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A07807 A full satisfaction concerning a double Romish iniquitie; hainous rebellion, and more then heathenish æquiuocation Containing three parts: the two former belong to the reply vpon the Moderate Answerer; the first for confirmation of the discouerie in these two points, treason and æquiuocation: the second is a iustification of Protestants, touching the same points. The third part is a large discourse confuting the reasons and grounds of other priests, both in the case of rebellion, and æquiuocation. Published by authoritie. Morton, Thomas, 1564-1659. 1606 (1606) STC 18185; ESTC S112912 216,074 250

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though he should do something contrary to the vniuersall state of the Church As for example saith your Azorius though hee should neglect the Canons of the Church spare offenders oppresse Innocents make a pray of the goods of the Church and violate the lawes of Kings yet is he not to be iudged of any but God Not though saith your Pope himselfe one placed in the Calends of your Martyrs hee should cary many people with himselfe to hell yet no mortall creature may presume to say why do you so Heere is a desperate disease wherein you will not suffer so much as practise of Phlebotomy much lesse an incision or exustion And yet in like case against the secular state obiect Gods prouidence said I like O no farre different The difference of Kings and Popes in this point The Papall power will be thought spirituall and thus being euill may be the baine of soules the power of Princes is but corporall Therefore ●●are them not because they can goe no further then the body Now the bodilie tyrannie worketh in the godly patience patience supports martyrdome martyrdome gaineth a crowne of life Therefore this euill with patience may happily be indured but the spirituall tyranny doth captiuate the inward soule the sou●…c commands the senses these practise sinne and the stipend of sinne is death euen the euerliuing death of hell Therefore heere is need according to Gods prouidence of power to depose so desperate a spirituall euill whereof it is written If the salt want his salinesse it is good for nothing but to to be cast vpon the Dunghill Marke then concerning the spirituall that God hath ordeined Eijciatur foras cast out concerning the temporall Resist not the powers CHAP. XV. The Arguments of Protestants against the pretended Papall power ouer Kings from 1. Scripture 2. Fathers 3. Reasons 1. Scriptures In the Old Testament IT is granted vs for the old Testament that Priests were subiect to their Kings and the necessity of due subiection to wicked Kings we haue exemplified in Dauid the mirror of all perfect loyalty which case is made more liuely by the Answer to the example of Eliah Scriptures In the New Testament Of many one shall suffice Rom. 13. Let euery soule be subiect to the higher powers If you doubt what power this is to whom subiection is due looke what he hath in his hand He beareth not the sword for naught It is a sword therefore power temporall if from whom this is due it appeareth Euery soule be subiect all other conditions of reasonable men If why this is expressed For the power is ordained of God The point in question is concerning the Subiect The Romish seeke two enasions to free their Pope from subiection The Romish pretence From this place the Protestants conclude that therefore the Pope ought to be subiect But I deny their consequent for the Apòstle writeth of subiection to Heathen Emperours to whom euery Christian was to submit themselues But now that Emperours be Christians they ought to acknowledge a superiour power in the spirituall Pastor the Pope The Replie This your solution doth destroy a generall maxime confessed of all diuines to wit that as your Acosta confesseth Insidels conuerted to Christian faith do not therefore lose their former temporall right Which we haue already prooued by your owne confessions and more then ten circles of Antiquity We argue further now from this knowen principle Princes by conuersion to the Gospell lose no temporall right which they had before their conuersion But in the state of Infidelitie we neuer reade that they could be deposed by their Pagan Priests Ergo this their prerogatiue may not be impaired by their obedience vnto the Gospell nay it is rather confirmed thereby euen in this text especially in three degrees First it teacheth greater Christian reuerence because in the Prince a Christian man doth not behold only man but the hand of God He is the Minister of God Secondly from Christian feare For Pagans as hirelings onely performed obedience propteriram for feare of the temporall Sword which man because it is in the hand of man might auoid by many meanes But Christians He that resisteth purchaseth damnation are dutifull for feare of the eternall wrath of the iust omnipotent God Thirdly from Christian confidence For Pagans assoone as the King doth tyrannize do rebel as though freedome corporall were their speciall good but Christians Wil t thou not feare the power doe good and thou shalt haue praise of God in suffering outward euill for well doing are confirmed in the hope of an euerlasting good Fourthly from the bond of Christian loue for Pagans by their Princes commands are naturally inclined to discontent and hate but Christians Loue is the fulfilling of the law are by the law of Loue made perfect to obey the iust lawes of men If therefore Christians would as they ought be subiect to the law of Christ I suppose there is no Pagan Prince if perswaded of this doctrine of Christ but would more easily be a Christian Their second Euasion The Romish Pretence The Apostle doth not restraine his speech to any kind of superiour power but speaketh generally of powers that be signifying aswell the spirituall power as the temporall Therefore Protestants may not conclude heereupon that the Pope ought to be subiect vnto temporall Kings The Answer If we suffer the spirit of God to be our Iudge the cause is plaine He beareth not the sword in vaine he meaneth the temporall Gouernour If we require witnesse of this truth from all antiquity behold S. Chrysostome saith your own Bishop and that truly doth vnderstand by euery soule that euery Apostle euery Prophet and euery Bishop ought to be subiect To whom doe other ancient Fathers as Euthym. Theod. Theoph. Oecumen and all the Greeke Doctors agree Yea Gregory surnamed the Great Bishop of Rome doth so likewise expound it and S. Bernard in his Epistle to a Bishop said th●… Euery soule saith the Apostle then must you also speaking the bishop of Senona be subiect he that shall offer to exempt you shall but offer to tempt and delude you CHAP. XVI Arguments of Protestants from Antiquitie HE that is Alpha and Omega first for Antiquity and last for Eternity Christ our Sauiour by the confession of your grand Iesuite as he was man and the Messias had no power temporall on this earth Secondly S. Peter and the other Apostles as is also confessed by your most vehement Aduocates in their plea for Papall hierarchie were all subiect to the temporall States Thirdly all ancient holy Popes Martyrs Fathers as is commonly granted yea when they had force to resist the violence of Tyrants Heretickes and Apostates did performe subiection to temporall gouernment as the ordinance of God Tertullian saying If we would be reuenged we could not want force S. Cyprian We
of honour as to haue beene an Inginer and worker in the Powder-vault together with Piercie and Catesbie brethren in that euill and thus is the noble person made guilty of high treason but after by more exact triall of circumstances it is found that the man of honour was neuer incorporate in that conspiracie what can you answer for your G●… What else but as your Garnet answered for your Tresham I thinke he did aequiuocate saying The honourable man was present in that vault reseruing in his thought this clause Quatenus vir longissimè absens praesens esse potuit But answer for we wil draw you out of that foxe hole He swearing according to these words This man was one of vs Pioners did his words accord with his direct meaning No then was not his oath a veritate from truth But did his oath the second propertie of a true oath confirme a truth No for it did betray an innocent then was it not pro veritate for truth Therefore call you such an oath Aequiuocation or Reseruation or secret limitation or what you will our great grandfathers I am sure would haue termed it peri●rie and adiudged it to the pillorie a shame too little for so shamelesse a collusion For seeing that Periurie though not in the iniurie to man yet in it owne iniquity is a more grieuous sinne than murder it may be wished that mentall aequiuocation might haue a corporall suspension and where any of whatsoeuer profession he be shall be found guilty of both murder and the aequiuocating clause of Reseruation the sinne of Reseruation may haue a reseruation of punishment that if for the one he hang by the neck for the other he may hang iointly by the tongue as it is written Iuxta peccatum ita erit poenae modus CHAP. VI. Our fift Argument from the principall subiects of Truth God and Lying the Diuell 1. God HEb 6. 17. God willing to shew more abundantly vnto the heires of promise the stablenesse of his Counsell bound himselfe by an oath that by two immutable things wherein it is impossible that God should lie we might haue strong consolation c. Heere we see the nature of a lie To be so absolutely euill in it owne nature as which all Diuines hold that nothing can make it good Therefore so it is said that to say it is vnpossible that our good God father of truth should lie is as much as to say it is impossible for goodnesse to be euill or for truth to be a ●ie because this is as contradictorie as God not to be God Hence we argue Maior That which God can not doe by reason of lying iniquity hath in it the iniquity of a lie Minor But your aequinocating conceit is that which for the lying iniquity thereof God can not possibly doe Therefore it is a godlesse and lying wickednesse The Minor proued If God by an oth of promising saluation in Christ could vse your aequiuocation then should the Elect of God not haue any strong consolation when God by word or oath he promiseth life and though his spirit witnesseth to the spirits of his Elect that they are the sonnes of God and that they shall no perish yet might they suspect which blasphemie farre be it from the hearts of his Regenerate that it is spoken with some secret reserued clause of delusion But let God be true and euery especially aequiuocating man a liar as it is written for he who is Trueth will be iustified when this sect continuing in this sinne must necessarily be condemned The principall subiect of lying is the Diuell Because when the voice of the Almighty had denounced death to the Transgressours saying Eating of this fruit ye shall die the Diuell in his instrument contradicting that trueth sayd You shall not die at all he is therefore truely called A liar from the beginning From whence we may argue thus Maior That can not be a doctrine of trueth which stoppeth a mans mouth that he can not giue the Diuell the lie Minor But admitting your aequiuocation all mankinde is silenced as not able to giue the Diuell his due title of a Liar Ergo aequiuocating is no doctrine of trueth The Minor proued For Eue who was catechized in this trueth God sayd that if we eat we shall die and hearing the Diuels contrary suggestion Though you eat you shall not die might she not say to the serpent Spirit thou liest If she might not then is that no lying spirit which is father of all lies if she might then is your close aequiuocating a lie Otherwise the Diuell might haue freed himselfe as you do saying I sayd truely for I did aequiuocate The Minor confirmed Though the Diuell haue plunged himselfe in Abyssum the bottomlesse gulfe of wickednesse as to do wickedly for loue of wickednesse Yet is there not the most desperate sinner amongst men but if he could he had rather by honest than by wicked meanes atchieue whatsoeuer his wicked heart lusteth after We will borrow of you an example The late intended conspiracie which as you confesse was so hainous an impiety that God and heauen condemne it men and earth detest it Now then what wickednesse vnder heauen would not these Conspirators haue attempted which haue beene found guilty of so damnable a mischiefe Yet am I persuaded that for aduancement of their Religion they would neuer haue practised by powder if they could haue preuailed with paper All which I produce to this end to let you vnderstand that if mentall aequiuocation were lawfull and did qualifie a false speech to free it from a lie no man instructed in that Art would or could lie and so we should seeme to liue in an Outopia where men shall be conuicted of most manifest aequiuocating falshood only he shall be the liar that giueth the conuicted the lie CHAP. VII The sixt Argument from examples of dissimulation condemned by 1. Scriptures 2. Fathers 3. Pagans 1. Scripture ACts 5. 1. Ananias with Saphira his wife solde a possession and kept backe part of the price his wife being of counsell with him and the other part he brought and layd it downe at the Apostles feet Then sayd Peter Why hath Satan filled thine heart that thou should'st lie thou hast not lied vnto men but vnto God When Ananias heard these words he fell downe and gaue vp the ghost After this came in his wife ignorant of that which was done and Peter sayd vnto her Tell me Sold you the land for so much and she sayd Yea for so much and Peter sayd Why haue you agreed together to tempt the spirit of the Lord and she fell downe and yeelded vp the ghost These pretended to bring all their substance and to tender it to the Apostles for the common good of the Saints an act proper to the infancy of the Church but they reserued one halfe for supply of their peculiar vses if happily they might