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A54424 Battering rams against Rome; or, The battel of John the follower of the lamb, fought with the pope and his priests, whilst he was a prisoner in the inquisition-prison of Rome. Also, a certain remonstrance of righteous reason, written in Rome-prison of mad-men, unto all Rome's rulers. Together with a post-script, to all tender-hearted Roman Catholicks.; Battering rams against Rome. J. P. ((John Perrot)), d. 1671?. 1661 (1661) Wing P1612; ESTC R217527 61,566 173

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except the Works be perfect yea or nay Que. 13. Whether had not the Jews all the words of the Prophets and yet when Christ came slew Him who was the Virtue Sum Substance the Beginning and End of the life of the Prophets And whether you being out of the Spirit of Christ are not under the judgement of Jeremiah's words viz Though they say the LORD liveth surely they swear falsly Que. 14. Whether did Adam lose mor●… in his life than CHRIST came to restor●… unto Man in this life Which is the greater the living soul or the quickning spirit And whether is any one or more of you Members restored unto either or not in the life of either of these two states yea or nay Que. 15. Whether is not all Sin of the Devil and he that commits Sin of the Devil yea or nay Concerning the true Church Query 16. Whether is not the Trut●… Church the Body of CHRIST which is in GOD And when Paul spake of Christ and the Church whether did he not speak of a Mystery yea or nay Que. 17. Whether are the Members of Christ's Body evil And if sinners be Members of Christs Body tell me if any other spirit be the sinnews of that body besides the spirit of the Devil which leads into sin and evil yea or nay Que. 18. Whether is not the perfection of the Glory of GOD in his Church And whether doth that remain among sinners yea or nay Que. 19. Whether hath not Christ said Without exception God heareth not sinners and therefore saith James You ask and have not And whether doth not God hear the Prayers of his Church yea or nay Que. 20. Whether doth not Paul say That Christ's Church is without spot or wrinkle to bring it into which state he purged every branch and the unfruitful he cut off And tell me since the last two hundred years whether your Members have encreased in more Sin or in more Holiness in outward shew and practice in their conversation Que. 21. Whether all that commit Sin are not in the Apostacy from the Spirit which is the life of the Church and leads out of all sin yea or nay Que. 22. Whether is not Christ the Promise of the Father The Seed of the Woman shall bruise the Serpent's head And did he come to do lesse than was promised Now search you the Prophets and see what was promised and also answer me When the Serpents head is bruised is not Man as he was in the day that he was created yea or nay Que. 23. What is Salvation and R●…demption and Restauration and from wh●… and unto what and when Que. 24. Whether the evil works all men is not Testimony of the false fa●… of all such men And if Adam for one 〈◊〉 lost so glorious an Estate How think you wi●● your so many sins shall you be made Inheritors of his first state Que. 25. Whether can any of you just say That Christ is the end of the Law f●● Righteousness unto you who never came 〈◊〉 the beginning of the Righteousness thereof Did Christ come to destroy the Law or 〈◊〉 fulfil the Law Do you believe Paul's Testimony of Christ in whom he was reveale●… who therefore testified That the Righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in them that walk nor after the flesh but after the Spirit And whether is any one of you s●● entred into the Spirit yea or nay Que. 26. Is any one or more of you truly in the Faith to witness unto John's Testimony who said As Christ is so are we in this present world and whether were they the●… in sin yea or nay Que. 27. Whether did not Christ rebuke Hypocrites when he said Why call you me Lord and do not the things which I say And Did not Christ say unto his Disbiples Be ye perfect as your Father which is in Heaven is perfect And Whether do you think that he was an unequal Lord and his Commandments grievous which could not be born yea or nay Que. 28. What are the Clouds and the time of the Night and the cause of the Darkness Blindness and Ignorance And what are the Vails which cover the Heart and the understanding part And how is the World set in man's heart whereby man cannot find out the Work which GOD maketh from the beginning to the end thereof Que. 29. What is that which removes the Darkness breaks thorow the Clouds rents the Vails and drives back the mist and thickness of the Night And whether is not that which is the Cause and that which removes the Cause these two still the same since the Fall unto this day of man's remaining under the Curse in the Fall And whether any thing redeems out of the Curse but that which redeems out of the Fall and is not every sinner in the Fall yea or nay Que. 30. What is that which takes away the Original of Sin and if the Original which is the root and off-spring be take away the root not left in ground how ca●… a branch grow or fruit be brought forth GOD saith the soul that sinneth shall die And Whether do you otherwise believe Tha●… if you live in sin until death but you sha●… receive as Paul saith the wages of sin whic●… is death yea or nay These things are but that which ma●… lead unto an entrance of somewhat mor●… to follow which I offer as hereby directe●… in the Substance to all such as desire to know the new birth And when the Learne●… have answered them as the liberty of Pen Ink and Paper is afforded me I may explicate your Replications and shew the groun●… thereof and withall try if the key of the understanding all Mysteries is among you which is in the Church of Christ and any thing concerning the Kingdom of God Call your Councils together I am an alone Child propound your Queries and let me answer them for in GOD is my trust and not in self who am his Servant From the Inquisition-Prison in Rome J. P. THe Church of Christ this day stands in the Doctrine of Christ. They are in the Life which cannot recompence unto any man evil for evil but good for evil but you I find recompencing evil for good which is contrary to all good You are in the nature and practice of the Scribes Pharisees and Hypocrites which Christ cryed Wo against You call men Lords and Masters and are called of men Lords and Masters You love Greetings and Salutations in the Market-places and in these things love to be seen of men And you are in the delight of the uppermost Rooms and Places at Feasts and love the honour which comes from men All which is contrary to the Doctrine of Christ But the Church of Christ speaks not more of Christ than as they live and walk in the Doctrine of Christ Number over your Traditions and compare them with what Christ and his holy Apostles delivered that you may see in how much you are short
on the one hand and in how much you have spun a thrid beyond the staple on the other that you may see how you have lost the end your line not leading to Perfection nor your life out of sin and corruption Preach write and speak to the end of your dayes and time you shall never beget but by your own seed none other likeness but of your own nature You may come as far as the shadow shell and husk You may have the words but your nature cannot receive the Life and Power the Crosse of Christ which is the Power of GOD to Salvation is too hard a thing for you to bear You have the Image which is the loss of the Substance for where CHRIST who is the Substance is come there the end is come unto all Shadows Types and Figures which shadowed and figured out the Substance before it came Concerning Opinions I blow over them all as Chaff in as many as are in dissembling lyes hypocrisie swearing or cursed speaking Repent God's day is at hand Rome dispensed from the Inquisition-Prison J. P. I Could say many things unto you but you are not able to bear a little as the Priest concerning the Prophet complained saying The Land is not able to bear all his words you being not yet come unto the Charity which is in the Church of Christ which can bear all things and endure all things Wherefore at present I query a little further expecting first an Answer of the former and after that of these Concerning the Kingdom Query 1. What is the lost groat and the sweeping of the house to find it And whether have you found it yea or nay Que. 2. What is a Virgin's-state and are you in it and In which of the two the wise or the foolish What is the Lamp and the Oyl in the Lamp and do you possess it yea or nay Que. 3. Whether is not the Kingdom of Heaven as really in you as it was in the Scribes and Pharisees And whether are you in the Kingdom yea or nay Que. 4. Whether is any one of you a greater Prophet than John Baptist who was the greatest Prophet born of Women which went before him seeing he that is least in the Kingdom is greater than he Que. 5. If not one of you be in the Kingdom of God Are not all in the kingdom of Satan which are not in the Kingdom of God yea or nay Que. 6. What is the first Principle which leads to the understanding and knowledge of the Oracles of GOD And whether are you in it and doth your life answer it yea or nay Que. 7. What is the Key of David an●… who keeps it and whether is any thing opened or shut in Heaven or in Earth without it yea or nay Que. 8. What is the Book which is sealed with seven Seals and what are th●… Seals thereon which John said no man i●… Heaven nor in Earth was found worth●… to open Whether was Peter then in Heaven or in Earth or neither in Heaven nor i●… Earth And whether any now in your day is found worthy in Earth to do that which John in the Lord's day saw no man in Heaven or Earth was found worthy to do ye●… or nay Que. 9. VVhether is not the Prison an●… the Prison-house the seat of Sin and habitation of Corruption Or Is darkness an●… the shadow of death the Purgation from Sin for the Redemption out of Death Do you not know that the Seed is in Prison under the Clouds of darkness through Sin and Corruption in each one of you yea or nay Que. 10. VVhether have you Salt and Savour in your selves If you know not that it is in you are you otherwise fit but to be cast out and trodden under foot of men Que. 11. VVhat are the two Witnesses of whom it was said That they should again prophesie Whether are they not yet come or how know you but they be come Que. 12. VVhether is the Creation of Jerusalem anew unto you in Rome in the old Age of your sins which the Hebrews shall enter into according to Isaiah's Prophecy and which the Saints of the Most High are now entred into according to John's Prophecy where nothing that defiles can enter And whether is this any other than that which the Apostle said the Hebrews were entred into who were come unto the spirits of just men made perfect yea or nay The Prophecy is become unto all saith Isaiah as a Book that is sealed Friends spur up your Colledges to answer me For if once your Chariot wheels are clogged in the sand and your Host troubled know that Judgment is nigh and the Floods will soon close and joyn hands over your heads Dispensed from the Inquisition-Prison in Rome J. P. THat which is done in secret shall be preached upon the house top For the Bed is too short the Covering is too narrow the Nakedness is seen strip off the Fig-leaves they hide not the Line is stretched but yet the Stone is sealed Nevertheless if you will come forth come forth if you will enter enter come and be as a Roe and Hart upon the Mountains to run and read me to grow to the understanding of a Proverb and the Interpretation thereof the words of the Wise and their dark sayings For behold there cometh a Nation of a deeper speech than ye can perceive of a stammering tongue that you cannot understand they shall break over Walls and climb upon the tops of Houses and enter in at the Windows of the Closets A fiercer People hath not been saith the Spirit of the Prophet The Trumpet of the Lord of Hosts is sounding the Alarm his dreadful day is at hand the dead in Christ have heard and are partakers of the first Resurrection He that hath an Ear to hear let him hear and Repent Rome dispensed from the Inquisition-Prison J. P. To the Pope and Governour and the rest ruling in the City of Rome Friends IN your places it is necessary that you consider that which is indeed above all things honourable I crave not the breaking off the yoke of my bonds at your hands as being assured that your hands were bound of the Lord thus far unto my Imprisonment that you by the means thereof might have knowledge how you are bound with the Chain of Satan under the Curse through Sin and Transgression the LIGHT being come declared and testified unto you henceforth you have no more cloak for your sin This I desire not of you but concerning you of Him which openeth and no man shutteth that the Prisoner in you in the Prison-house within which sits in darkness under the shadow of death may be set at liberty and come forth with the high praise of GOD in his mouth This I offer unto you that I migh●… know either by your willing or nilling whether you exceed or fall short of the Nobility of the Bereans who searched the Scriptures to know the truth of the matter
and in spirit be provoked unto Holiness which stands not in the wilful afflictions and penance heaped upon the vessel of the creature Man or by hanging down the head like a Bulrush for a day but by a due and diligent search of the hidden man coming unto the Judgment of Truth and revelation of the Indignation and Wrath of the Lamb which is slaughtered in the streets of Mystery Sodom That you may come to the Testimony of the DAY of Vengeance and the acceptable Year of the LORD until which the works of your wills in all your daily services are but as the offering of the sacrifice of Cain who killed the Just. And furthermore hereby I give you to understand That there are but two Seeds known unto all in the Substance two Wills two Natures two Spirits and each of them the ground and root which yeelds the fruit of good or evil in all whether Prayers Preaching Plowing or Planting even all which is brought forth within or without by either of them the one the Redemption out of the Fall and from the ground of the first Apostacy in lost Adam and the Restauration unto the first state of Innocency the other the Plant of Perdition which holds in the Captivity even all the Professors of the Name of Christ who are alienated from the Life of Christ in the ground of the second Apostacy under which you have concluded your selves as Christ said The Tree is known by the fruits which thing well understood by you in heart and faithfully owned in life would put a stop to all your vanity of enquiring after more things until first you have found and do come to live in the one thing which is only needful unto Salvation with which all things else come to be possessed Nevertheless to thee I query a little concerning your Doctrine Practice and Example to be plainly and particularly answered in writing by the words of the Declaration of the Doctrine Life and Example of Christ or any of his holy Apostles as written in the Record of their Scriptures of which some were given forth before the Apostacy came in and others before it fully entred and came in prophesying the full succession thereof What since them is brought forth among you thou mayest omit to mention in thy Replication for I know your spirit and do also know what you can and do live unto and this as the former to your Body for the Truth 's sake simply I give forth that if haply thou and the rest may come down from your Mountain into the Valley of Jehosaphat unto the Righteousness of the Judgments of the LORD of the whole Earth who else with Vengeance will dash you in pieces as a Potter's Vessel Remember you are warned to prize your time and Repent Query 1. Why call ye Christ LORD and do not the things which he saith Que. 2. Why delight ye Priests to wear long Robes like as the Scribes and Pharisees Que. 3. Why delight ye in Salutations and Greetings in the Market-places and love the Uppermost Rooms at Feasts Que. 4. Why love ye to be called of men Lords and Masters or to call men Lords and Masters Que. 5. How can ye believe in Christ who seek the honour which comes from man Que. 6. Why teach ye for Doctrine the Traditions of men Que. 7. What Precept of CHRIST or President of the Apostles have you to warrant your worshiping before graven Images or painted Figures Que. 8. What Precept of CHRIST or President of the Apostles have you to warrant the owning and conf●…ssing of more than ONE Intercessor Advocate and Mediator Que. 9. By whom was it prophesied or practised as in the Declaration of Truth and Record of the Scriptures That besides Prayers for all Saints in the Churches Prayers should be made unto any Saints in Heaven seeing CHSIST taught Not unto Himself henceforth but only to the Father in his Name Que. 10. VVhat Precept of CHRIST or President of the Apostles have you to warrant often Repetitions and vain Bablings and to yeeld unto God in your manner but one Prayer of eleven that is to say Ten Ave Maries and but One Pater Noster Que. 11. What Precept of CHRIST or President of the Apostles have you to keep count of the tale of your Prayers by Bracelets or Beads upon strings Que. 12. VVhat Word of the Record of Truth have you to warrant a place of Purgatory for Sin after this life under that cloak granting liberty to your selves to sin unto death Que. 13. VVhat Word of GOD or Precept of CHRIST have you to warrant unto any soul which requireth a reason of you to shew how possibly can any one of you sanctifie Bread and Wine to dispense it under the denomination of a Sacrament seeing you are all confessed to be of corrupt hearts and unclean hands which never could touch the holy thing Que. 14. VVhat Precept or President recorded in the Scriptures of Truth have you to warrant the Administration of Water sprinkled upon Infants with unclean hands in the corruption of your hearts to be the Baptism which taketh away the Original Sin How is the Original taken away from any one whilst the life of you all is a continual issue and open fountain of all sin Que. 15. How can an evil heart blesse any thing or the spirit of Satan make Holy Water Which of you being daily washed in that Water will it clense from the Corruption and rottenness of his heart Que. 16. VVhat Precept of CHRIST or Doctrine of the Apostles is your Warrant to deny the general use of the Scriptures of Truth among your Church-members and to allow Books of lying Stories and Tales and beastly Songs and bewitching Playes and Sports and such abominable beastly things openly in the Streets and in Houses as are not meet to be named Que. 17. What Precept of CHRIST have you to call men Fathers upon Earth Que. 18. What Prophecy is there recorded in the Scriptures of Truth for the succession of Popes Cardinals Chaplains White-Fryars Black-Fryars Gray-Fryars Iesuites Nuns and Queristers to come in the Truth Que. 19. What Precept or President have you in the Scriptures of Truth to worship in Idols Temples made with hands there seeking GOD where GOD dwelleth not Que. 20. What Scripture is it that warrants your going Processions Que. 21. What Scripture-Example have you for your Begging Brothers going about hood-wink'd and disguis'd with Money-Boxes and others with great Wallets and Wine-bottles from house to house a begging Que. 22. What Example in Scripture have you which sheweth that the Saints and Apostles in the Primitive times did live in the observation of the Dayes or Times of CHRIST's Conception and with his also of one another's Day yearly of Births or Deaths Que. 23. What Commandment of GOD have you for the time called Lent and in it the abstinence from flesh and so in like manner sixth and seventh dayes of the Week alwayes besides commanding