as either concerne the ciuill Magistrate to inflict temporally here or such meant as God will inflict eternally in another world but these are not punishable by the Magistrate in these cases for we finde not in Scripture any Law of Moses for Magistrates to call men into iudgement for vnaduised anger or to a Councill or to burne men for calling one Racha or Foole proceeding no further Therefore the punishments are meant such as God will inflict eternally in the life to come If so then I answer Fourthly that Iudgement Councill and hell fire are the degrees of Gods punishment vpon the wicked in hell Fifthly and lastly whereas by the translation hell fire is giuen to the third and not to the other two they would by the other vnderstand onely temporall punishments and by this eternall they are greatly deceiued or would deceiue or do both First for that these kinds of sinnes here expressed will not admit this distinction there being no such great difference betweene the sinnes as that the former should deserue but onely temporal punishments in this world or as they dreame in Purgatory and the other eternall in hell Secondly because the words in all the punishments are first to be conceiued and taken according to the proceeding after the accustomed forme of ciuill iudgements among the Iewes for some punishment was inflicted according to the sentence of the lowest Court here vnderstood by iudgement like to our petty Sessions Some according to the sentence of a higher Court their Sanhedrin consisting of three and twenty Elders like to our Quarter Sessions and some according to the sentence of the highest Court the great Councill at Ierusalem consisting of seuentie Elders like to our great Assizes whose sentence was inflicted vpon the presumptuous and greatest offendors Deut. 17. 12. worthy of the place named Gehenna which was also called Topheth in the valley of the children of Hinnom in the Suburbs of Ierusalem where Idolaters made their children to passe thorow the fire to the Idol Molech 2. King 23. 10. 2. Chron. 28. 3. Ier. 7. 31 32. which places Iosias defiled with filth in detestation thereof and became to be for such execrable Idolatry most accursed and so detestable as that for such as were worthy the greatest torments Topheth was said to bee prepared Esai 30. 33. Whereupon it came to be at length taken for Hell fire the place of the damned as here in Matth. 5. 29 30. and 10. 28. and 18. 9. and 23. 25 33. Iam. 3. 6. but here first taken properly as the other two are before and then applyed vnto Gods inflicting punishment as if it had been said As you Iewes here in your countrey doe make difference of offences and so haue differing degrees of punishing with death according to your seuerall Courts So after this life God accordingly in Hell hath degrees of punishment for differing sinnes which here men doe commit Thus standeth the similitude Else it were absurd as Papists make it to be partly of temporall and partly of eternall punishment for as there bee three degrees of sinne bad worse and worst of all and three degrees of punishment with death by hanging stoning and burning first by iudgement which is great then by Councill which is greater and lastly by highest Court as with Gehenna the greatest of all so is it with God in punishing the wicked with seuerall degrees of punishments after death Matth. 23. 24. Blinde guides that straine at a Gnat and swallow a Cammell Here is sinne compared one to a Gnat and another to a Cammell so in Luk. 6. 41. one to a moate and another to a beame Answ The places shew that all sinnes are not equall but some farre greater then other-some which we beleeue teach But they proue not that therefore some onely deserue eternall death and the other only temporall and not eternall For all sin bee it as a Gnat or a moate deserues in it owne nature death eternall as well as the sinne which is as a Cammell or as a Beame as before is proued Luk. 12. 59. Thou shalt not goe out thence till thou hast paid the very last mite This mite is veniall sinne say they Answ 1. The place is allegorically interpreted and therefore from the bare words is no sound proofe Secondly the absurditie and falshood of such an exposition is before confuted out of Matth. 5. 25 26. where it is alledged for Purgatorie in which place onely veniall sinnes are payed for compared to farthings and mites But what is this last mite a mite of Is it of a summe which consists all of mites or else of other moneys and of greater summes To affirme it a summe of all mites were but an idle dreame and if it consists of greater summes then is the party cast into prison for these also Then the Allegorie vrged to maintaine Purgatorie makes it a place to satisfie both for mortall and veniall sinnes which our Aduersaries deny 1. Cor. 3. 12. Where by Wood Hay and Stubble are meant veniall sinnes Answ 1. It hath beene alledged before for Purgatorie and there answered at full But here yet further I answer Secondly that the Apostle speaketh here of vnwholsome and vnprofitable Doctrines And are these veniall sinnes Is errour in Doctrine not a sinne in its owne nature Is it not worthy of death to mis-lead by impure preaching and to breed errours in mens minds He is cursed with Amen that makes the blind goe out Deut. 27. 18. of their way Iam. 7. 14. Euery one is tempted of his owne concupiscence drawne and enticed then when lust hath conceiued it bringeth forth sinne and sinne when it is finished bringeth forth death Where they make some motions no sinnes some sinnes but not deadly and other-some deadly Answ Here is no distinction of sinnes in their natures but a genealogie of sinne from the mother concupiscence and the deserued reward thereof in the end which is death Here is no veniall sinne For first death is due to the mother lust which lust is sinne Rom. 7. and worthy of death Rom. 5. Secondly he speakes here of sinne singularly the fruit of lust conceiued brought forth and ripened as of one and the same sinne growing to the full height and not of diuers kinds of sinnes differing in nature Thirdly when Iames saith that lust brings forth sinne it is not by calling the fruit thereof sinne to cleere lust from being sinne for Saint Paul calleth it sinne Rom. 7. and what is it that naturally brings forth sinne that in it selfe is not sinne but it is to distinguish naturall corruption from actuall transgression Fourthly death is put in the last place for sinne consummate and not that lust is not worthy of death nor the sinne which floweth thence but to shew whereto our owne corrupt nature drawne and entised will at length bring vs by sinning euen vnto death if it bee not mortified And therefore this text is nothing for the proofe of their vntrue
of Rome Papists for their Pope and Romanists from their City but they themselues vsurped the name of Catholikes They call vs Lutherans and Caluinists but we make none saue only Christ the autor of our faith commonly we are called Protestants because we continue our protestation against the enemies and abominations of the Romish Church Such a Church thus taken in this generall manner professing Christ vnder one name or other hath euer bene visible euen to the world Thus we teach that the Church is euer visible one where or other and neuer wholy hidden at any time But here in the question the name Church we take more strictly for a companie wheresoeuer assembled in publique together worshipping the true God in Iesus Christ as God himselfe onely hath prescribed by his Word whereto outwardly they professe conformitie both for doctrine and conuersation also in good measure This true Church of God we say is visible First in respect that it consists of men making open profession Secondly in respect of the place being publique where such obtaine liberty to meete together Thirdly in respect of the externall actions in and about the worship of God Thus this Church is visible but not alike gloriously coÌ„spicuous at al times in euery place where God planteth it This Church we affirm not to be at any time inuisible but we only say it is sometime hidden neither yet do we meane hereby that it is so hidden as not to be found any where of theÌ„ that seeke after it by due means as if it were vtterly extinguished nor so hidden as not to be seene of any in any place for such a hiding we neuer dreame of as our Aduersaries interpret falsely against vs but when we say it is hidden we meane that it is not acknowledged but contemned by the euill ones which loue not the truth by reason of the fewnes of the followers Mat. 10. 23. and 23 34. Heb. 11. 38. Act. 1. 13. and 12. 12 and 20. 7 8. thereof and their secret meetings in time of persecution and their decay of outward gouernment and publique exercises in open places For these reasons she is said to be hidden and this hidden estate of the Church commeth to passe 1. For that she consisteth of a mixt companie the worser sort sometime and for a long time comming to be the greater and a preuailing faction 2. As they preuaile so they diminish the number weaken the credit of those professing the truth and do bring cunningly their owne will their owne inuentions and wayes into estimation with the worldly minded 3. This preuailing faction and greater number increasing engrosse and arrogate to themselues the name of the Church and so encroach vpon credit to their owne deuices as vaunting to be the onely true Church and their profession and practice the onely true and sound Religion 4. Hereupon they condemne the other as Schismatiques and Hereticks and their way as heresie and so raise vp against them persecution inhibiting their meetings in publique scattering their Assemblies punishing their Teachers and making them to be generally euill spoken of and putting by-names vpon them full of reproach to cause theÌ„ to be the more detested of the worst and distasted of indifferent minds by forging many lies and falsities vpon them both in life and doctrine 5. By this it commeth to passe that now they are glad to flie away to hide themselues to meete in secret places where they may with any safetie come together till God raise such as be in authoritie to afford them publique meetings againe In the meane space they are as it were hidden and this is all we meane when we speake of the hidden Church which is not so hidden but that the members of her are seene one to another See D Whites te aâ—d cable obâ—eruatiâ—ns of the Church i◠〈◊〉 Reply to Fisher pag. 51. and do often meete together yea some of them are espied by this preuailing faction sometime whom they cruelly persecute and put to death if they do not recant and turne to them Their assertion that the Church hath beene euer to the world gloriously visible is most false Confuted by their owne Bible 1. By Propheticall speeches foretelling that the Church shall lose her glorious conspicuousnesse to the world 1. Chr. 15. 3. And many dayes shall passe in Israel without the true God and without Priest and Teachers and without the Law Osea 3. 4. Many dayes shall the children of Israel sit without King without Priest without Sacrifice without Altar and without Ephod and Teraphim See also Mich. 3. 6 7. and in Mat. 24. 24. Christ foretelleth that false Christs and false prophets shall arise and so farre seduce as to deceiue the verie elect if it were possible which could not be if the true Church should be euer gloriously conspicuous S. Paul 2. Thess 2. 3 4. telleth vs of such a reuolt as Antichrist shall be exalted and sit in the Temple of God And S. Iohn in the Reuelation Chap. 9. 2. telleth of such a darknesse that should obscure the Sunne and Aire of such an oppression of the Church as she should be trodden vnder foote Chap. 11. 2. of such a persecution as she should be glad to fly into the wildernesse Chap. 12. 6. and lastly of such a preuailing of the Beast that enemie as the whole earth should adore and follow after him Chap. 13. 7 8. Which Word of God must needs be true And therefore the Church is not euer gloriously conspicuous to the world as an earthly Monarchy or estate 2. By Historicall narration 2. Chron. 15. 3. Heb. 11. 37 38. Iudg. 6. 2. in the kingdom of Iudah in Ahaz his dayes in the dayes of Manasses his reuolt from God for then was there no glorious conspicuitie of the Church any where What a low ebbe was Gods Church come to in Israel in Eliah his dayes About the time of Christs suffering what glorious face of the true Church weâ— there then Christ was condemned the Apostles were sted 〈◊〉 scattered Peter forswore Christ Was heere a glorious true Church in the eye of the world We see then the Church hath not euer beene in a pompous visibilitie Contraried by Antiquitie S. Augustine Epist. 80. ad Hesych towards the end and Epist. 48. ad Vincent saith When the Sunne shall be darkened and the Moone shall not giue her light and the Starres shall fall from heauen as is prophesied Reuel 6. and 9. 1. then the Church shall not appeare for that then the vngodly persecutors See more of this his opinion in Enarrat in Psal 10. de bapt also contra Donat. lib. 6. cap. 4. shall rage out of measure S. Chrysostome on Mat. Hom. 49. saith that since the time that Heresies inuaded the Church it can no wayes be knowne which is the true Church of Christ but by the Scriptures onely in this confusion it can no otherwaies else be knowne This sheweth then that the true Church of
Augustine speakes Secondly as Lyra thinkes it is so called for that the Church doth maintaine the truth of the Gospell euen in the greatest persecutions and as other iudge for that it vpholdeth the truth that it may not fall to the ground though it be afflicted and because by words and examples it confirmes our Faith Thirdly the Apostle speakes according to the vse of pillars in old time among the Gentiles on which their Lawes written in Tables were hanged vp for people to reade yea some wrote the Lawes vpon pillars themselues So as the Church here is resembled to those pillars which hath the Bookes of holy Lawes to shew them and to vphold them and to exhibite them out vnto all to bee seene and read Secondly because Saint Peter was counted a Pillar Gal. 2 9. and yet he erred euen in not walking according to the truth of the Gospell vers 14. Thirdly because Saint Paul calleth so the Church at Ephesus then as she was and so long to be so esteemed as she should continue Thus Saint Paul to the Hebrewes telleth them that they with himselfe and others are the House of Christ if saith he we hold fast the confidence and the reioycing of the hope firme vnto the end implying that if they did not they should not be so Can any well conclude from that which one is at the present that he shall euer be the same Then had not our first Parents fallen nor Salomon been an Idolater nor the Israelites now none of Gods people nor Rome as she is spirituall Babylon Fourthly because not the name and title of the House of God it self by which name the Church is called here in 1. Tim. 3. 15. as also beleeuers are called by the name of the houshold of God Ephes 2. 19. will afford this their conclusion For the Church of Ephesus so called did erre Now may it not be inferred from hence that she is called the House and beleeuers the Houshold and may it be inferred because she is called a pillar only or stay to vphold the house Will not the whole house nor the household yeeld it And will a pillar or prop make it good Very vnlikely Fifthly it is onely vpon the praise giuen to the Church that this conclusion is made Is this then good arguing Whatsoeuer prayses the Church hath that for which or wherein shee is praysed she hath it in perfection Here she is called the pillar and ground of truth Ergo say they she cannot erre See the like reasoning She is the houshold of Faith Gal. 6. 10. Ergo she neuer hath any doubting Yet this they deny and hold here to haue no certaine assurance Lastly consider the truth of which shee is the pillar and ground * On this place Ioh. 5. 23 Oecumenius vnderstands it in opposition to the shaddowes in the Temple vnder the Law there the type here the truth there the shadow here the substance But the Temple was onely the pillar and ground that is the appointed place where the knowledge and vse of the Ceremoniall Law was had and vpheld so onely is now the Church the place where the diuine truth is to be found and is in practice and no where else Truth in Scripture is taken for the Word of God Ioh. 17. 17. and 8. 31 32. the Gospell the Word of truth Col. 1. 5. Gal. 5. 7. euen the Mystery of godlinesse as Saint Paul in this place of the 1. Tim. 3. 16. enterpreteth the Word Truth So then the Church of God is the pillar and ground or stay of Gods Word and his Gospell euen the mysterie of godlinesse This she receiueth keepeth beareth vp publisheth to the world and is the ground whereon it doth rest and no where else in the world What then Is she or it the Rule Is her authoritie aboue it or it aboue her The King committeth to some the publike Records to keepe and to publish to other Is their authoritie greater then these Are their words of force without the warrant of those Records Or is it not possible for these keepers of them to erre in their proceedings We know the contrary The Iewes had the Oracles of God committed to them Rom. 3. 2. but haue not they erred The Church of Corinth Ephesus Galatia Philippi Colosse Thessalonica Hebrewes and other Churches in the East had the new Testament committed to them yet haue they we see erred So hath the Church of Rome very shamefully as the Epistle written to them doth testifie if her now new doctrine be examined by it The Church therefore the visible mixt company of whom all our dispute is may erre XIII Proposition That the Church of Rome cannot erre Confuted by their owne Bible I. IN it we reade that shee is in particular forewarned to take heed of falling Rom. 11. 20. which admonition proueth her possibilitie of erring II. It foretelleth of her Apostasie Yea this Church which See his Maiesties broke and Bishop Downham de Antichristo Respons eius ad â—essiam de Anticâ—r they say cannot erre and whereof the Pope is Head is called the great Whore named Babylon drunken with the Saints blood sitting vpon the Beast with seuen heads hauing ten hornes expounded by their owne Bible to be Rome Reuel 17. 1. 5 6. the great Citie situate vpon seuen Hills and which in Iohns dayes reigned ouer the Kings of the earth vers 9 18. III. Their Bible telleth vs that there were begun in her vncharitable disputations about eating and not eating of some things about obseruation of dayes Rom. 14. men for these things condemning and despising one another There were such then as were authors of diuisions and scandals contrary to the doctrine which the Saints then had learned Rom. 16. 17. so that a defection was then breeding and a beginning to erre from the Apostles doctrine in his dayes IV. The Epistle of Saint Paul written vnto them sheweth that she hath erred for his and her doctrine are at odds in many things as for example in these for instance The Romish Church Saint Paul She calleth not her selfe A Church but The Church and is euer boasting of that name Hee neuer calleth them at Rome then The Church as in other Epistles he vseth to call others the Corinthians Galatians Ephesians Reuel 2. 1. c. a point for Papists to note and to obserue why this title is not giuen her She saith that God may be represented like an old man He teacheth it to be a Heathenish practice for which God plagued them Rom. 1. 23. She teacheth that all sins deserue not death but in themselues many are veniall He nameth 23. sinnes Rom. 1. 29 30 31. worthy of death not for the Act but for the consent of heart vers 32. and Rom. 6. 23. He saith that the stipend of sinne is death he excepteth none She teacheth that the Virgin Marie was without sinne He teacheth otherwise All to be vnder sinne Rom. 3. 9. All to haue
Answ 1. Howsoeuer the profound wisedome of the Gagger makes this euident yet Bellarmine graunts it to bee a darke Scripture and there indeed is not a more obscure text wherein most Expositors are to seeke and hardly can finde to giue themselues satisfaction herein And therefore being in sense darke and doubtfull is not a sufficient proofe in a Controuersie Secondly this so euident a place with the Gagger for Purgatorie the Rhemists could not see to note it nor Lyra nor Thomas nor Hugo de Sancto Charo a Cardinall nor their Glosse nor Caietan much lesse Saint Chrysostome nor Ambrose nor Haymo nor other moe some expounding it one way some another but not of Purgatorie nor of any such thing as may iustly inferre Purgatorie Thirdly the scope of the place is to proue the Resurrection of the dead and not Purgatorie for it is said If the dead rise not at all why are they baptized for the dead Now for them to expound baptized afflicted and afflicted to signifie fasting and praying for the dead and that for those in Purgatorie it is farre from prouing the Apostles scope and the Resurrection from the dead Fourthly whatsoeuer the sense of baptized for the dead may be First it is cleare that here by dead is vnderstood the dead in graue whose bodies were to rise againe and not of soules in Purgatorie Secondly if baptisme here should be afflicting yet to bee baptized for the dead is to bee taken not actiuely for such as baptize that is as our Aduersaries here expound doe afflict themselues but passiuely for such to be afflicted by other Thirdly this reason which the Apostle vseth seemeth to be such a thing as was well knowne and so forcible to perswade to beleeue the Resurrection as the same words are in this one verse twice mentioned But how can our Aduersaries proue that men to afflict themselues by fasting prayer for the dead was so well knowne and practised then in the Church And yet if so how proueth it the Apostles Doctrine touching the Resurrection of the dead and the bodies of men to rise out of the graue or that therefore there is a Purgatorie For the Beleeuers mourned for Steuen and made great lamentation ouer him Act. 8. 2. yet proueth it not a Purgatorie nor that Steuen was in it being a Martyr and the first of all other These three things let the Gagger proue before he build his paper Purgatorie on this Text. Fiftly the words for the dead may bee expounded for the hope of the Resurrection of the dead and the word baptized for afflicted and so the words may bee thus read Else what shall they doe which suffer and endure troubles in hope of the Resurrection of the dead if so be the dead doe not rise at all why are they then afflicted for this hope of the dead to rise againe Thus interpreted it is current enough agreeable to the scope and the next verses 30 31 32. seeme to me to confirme this exposition For the Apostle hauing said Why are they baptized forth with he saith Why stand wee in ieopardie euery houre then he telleth of his dying dayly and of his fighting with beasts at Ephesus and all vpon the hope of the Resurrection professing all to be in vaine no aduantage to him if the dead rise not at all So as here the Apostle expoundeth the word baptized to be all one with to stand in ieopardie to dye dayly and to fight with beasts and the words for the dead his certaine hope of their rising againe which aduantageth him in enduring such troubles and afflictions else it were no matter to liue like Epicures and then say Let vs eate and drinke for to morrow we shall dye Thus this place vnderstood remoueth obscuritie agreeth with the scope hath warrant from the stile of the Apostle is a strong reason to perswade that the dead shall rise againe and may satisfie the minde of him that seekes resolution in so manifold varieties of expositions as haue been hitherto made vpon this place Luk. 16. 9. Make you friends of the vnrighteous Mammon that when you shallneed they may receiue you into the euerlasting habitations Answ 1. The Rhemists looking on this place found no Purgatorie but that Saints departed doe pray for vs. Which what is it to Purgatorie Secondly by they is to hee vnderstood the Angels by the euerlasting habitations meant Heauen How the Gagger could picke out Purgatorie hence I see not Surely hee had a great blazing Torch bigger then all Purgatorie fire else could hee not haue seene Purgatorie thorow this darke creuise Luk. 23. 42. Lord remember mee when thou commest into thy Kingdome Hence saith he the good thiefe presupposed that soules might be holpen after death Answ 1. What then Ergo a Purgatorie Proue this For soules are holpen after death when by the holy Angels they are carried into Abrahams bosome Luk. 16. 22. Secondly the good Thiefe prayeth here to Christ for saluation by him as now he was in the world and ready to die and not through feare of Purgatorie to bee deliuered out of it The Gagger must proue that he beleeued a Purgatorie Thirdly Christs answer cleereth this for hee said This day shalt thou bee with mee in Paradise Christ vnderstood him to pray to goe to heauen and not to bee holpen in Purgatorie and therefore promiseth him Heauen that day whither he himselfe went 2. Machab. 12. 46. It is therefore an holy and healthfull cogitation This is as it is in their Bible to pray for the dead that they may bee loosed from sinnes Answ 1. This booke is Apocryphal and so of no force to perswade in a doubted point of faith Secondly here is no word of Purgatorie though we should admit of the place Thirdly in this Verse see Montanus his Bible there is in the originall no mention of praying for the dead but of making reconciliation Fourthly but to yeeld the translation What then Praying for the dead proueth not Purgatorie For the Greekes pray for the dead and yet beleeue no Purgatorie Fiftly they prayed here for the pardon of sinnes and not for freedome out of Purgatorie Sixtly the parties here prayed for dyed in mortall sinne and were guilty of horrible idolatry forbidden by the Law ver 40. but such as so dye goe not to Purgatorie it is a place for veniall and not for mortall sinners as they teach Seuenthly the mouing cause of their praying and making an offering to send to Ierusalem for a sinne-offering was for that they were mindfull of the Resurrection verse 44. and not that they thought these men to be in Purgatorie This rests to be proued Eighthly and lastly it is cleere that the Author of this booke did not dreame of any Purgatorie For hee maketh the ground of praying for the dead onely the hope of the Resurrection affirming the act otherwise to be superfluous vaine verse 44. Tobie 4. 18. Set thy bread and thy wine vpon
And they are ministring spirits for the good of those that bee heires of saluation Heb. 2. 14. and not Gaolers to cast the godly into fierie torments As the Iudge is lost in this Allegorie so the Officer or Gaoler for this Purgatorie prison cannot be found VI. And thou be cast into prison Here is the punishment for non-agreement This prison say they is Purgatorie but that cannot be First because in the whole New Testament it is taken either properly for a place for Malefactors here Act. 12. or else for hell 1. Pet. 3. 10. Reu. 20. 7. No where for Purgatorie Secondly they that goe to Purgatorie are the Penitent say they but the offending partie cast into this prison is one that will not agree with his Aduersarie but forceth him to shew extremitie and so is he obstinate Thirdly this partie is iniurious to God in making him an Aduersarie in obstinate persisting and he is much offended in that hee causeth him to bee cast into prison an act expressing anger Math. 25. 30. Now say they obstinate offenders sinne not venially neither is veniall sinne iniurious to God as they say Therefore this prison cannot be Purgatorie into which such an offender is cast VII Thou shalt not come out thence till thou hast paid the vtmost farthing These words shew that this prison cannot bee Purgatorie For till here is neuer as in other Scriptures Math. 1. 25. Numb 20. 17. Psal 110. 1. Luk. 22. 16 18. 1. Sam. 15. 35. Till thou hast paid imply not that the man can pay or that lying in prison he doth pay as our Aduersaries dreame For going into prison argueth inabilitie to pay Mat. 18. and lying in prison is no payment but rather a punishment for not paying As for these words the vtmost farthing argue not as foolishly our Aduersaries doe imagine that the party lyeth here onely for farthings to which they compare veniall sinnes as if he had made payment of greater summes but had not satisfied for farthings when here is no mention of paying any part of the debt greater or lesser and the vtmost farthing is named not to imply paiment of any part or to make a difference of lesser moneys from greater summes or as they speake of veniall sins from mortall but to shew the extremitie whereto the debter shall be brought before he be freed from prison Here is nothing then for venial sinues more then to imagine that this debter ought a summe of money all of farthings onely or that hee had agreed with his Aduersarie for pounds shillings and pence but now would bee so froward as to stand out for farthings and for these to be cast into prison of which to any reasonable man there is no likelihood Thus we see how in all the words the Allegorie to proue their Purgatory is wholly ouerthrowne so as this place must needs bee taken properly and nothing at all serues for their purpose 2. Tim. 1. 18. The Lord grant vnto him that he may find mercie of the Lord in that Day Answ The Gagger citeth this for Purgatorie but how hee can hence proue it I see not In that Day is the last Day And must an Onesiphorus a man of such rare mercies goe to Purgatorie 1. Ioh. 5. 16. If any man see his brother sinne a sinne not vnto death he shall aske c. Answ Here is no word of Purgatorie but mention of some sinne to death and other some not to death as are the sinnes of infirmitie committed by Gods Elect. What is this to proue a Purgatorie Thus much for the obiected Scriptures in defence of their ignis fatuus as one well calleth it XXVIII Proposition That good workes doe merit and are the cause of our saluation Confuted by their owne Bible I. IT concludeth all euen the best that euer were vnder sinne 1. Ioh. 1. 8 10. If we say we haue no sinne wee deceiue our selues Iohn includes himselfe Rom. 3. 23. All haue sinned Esai 53. 6. All we like sheepe haue gone astray on him is the iniquitie of vs all 1. King 8. 46. There is no man that sinneth not Iam. 3. 2. In many things we offend all Iames includes himselfe and all to whom he wrote this generall Epistle Pro. 20. 9. Who can say My heart is cleane I am pure from sinne None but Iesus Christ onely and he alone Hebr. 4. 15. 1. Ioh. 3. 5. 1. Pet. 2. 22. 2. Cor. 5. 21. Therefore where sinne is there is a staine of all our actions and so cannot bee meritorious or cause of saluation Secondly it teacheth vs that we are like a dead man in sinnes Ephes 2. 1 5. Col. 2. 13. so as our wils are not to doe good till God make vs willing as in the next Proposition I shall fully shew Now where man 's owne will is wanting till by another it be made willing his workes cannot merit For a meritorious worke must come of mans free-will Thirdly it teacheth that all our goodnesse without vs and within vs is of Gods grace By the grace of God I am that I am saith the Apostle 1. Cor. 15. 10. It is of his goodnesse Rom. 11. 22. of his benignitie and kindnesse Tit. 3. 4. and of his good will Phil. 2. 13. 2. Tim. 1. 12. that we are conuerted Now if all that which we doe either doing good workes or suffering for his name 1. Chron. 29. 12 14 16. Phil. 2. 29. be of God and that of his meere grace mercy benignitie and good will how can man doe a good worke to merit at Gods hands For a worke that merits must be our owne but what haue we that we haue not receiued 1. Cor. 4. 7 Who hath first giuen to him then retribution shall be made of him Rom. 11. 35 In the meane space we doe giue to God onely of his owne 1. Cor. 29. 12 14 16. Deut. 8. 18. And profit we him any thing thereby He is not the better by vs Psal 16. 2. What hee willeth vs to doe is not for his good but for our owne that hee in mercy might doe vs good Deut. 5. 29. Fourthly it teacheth vs that though we in state of grace be thus furnished of God and hereby made willing and able to doe that which is good and well-pleasing through Christ in his sight yet are we not in this life able perfectly to fulfill the Law of God Adam once could in heauen hereafter we may but here it is not possible For in Eccl. 7. 21. it is said There is no iust man in the earth that doth good and sinneth not All the examples of the godly witnesse the truth hereof and euery mans owne experience and euery mans owne conscience if it bee not dead or seared For the obedience required is not onely externall but spirituall and internall also and this absolutely in all perfection to be performed to all the commandements generally to euery commandement particularly to euery branch of euery of them at all times without
any thing vnto God Psal 16. 2. XII It teacheth that no man can merit of God by doing that which he ought to doe but rather when wee haue done all things that are commanded to iudge our selues vnprofitable seruants Luk. 17. 10. But whatsoeuer we doe in obedience to God the same we ought to doe and that with all our minde heart soule and strength Matth. 22. and therefore cannot merit by dutie no more then a man can merit by paying his debts This it is which made Saint Paul to say that he had nothing to glory of when he did but his duty 1. Cor. 9. 16. Lastly it is altogether needlesse to conceit of merit For what would we merit Is it pardon of sinne or fauour of God or life euerlasting life and heauen it selfe Then these need not bee merited For first Christ hath by his bloud cleansed vs of all our sinnes 1. Ioh. 1. 7. God through him hath pardoned all offences Col. 2. 13. Ephes 1. 7. Act. 13. 38. and so are wee healed 1. Pet. 2. 24. Secondly Christ hath reconciled vs to God Rom. 5. 10 11. and so haue we peace with him through Christ Rom. 5. 1. Thirdly Christ hath gotten vs full assurance of Heauen by the surest way that may be for it is ours both by purchase Heb. 9. 12. by donation Ioh. 10. 28. and also by inheritance Rom. 8. 17. Gal. 4. 7. and 3. 29. So as our obedience and seruice and works are done not to merit eternall life but rather to expresse our thankefulnesse for those things which he hath done for vs. It is with vs as with a man once very rich and wealthy vnder Simile a great Landlord whose Tenant 1. hath runne himselfe out of all and turned Bankerupt 2. is become infinitely in debt and not able to pay 3. is at last cast into prison there to lye and dye for any meanes possible either by himselfe or any of his friends to set him free Now the sonne of this his great Landlord is so exceeding full of compassion and loue that of meere pitty without any suite or desert of the partie imprisoned First goeth and payeth all the debt to the vtmost farthing satisfying all to the full so freeth him of his imprisonment Secondly then he purchaseth again his Lands and redeemeth them for the poore Tenants vse and benefit as before and maketh them sure to him againe by word and writing sealed and deliuered before witnesses Thirdly he furnisheth him with moneyes to set him on worke and to manage this his estate as long as hee liueth So as he becommeth hereby rich Now what is this man to doe with these his moneys and with honest increase thereof Is he to pay his debts therewith They bee paid already Is he to purchase his Lands againe to redeeme them therewith They are purchased to his hand What is hee then to doe By the Law of gratitude hee is onely to expresse his thankefulnesse by shewing himselfe obliged to him in all seruiceable duties for euer to loue him vnfeinedly feare to offend him at any time and to be euer ready at his command and not like a proud arrogant dotard to endeuour with this his friends moneys to make needlesse payments purchases as if he scorned to be beholding to such a friend as had done already all these things for him This tenant is Adam and his posteritie Application who lost Paradise and all his right of heauen and earth and by his sinnes to God became infinitely indebted and so is cast into the kingdome of darknesse vnrecouerably in respect of any power of any naturall man to redeeme him But Christ Iesus he comes by his death payes his debts by his obedience purchaseth him the right of heauen and earth againe This he assureth him of by his word writing the couenant in his heart then giueth he him his Spirit the seale of that inheritance and so thereupon the comfort of conscience to be witnes thereto Then doth he bestow vpon him manifold gifts and graces to adorne his profession to glorifie Christ and to allure other to his seruice to stop the mouthes of wicked blasphemers to inable him the better to doe Christs seruice and to shew himselfe thankful not to striue vaine-gloriously to make himselfe copurchaser with Christ and that not with any thing of his owne but with Christs owne gifts and graces These former ends we Protestants onely ayme at and doe rest with our Lord and Sauiours purchase most thankefully This latter the proud Pharisaicall Papists striue vnto as if Christs paiment and purchase were insufficient without their helpe and yet without Christs bounty are beggerly wretches This their pride ingratitude and derogation from Christs goodnesse towards them doe deserue damnation Contraried by Antiquitie Austin lib. de gra lib. arbit cap. 9. God bringeth vs to eternall life not for our merits but for his owne mercy Origen ad Rom. lib. 4. cap. 4. I hardly beleeue that there is any worke that may require the reward of debt Because this is lately handled out of the Fathers he that desires any more let him reade Bishop Vshers last booke touching merits who citeth Saint Austin Ambrose Origen Hillary Basil Chrysostome Theodoret Cyril of Alexandria Prosper Ennodius Fulgentius Eusebius Emissen Agapetus Bernard and diuers others moe Reade also Doctor White his last Book against Fisher of this Controuersie pag. 510. Gainsaid by themselues In the Canon of the Masse the Priest makes his prayer thus Receiue vs into the fellowship of thy Saints not weighing our merits but granting vs pardon by Iesus Christ our Lord. Here is renouncing merit and appealing to mercy through Christ Saint Gregory on Psal 7. poenit It is one thing for God to reward men according to their workes and another for the workes themselues and hee alledgeth the Apostles saying The suffering of this life is not worthy of the glory of the life to come Our Aduersaries grant that the children which goe to heauen goe thither without merit by the vertue of the free Adoption by Iesus Christ Now the meanes of saluation in Christ is one and not diuers in respect of the persons saued for one sort to be saued without and another by merits as if Christ were not alike sufficient for both or that there were any other ground of saluation then the free election of grace Ephes 1. 4 5. Rom. 11. 5 6. Act. 13. 48. See the forenamed D. White against the merit of condignitie citing Gregory Arimine Durand Marsilius Waldensis Burgensis Digres 3 5. Sec. 15. Eckius with others Also his Brother D. Whites way of the true Church producing some of these and withall citing Ferus Bellarmine Stella his prayer on Luke chap. 7. and Anselmes prayer taught the people renouncing and plainely denying their owne merits and resting on Christs merits and his blessed death and Passion onely Scriptures obiected answered Matth. 16. 27. Hee shall reward euery man
cont Pelag. cap. 25. God doth not onely helpe vs to be able to worke but worketh in vs to will and to worke and in cap. 17. he saith that God without vs doth worke in vs to will and in Epist. 107. It is God who by his secret calling worketh the minde of man to giue consent Prosper de vocat Gent. cap. 6. The turning of the heart vnto God is of God alledging the place of Ieremie 24. 7. Fulgent ad Monimum lib. 1. Both our good will and also our good workes are of God And againe this Father saith We in no wise suffer nay according to wholesome Doctrine we forbid whether in our faith or in our workes to challenge to our selues any thing as our owne S. Bernard de gra lib. arb The creating of vs to freedome of will is wrought without vs. The Arausicane Councill 2. cap. 4. determineth that if any doe maintaine that God expecteth our will that wee may be purged from sinne and doth not confesse that by the infusion and operation of the holy Ghost it is also wrought in vs to be willing to bee purged hee resists the Apostles Doctrine who saith that it is of God that worketh in vs both the will and the deed Bishop Vsher lately handling this point citeth Austin and Fulgentius Prosper Ierome and others to whose learned Tract I referre the Reader Gainesaid by their owne men Bayus de vit imp cap. 8. Free-will without Gods helpe is of power to doe nothing but sinne The Master of the Sentences lib. 2. D. 25. saith that Free-will before Grace repaire it is pressed and ouercome with concupiscence and hath weakenesse in euill but no grace in good and therefore may sinne and cannot but sinne euen damnably Cornelius Mus Concion tom 1. pag. 252. Our strength is not sufficient to bring vs backe from death wee cannot be conuerted and saued by our owne power The exciting grace which disposeth thee to thy conuersion God workes in thee without thee God so weth it in vs without vs. Alphonsus aduers haeres lib. 7. verbo gratia Our will when by Gods helpe it hath begunne to doe any good it cannot without the same speciall helpe prosecute the good begun nor perseuere in it Greg. Ariminensis 2. D. 26. pag. 95. without this speciall aide it can doe nothing Sec Bishop Vsher in his last booke citing Gelasius with a Synod of 70. Bishops at Rome the French Bishops in the second Councill at Orange Bradwardin the Archbishop of Canterbury Scriptures obiected answered 1. Cor. 7. 37. Hath power ouer his owne will c. Answ 1. This is nothing to the question in hand which is of free-will and power thereof in the first act of a sinners conuersion Secondly we grant that in such a case as this to wit to marry his Virgin or not to marry her man hath free-will that is power and right Ioh. 1. 11 12. Hee came in to his owne but his owne receiued him not but as many as receiued him c. Answ 1. In the former part is mans inabilitie to entertaine Christ they receiued him not they would not We grant mans free will to euill till God change it Secondly in the latter part it is said Many receiued him But it is not said By the power of their owne will Wee acknowledge that by Gods preuenting grace men may receiue Christ which here is to be vnderstood for they that receiued him did it by faith and are said to beleeue in him but the Apostle saith Faith is the gift of God Ephes 2. 8. and not in mans power Thirdly the very next verse following in this Chapter verse 13. cuts the nerues of the power of free-will in our new-birth For saith the text We are borne of God not of bloud nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man Deut. 30. 19. I haue set before thee life and death blessing and cursing therefore choose life Answ This and all other exhortations and commandements as Ios 24. 14 15. Deut. 10. 12. and 11. 16 18. Ephes 4. 22. Phil. 2. 12. and in many other places in Moses Psalmes Prophets and in the New Testament doe not conclude in man any naturall power of his owne will to chuse or refuse to obey or not to obey of his owne free will as our Aduersaries doe imagine no more then they can conclude the lame man in Act. 2. 2. so borne to bee able to rise and walke because Peter said to him Rise vp and walke verse 6. First because in none of the exhortations dehortations and commandements there is any mention of the power by which man comes to be able to performe that which hee is exhorted vnto Therefore the power is to bee gathered out of other Scriptures which is the power of Gods grace and not the power of mans freewill as all the Scriptures before alledged doe fully proue Secondly for that all those places doe no more but shew what duties man oweth to God but not what hee can doe of himselfe A Creditor demanding paiment of his Debter and exhorting him to pay doth not therefore imply necessarily that he is able to pay for he may perhaps for all that be altogether vnable to pay as wee may reade Matth. 18. 25. So these places shew what we owe and what God requireth but not that therefore we are able to pay what hee commandeth for all the Scriptures afore alledged deny it Thirdly all these commandements and exhortations are spoken to those in the Church which consists of a mixed company both of vnregenerate which are either abiects or elect of God till they be called as also of regenerate persons Now to the first sort God thus speakes shewing them what they could haue done for God commandeth nothing that hath beene is and shall bee euer impossible to man and what yet they ought to doe vpon perill of damnation but not what either they now can doe or shall hereafter be euer able to doe of themselues being dead in sinne and void of grace and God not bound to giue it them To the second sort the elect not yet borne a new by the Spirit God thus speakes to shew not onely what they could haue done once what now they ought to doe but also what by Gods preuenting grace they may bee able and shall doe For God vseth such meanes to conuert them vnto him at that time the day of their visitation being come inwardly by his Spirit and worketh their will to that which hee outwardly by word commandeth and exhorteth vnto Act. 2. 38 41. As Peters exhortation to the lame man by which God conueighed strength and power into the man to make him able to walke Act. 3. 6 7. This appeareth liuely in Ezek. 37. 7 10. To the third sort the already Regenerate who haue by Gods preuenting grace free will God thus speaketh as to them that can doe what he commandeth and exhorteth vnto He vseth threats to keepe them in
actions tending to pietie Or the places vrged are such as speake of mans free-will in spirituall actions and these may bee reduced to three heads First to those which perswade exhort and command men to turne and repent to doe good workes to beleeue loue and obey God To which a full answer is made before to Deut. 30. 19. Secondly to those which speake of men holpen by God in workes of pietie which are to be vnderstood of such as be holpen by Gods assisting grace who haue been prepared before by his preuenting grace Thirdly to those where men are said to be co-workers with God which must be vnderstood of them in whom God hath wrought both the will and deed first for so they worke and God also in them Phil. 2. 12 13. Through Christ saith the Apostle I can doe all things who strengtheneth mee Phil. 4. 13. I liue saith he and Christ in me So they liue together Gal. 2. 20. I labour saith he yet not I but the grace of God which was with me 2. Cor. 15. 10. He labours and grace assisteth him To all these places wee may answer generally thus First that wee doe acknowledge a freedome of will in spirituall things when God hath first wrought it in vs. Secondly that those places alledged of them speake of Gods commanding yea and commending of holy mens willingnesse prayers and holy words good workes but they doe not manifest by what power they so will so pray professe and practise and therefore doe not determine the question in hand Which other Scriptures cleerely doe for vs and against our Aduersaries XXX Proposition That some sinnes are in their owne nature veniall and doe not deserue eternall punishment TO cleere this point and to make their errour euident to all obserue what they hold to be veniall sinnes First all those sinnes and negligences into which through weakenesse vpon euery little occasion men euery houre do fall Secondly all the ill motions of the heart being without full deliberation and consent as the sudden passions of the minde concupiscence anger desire of reuenge and such like so vaine and idle thoughts Thirdly such words as sudden and violent passion without precedent deliberation and intent forceth as in a rage and fury to sweare and curse So cholericke answers for trifles rayling and reproachfull termes To these adde excessiue prating idle talking scurrilous and filthy speaking ribald songs officious lying without damage to a mans neighbour vaine boasting preferring his owne wit strength and beauty before others Fourthly such sinnes as a man committeth against his owne good as to spend his time idly gouerne his estate badly wastfully consuming his goods louing to play at Cards and Dice and to goe to Playes to exceede in apparell eating and drinking with delight of his belly Fifthly sinnes towards others as children disobeying Parents when it is of negligence and sensualitie To steale trifles and things of little value Sixtly such sinnes as bee outward to-moue delight as painting the face or for pastime as scoffing and obscene iests and gestures in Playes and such like in sport Seuenthly such sinnes as are against pietie and deuotion as not to sanctifie well the Sabbath day to fast pray giue almes and to goe to the Church for vaine-glory to confesse sinnes negligently and many other besides all these they count veniall sinnes Heere may we see plainely how it comes to passe that vaine people loue so much that vaine licentious Religion runne to it and continue in it and the reasons are First for that they make such euils as these and many other moe yea some kinde of soule secret euils veniall or no sinnes at all not simply sinnes but imperfectly and onely sinnes in some sort Secondly because they hold and teach that these are not iniurious to God are pardonable without repentance not deserue hell not in strictnesse of necessitie to bee confessed to a Priest neither can God in iustice punish them more then with a temporall punishment Thirdly because that as they teach God doth easily pardon and forgiue these and the remedies prescribed are for the most part very easie which be these the giuing of Almes knocking vpon our brest with some remorse going into a Church receiuing holy water with a deuout motion the Bishops blessing crossing of ones selfe bearing with other folkes defects and froward dealings towards vs confessing our sinnes in generall hearing of Masse deuoutly and to be patient in aduersitie and troubles These things are taught some by one sort some by another sort of their learned men See Vaux his English Catechisme also the mirrour to confesse well and D. Whites Way digress 38. Doctor White his Orthodox way cap. 1. obs 2. sect 3. pag. 28. in quarto who doe produce the Authors which teach these To hold that there are any such sinnes as these or any sinnes at all veniall in their owne nature and not deseruing damnation is the very nursery of fleshly libertie and the high-way to destruction Confuted by their owne Bible First it telleth vs that death is the stipend of sinne not excepting any Rom. 6. 21 23. and pronounceth that the soule that shall sinne the same shall dye Ezek. 18. 20. and that hee is cursed that abideth not in the words of this Law and fulfilleth them not Deut. 27. 26. Gal. 3. 10. making him that offendeth in one to be guiltie of all Iam. 2. 10. and by it also wee learne that deaths sting is sinne 1. Cor. 15. 56. And therefore whatsoeuer is sinne that same is mortall If it bee sinne it is the sting of death and if deaths sting then is it mortall For death doth euer sting deadly Secondly it threatneth death and hell for such sinnes as they count veniall offences seeming very little as in anger to call one foole is in danger of hell fire Matth. 5. 23. and for filthinesse foolish talke or scurrilitie commeth the anger of God Ephes 5. 4. 6. yea we are told that for euery idle word men shall speake they shall render an account in the Day of Iudgement and that as guilty of death Matth. 12. 36. And though our Aduersaries doe hold it a veniall sinne for a man not to husband well his owne estate liuing carelessely and idle yet Christ held it a sinne worthy damnation Matth. 25. 26 27 30. To bee a bragger to be deceitfull to breake a mans couenant to bee without knowledge though they ranke not these among hainous crimes yet deserue they death as we learne by their Bible Rom. 1. 32. Thirdly it telleth vs that for seeming small offences many haue beene fearefully punished as Lots wife for looking backe to haue beene turned into a Statue of Salt Gen. 19. 26. For gathering sticks on the Sabbath day God commanded to stone a man to death Numb 15. 35. and one for blaspheming vpon passion when he was striuing with another Leuit. 24. 10 14. Some of Aarons sonnes for offering strange fire were burnt to death with
fire from heauen Leuit. 10. 1 5. Vzzah of a good intent but touching the Arke was striken dead of God 2. Sam. 6. 7. The Bethshemites for but looking into the Arke were smitten dead to the number of aboue fifty thousand 1. Sam. 6. 19. The Israelites slaine in the Wildernesse 1. Cor. 10. For vnaduisedly speaking yea when it came from a vexed and exasperated spirit was Moses punished Psal 105. 32 33. he was not permitted to goe into Canaan which was a type of Heauen but hee must dye before euen Moses Now whatsoeuer sinne vnder the Law God punished with death or commanded to be punished by death the same without remission deserued eternall death For the first time that death is mentioned it is to bee vnderstood of death temporall and eternall due to all had not there beene a Mediatour betweene God and vs Gen. 2. 17. Fourthly it teacheth that Originall sinne which is lesse then any actuall sinne whether in thought word or deed is punished with death Rom. 5. 12. Now if the reward of this sinne be death then surely much more any other flowing from thence though it seeme to man neuer so small an offence deserueth death as the very consent of the minde to other euill doers among which boasters are reckoned is worthy of death Rom. 1. 32. yea and Commessations which we translate Reuellings wherein too many much delight is a sinne which keepes the doers thereof that they cannot obtaine the Kingdome of God Gal. 5. 21. Fifthly sinnes of ignorance vnder the law Leuit. 4. 2 13 27. had sacrifices appointed to make an atonement to God for them Now all sacrifices for sinne shewed that a man deserued death for euery such sinne Now if sinnes of ignorance deserue death what may all men think of such sins as Papists call veniall before-mentioned plainely forbidden by the Word of God Sixtly to commit adulterie is a mortall sinne but their Bible telleth vs that for one to see a woman to lust after her hath al-already committed adulterie with her in his heart Matth. 5. 28. And can any sinne seeme lesse then concupiscence of the heart suddenly arising by the obiect to the sight And yet Papists make wanton dalliances no sinne or as none in their account Seuenthly it sheweth that it is Christs bloud that cleanseth from all sinne 1. Ioh. 1. Now if euery sinne needs cleansing by his bloud then euery sinne in its owne nature is mortall in that it cannot be cleansed but by his death Contraried by Antiquitie Austin in Enchirid. cap. 79. speaking of sinnes which might seeme small saith They might bee thought very light but that in the Scriptures they are demonstrated greater then wee doe imagine But that the truth speakes it who would thinke saith hee that for a man to call his Brother foole is guiltie of hell-fire The ancient Fathers earnestly exhort to beware of counting any sinnes light or small Basil qu. Contract qu. 4. No sinne is to bee accounted as small for that saith hee it is the sting of death See for this Austin Epist 108. and in Ioh. 11. 13. Chrysost on Gal. 1. Ierome in Epist ad Caelantiam It is very safe to beware of small sinnes as if they were great c. Neither doe I know saith he whether we may call any sinne small seeing it is committed with a kinde of contempt of God And he is most prudent who respects not so much the quantitie of the thing commanded as the dignitie of the Commander See Master Perkins his Demonst of his Probl. of veniall sin and therein many testimonies of the Ancients Gainsaid by their owne men Almaine out of Gerson Moral Tract 3. cap. 20. concludeth that no sinne is veniall of it selfe but onely through the mercy of God Azorius instit Moral part 1. lib. 4. cap. 8. doth maintaine against Bellarmine that veniall sinnes are against the Law Now that which is against the Law is deadly Of this opinion is Fisher Bishop of Rochester and diuers others See the Authors in Doctor Whites Way digres 38. pag. 247. and Bishop Mortons Protest Appeal pag. 646. To passe ouer the oppositions of one against another they all call them sinnes Now euery sinne is the transgression of the Law 1. Ioh. 3. 4. By which we come to the knowledge of sinne Rom. 3. 26. and 7. 7. And if there were no Law there were no transgression Rom. 4. 15. Therefore in confessing veniall sinnes to be sinnes they make them transgressions of the Law and then the Law worketh wrath Rom. 4. 15. and so necessarily through veniall sinnes they are vnder wrath and so sinne mortally euen to condemnation except God in Christ pardon them and that they doe heartily repent pray for pardon and seeke with God reconciliation by Christ Scriptures obiected answered Matth. 5. 25. Whosoeuer is angry with his brother without cause is in danger of Iudgement And whosoeuer shall say vnto his Brother Racha shall be in danger of Councill and whosoeuer shall say Thou Foole shall be guilty of Hell-fire Answ This place proueth not any sinnes to be veniall and not mortall in their owne nature For first this should be against the scope of Christs speech in confuting the Pharises mis-vnderstanding the Law and here in particular the sixt commandement They stucke to the Letter Christ here extendeth the breach of this Law to thoughts and words so making a man by causelesse anger and railing words to be before God guiltie of murder Is this then to make sinne veniall or are not rather those which they conceit to bee veniall by Christ here made mortall if to be guilty of bloud before God be mortall Secondly here is no difference made of sinnes in their nature but onely here is shewed the degrees of sinning and that one offence is greater then another For faine would I know of them how they can distinguish these in nature that anger and calling one Racha should be veniall and to call one Foole to bee mortall Thirdly the punishments here expressed distinguish not the nature of the sinnes but shew the degrees of punishments according as men sinne For as God in mercy will reward mens well-doings with degrees of glory so in iustice will he in hell the damned with degrees of punishment Matth. 10. 15. Fourthly whereas our Aduersaries make Iudgement and Councill temporall punishments for veniall sinnes and hell fire for mortall sinnes taking aduantage by the translation of the word Gehenna First it is cleere that punishments doe not alter the nature of sinnes but being duely executed doe shew onely the degrees of sinne to be greater or lesser and so are they accordingly punished Secondly Papists themselues hold vnaduised anger and words euen tending to blasphemie comming of sudden and vnaduised anger as the word Racha and Foole doe here to be veniall sinnes Therefore they erre in distinguishing the sinnes thus into veniall and mortall which they themselues account to be veniall Thirdly the punishments here mentioned are such
distinction of veniall and mortall sinnes Prou. 24. 16. A iust man falleth seuentimes and riseth vp againe Ergo Men may commit sinnes veniall and yet remaine iust Answ Here is no proofe that these falls or sinnes are not mortall in themselues For that a iust man sinning remaineth iust is not from the nature of the sinnes which he doth fall into but from the state of adoption and Gods mercy which giueth him grace to repent which is here to bee vnderstood by his rising againe God accepting of him in Christ through whom he is accounted iust and in whom all his sinnes are veniall XXXI Proposition Of keeping Gods Commandements THe question is not of man before his fall for he could then The state of the question keepe them nor of man in corrupt estate for hee cannot keepe them being altogether wicked and euill as before is proued nor of man in state of glory being in all perfection and able perfectly to doe the will of God But the question is of man regenerate in the state of grace as he here liueth going on by Gods assisting grace vnto the perfection in glory Neither is the question here of any kinde of keeping for the regenerate man in diuers respects may bee said to keepe Gods commandements First Imputatiuely in Retract lib. 2. cap. 19. Christ who is our Wisedome Righteousnesse Sanctification and Redemption and through whom we are pardoned To this fitteth that of Saint Austin All the commandements are then reputed done when that is for giuen which is left vndone Secondly in respect of his will God hauing giuen him a will and hearty desire in sinceritie to keepe his commandements and then in his mercy accepting the same will for the deed Thirdly in respect of his endeuour and carefull striuing in all good conscience to frame his life after these commandements so keeping them according to the measure of his grace receiued Fourthly comparatiuely in respect of others who liue loosely without care and conscience of obedience A godly gracious person in respect of such may be said to keepe the commandements Lastly in respect of his integritie of heart to one commandement as well as to another and to all and euery clause of euery commandement at all times without sinister regard according to his knowledge and power of diuine grace giuen to assist him therein Of such kinds of keeping is not the question but it is this That a regenerate man by assistance of Gods grace is able to obserue all and euery commandement of God in euery part at all times in thought word and deed perfectly as God in his Law requireth of him Confuted by their owne Bible 1. IT maketh all to haue sinne in them 1. Ioh. 1. 8 10. If we say Prou. 20. 9. we haue no sinne we deceiue our selues If we say we haue no sinne we make him a lyer Now here in the word wee is vnderstood Saint Iohn the beloued Apostle as well as others So Iames saith In many things we offend Iam. 3. 2. and Where sinne is there is the transgression of the Law 1. Ioh. 3. 4. And they that sinne keepe not perfectly the Law II. It maketh iust men imperfect and offenders against the Law Eccles 7. 21. There is no iust man in the earth that doth good and sinneth not Prou. 24. 16. Seuen times shall the iust fall and rise againe This they themselues expound of sinne that a iust man sinneth oftentimes III. It affordeth vs a world of examples of most excellent men which haue offended and greatly transgressed the Law of God Adam made in perfection iust Noah holy Aaron righteous Iob zealous Dauid Ieremie the Prophet Saint Peter and other the Apostles also when they forsooke Christ IV. It bringeth in Saint Paul who was an Apostle who had beene rapt into the third heauen bewayling himselfe calling himselfe an vnhapppy man because of that sinne which yet remained in him which made him to doe the euill which hee would not and hindred him in doing the good which hee would doe and so repugning the Law of his minde and captiuing him in the Law of sinne which is in his members Rom. 7. 19 24. In like manner Iob cap. 9. 28 31. fearing all his workes for though hee should be washed yet saith he speaking of God Thou shalt dip me in filth and my garments shall abhorre me Lastly it teacheth the forme of the Lords Prayer wherein wee all and euery one are taught to aske dayly forgiuenesse of God which sheweth that wee all trespasse dayly against him Contraried by Antiquitie Ambros in Comment on Gal. 3. The commandements are such as it is vnpossible to keepe them Austin in Confess lib. 9. cap. 13. Woe be to the most commendable life that we can leade if thou Lord setting thy mercie aside shouldest examine it Bernard on Cant. Serm. 50. The commandements neither haue beene fulfilled in this life by any man nor can be And afterwards he saith that the Law exceedeth mans strength and acknowledgeth that God commanded things impossible not to make vs sinners but to humble vs. Gainesaid by their owne selues Doway in Annot. on Prou. 24. 15 16. saith that without imperfections no man liueth Rhemists on Matth. 6. 12. doe acknowledge that euery man though hee be neuer so iust liueth not without veniall sinnes Now hauing proued before that all sinne in its nature is mortall Therefore by this their grant all men sinne mortally when they sinne if that there were not remission through Christ Ferus in Act. 15. The Law is an impossible burthen for it requireth not onely the hand but the heart Secondly it conuinceth vs to bee sinners for wee doe all more against it then for it Aquinas saith in Gal. 3. lect 4. It is impossible to fulfill the whole Law and citeth for it Act. 15. 10. Scriptures obiected answered Phil. 4. 3. I can doe all things through Christ which strengthneth me Answ 1. All things must of necessitie be limited for Paul could not doe all things without exception Secondly they are to bee applyed to the all things which hee before spake of in the former verse that is to bee abased and to abound In all things saith he I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry both to abound and to suffer need Here we see the Apostle limits his all things to these kinde of things Thirdly herein cannot bee included the commandements for that the Apostle should here contradict himselfe For in Rom. 7. 18 19 20. speaking of the Law he professeth his inabilitie to performe that which is good Fourthly let it be granted that here the commandements are included as they would yet perfect obedience will not bee hence included For its one thing to be a doer and another thing to doe all in perfection A man may say hee is to doe and can doe all his Masters businesse Will it therfore follow that he so doth it as no defect euer at any time
faith to which he exhorts in verse 23. saying that it is a commandement of God that we should beleeue in the name of his Sonne Iesus Christ Rom. 3. 31. Doe we destroy the Law by faith God forbid but we rather maintaine the Law Answ The whole Chapter is against iustification by workes and for faith and euen in this very verse For what meane these words but to shew that faith by which wee are iustified doth fulfill the Law so as what men would obtaine by the workes of the Law the same they haue by faith in Christ who hath for vs perfectly fulfilled the Law So the Law is not destroyed but by faith established Phil. 2. 12. Worke out your saluation with feare and trembling Answ What meaneth this babbling Babylonian hereby Will he conclude that he which is to worke out his saluation with feare and trembling is not iustified by faith onely Iustifying faith maketh none presumptuous It makes a man put on the Armour of God It so maketh vs confident in God as withall neuer to neglect any good meanes in the way to saluation It maketh vs not high-minded but to feare and to tremble and so to worke out our owne saluation which euer accompanyeth our iustification XXXIII Proposition That no true beleeuer particularly can in this life be certaine of his saluation without a miracle or extraordinary reuelation Confuted by their owne Bible BY their Bible we doe learne and it is cleere First that the vnalterable ground of our saluation is laid in Iesus Christ God hauing chosen vs in him before the constitution of the world Ephes 1. 4. which he wil perfect for whom he hath predestinated them also he hath called and whom hee hath called them also he hath iustified and whom he hath iustified them also he hath glorified Rom. 8. 30. Secondly that Christ hath taken away all and euery cause of damnation and euery thing that might hinder the saluation of such as beleeued in him as to wit sin Hee is made sinne for vs 2. Cor. 5. 21. the curse of the Law he hath redeemed vs from the curse thereof Gal. 3. 13. and from vnder it Gal. 4. 5. the anger and wrath of God for we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son Rom. 5. 10 11 2. Cor. 5. 19. So that there is no damnation to them that are in Christ Rom. 8. 1. Thirdly that Christ is euery thing for vs vnto God our Wisdome Iustice Sanctification and Redemption 1. Cor. 1. 30. yea in Christ we are made the Iustice of God 2. Cor. 5. 21. So that God iustifieth vs with his owne Iustice which cannot bee excepted against Who therefore shall accuse the elect of God or who is hee that shall condemne Rom. 8. 33 34. And if free from accusation and condemnation are they not sure of saluation What is it that letteth Fourthly that no power though they haue many temptations and many combates shall euer finally ouercome them The gates of hell shall not preuaile against them Matth. 16. 18. For in the vertue of God they are kept by faith to saluation 1. Pet. 1. 5. and are in all power strengthened according to the might of his glory in all patience longanimitie with ioy Col. 1. 11. Christ promiseth not to cast forth his Ioh. 6. 37 40 and he holdeth vs that none shall plucke vs out of his hands Ioh 10. 28. Not Satan for Christ hath ouercome him Matth. 4. Heb. 2. 14. Not the world for he hath ouercome it also Ioh. 16. 33. Not false Teachers for it is not possible that the elect should bee induced into errour Matth. 24. 24. meaning totally and finally Not our sinnes for the bloud of Christ hath cleansed vs from all sinne 1. Ioh. 1. 7. and in him we haue redemption the remission of our sinnes Col. 1. 14. Ephes 1. 7. See also Heb. 8. 12 9. 14. Not the terrour and curse of the Law for hee hath fulfilled it for vs and remoued the curse Gal. 4. 5. 3. 13. Not our once being vnder the power of darknesse for God hath deliuered vs from our enemies Luk. 1. 74. and from the power of darknesse and translated vs into the kingdome of the Sonne of his loue Col. 1. 13. Nor Gods once former displeasure against vs for when we were impious Rom. 5. when wee were sinners Christ dyed for vs verses 6. 8. and when we were enemies we by Christs death were reconciled to God verse 10. and haue receiued reconciliation verse 11. Not any thing that may fall out after reconciliation For if when we were Enemies we were reconciled much more being reconciled shal we be saued in the life of him Rom. 5. 10. No not Gods iust deserued wrath for our often falls For if when we were sinners Christ dyed for vs much more therefore now being iustified by his bloud shall wee be saued from wrath by him Rom. 5. 8 9. 1. Thes 1. 10. Not the Law of sinne captiuing vs so as we cannot doe that which wee would but doe often that which wee would not For Iesus Christ shall deliuer vs from the body of this death Rom. 7. 24 25. Not tribulation distresse famine nakednesse danger persecution nor the sword though wee were killed for his sake all the day long For to vs it is giuen for Christ not onely that wee should beleeue in him but also that we suffer for his name Phil. 1. 28. And in all these things wee ouercome because of him that hath loued vs Rom. 8. 37. and because God is faithfull who will not suffer his to bee tempted aboue that which they are able but will also make with temptation issue that you may be able to sustaine 1. Cor. 10. 13. To conclude there is nothing possible that can separate vs from the charity of God in Christ Iesus our Lord. For I am sure saith the Apostle that neither Death nor Life nor Angels nor Principalities nor Powers neither things present nor things to come neither might nor height nor depth nor other creature shall be able to doe it Rom. 8. 38 39. For we know that to them that loue God all things co-operate vnto good to such as according to purpose are called to be Saints Rom. 8. 28. And Christ Iesus is able to saue for euer them that goe by him to God Heb. 7. 25. hee being entred into Heauen now appearing to the countenance of God for vs Heb. 9. 24. who is on Gods right hand making intercession for vs Rom. 8. 34. So that it is vndoubtedly certaine that those that bee Christs shall not perish Ioh. 3. 15. nor come into iudgement but passe from death to life Ioh. 5. 24. Fifthly their Bible teacheth not onely these things in the generall but also how euery true beleeuer may particularly be assured that he hath his part in these things and be certaine of his owne saluation and that is by Christs Spirit and by the grace of faith wrought by the same