selfe For God hath compassed it with certaine bounds beyond which it cannot passe So likewise euery thing hath his course and set time of continuance neither doe we see any thing vnder the Moone either of the workes of God or of the inuentions of men which keepeth not this course And so is it with the body which being created by litle and litle decayeth after the same maner as it were by the same degrees by which it mounted vpward And that which we see in euery particular body the same we perceiue to be in the whole frame and course of the world in all the estates thereof For the world hath had his infancie next his youth then his mans estate and now he is in his olde-age For we see howe all things decline dayly and continually waxe worse and worse as it were approching to their end In like maner if we would consider the course and estate of all Common-wealths Principalities Kingdomes and Empires and of all the greatest and chiefest Monarchies that euer were from the creation of the world we should finde that all of them were very small and weake in their beginnings and that afterwards they increased and mounted vp vntill they came to their highest degrees and after they had attained thither they descended fell by litle and litle continually vntill in the ende they were wholy ruinated Nowe the first causes of all these things proceeding from God and from his eternall counsell we know that the second causes are in the nature of euery thing that hath beginning and must end and chiefly in the nature of mens bodies By our formmer speech wee haue learned already howe

enioy whatsoeuer GOD hath prepared for it euen that which is most agreeable and proper to the nature thereof Wherefore wee may say that the death of man is a separation or a departure of the soule from the body wherein GOD propoundeth vnto vs a perfect image of our separation and departure from him which commeth by the meanes of sinne For wee see what becommeth of the body when the soule is gone from it and what it is during the time that it is ioyned therewith The difference is very great Let vs then propound our soule as if it were in the place of the bodie and imagine that God were insteade of the soule in it as wee fee the soule is in the body Then let vs consider what might be the estate of the soule both when it is ioyned with GOD and when it is separated from him For there is greater difference betweene the soule separated from GOD then betweene a body separated from his soule Forasmuch as there is no bodie so stincking nor so infected when it is separated from the soule as the soule is when it is separated from GOD if wee will compare spirituall things with corporall things And contrariwise wee may iudge of the estate thereof when it is ioyned with God by the estate of a body ioyned with his soule and by that difference which is betweene a dead body and a quicke Nowe if wee woulde well consider these things and compare the corporall death of the bodie with the spirituall death of the soule wee woulde abhorre sinne in greater measure then wee doe and bee more afraid of it then of anie thing that may come vnto vs. For there is nothing either in heauen or earth that can hurt vs but sinne as in deede nothing can bring dammage to vs but that which can hurt the soule But it is sinne onely that is able to hurt the soule because by it those meanes are taken away from the soule whereby GOD bestoweth spirituall life vpon it Therefore wee ought not to thinke that bodily death can anie way hurt the soule vnlesse it be in regarde of the euill life past It is true that seeing GOD hath created man to bee of such a nature as to be compounded of a bodie and of a soule and that his true and perfect estate consisteth heerein that they shoulde liue vnited and ioyned together it is very like that there is some euil in the seuering of thē asunder especially if any of them corrupt and perish and the euill may seeme to be doubled if both of them should corrupt perish as many epicures and atheists would haue it For if it be euill to haue but halfe a beeing the euill and imperfection is much more not to be at all seeing there is nothing more goodly or more excellent then to haue a beeing And if it be an excellent thing to bee then to bee well is a farre more goodly and excellent thing For therein consisteth the perfection and absolute felicitie of man Nowe there is no sound or perfect estate of anie man but onely that in which and for which GOD created him And although man bee fallen from that estate yet it hath pleased GOD not onely to restore him againe thereunto by his Sonne Iesus Christ but also to make it vnto him more entire and more perfect yea much more sure and stedfast then it was in the beginning For this cause if besides the benefite of creation wee consider also that of regeneration and of the restauration and repairing of man wee shall finde therein ample matter of true and sound consolation against death For wee knowe that this tabernacle of our body which is infirme faulty corruptible fraile and tending to putrifaction shall bee destroyed and as it were pulled downe to the ende that afterwardes it may bee restored vnto a perfect firme incorruptible and celestiall glorie Wee see that by death wee are called backe againe from a miserable exile to the ende that wee may dwell in our countrie euen in our heauenly countrie In a worde wee are assured by death to enioy such a blessed and permanent estate as the like whereof appeareth no where vpon the earth And if the brute beastes euen the insensible creatures as Saint Paul teacheth vs as wood and stone hauing some sence of their vanitie and corruption doe waite for the day of iudgement that they may bee deliuered from the same shall not wee bee very miserable hauing both some light of nature and also boasting that wee are inspired with the spirite of GOD if wee doe not lift vp our eyes aboue this earthly corruption when the question is concerning our beeing Shall wee not contemne and disdaine the vanitie of the worlde to aspire after the good beeing of the immortalitie to come Let vs knowe then that wee can not finde any true and sound consolation without this consideration and hope which is most assured to them that beleeue in Christ Iesus Therefore they that went not beyond the boundes of naturall Philosophie coulde neuer enioy anie true consolation either against the miseries of mans life or against corporall death And although they beleeued that together with the body whatsoeuer is in man was extinguished or otherwise that after the death of the body the soule remained immortall yet notwithstanding some haue done nothing else but mourne and complaine in this life insomuch as they haue laid violent handes as it were vpon Nature reuiling her and calling her the stepmother rather then the mother of mankind others haue doubted of their future estate and condition not being able to learne and knowe whether their soules should liue either in ioy and rest or els in paine torment but only by opinion Of which if we would discourse at large and consider particularly of their reasons we should be confirmed more and more in that true consolation that ought to bee in the heart of euery Christian against the honour of death Therefore I greatly desire ACHITOB to heare thee discoursing vpon this matter Of the chiefe consolations which the wisest amongst the Pagans and Infidels coulde drawe from their humane reason and naturall Philosophie against death of the blasphemies vsed by Atheists and Epicures against God and Nature what Nature is and who they bee that attribute vnto it that which they ought to attribute vnto God Chap. 76. ACHITOB. Trees haue their seasons in which they beginne to budde and afterwards do blossome which blossome in conuenient time taketh the forme and fashion of the fruite and after that it continueth growing vntill it becommeth ripe and beeing come to the greatest maturitie and ripenesse that it can haue it falleth down of it selfe and still consumeth more and more The same may bee saide of leaues But this happeneth not to all nor yet altogether after the self same maner to all those vnto whō it doth happen For some fruits perish euen in the very bud or els

the graue hee sheweth after very euidently what he vnderstandeth by his soule when he saieth Thou hast reuiued me from them that goe downe into the pit Hee taketh this worde Soule in the same sense when he saieth that God deliuered his soule from death and from the midst of lions and when he prayeth him to deliuer his soule from the sword his desolate soule from the power of the dogge For it is easie to iudge by these wordes that he taketh not the soule in these places for the essence of the soule and proper substance thereof because the soule can not be smitten with the sword nor deuoured of lions nor carried away by dogges Therefore seeing the soule is so often put in the Scripture for corporall life which endeth with the body and which the soule giueth vnto it by meanes of those instruments which it hath in the body the name of Spirite is many times vsed therein to signifie more specially this essence and spirituall substance which wee call the soule and which may be separated both from the body and blood as that which liueth after the death of the body Therefore Dauid did so vse the word Spirite when he recommended his soule to God by the same wordes which Iesus Christ vsed vpon the crosse Afterward Saint Steuen tooke it in the same sense when he saide Lorde Iesus receiue my spirite For this is that spirite of which Salomon saieth that it returneth to God that gaue it after that the body is returned to the earth and to dust of which it consisteth And yet this difference is not alwayes obserued in the Scriptures For as wee haue already heard both the heart and soule and spirite are oftentimes generally and indifferently put for all the partes and powers of the soule and not onely for those of men but also of beastes as when the Wise man attributeth spirit vnto them hauing regard to this corporall life For when Salomon speaketh so it is in consideration of this life that consisteth in breath which is also called Spirit in the holy Scriptures which vse one the same word to signifie both wind and breathing and whatsoeuer we call spirit taking it both for the soule of man for the Angelicall natures and for the Diuine nature Therefore Iob speaking of this present life sayth So long as my breath is in me and the spirit of God in my nosethrilles my lippes surely shall speake no wickednesse and my tongue shall vtter no deceit But when Saint Paul saieth The same spirite beareth witnesse with our spirite that wee are the children of God hee taketh the worde Spirite in an other sence then Iob did in the place nowe alleadged For in the first place hee taketh the name of Spirite for the Spirite of GOD and in the second place for the Spirite of man which signifieth the humane soule It is true that in this place hee taketh it for the soule and for the spirit such as it is in regenerate men but when hee saieth elsewhere that the spirite of man knoweth the things of man hee taketh the spirite simply for a humane Spirite and for the vnderstanding part thereof Likewise the name of soule is put not onely for this naturall life and for the will and affections but also for the selfe same thing that is comprehended by this worde Spirite when one woulde signifie thereby the greatest excellencie of the soule As when Dauid sayeth Our soule waiteth for the Lord for hee is our helpe and our shield Surely our heart shall reioyce in him because wee trusted in his holie name And againe My soule reioyceth in the Lorde and is glad in his saluation And when Saint Peter sayeth Abstaine from fleshly lustes which fight against the soule and haue your conuersation honest among the Gentiles hee taketh the name of Soule for the spirituall man who hath his minde and all his affections well ruled according to the will of GOD. As then wee haue heard in what sort the soule may die in regarde of this corporall life according to the phrase of the Scriptures and of the Hebrewes so by this which Saint Peter saieth that fleshly lustes fight against the soule wee may learne after what manner the soule may be said to die and to be slaine For nothing can bring death vnto it but sinne Wherefore it is not said without good reason in the Booke of Wisedome that the mouth that telleth lies slayeth the soule Albeit then the soule is immortall in that it can neuer be without life no more then the Angelles who are spirites like to it neuerthelesse it is after a sort mortall so farre forth as being farre off separated from God through sinne it liueth no more that blessed life wherewith it shoulde liue if it were vnited and ioyned vnto him by true faith and sincere obedience For it shoulde enioy the selfe same life which the heauenly Angelles with the soules and spirites of the blessed doe enioy As contrariwise the soules of the wicked liue with the same life that the Diuelles doe which is called dead because it is a more accursed life then death it selfe and therefore called the second and eternall death Nowe wee may thinke our selues sufficiently taught touching the diuerse significations in which the name of Soule is taken It seemeth to mee that wee haue spoken enough of the Anatomy of the bodie and soule of which the most of our discourses hitherto were made which may suffice for the contentation of euery one that will keepe himselfe within the bounds and limits set downe vnto vs by the wisedome of GOD in his word But to finish this whole matter concerning the soule which we haue chiefly considered in her parts powers and effects we are further yet to be instructed in the creation generation nature and immortalitie thereof And because they are marueilous difficult matters and such as are not without great contrarieties of opinions euen amongest the learned I am of opinion that these things are to be discoursed of according to that manner of teaching of the ancient Academickes which wee followed in our first meeting namely vpon the theame propounded vnto vs to ballance the arguments on the one part with the reasons of the other side that so we may diligently search out the trueth Notwithstanding it shal be lawfull for vs to deliuer our opinion so long as wee ground it vpon the infallible testimonie of the worde of God leauing to euery one his libertie to iudge which is best and to embrace and follow the same For our entrance therefore into so goodly a matter thou shalt beginne ASER to morrowe to declare vnto vs what thou shalt thinke good concerning this proposition namely whether the soule is begotten with the body and of the seede thereof or whether it be created apart and of another substance and what is requisit for vs to know therein The end of the

mother yet shee should be a very cruel mother if she had giuen longer life to beasts then to men had not reserued a better a longer for them But this reason would not greatly moue Pliny who is the man himselfe that gaue these goodly titles to nature vnder which name he blasphemed God whom he knew not Neuertheles this argument wil be of force with them that waigh it aright considering the prouidence and goodnesse of God towards mankinde He addeth further that this fantasticall opinion is entred into mens braines because they woulde neuer faile but be eternall But this pretended reason is so far from confirming his opiniō that contrariwise it greatly weakneth the same in that it agreeth with the argument for the immortalitie of soules that was taken from this natural desire which God hath not giuen to men in vaine as hath bin shewed vnto vs by good reasons Moreouer he iudgeth it great follie to keepe bodies in hope that they shall liue and rise againe according to the vaine promise of the Philosopher Democritus who did not rise againe himselfe But I maruel not if Pliny spake so of the resurrection of bodies seeing he held that opinion of the mortalitie of soules seeing those Philosphers who maintained the immortalitie of soules did not so much as once dreame of the resurrection of bodies except this Democritus only at whom I much more woonder then at all this which Pliny writeth of the mortalitie of soules For it seemeth that Democritus could not learn this of reason and of natural philosophy vnles it were so that he builded his doctrine vpon the same foundation that he took from his Motes cōcerning the matter of which all things are made For according to this opinion hee taught that all the essences that euer were shoulde in time haue their beeing againe by the meeting together of those matters of which they had beene compounded Surely a very fond opinion for a Philosopher so that Pliny may well derde it although the argument hee maketh against him is not strong enough to ouerthrowe his imagination For hee woulde haue had Democritus to haue confirmed his opinion by his owne resurrection But his Philosophie did not insinuate so much that it shoulde haue beene done so quickely but after the reuolution of many Ages which Pliny shoulde haue stayed for before hee coulde haue euicted Democritus of his foolish opinion if hee had no better argument to ouerthrowe it Nowe if this Philosopher did not lay this ground for his opinion which I haue mentioned I woulde haue thought that hee might haue vnderstoode the same by some speech come to his eares of the doctrine of the holie Patriarkes and of the Hebrewes touching this matter by meanes of the Aegyptians amongest whome those good Fathers long dwelt because they that wrote the liues of the Philosophers put Democritus in the number of them that descended into Aegypt to learne the wisedome of that people as Pythagoras Plato Orpheus Socrates and Pherecydes with others did the same But let vs returne to Pliny and heare his other reasons such as they be He accounteth it great follie in men to thinke that by death a man may enter into a second life and thereupon breaketh foorth into an exclamation as if men were out of their wits so to thinke But he would haue found it no lesse impossible that generation shoulde come of corruption and that of seede which is but as it were a little slime a man coulde be engendered or a beast if experience had not taught the fame And because hee hath not seene a soule liue after the death of the bodie nor a dead man risen againe therefore hee concludeth that there is neither immortalitie of the soule nor resurrection of the bodie But wee may call to minde that which was vttered to this purpose when wee spake of the similitude that is betweene our first and second birth I omit that which he saieth of the rest and quietnesse taken away for euer from men that are borne if that diuision of the soule separated from the body which some Heathen Philosophers made shoulde take place namely when they so diuided it that the sence of soules remained aboue and their shadowes beneath among the dead for all this is but fopperie Neuerthelesse the argument taken from the common consent of men touching the immortalitie of soules remaineth still and is confirmed euen by Plinie himselfe in this place although peraduenture hee neuer thought it Let vs then come to the finall conclusion which hee maketh of this whole matter Hee calleth it deceit of woordes and foolish credulitie whatsoeuer men speake or beleeue of their immortalitie and accompteth it as a poison that destroyeth the chiefe good of Nature which as hee sayeth is death adding further that by this meanes death shall doubled or as some reade it the greefe of him that is to die shall be doubled when hee shall thinke vpon that which is to come For if it bee a sweete and pleasant thing to liue to whome can it bee pleasant to thinke that hee did once liue Therefore hee setteth this downe for his last resolution that it is more easie and certaine for euery one to beleeue himselfe and that whereof hee hath experience in himselfe then to trust any other and to fetch his assurance from that which a man was before hee was borne Thus wee see howe hee laboureth to perswade that no man can bee blessed in the life to come because the cheefe good thing hee can haue in nature is taken from him except hee bee wholly like to beastes in his death and except hee beleeue that there remaineth no more of him after death then there was before his conception and natiuitie And to confirme and assure himselfe in this opinion hee woulde haue euery one to fetch an argument and proofe heereof from the similitude of that estate in which hee was before hee was conceiued or borne to compare it with that which followeth his death that a man may iudge of the one by the other But what reason is in that For is there the same reason from not beeing to beeing that is from beeing to not beeing Wee knowe well howe man is come from not beeing to beeing but can wee heereby bee so assured that hee shall bee no more after hee hath beene as we knowe hee hath beene after a time wherein he was not And whereas hee woulde haue vs giue more credite to our owne experience in our death then to all that can bee saide by others I woulde demaund of him what that is of which wee haue experience and whether wee ought to conclude that wee die wholly as beastes doe because to the sence of man wee see no difference betwixt their deaths and the death of man It seemeth this is his meaning But as they of his coate aske who euercame from the dead to testifie that soules are immortall so we may aske of him