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A54126 The counterfeit Christian detected; and the real Quaker justified Of God and Scripture, reason & antiquity. against the vile forgeries, gross perversions, black slanders, plain contradictions & scurrilous language of T. Hicks an Anabaptist preacher, in his third dialogue between a Christian and a Quaker, call'd, The Quaker condemned, &c. By way of an appeal to all sober people, especially those called Anabaptists in and about the City of London. By a lover of truth and peace W. P. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1674 (1674) Wing P1271; ESTC R220484 73,223 125

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all this wre●●ing Is it to conclude therefore the Light within is insufficient which may as well be inferred against God Christ and the Holy Spirit for he makes me to exclude all other Wayes of Di●covery the● what is made by Scripture If an Account be wanting the Light of Christ is as sufficient now as it was in the Time of Moses and the Prophets who wrot both of Things past and to come But a Relation being with us the Light of Christ doth n●thing unnecessarily But 't is like T. H. degenerates not from his Ancestors he can cry Come down and save thy self c. 4. From our asserting the Works of the Spirit in us necessary to our compleat Justification or Acceptance with God he insinuates Our making those Works the meritorious Cause of our Salvation Dial. 3. p. 69. which is manifestly denyed and rejected by me in my Answer p. 72 73 82 83 86. whi●h he no more regards then if it never were The Trick of an unfair and shuffling Adversary 5. From my asserting the Necessity of an inward Work of Righteousnes● by the Power of Christ in these Words of the Apostles to the Galatians Let every Man prove his own Work then shall he have Rejoycing in himself and not in another He to make his Ends upon me infers That the Doctrine of Christ dying for Sinners hath nothing in it as the Ground of our Rejoycing For our Rejoycing must be in our selves not in another Dial. 3. p. 69 70. That Reader which aggravates this wretched Consequence by him charged upon me is first that he sayes it is plainly deducible which is so plain a Wrest And next that they are the Apostle's Words and not mine of which he makes so ill an Use Is this to make the Scripture his Rule that is so unruly in his Abuse of them I am sure a lying and an abusive Spirit has been his Rule throughout his three Dialogues which God rebuke 6. The sixth Perversion is as follows Being formerly assaulted by T. Hicks Cont. p. 50. for having said in a Book entituled The Serious Apology c. p. 148. That Justification by a Righteousness wholy without us is a Doctrine of Divels I undertook my Defence and performed it in my Answer to his other Dialogues from p. 68. to p. 98. I distinguished upon the Word Justification first as it might be taken barely for the Remission of Si●s or the acquitting Men of the Guilt and Punishment due to Sin which was the free Love and Mercy of God upon Repentance d●clared in Christ's Death as a Prop●tiation for the Sins of the whole World and therefore not to be merited by the best Works we can perform 2dly As it imported a being made inwardly just by the bringing in of Christ's Everlasting Righteousness to the Soul To leave out this latter and make the former only sufficient whereby Men are left in an unjust and unrighteous State I affirmed to be a Doctrine of Devils But notwithstanding this plain and scriptural Distinction to satisfie T. Hicks would he but be satisfied what I meant by Justification He is so unjust to me as to infer in my Name That I account the Doctrine of Christ's Death in the Nature of a Sacrifice to declare the Righteousness of God for the Remission of Sins that are past because transacted without us a Doctrine of Devils Dial. 3. p. 72 73 74. Canst thou Reader in earnest think this Man makes Conscience of his Endeavours against us who commits these frequent Abuses against our Books Persons and Principles As if because I acknowledged Christ's Death to be in the Nature of a Sacrifice to declare God's Righteousness in the Remission of Sins that are past unto them that believe c. to be one Part of Justification that this Transaction was confessedly without us even while we were Sinners c. that therefore I should call this the Doctrine of Devils because without us though the Word wholy be not there upon which lay the Stress and which was only said by me of a Justification that wholy excludes Christ's Righteousness revealed within to the making Man Just unworthily applying that Reflection to the begin●ing of Justification that I have so expresly owned which was made against a Doctrine no wayes concern'd in this true and Gospel-Justification In short If Justification by Christ's Righteousness without us be the same with being justified by Christ's Righteousness wholy without us then T. H. is not so bad a man as I have represented him But if there be any Difference as undeniably there is a●d a material One too then T. H's Inference and Con●lu●ion in my Name make a foul Perversion 7. The last Perve●sion I at this time think fit to mention is his last both in his Epistle and Book to wit from my saying upon a sad Conside●ation of his many Miscarriages towards us That his Head sh●uld not go down into the Grave in P●ace he thus interprets my Words I must take them either as a Prediction or as a Menace of some Mischief he himself or s●me influenced by him intend to perpetrate upon me The former I fear not the latter is most Probable as if Reader his not fearing a Prediction implies my not meaning a Prediction But why is the former not feared the latt●● more probabl● because he would render me a Murder●r as his following Words sufficiently evidence Wherefore sayes he I desire all to whom this Book may come that if at any time they hear of any Violence offered me or that I be ASSASSINATED they would remember these Words of W. Penn. that my Head shall not go down to the Grave in Peace Epist Book End Now though this miserable Construction be ridiculous with wise Men and rejected of several of his own Way and so unlikely a Thing in it self that I should proclaim that to be my Design that leads to t●e Gibbit viz. Murder yet I was unwilling to pass it by since first it rather renders him to be the M●n he suggests me to be And secondly It aggravates the Sin of his false Constru●tion because to insinuate it the better he has left out all these Words going before an● afte● that had they been mentione● wo●ld have detected his Malice viz. Though thou hast best●w●d much Time to abuse our Friends in general a●d my self in particular a Stranger to thee yet I can forgive thee Oh that these heavy Things might not be laid to thy Charge God will visit for these Vnrighteous Dealings if thou desist not Now Reader if I forgive how can I Assassinate and if it be God's visiting Hand how can it be mine or any influenced by me Again these following Words were the next to those by him cited viz. Yea the Light within will bear Witness to the Truth of these Things on thy DYING-BED and then remember me How comes this T. H. to be omitted Dying-Beds do not use to be unnatural Deaths Nor will the Light within
him for this great Scandal to their Profession But suppose I meant the whole Law of God in that place I see no worse Consequence from my words then this That so far as man's Obedience to God's Law is requisite to his Acceptance so far only Christ became our Example For as he was not our Pattern in things that more peculiarly related to him to perform and finish so was he no more then our Pattern in that which is our constant Duty to do Now let T. H. snap and catch what he can with all his Leg●rdemains pag. 69. only take this along with him That by his Reflection upon that Argument viz. That Christ hath not SO fulfilled the Law for us as to exclude our Obedience from being requisite to our Acceptance he implies a Denyal of the N●cessity of Obeying the Law of God to Acceptance with God A Doctrine suited to his Practice contrived and continued to the Ease of Hypocrites no wonder he struggles so hard for it for without it nothing but Horror would surround him though at this rate he must not alwayes expect to escape the Blow I mean not assassinating of him a Trick that lives nearer his Complexion then mine but that Vengeance Which is the Recompence of every Soul that loveth and maketh a Lye With you the People called Anabaptists I leave this Section Right us Right your selves Right our Profession of such an Unfair Adversary and your selves of so Scandalous an Advocate § II. That T. Hicks has grosly Perverted our Writings TO Forge is bad but to Pervert may in a Sen●e be worse since it is to mis-use true words and by Disguise twist them to a Sense never intended when many times that which is false it undiscernably swallowed for the sake of something that 's true This was another Charge I exhibited again●t T. Hicks and an Argument by which I proved him no Christian I frequently in my Book took Occasion to detect him of this Unworthy Practice and more especially by 26 instances under a distinct Head containing ten page● our Principles in one Column and his Perversions in another but he seems dumb to the Charge Shall I enter him mute that may alter but not excuse the Punishment Ass●ssinating always excepted I shall Reader for thy sake and the Truth 's produce some of them that those to whom this may come may have some Account of his Carriage in his former Dialogues I. From our Belief of the Light 's Sufficiency to save he infers That all other Means are needless Dial. 1. p. 36 37. not considering it was not the Light 's Insufficiency but man's Weakness that occasion'd them He might object Insufficiency as well against God Christ Spirit Grace c. II. From our making the Illumination in man to be a natural Emanation or Product of the divine Word which made all things he wickedly turns it to An Effect of God's Power and so sayes we would make Beasts and Trees c. also divine Ibid. p. 4. III. From our asserting that the Light of Christ shineth within the Hearts of Wicked as well as Good Men He tells People in our Name that he is in the Heart of every Wicked Man as he is in his Saints Cont. p. 45 46. Though through Rebellion they partake not of his Life Power c. IV. From our affirming that God is the Teacher of his ●eople He infers That we deny all Ministry and Visible Worship though they stand in God's Power and Spirit 1 Dial. p. 42 43. V. From our believing Christ to be in his People according to express Scripture and that as such he is crucified by Wicked Men He infers That we deny Christ to be as well without as within or that he was ever crucified in the Flesh 1 Dial. p. 44. Contin pag. 37 40 42. VI. From our denying of their rigid Satisfaction that is that Christ was punished by his Father for our Sin and that Sins past present and to come are answered for And that men may be Holy by Virtue thereof though not new but old Creatures and so unholy in themselves He unworthily concludes That We disown Christ's Death and Sufferings as a Propitiation that it carried away Sins past and sealed Remission in his Blood to as many as believe And that we expect to be both forgiven and accepted not for Christ's sake nor in his Sacrifice Righteoussness but our own Works 1 Dial. p. 9 10. Contin 48 49 50 51 52 53. VII From our pleading for a Perfection from Sin and the Duty of growing to the Fulness of the Measure c. He infers Our Denyal of Perfection in Degrees and our Belief of as high a Degree of Perfection in this World as hereafter Dial. 1 pag. 48 49 50 51. VIII Because we say that such Works as are wrought by the Holy Spirit in us are necessary to Eternal Life and may in a sense be said to obtain it since the Lord hath ●o freely offered it upon the Condition of believing and ●being which are the Fruits of the Spirit of God in man T. Hicks suggests in our Name That we exp●ct to merit ●ternal Life by our good Works and those of our own Working as the Spider weaves his Webb out of his own Bowels Dial. pag. 38. Contin pag. 51 52. IX Because we say All Spiritual Liberty stands in God's Power that redeems from Sathan's Snares He inferreth That who are not of our Way should have no Liberty Cont. pag. 85. X. Because we say The Scriptures are not the great Gospel Rule but the Spirit The Dispensation of the Spirit being that of the Gospel more peculiarly and that without it we cannot understand or savingly believe any thing declared of in the Scripture and therefore that it is our Rule for believing the Scriptures them selves He basely suggests That the Quakers cast off al● Precepts in the Scriptures and so will not bring their Cheats and Impostures to the Test thereof counting them of no more Authority then Esop's Fables Dial. 1. p. 20 21 22 23 24 30 31 32 33 34 35 36. Contin Epist to the Reader Behold your Anabaptist-Preacher XI From our preaching men to a lost God and Christ that is to God and Christ whom they have lost Fellowship with He perverts it to our believing That God and Christ were in a lost or undone Condition Cont. p. 49. XII From our asserting that what was a Command to any Servant of God in old time is not so to us because so to them that is such as Moses's going to Pharoah the Performance of Types Shadows and Figur●s appointed for a Season and to pass off unless requir'd by the same Spirit anew He falsly infers That those Moral and Eternal Precepts Thou shalt have no other God but me Thou shalt not Murder Commit Adultery Steal Bare False Witness c. are not binding upon us but that we give our selves the Liberty of such horrid Principles as the contrary to those Principl●s and
known by it For it is but to say that EACH DEGREE of Light is serviceable to its End 1 Dial. p. 36. Yet in direct Contradiction to and Undervalue of this he sayes within two Pages after The Improv●ment of the Light within subverts the Covenant of Grace the only Way God hath revealed for Salvation and that it directly Opposeth it self to the Ends of the Covenant and ought to be rejected p. 38. My Animadversion contracted upon these Contradictions I will give If this be to argue safely prudently and like a Disputant I am greatly mistaken sure I am there is nothing of Truth or Christianity in such Confusion For that a Man should be oblieged to obey a Light that doth mis-guide or that T. Hicks should talk of acting according to the Light in him making his Appeal to it in others and yet say that it may deceive and oppose the very Ends of the Covenant of Grace is with 〈◊〉 the Top of all Impudence and Self-Contradiction All this Reader he pass'd with his usual Silence How concern'd he was to consider it I shall leave with thee to judge having hereby so manifestly forfeited his Reputation both as a Christian and a Disputant But I will not leave him here I shall greaten his Score ere we part and yet evidence that he hath said little against us wherein he hath not said a great deal in Contradiction to himself Contr. I. I T. Hicks appeal to the Light in thee Steph. Crisp whether this be not an insufficient Proof for I grant the Light ought to be obeyed It cheks for Evil and excites to good things Dial. 1. pag. 7 8. Yet in Contradiction to this hear what he sayes I deny not a Light to be in every man for the Vnderstanding and Conscience being Parts of the Reasonable Soul these do remain still in the Worst of Men though the RECTITUDE BE LOST Dial. 1. pag. 32. Observ Is it not Madness in T. Hicks to appeal to a Light that hath lost its Rectitude that is Reader which through Depravity is become Darkness for an Evidence about matters of the greatest concern in Religion Can such a Light check for Evil and excite to Good that T. H. sayes hath lost its Rectitude And is it a Crooked and Depraved Light that he grants is to be obeyed and followed Is this man fit to reprove the Quak●rs for turning men to a sufficient Light who himself ●onfessedly follows a Crooked Depraved Light No Wonder if he cannot see the Truth and Streightness of our Light who judgeth of it by a Light that hath lost its Rectitude For saith he I do and must bear witness against thy Opinion of the Sufficiency of the Light in every man if I be true to the Light in me that hath lost its Rectitude 1 Dial. pag. 8 32. Contr. II. It will be our Wisdom yea our Duty also to attend to the Light within 1 Dial. pag. 13. as the Place imports Yet in direct Contradiction he sayes pag. 38. What intollerable Pride and Arrogancy have you Quak●rs arrived to and all this in following the Conduct of the Light within What sayest thou to this Reader Is this Man like to make the Quaker No Christian Is it not a Shame for those call'd Anabaptists to suffer this man as well in his manifest Weakness as great Dishonesty to manage the Controversie against us Contr III. That which any of you Quakers have said of the Light within hath been no more then what the Apostle speaks of the Man of Sin And what may as well prove Mahomet to be the True Christ as the Light in you Again If thou sayest that the Light in every man is Christ I charge it with Blasphemy 1 Dial. pag. 3 11 12. Yet in direct Contradiction T. H. saith How could you Quakers call the Light within Christ if ●ome Scriptures had not mentioned Christ in you and that he is the the Light and Life of men 1 Dialog pag. 22. Obs●rv D●e● Joh. 1.4 9. chap. 14.20 2 Cor. 4 6. chap. 13.5 Gal. 1.16 which we are wont to offer as well prove the Man of Sin Mahomet to be Christ as the Light which T. H. acknowledgeth to check for Evil to ex●ite to Good things and confesseth as before That the Scriptures have given us to call the Light within Christ and Christ the Life and Light of men Wer 't thou aware of these things T. H. when thou wrotest them Art thou fit to accuse me of Inadvertency that committest it thy sel f. I will not say that any of thy Friends being charg'd with thy Follies replied What doest thou tell us of T. Hicks He is a Heady Rash Man we take no notice what he saith But that thou hast prov'd thy self Rash and Heady and that they ought to take no further notice of thee then to check thee thy wretched Management of the Controversy against us sufficiently proveth But let us proceed IV. Contr. You Quakers since you have reprobated the Scriptures from being your Rule and given up your selves to the immediate Motions and Government of the Light within have arrived to this Degree of Wickedness to deny Jesus Christ to be a distinct Person without you 3 Dial. pag. 15 16. Yet in plain Contradiction he sayes That every Man hath a Light within him is not denyed and that it ought to be obeyed is granted Ibid. pag. 8. Observ The Consequence Reader which is this That Men ought to obey that Light the Government of which leads to deny Jesus Christ c. and to persist in a Reprobation of the Scriptures Is this Doctrine like to Christian the Anabaptist and Vnchristian the Quaker Contr. V. Verily I much doubt that you believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that as concerning the Flesh he was put to Death at Jerusalem 1 Dial. Pag. 43 44. Again The Quaker denies That Christ was over Visible to Wicked men and consequently that Person call'd in the Scripture by this Name who conversed in the World and suffered Death openly and visibly at Jerusalem to be the Christ So that a Personal Coming in any respect is manifestly denyed by you Contin pag. 37 45. Yet to un-say and contradict all this he sayes I never charg'd you Quakers for denying that bodily Appearance 3 Dial. p. 26. I no where accuse you for denying Christ's Bodily Appearance Ibid. pag. 33. Ye have confessed to Chris●'s Bodily Appearance Ibid. pg. 31. Which is to say Observ The Quakers do own Christ's Visible Appearance The Quakers do not own Christ's Visible Appearance yet I doubt whether they own Christ's Visible Appearance or no. Is this Man fit to write Controversie that is of three or four Minds in the writing it T●e End of all this Confusion will be not our Confutation but Vindication in the minds of all impartial Men. VI. Contr. His sixth Contradiction is this That the Religion of the Quakers is a Cheat calculated only to th● Service of the Devil