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A09918 An euident display of Popish practises, or patched Pelagianisme Wherein is mightelie cleared the soueraigne truth of Gods eternall predestination, the stayd groundworke of oure most assured safetie by Christ. Written in Latin by that reuerend father, mayster Theodore Beza, and now lately Englished by VV.H. preacher of the Gospell. Bèze, Théodore de, 1519-1605.; Hopkinson, William. 1578 (1578) STC 2018.5; ESTC S113313 179,020 284

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they cannot passe the breadth of a line except he will and commaundeth The strength of I straell will not deceiue saith Samuell nor will be remoued with repentaunce séeing he is not a man that hée can repent And Paule saith it is not possible that the word of God should fall away But it must néedes fall awaye in some parte if any thing yea euen the leaste be done beside his wil yea euē of those which he doth not simply allow But what doe I bring these witnesses for Balaam himselfe that hireling Prophet doth reproue thée GOD is no man that he shoulde lye saith he nor the Sonne of man that he shoulde repent Doth he say and not do or speak and not make good yea euen Sathan himselfe that lying and vncleane spirite doth reproue thée in whom when there wanteth not a thousand waies to do mischief and is so great wickednesse as we cānot possibly thinke yet he is so straightly bridled that he cannot euen hisse againe excepte the Lord with his voice excite him and is so straightlye fettered that he cannot moue so muche as his finger but by the Lordes assignement He euen hée I saye doeth confute thée and albeit againste his will yet he confesseth againste the testimonie of his owne conscience that thou arte enforced of him that thou mightest breake out into these blasphemies For he acknowlegeth that excepte power bée obtayned of the Lord he cannot hurt any be it neuer so little and then when it is granted him of the Lorde to hurte for the Lorde giueth hym this power of his owne good will either that he may punish the wicked or allure recall trie and correct his own as we haue shewed before so ofte he féeleth himselfe constrained to remaine within the determined boundes as appeareth by the storie of Iob Achab and other testimonies Therefore that I maye at the last come to the verye place of Zacharie that the enimies of the Iewes did more grieunously afflict them than the wrath of Gods displeasure coulde beare yet they coulde not passe the decrée of God no not the breadth of a naile For Gods decrée dependeth further than his displeasure And it is shewed in these wordes of the Prophet that there is no cause why the people shoulde measure the wrath of God by the multitude of calamities which they suffered For that the Lorde sent them a greate parte thereof not as being angry he woulde destroy them but contrarily as thoughe a louing father shoulde correct them that they might retourne themselues to good life The Lorde therefore after his maner as it were some moste louing father maffling with his children testifieth that he is angrye with their frowardnesse and crueltie to whom he hadde giuen his children to be corrected but not destroyed that is that the Executioners dealte more cruellye with them than his displeasure could beare But all these are no otherwise to be expoūded by 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 humane affectiō than when we reade that God hath bin angry or repented of which matter we will speake anone For whereas thou triflest elsewhere that many things are done against the determination of God as if the issue of Gods counsel depended of a condition adiected and that indéede such as is sette in oure power all this the Churche of Basill oute of the worde of God hath worthily cursed long agoe for sacrilegious blasphemie And the rather bycause we are entred into this speech I thinke good to annexe thy words out of that vncleane quaternion of thine annotations vpon the Epistle of Paule to the Romanes whiche being by good right condemned of the Churche at Basill yet thy lykes haue not ceased to sperple throughout all Churches I hinke therefore good I say to recite them and refell them bycause they belong to this place Thou say est it is easie to shew that many things are done against the determination which is toyned with condition The Potter hath determined the chalke to be a vessell for the kitchin but that vessell is cleft in the fornace contrary to the determination God had determined to bring all the Israelites that he brought out of Egipt into the lande of Canaan as Moses himselfe sheweth and therfore were al baptized into Moses in the cloude but bycause they would not assaulte the Cananites againste the determination they perished in the wooddes and as the Scribes fordidde the counsell of God in themselues Luke 7. God had vowed King Ezechias to death but by prayers and godlinesse Ezechias obtained fiftéene yeres cōtrarie to the determination Sire hundreth such may be brought Doest thou acknowledge thy wordes thou monster of men than the whiche Sathan coulde not vomite anye more filthie thing against Heauen For who is our God if his counsell depende vppon vs if anye thing can come to passe as thou sayest in the same place againste his will and determination if he be changed like men if men may violate his determination if hée shame not to make frustrate to morrowe that whiche he determined to day I humbly beséeche you you noble Senatours of the moste famous Citie also you moste excellent well learned Gouernors of the Uniuersitie at Basil how long wil you sufferin your bosome this shame this filth this monstrous beast But to the matter thou deprauest shamefully filthily thrée testimonies that thou maist strengthen thy blasphemie For indéede it is true that those Israelites were not forbidden to goe into the lande of Canaan but for their owne faulte but whence doest thou vnderstande that the Lord did euer otherwise determine of them from thence bycause they were all baptised in the cloude as if indéede the Lorde hadde ordained to life all those that are borne of Abraham after the fleshe and circumcised or all those whiche are baptised in the Church of Christe And that which the Lorde sayeth to Moses ye shall not doubtlesse come into the lande for which I lifted vp my hand the is I sware the I would place you in it this I say if thou takest to make for thée thou art much deceiued by those which we wrote a little before thou maist easily be refelled For what answereth the L. to Moses praying for the peopls health I haue forgiuen this people saith he according to Yet by and by it followeth that excepte two none aboue twenty yeares olde shoulde enter into Canaan What then verily yet the LORDE sayeth he spared the people to whome he had threatned destruction nor is this to be taken of euerye person The LORDE therefore hadde sworne to the people that he woulde place them in Canaan which also he didde albeit they went not in whiche hadde rebelled and in déede hée partly punished so the Re belles as yet he shewed mercie to their posteritie and abode by his promise but partly he so shewed himselfe mercifull to these as hée iustlye punished those and neuerthelesse cleared his own faithfulnesse as is shewed in the.