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A07694	The second parte of the co[n]futacion of Tyndals answere in whyche is also confuted the chyrche that Tyndale deuyseth. And the chyrche also that frere Barns deuyseth. Made by syr Thomas More knyght.; Confutacyon of Tyndales answere. Part 2	More, Thomas, Sir, Saint, 1478-1535.	1533 (1533)	STC 18080; ESTC S104273	495,165	594

storyes lyke as mayster Lyly late mayster of Poulys scole broughte vp in London the ryght order in techynge of grammer lernynge of the latyn tong Thys is good reders the thyng that thys good scoler of Tyndale by the counsayle of hys mayster answereth But nowe good readers we must tell hym agayne that hys ensample of grammer and the laten tonge is nothyng lyke the mater of fayth that he resembleth it vnto For the laten tonge was no thynge that euer our lorde promysed to preserue for euer and therfore it myghte by chauncys occasyons of batayle and warre perysshe and be loste and the countrees compelled to leue it and r●ceyue some other language in the stede therof But as for y ● fayth can neu●r fayle no more then canne the catholyke chyrche agaynste whyche our sauyour hath hym selfe promysed that all the heretykes that rebelle agaynste it nor all the tyrauntes vppon erth that insourge and oppugne it whyche two sortes be the gates of hell shall neuer obtayne and preuayle nor in lyke wyse all the deuyls of hell that are wythin hell or walkynge in thys world and bysy aboute the gates of hell shall neuer be able to destroye the fayth which our sauyour hath in lyke wyse promysed agaynste the deuyll that went about to syfte it out of hys chyrche sholde be preserued a●d kepte by the meane of hys owne specyall prayour And therfore syth grammer in the laten tong is a thyng that may fayle the trewe fayth is a thynge by the spyrite of god accordynge to Crystes promyse perpetually taught vnto hys chyrche and therfore canne neuer fayle no not though all the bokes in the worlde sholde fayle therfore hys symylytude of grāmer lykened vnto fayth is no more lyke then an apple to an oyster Now as touchynge any such olde autentyke storyes as he speketh of whyche he sayth the chyrche had broughte a slepe wherwyth he sayeth that Luther and Tyndale and Huyskyn and Suynglius confounde our lyes I wolde very fayne here some one story by whyche he proueth that fastynge and prayenge and almoyse dedes done in fayth hope and cheryte be noughte worth nor neuer shall haue rewarde in heuen By what olde story proueth he that folke shold not pray for theyr frendes soules By what old story wyll he shew vs that crysten women be prestes and were wonte to synge masse By what olde storye can he make yt good that in the blessed sacrament is neyther fleshe nor bloode but onely bare brede and wyne And by what olde stories new founden out can he now make vs knowe that freres or monkes professed were of olde wonte to wedde nunnes and well alowed and myche commended therin we be very sure that in all these poyntes except the last we shall fynde vnto these folke many olde autentyque storyes prouynge theyr heresyes false Howe be yt as for the laste in dede I fynde not as farre as I can remembre any olde storyes agaynste yt For I suppose veryly that vntyll frere Luther now beganne of late there neuer was wreche so bestely that euer durste for very shame attēpte any such incestuouse maryage byfore but yf yt were onely Iulianus apostata whyche fell forthwyth fro the fayth and became a false paynym and persecuted the crysten folke and Cryste quyt hym there after and shortely sente shamfull deth and the wonder of all the worlde vppon hym whyle the worde standeth Nowe come we then to the scrypture For therin they make as though they reygned we alledge sayth Tyndale 〈◊〉 vs the scrypture elder then any chyrche that was these .xiiii. yeres Fyrste when Tyndale here sayth we I wolde wytte of hym whyche we we Lutheranys or we Huyskyns or we anabaptystes or we Swynglianys or of whyche rable of all the remanaunt of those hundred sectes of whych neuer one agreeth wyth other nor neuer a man wyth his felow but eche of them layeth the scrypture as well agaynste all the remanaunte of the sectes as agaynste the catholyque chyrche Bysydes this where Tyndale saith that they alledge for theym the scrypture we saye that some thynges there are that god wyll haue byleued were of his worde was delyuered vnto his chyrche wythout wrytynge in his chy●ch wythout wrytynge preserued by the selfe same spyryte that endyghted the wrytynge And this do we proue by olde autentyke bokes of olde holy doctours and by the authoryte of the catholyque chyrche and by the manyfolde myracles that styll contynue in onely the same chyrche for the comprobacion of the doctryne of the same and besydes all this yet by playne scrypture to as I haue clerely proued vnto Tyndale in the laste chapyter of my thyrde boke And sor his purpose in that poynt he hath not one text of scripture but suche as he may be a shamed so farre agaynst the ryght sence of theym to brynge them forth in place And ouer this for his fynall confusyon in that poynte ye haue your selfe herde in my fourth boke that the perpetuall vyrgynyte of oure ladye he hath hym selfe confessed that who so euer here yt taughte muste byleue yt and yet is yt not proued by holy scrypture And therfore must he nedys geue ouer that false feble heresye whych he was wont to holde that we be bounden to byleue nothynge but yf yt be wryten as Luther sayth euydētly writen in scrypture How be yt in this that he sayth he alledgeth scrypture he dothe but walke aboute in a maase For well ye wote good reders and so doth hym selfe to that betwene these heretykes and the chyrche the questyon is not for the more parte in the wordes of the scrypture but vppon the ryght sentence and vnderstandynge of the scripture Now do we lay therin agaynste theym the olde auncyent doctours whose exposycyons they cōtemne For both for the reward of good workes and for fastynge and for the blessed sacrament and for vowes of chastyte yf they wolde stande vnto the exposycyons of the olde holy doctours vppon the scrypture they can neuer auoyde yt but that the scryptures be clere for our parte agaynste them or ellys as I haue often sayde let Tyndale tell vs some one of so many sayntes as synnes the apostles tyme haue wryten vppon the scrypture byfore Luthers days that expowned the scrypture in such wyse that yt were by his exposycyon lawefull for a frere to wedde a nunne Therfore in conclusyon as concernynge the scrypture Fyrste sor suche poyntes as god hath taughte his chyrche wythout scrypture as the artycle of the perpetuall vyrgynyte of our lady Tyndale can not teache his dyscyple that they allegge the scrypture for in scripture yt is not spoken of If he wyll saye that they be at lybertye and not bounde to byleue yt hym selfe hath in that artycle confessed the cōtrary byfore as ye haue seen in my fourth boke And also in all such other lyke yf he byleue not y e chyrch he might as well not haue byleued saint Poule

promysed the people a sauyour to come and blesse theym and saue them from theyr synnes the pharysyes taught to byleue in holy workes to be saued by as yf they offred and gaue t● be prayed for As oures as ofte as we haue a promyse to be forgeuen at the repentaūce of the herte thorow Crystes blood shedynge put to thou must fyrst ●oryue thyselfe to vs of euery syllable and we must laye our handes on thyne ●ed and whystell oute thy synnes and e●ioyne the penaunce to make satysfaccyon And yet art thou but loused from the synne onely that thou shalt not come in to hell but thou muste yet suffre for euery synne seuen yeres in purgatory ●h●●he is as who● as hell except thou bye yt out of the pope And yf thou as●e by what meanes the pope geueth such pardon They answere out of the merytes of Cryst And thus at the laste they graunt agaynst them selfes that Chryste hath not onely deserued for vs the remyssyon of our synnes but also the forgyuenesse of that grosse and fleshely imagyned purgatorye saue thou muste bye yt out of the pope And wyth suche tradycyons they toke away the keye of knowlege and stopped vppe the kyngdome o● heuen that no man coulde entre in And as I sayde they taught the pe●ple to byleue in the dedes of the ceremonyes whyche god ordeyned not to iustyfye but to be sygnes of promyses by whyche they that byleued were iustyfyed But the pharysyes put out the sygnyfycacyons and quenched the fayth and taught to be iustyfied by the worke as ours haue serued vs. For oure sacramentes were onse but sygnes partely o● what we shulde byleue to sterre vs vp vnto fayth and partely what we shulde do to sterre vs vppe to do the law of god and were not workes to iustyfy● Now make this reason vnto Iohn̄ and vnto many prophetes that went before hym and dyd as he dyd ye and vnto ●ryste hym selfe and his apostles and thou shalt fynde them all heretykes and the scrybes and pharysyes good men yf that reason be good More Lo good cristē reders here haue I rehersed you his long processe not in pyeces but euē as it lyeth to gether by whyche ye ●ay se that Tyndale doth nothyng here but tell vs the self same tale that he told vs byfore in his solucyon to the first reason For there he told vs thesame tale of the scrybes and pharysyes and synagoges and saynt Iohn̄ Baptyste and Cryste and his apostles wyth his resemblynge of the scrybes and pharysyes and synagoge to the clergye and to the catholyque chyrche and hym selfe and his holy mayster Martyn Luther and frere Huiskyn frere Lābert and Swynglius such other holy heretykes vnto saynt Iohn̄ and our sauyour his apostles as prophetes nowe new comen to begynne the trew chyrche of god agayne by goynge oute of the catholyque chyrche in lyke maner as Criste and his apostles saynt Iohn̄ the fore ●oer cam to begynne agayne the trew chyrche of god by callynge men from the synagoge All this tale as he tolde yt there so now for a new thyng he telleth vs agayne here And all this tale as I there answered yt and clerely proued yt noughte so shall I desyre the reder to resort thither and there to rede myne answere and then shall he fynd that lyke wyse as this is but his old tale new told so nedeth it none other cōfutacyon but euen myne answere new redde For where he begynneth agayne here as he dyd there hys hundred prophetes that were sent bytwene the dayes of Moyses and Cryste to call agayn the Israelytes beyng so often in the meane whyle fallen from Cryste vnto idolatrye he can neuer proue that syth Chrystes dayes the catholyke chyrche hath onys so done nor that euer it so shall here after but yf he proue therwyth all Chrystes promyses broken by whyche he hath promysed to kepe hys chyrche therfro as when he sayd that the gatys of hell sholde neuer preuayle agaynst hys chyrch and that hym selfe had so prayed for saynt Peter that hys fayth whyche he confessed sholde neuer fayle nor be put out of hys chyrche and that he ●old sende y e holy goste therin to teche it all trouth and lede it into all trouth and that hym selfe wold be ther wyth all dayes vnto the very ende of the worlde By thys it appereth playnely that though they whyche fall from thys chyrche that is to wytte suche sectes of heretykes as go oute therof maye fall to idolatrye yet the chyrche it selfe that is to saye the stocke that standeth styll and remayneth god shall neuer suffre to fall frō the fayth but yf he breke all these promyses whyche we be sure that the vnchaungeable treuth of hys owne nature beynge as hym selfe sayde the very naturall treuth can neuer suffer hym to do And so Tyndale can in thys poynt neuer make the synagoge of Moyses lyke the chyrche of Chryste that is to wytte the knowen cōtynued catholyke chyrch to the onely whyche as saynte Austayne sayth and Luther confesseth and Tyndale can not saye naye god hath gyuen the grace to knowe the very scrypture from the false and the wordes of god frome the wordes of men and to teche other folke the same all suche as gyue credence to it Besydes this yf he wyll make hys ensample lyke then muste he fyrste name vs a good sorte of those hundred prophetes that in that meane tyme bytwene Moyses Cryste called the people home from idolatry And then yf he so do he shall fynd them such as the doctryne of the latter agreed consented with the doctryne of the elder or yf god by the lat●●r opened and reueled any ferther thynge he yet by my●acles and other open meanes proued them for so good holy y ● though the peple and the princes both dyd dysalow them and hated them and kylled theym to yet when they were dede varyed they neuer so farre from theyr doctryne and were the neuer so farre from the folowynge of theyr lyuynge whyle they lyued yet they perceyued them after for sayntes and had them in perpetuall honour and reuerence to theyr owne condempnacyon as oure sauyour sayeth by theyr contrary lyuynge and persecutynge of the lyke and yet to the testymony of the trouth thorough goddes prouysyon for the profyte of other that wold both folow them and byleue them better And therfore yf Tyndale wyll now make hys mater good and hys ensample lyke he muste reherse vs a lyke sorte of some suche other holy prophetes as god hath syth the deth of Cryste in thys .xv. hundred yere sent hyther to call home his chyrche from idolatry as those other prophetes were that he speketh of sent in shorter season to call home agayne the Iewes Thys must he shewe vs yf he shewe any thynge to purpose And then whome shall he name vs Nicholaus and Cheryntus Uigilantius Dormitantius Manicheus Ualentinus Arrius Iouiniane