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A43220 The speech of Nicholas Heath Lord Chancellor of England, Lord President of Wales, Bishop of Worcester, and afterward Archbishop of York and ambassadour into Germany / delivered in the Upper House of Parliament in the year 1555 ; proofs from Scripture that Christ left a true church and that there is no salvation but in the Catholick and Apostolick Church ; proofs from the Fathers that there is no salvation to be expected out of the true Catholick and Apostolick Church ; certain principles of the first authors of the Reformation not so well known to many of their followers ; the principle of the Catholick Apostolick Church ; testimony of the Fathers concerning the real presence. Heath, Nicholas, 1501?-1578. 1688 (1688) Wing H1337; ESTC R35988 79,776 181

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that Paganism having been banish'd out of our Land upon the false Information of our first Teachers that it was an Adoration of Devils or evil Spirits and wicked debaucht Men who by counterfeit Wonders and Cheats gained the peoples Adoration since that Dr. Stillingfleet Dr. Burnet and other Reformed Writers will make it out thar the Pagans Adored no Devils but One true Omnipotent Supream God blessed for ever more which they called Jupiter and the rest of the Gods as Inferiour Deities as Papists do their Saints and will prove that the Pagans were charged by the first D. Doctors of Christanity and by all our Ancestors with more than they are guilty of why should not Paganism be restored again to the Land and heard to speak for it self and Dr. Stillingfleet and his zealous companions be Licenc'd to plead for them and for holy Jupiter so foully mis-represented by Antiquity as to be believed an Arch-Devil whom Dr. Stillingfleet will prove to have been a true blessed God for evermore That Paganism was so unjustly banish'd from our Nation if what Dr. Stillingfleet says be true he is a learned Religious and diligent searcher into Scripture the Ancient D. Drs. and Fathers of the Church reading Scripture judged and taught that Jupiter was a Devil as well as the rest of the Gods which the Gentiles Adored Dr. Stillingfleet and other Reformed D. Doctors reading Scripture judge he was no Devil but the true God blessed for evermore any Child of the Reformation may believe either of both and put Jupiter into our Litanies as well as JESUS Christ and offer Sacrifice to him as formerly our Ancestors did for whatever any Man of sound judgement judges to be the Doctrine of Scripture may be safely believed and is the Doctrine of the Reformation Here follows the Sense of Scripture as Interpreted by the Church Councils and Fathers in lieu of those fond fancies which the Protestant Preachers have possest the people with as the belief of Catholicks faithfully reported from a true zeal and affection to my Country-men that they may not plead Ignorance before the Tribunal of the Almighty in so important a concern as their Salvation to the manifest hazard of their Souls Eternity THe Catholicks teaches Pennance Mortification of the Body subjection of the Flesh to the Spirit the sensitive part to the rational by Praying Fasting Obedience Humility Poverty To Crucifie the Flesh and the Lusts thereof Gal. 5.12 Pardoning Injuries loving one another Praying for Enemies doing good to those that Persecute us Forsake all and follow Christ Mat. 19.22 suffering Persecution for Conscience sake making Vows of Chastity And out of the same Chap. v. 27 28 29. By Vowing perpetual Chastity St. Mat. 19.12 leaving the World our friends and possessions to Consecrate our selves by Prayer and the service of God to keep Lent and fasting days to observe Religious Vows St. Mat. 15.15.25 to sell all we have and give it to the Poor Tobit 12. to take up our Cross and follow Christ Tobit 1. to leave Father Mother Isai 58. Brothers Sisters and Wife St. James 5. and all things for the love of God St. Matt. 18. in fine Galib Prov. 27. that there is no way to Heaven Eccles 5. but by the way of Pennance Fasting Rom. 15. and Prayer and such like Mortifications and Austerities of the Body St. Mark. 11. St. James 2. 26. to make Restution of ill-gotten good St. John 4.16.3 v. 14. James 5.20 and Reparation for any Violations of anothers good Name or Reputation 1 St. John 3.14 to feed the Hungry give drink to the Thirsty Cloath the Naked Redeem the Captives Harbour the Harbourless Visit the Sick Bury the Dead to Correct the Obdurate Instruct the Ignorant Reduce the Wavering Comfort the Sorrowful bear wrongs patiently forgive all Injuries and to pray for the Living and the Dead as also that God shuts the Gate of Heaven against the Impenitent and that there is no Salvation without Charity but that Charity it self covers a Multitude of Sins that Charity gives Spiritual Life to the Soul that in Charity we know we are Translated from Death to Life because we love the Brethren That the good Pastor giveth his life for his Sheep St. John 10.12 As That Faith without Charity is dead St. James 2.26 And that the highest act of Charity is to give our Life for Gods Honour and the Salvation of our Neighbour these ways are not pleasing to the people nor easie to Flesh and Blood without Gods Grace If Protestants and Reformers go to Heaven with more liberty and with greater ease and pleasure we must say broad is the way and many there be that find it But if there be no Salvation without following the above-cited Doctrines as the Catholick Church teaches the Catholick is much nearer that the Protestant to the strait way and narrow Gate that leads and opens to Eternal Life There are no Doctrines mentioned here but what are contained in the Catechisms of all Roman Catholicks and that which they teach all Children and which are very wide from those Doctrines that Protestant Preachers report of them about Dispensations with Allegiance Oaths and all other Tyes how solemnly sacred soever all which are no less commonly than untruly suggested for I shall demand of such by what Councils received by the Catholick Church such Dispensations have been allowed or from what Church Tradition such pernicious Tenents have been handed I desire of Protestants to produce one for if it be any point of Faith it must have taken rise either from the Authority of some Council received in the Church or of Universal Tradition since whatever obliges all Roman Catholicks must of necessity enter into their belief or practice at one of these two doors And if these Dispensations have been taught neither by Councils nor Traditions it remains that Protestants have been gull'd by their Pastors in receiving such for Catholick doctrines which are taught no where but in Protestant Books and Pulpits For had such Dispensations been the Doctrines or Practices of Papists what folly had it appeared in Protestant Magistrates to require Oaths of them who hold themselves under no obligation to them when they have taken them and what madness had it appeared in Papists to incur the Forfeiture heretofore of their lives and late of their liberty and fortunes rather then take such Oaths with which if they had advised with the Protestant Minister they might have dispensed at pleasure Country-men read your Chronicles peruse your Statutes and Records review many of your Ancient Customs and Observances look upon the Windows of the Churches reflect upon the Names and Dedications of the same Chruches of divers days of the year of divers of your Colledges upon the Crosses every where erected upon the Multitude of Monasteries Abbies and other Religious Houses which heretofore flourished in this Kingdom and then suffer you selves to doubt
as he was man q In Ps 16 not as he was God. r In Confes majori de Coena Dni And this is not only the Doctrine of Calvin but of Brentius m In March. c. 16. Marlot n Recogn pag. 376. Jacobus Minister quoted by Bilson and of Beza Will you say this is the Doctrine of the Reformation or that we cannot without scruple believe it Also Calvin says o Lib 2. Infr. c. 16. fact 10. and seq That Christ's corporal Death was not sufficient for to redeem us but that after having despared on the Cross he suffered the death of his Soul that 's to say that his Soul after his corporal death suffered the pains of the damned in Hell. m in March. c. 16. And says he in the same place n Recogn pag. 376. they are but ignorant o Lib 2. Instit c. 16. fact 10. and seq doltish brutish men who will deny it Luther also teaches the same Doctrine r In Confes majori de Coena Dni p To. 3. Wettemp in sp 16. As he suffered afterward the death of the Soul in Hell Epinus q In Ps 16 a learned Lutheran says Christ Descended into Hell for thee t In Hastor Sacram. par 2. fol. 75. and suffered not only corporal Death but the death and fire of Hell. Mr. Fulk and Perkins avow this is also is the express Doctrine of Illirious Latimer and Lossius Also Luther most impiously affirms that not the humane Nature of Christ died for us but also his Divine Nature see Luther's words quoted at large by Zuinglius Å¿ To. 2. in respons ad Confes Luth. fol. 458. and Hospitian It is evident that all those Tenets are undeniably the Doctrine of the Reformation He who denies them cannot in charity check them who believes them nor can they who believe them check those who deny them whereas each follow the Rule of Faith and believe what they judge by Scripture to be true And if you or your Church of England cry out Blasphemy Blasphemy against all that you judge to be false why do not you cry Blasphemy against Presbyterians Lutherans and other Congregations from whom you dissent And what difference betwixt you and the Church of Rome The folly of this is to call Heresie and Blasphemy all that is not her own Doctrine And all that your Church of England mislikes must be Fanaticism Blasphemy and Impiety Must our Rule of Faith be Scripture as the Church of England understands it and not otherwise Presbyterians and Lutherans will never allow it If therefore our Rule of Faith be Scripture as each Person understands it any Person of sound judgement in the Reformation may without scruple believe what he understands to be the Doctrine of Scripture Can you deny but this was the Rule of Faith and principle of our first blessed Reformers If therefore they judged and if any other judges by that Rule and Principle that those Tenets which you call Impious and Blasphemous be true Doctrine they cannot be blamed for believing them Of the Reformed was as Holy Innocent Blameless and Pure as yours is now And that you may be convinc'd of this Truth know Calvin expresly teaches a Lib 3. Inst c. 4. Sect. 28. We believe the sins of the Faithful he means of the Reformation are but venial Sins not but that they desire Death but because there is no damnation for the Children of Grace in asmuch as their sins are not imputed to them And again he says We can b Lib. 4. c. 7. Sect. 2. assure our selves we can no more be damn'd for any Sins then Jesus Christ himself c In locis commun classe 5. 27. Luther is of the Opinion As nothing but Faith does justifie us so nothing but Incredulity is a Sin. Again d To. 2. Wittem de capr Babyl fol. 74. No sin is so great that it can damn a man such as are damn'd are damn'd only for their Incredulity Whitaker e De Eccl. contr Bellarm. conf 2. quaest 5. No Sin can hurt a man who has Faith. The same is taught by Wotton Fulk Tindal and Beza It is therefore the Doctrine of Scripture as Interpreted by these persons of great and sound judgement that Incests Murders Intemperance or whatever else you call a sin incredulity excepted either is no Sin at all or Venial Sins which do no harm nor cannot damn the Children of the Reformation if therefore our Brethren who lived in the beginning of the Reformation lived according to Scripture as Interpreted by men of sound judgement which is the Rule of Faith and Manners they did not ill but very well in following it And it is not pardonable in any Reformed Child to say such Oracles Extraordinarily raised by God to teach the purity of the Gospel should have taught their errors in Doctrine or dissolution of manners They teach what in their Consciences they understood by Scripture to be true if you will not be so irreverent as to say that they were Knaves who spoke and taught against their Consciences and knowledge Therefore they taught the Doctrine of the Reformation purely and truly The consequence is evident For what is the Doctrine of the Reformation but what wise learned men of sound judgement think and understand by Scripture to be true Why is figurative Presence the Doctrine of the Reformation though denied by Lutherans who are Reformed also but because Wise Learned men judge by Scripture as they understand it it is the true Doctrine or can you give me any other Rule of Faith by which we may know what Doctrine is of the Reformation and what not but Scripture as each person of sound judgement understands it Or what Rule can you give for to know what is good or evil to be done but Scripture as understood by such persons If therefore Luther Calvin and the other Doctors I quoted judge by Scripture that Doctrine and manner of Life to be true and good why may not we say it 's the Doctrine of England or Scotland judge that Doctrine to be false and that manner of Life to be a dissolution and corruption of manners Why you are men of sound judgement you understand Sripture so that will be the Doctrine also of the Reformation you may believe it But you must not deny that Luther and Calvin's Doctrine is also of the Reformation because they were men of as sound judgement as you Our Rule of Faith is Scripture as each person of sound judgement understands it and this is the same Rule which Luther and the Reformation in its first beginning had This Holy Liberty is the best Jewel the greatest Perfection and most glorious Prerogative the Reformation has If therefore now at present any man judges by Scripture that he can Marry ten Wives at a time that he can kill his own Son as Abraham intended that he may commit Incest with his own