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A14285 A dyalogue defensyue for women, agaynst malycyous detractoures Burdet, Robert.; Vaughan, Robert, fl. 1542. 1542 (1542) STC 24601; ESTC S111468 19,831 38

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pryce By treason haue perysshed as Cronycles tell Contryued throughe the false deuyce Of cowharde Captaynes that there dyd dwell who betrayde the hyghe kynge our sauyour Iesu Paynes for to suffre with extreme passyon But Iudas vniust and treatour vntrewe whiche hanged hym selfe throughe desperacyon Aeneas with Anthenor Troye dyd betray And gaue it to the Grekes that were voyde of compassyon Than perysshed that Cytie as the storye doth say The treason of those Traytours caused great lamentacyon Fewe feldes be foughten without treason I dare say Of one parte or other fewe kyngdomes be wonne without preuy packynge for treason doth decay Mo cyties and countryes than battyll axe or gonne If stedfastnes were stablysshed substancyally in men And grauytie were groued in rulers that be lyght If promys were performed yf the cōmaundementes ten Of man were well obserued both by day and nyght Then constant I myght call hym but synce y e fayth fayleth And treason with all vyce in hym hath taken place Therfore hym to prayse syttell it auayleth For mutable he is and tourneth in small space That women be constant and trewe as fyne stele Examples we rede of Penoclope And Lucrecya that sorowes dyd felt Both matrones noble as storyes do say Hester the quene fayre Iudyth moste chast As scrypture doth say theyr people dyd saue From crewell death whan all hope was past Amonge the men suche grace God them gaue who can descrybe with pen or with tonge The constant vertue of Susan moste kynde Vnto her husbande the storye is longe In Danyell the Prophet thou mayst it fynde The mother of the Machabeis that .vii. were in nombre Exhorted her chyldren marterdom to take Her stedfastnes caused all men to wondre No payne coulde cause her the fayth to forsake The woman of Chananee of Chryst was cōmended For her fayth vnfayned and stedfast belefe By her prayer deuoute her doughter was amended That by vexacyon of a Deuyll suffered moche grefe Of virgynes moste chaste what nede I to speke As Katheryne Margaret and many thousandes mo No Tyrayne coulde cause them theyr vowes to breke Theyr thastyte to saue they suffred moche wo At Chrystes death whan the Apostles all Theyr mayster dyd leaue throughe mutabylytie Men were founde lyght and trundlynge as a ball In them was no fayth but infydelytye In one woman than all fayth dyd remayne when men dyd shrynke and tourne as the wynde Mary Chrystes mother it is that I meane No sorowe coulde cause her fayth to vntwynde Examples for this matter almoste innumerable I coulde here recyte yf tyme wolde permyt That women of dede and worde be ryght stable But here be ynowe for them that haue wyt ¶ The Pye ¶ Yet women sayde the Pye be great confusyon Vnto all men for in batteyll bolde Of blode they haue caused oft great effusyon Of theyr myschyfe moche in storyes is tolde ¶ The Fawcon ¶ Thy fables fayned make small probacyon Vnto thy purpose the Fawcon dyd say whan dyddest thou rede in trewe declaracyon That women cause batteyll by nyght or by day ¶ The Pye ¶ Dyd nat fayre Helene than sayde the Pye Of Troye the cytie cause the destruction when the stronge walles with towers and towrrettes hye By the Grekes dyd fall and had there subuersyon ¶ The Fawcon ¶ where malyce is raygnynge there false accusacyon Doth folowe sayde the Fawcon in felde and in towne Therfore of Troy thou sayst the desolacyon was caused by Helene the woman of renowne Dyd nat Alyxaunder his lust to fulfyll Sone to kynge Pryame by strength steale away Fayre Helene from the Grekes agaynst her owne wyll whan she her handes wronge howe cānest thou say nay If wepynge teares yf sygtes sore and sad If lamentacyon myght then haue preuayled Fayre Helene had escaped Parys moste mad From Grecye in to Troye with her whan he feased And thoughe battyll bloddye with murder moste myserable Betwene these two nacyons enshewed to theyr payne The adulterat it caused by dede detestable whiche coulde not from lust his body restrayne what mountayne myghty what sees roughe and depe Haue men passed throughe as beastes without wyt Theyr raygynge hath caused good women to wepe with vyolence constrayned theyr lust to admyt Suche myschyfes many men oft haue precured And yet they cesse nat the same to support As to wchynge this matter I am full assured All theyr madnes fully I can nat report ¶ The Pye ¶ I can report than sayde the Pye That women be crewell and loue to be in stryfe Cursed no Cayn thou canst nat denye Angry as the waspe wedowe mayde and wyfe ¶ The Fawcon ¶ The fayre Fawcon answered with wordes y t were wyse Sayinge Pye thou arte peuysshe and blynde as a blocke No man with reason may the suffyse Thy malyce is meruaylous and styffe as a stocke Thou raylest agaynst reason whan thou dost impute Yar vnto women with crewell condycyon For vnto the contrarye I shall dyspute Theyr pacyence and pytye in perfyt dyleccyon Heate causeth yar in man and in beaste Of yarfull herte crewelnes doth sprynge where crewelty doth dwell compassyon hath no rest For contraryes togyther can haue no bydynge what causeth fearsnes in Lyon wolfe and beare In Bores that be brym and mastyffes moche of myght whiche all in theyr raygynge in peces rent and teare Theyr prayse that they take by day or els by nyght what moueth man so fearse for to be And crewell of dede as beast wod and wylde But heat causynge yar whan he without pytie In war doth destroy the mother with the chylde And lyke as heate feruent yar doth inflame In man and in beaste and crewell them doth make So colones contrary crewelnes doth tame Causynge man and beast to shyuer and to quake women in theyr nature be colde as a kay In respect of men wherfore inclynacyon To be yarfull or crewell from them is a way And petye moste tendre in them hath habytacyon who is so sad of crewelnes to here In spoylynge or murdre as these women be For frayes and for feyghtynges they make heuy chere Vpon euery mānes hynderaunce they take great petye what wepynge teares what sore lamentacyon Dyd women make in Hierusalem Vyon the lambes death takynge compassyon That borne was of mother and mayde in Bethleem But men at that tyme as beastes raygynge mad Theyr hyghe kynge and maker dyd nayle to a tre At that season tell me whyther men had Lyke vnto women compassyon and petie ¶ The Pye ¶ Admyt that thy reasones dyd fully conclude For women sayde the Pye as thou dost infer Yet profyte from them thou must nedes exclude Theyr husbandes they brynge in det and daunger Ease they loue all to labour they dysdayne wafters they be of money meate and cloth And from the blacke boll they can nat refrayne To speake all I knowe by them I am loth ¶ The Fawcon ¶ I am full loth the Fawcon dyd say Vnto the Pye
experte the Latyne and the Greke In Rethorycke and Poetrye excellent they be And with pen to endyte they be nat to seke If women in youth had suche educacyon In knowledge and lernynge as men vse to haue Theyr workes of theyr wyttes wolde make full probacyon And that of men counceyll they nede nat to craue ¶ The Pye ¶ These Examples excell yf they be vnfayned Sayde the Pye for women to the starres they extoll In naturall knowledge nowe am I constrayned To graunt that woman hath moche in her noll ¶ The Fawcon ¶ I shall proue sayde the Fawcon that supernaturall Knowledge in woman may well take place Prophecye I meane the gyfte celestyall In to the soule infused by especyall grace Cassandra doughter to Pryamus the kynge A lady moste fayre dyd shewe the destruction Of noble Troye whan it was moste florysshynge That by Parys actes it shulde come to confusyon The .x. Maydens gentylles that Varro doth call The Sybylles this gyfte of Prophecye receyued Of meruayles they dyd speake before they dyd fall Suche as trusted theyr sayinges were nat deceyued Sybylla Tyburtyna dyd wryte in her boke That Messyas in Betheleem of a mayde shulde be borne And that in Nazareth mānes nature he toke Man to redeme that by synne was forlorne Sybylla Erythrca as Lactancyus doth recorde The processe of the Passyon moste playnly doth expresse Howe the Iewes vniustly theyr soueraygne Lorde Oppressed with paynes and deadly dystresse His buffyttes his scourgynge with whyppes that dyd cut His crowne of throne with pryckes sharpe and longe The eysell and gall that to his mouth were put These thynges she descrybed and all his other wronge The Eclypse of the Sōne that made men to quake with workes that were wonderfull sene at that season His dolorous death that amendeds dyd make For mānes mysdede and for his hyghe treason All these she descrybed by dyuyne reuelacyon Longe tyme before they came to effect And as saynt Austayne maketh recytacyon Of domes day the fearfull sygnes she dyd detect In the actes of the Apostles Luke doth recyte Howe Phylyp the Euangelyst had dowghters foure All virgyns cleane with whom was the spryte Of Prophecye as they Sybylles had before wherfore sens women suche knowledge haue had Both naturall pure and nature excedynge who doubteth in this except he be mad whyther they haue reason with y e power of vnderstandynge But these two powers set man in perfection And from brute beastes they do hym exclude women haue the same as I haue made induction Ergo they be perfyt I may well conclude ¶ The Pye ¶ Althoughe I must graunt that they of nature be Perfyt sayde the Pye made by Goddes creacyon So is the Deuyll yet in Hell lyeth he By dyuyne sentence in endles dampnacyon ¶ The Fawcon ¶ What meanest thou that murderer to mynde Sayde the Fawcon that man dyd take in his snare Our dysputacyon is of woman kynde whiche vnto the Deuyll thou mayst nat compare ¶ The Pye ¶ Betwene two extremes that in qualytyes agre Comparyson may be made than sayde the Pye The Deuyll and woman be lyke in degre Theyr ende is to haue an euyll destenye ¶ The Fawcon ¶ why women sayde the Fawcon make me relacyon More than men suche fortune shulde haue Sens man and woman be of Goddes creacyon He denyeth no mercye to them that do it craue ¶ The Pye ¶ where vyce is raygnynge than sayde the Pye Punysshement must folowe thou knowest ryght well All vyce raygneth in women this is no lye Therfore in paynes they must nedes dwell ¶ The Fawcon ¶ The Fawcon than answered mylde in his mode Sayinge Pye from thy raylynge thy selfe remoue Chryste that suffered death racked on a rode Forbyd that euer thou shulde this proue ¶ The Pye ¶ Proue sayde the Pye what maystry is this who put man I pray the in his fyrste creacyon From Paradyse that place of pleasure and blys But woman throughe the Deuylles temptacyon And therfore doubtles I may her well call The fontayne and welsprynge of all calamytie For throughe her pryde synne orygynall Dyd ysshewe with death to all her posterytie And lyke as the fyrste woman Eue I do meane Dyd sowe the sede of all iniquytie So syth her tyme women maynteyne All synne and vyce in moste enormytie wauerynge they be and lyght as the wynde Crewellas Tygres than Lucyfer more prowde And trust in them no man can fynde She is no woman that can lye lowde Of carnall pleasures they be insacyable In battyll bluddy bolde Barones for them dye woman to man was neuer profyttable But full of cost who can this denye ¶ The Fawcon ¶ A prouerbe proued sayde the Fawcon I fynde The barkynge of a Curre no Kynge can restrayne So no man can cause the malycyous mynde Of the pratynge Pye from raylynge to refrayne ¶ The Pye ¶ A prater I am called because I hyt the nayle Euen vpon the heade than sayde the Pye whan I say the trouth thou sayst I rayle Yet my trewe sayinges thou cānest nat denye ¶ The Fawcon ¶ Nothynge sayde the Fawcon is more repugnant Vnto the trouth than thy sayinges all And that may be proued by reasones abundant Deduced of pryncyples Theologycall From Parydyse pleasaunt as thou dost say Adam was expulsed with his posterytie That Eue was full cause I do say nay whom thou dost call the mother of myserie As Eue Goddes cōmaundement there dyd transgresse So dyd Adam as the storye doth tell The Sone of a mayde theyr offence dyd redresse whose death dyd breake the brasones durres of hell Nowe for as moche as dysobedyence Of both our fyrste parentes Goddes rat dyd prouoke It was nat all onely the womans offence wherby mankynde dyd suffer Goddes stroke And as Dyuynes make declaracyon If Adam had neuer consented to synne In Paradyse mankynde shulde haue had habytacyon Althoughe Eue before to offende dyd begynne wherfore thou Ianglar nowe mayst thou well se Agaynst our fyrste mother thy vniust accusacyon Seynge that man is proued cause for to be As well as the woman of all trybulacyon ¶ The Pye ¶ Than chattered the Pye and sayde with hyghe voyce Thoughe it be so as thou tellest to me Beware yet in women lest thou reioyce They wyll deceyue the by mutabylytye ¶ The Fawcon ¶ who is sayde the Fawcon all tymes at one stay Throughe this worlde wyde and neuer mutable Man is subiecte to passyons alway His lyfe in this worlde must nedes be varyable ¶ The Pye ¶ I graunt sayde the Pye but this is my mynde All women of promysse be euer vnstable Theyr fantasyes chaunge and tourne as the wynde And dowble be theyr dedes this is no fable ¶ The Fawcon ¶ In reuoluynge of storyes sayde the Fawcon then Of women stedfastnes moche mayst thou rede On the contrary parte thou shaft fynde of men That they haue ben false in worde and in dede what kyngdomes noble what Cyties of