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A54120 The Christian-Quaker and his divine testimony vindicated by Scripture, reason, and authorities against the injurious attempts that have been lately made by several adversaries, with manifest design to rendor him odiously inconsistent with Christianity and civil society : in II parts. / The first more general by William Penn ; the second more particular by George Whitehead. Penn, William, 1644-1718.; Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1674 (1674) Wing P1266; ESTC R37076 464,302 582

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Beloved in whom we are created again unto good Works How can Christ's sinless Obedience from the beginning of Life to the end which takes in his Conformity to the Law be imputed to the Guilty and fallen Creature or that Conformity be the Everlasting Righteousness wherewith the true Believer is invested when as 't is not the Works of the Law but the Righteousness of Faith that Justifies and Recommends to God And this is inwardly poss●…ssed where true Faith and the Obedience thereof is injoyed and Lived in it is not Christ's Conformity to the Law that Justifies us but his making us conformable to his own Image and Partakers of his Everlasting Righteousness for which God pronounceth us just for men are not imputatively Righteous or Just when actually condemned as Guilty Sinful Fallen Creatures And further I deny that Christ's Conformity to the Law whilst on Earth doth either constitute or reckon us righteous from the Beginning of Life to the End for that God according to his Grace and Mercy forgiveth Sins that are past before Faith and after his Visitation and Mercy is received the Law and Righteousness of Faith enjoyns us to Newness and Holiness of Life without which he will not acquit us He will not acquit the Wicked If I sin thou markest me and wilt acquit me from mine Iniquity Job 10. And then shall we sin because we are no more under the Law but under Grace God forbid c. His saying But were the Works of Faith perfect yet could they not be a justifying Righteousness p. 95. Though Righteousness in the Abstract and as it is everlasting doth not consist or is not made up of any Work outward or temporal Acts yet to conclude that the Works of Faith ●…hough perfect cannot be justi●…ing is contrary to the Apostle's Testimony of being justified by Faith whereby we have Peace with God and you see ●…hou that ●…Y WO●…KS A MAN IS JUSTIFIED and n●…t by Faith only Was not our Father Abraham justified by W●…ks when he offered up his Son Isaac A●…d God will ordain Peace for us for he hath wrought all ●…ur Works in us Isa. 26. and then are not his Works in us ●…ding to our Justification and Acceptance being recko●…d ours as wrought in us Are not these accounted of wit●… the Lord from the Dignity of himself that worketh them For to him it is said thou hast also wrought all eur Works in us To that Question Will he say that Abraham did not in Faith circumcise his Son Answ. But he was Justified before that for Faith was reckoned to Abraham for Righteousness when he was in Uncircumcision Though every Act of true and living Obedience both before under and since the Law was done in Faith yet are they not made Righteous by the meer Works but by that Power and Spirit of Faith that works them And If A S we are made Sinners and condemnable by One Man's Disobedience we be S O made Righteous and Justifiable by the Obedience of One then we must be as really made Righteous in the second Adam as we were Sinners in the first Adam A S in Adam all dye S O in Christ shall all be made alive A S we have born the Image of the Earthly S O we must bear the Image of the Heavenly which is not from a meer Imputation o●… either without a real Participation They are not Innocent or Clear in themselves who are either made or reckoned Sinners by one Man's Disobedience nor are they without the Participation of Christ's Righteousness in themselves who are made Righteous by his Obedience They that receive abundance of Grace and of the Gift of Righteousness shall reign in Life by Jesus Christ Death hath passed upon all men for that all have sinned Sin hath really reigned in man unto Death and so must Grace reign through Righteousness unto Eternal Life God's Imputations or Reckonings to Man are true whom he reckons Sinners are inherently such and whom he reckons Righteous are so likewise but the Hypocrite who can Justifie the Wicked is an Abomination unto God Howbeit contrary to what I have said S. S. reasons viz. We are not Partakers of this by our actual Commission of it I●… cannot be said we are Par●…ers of Adam's Sin in that we are personal Offenders it must be therefore by Go●…●…mputation Obs. By this he hath explained his ●…se of the Imputation of Ada●…'s Sin and Christ's 〈◊〉 and s●… of 〈◊〉 and Justification and ●…o by this Rom. 〈◊〉 ●…9 is thus to be read AS by One man's Disobe●…ience many were made Si●…ners that were not actual Sinners SO by the Obedience of One many are made Righteous who never actually obeyed an easy pleasant and Sin-pleasing Doctrine for the Ungodly Sinners and Hypocrites ●…rom whence also it follows that they are condemnable by Adam ' s Disobedience Children are not excepted he saith who never committed actual Transgression and so they are Justified by Christ's intire Obedience who never actually obe●…yed him and what 's this but still the old Abomination to Condemn the Innocent and Justifie the Guilty or Wicked S. S. adds Let the words be weighed by one man's Disobedience many were made Sinners it is not here said By many Personal Disobediences we are made Sinners though this be true c. p. 96. Rep. By one man Sin entered into the World Death by Sin yet it is not Adam's Sin intirely as a particular Person that is imputed though from one Offence sprung many ●…or Death reigning in Man is an Effect of his own sinning being in the Nature and Image of the first Man in whom all dye Death hath passed over all Men for that all have sinned even over as many as have not sinned after the Similitude of Adam's Transgression which still implies they have sinned after some Similitude or Manner yea many in a more gross Manner then Adam sinned that yet think themselves Imputatively Righteous It was not only the Offence as committed by him alone but the Offence or Sin and Nature of Enmity continued and committed by men themselves and also springing up into many Offences which makes many Sinners As it is not the Father's eating sower Grapes alone that sets the Childrens Teeth an Edge but every Man that eateth the sower Grape his Teeth shall be set on Edge the Soul that sinneth it shall dye every man shall dye for his own Iniquity And further Why should Adam as a particular Person be so very much exclaimed against and blamed whereby many Hypocrites think to ease themselves and over look their own Iniquities seeing that you know not but that Adam found Repentance and Forgiveness However since Adam sinned there were Righteous Generations left namely Seth whom God appointed unto Adam as another Seed in stead of Abel Gen. 4. 25 26. and 5. 3. and afterward Enoch came forth who walked with God Gen. 5. 24. and Noah and his Family with whom God renewed
Command which requireth us to be perfect he saith God commands to offer Isaac he purposeth Isaac shall not be offer'd this shews he doth not efficaciously will every thing he commands p. 64. Rep. First This Instance is not pertinent in this Case it being a peculiar Command and Act to Abraham and not common to the Saints nor relative to those Commands injoyning Holiness of Li●…e which they are all concerned in 2dly He is mistaken in saying He purposeth Isaac shall not be offered for the Scripture saith That by Faith Abraham when he was tryed offered up Isaac and he that had received the Promises offered up his only begotten Son Hebr. 11. 17. It is evident that neither God's Command nor Purpose was to kill Isaac but that Abraham's Faith should be tryed in offering him up which by Faith he did in which he said God would provide himself a Lamb for a Burnt Offering Gen. 22. 8. And he accounting that God was able to raise him up even from the Dead from whence also he received him in a Figure Hebr. 〈◊〉 19. But this is no Proof that it is not his Pleasure his Commands requiring perfect Love Obedience s●…ould be kept and they that enter into the Covenant of Grace enter into an Agreement with God in Christ which though it remits Sins past yet gives no Liberty to continue in Sin neither is it any Condition of this Covenant that the Being of Sin should remain to keep the Saints humble for by this Covenant God taketh away Sin not only by Remission but by Receiving the Soul into Agreement with himself Jesus Christ is our Surety Mediator and Advocate both in his being a Propitiation or Sacrifice for the Sins of the whole World that upon the Act of Faith in his Blood and believing in his Name Sins past may be remitted as also in his inabling us to obey the Conditions and Obligation of the Covenant of Grace or Law thereof which we are under and in fulfilling the Promises thereof to us for without him we can do nothing we can obtain ●…o P●…iviledge but in him in whom the Promises of Cod are all Yea and Amen And seeing God receiveth true Believers in Christ into Agreement with himself Christ being their Surety doth not exempt them from the Payment of what is their due Obedience but inables them thereto for to be in Covenant or Agreement with God is neither consistent with disagreeing with him by Transgression or sinning against him When or where Sin shall be removed after Death he resolves not He tells us not How long a time shall be between Death and the perfect Removal of Sin for a Purgatory he seemeth not in words to own how nearly related soever his Doctrine be to it in his saying It sufficeth me to be assured from God's Word it Sin is not done away in this Life it shall in the next But where and what that God's Word is that so assureth him That Sin is not done away in this Life but in the next he hath not yet demonstrated nor proved nor doth he clear himself of the Pope's Doctrine of a Purgatory but confesseth That no unclean thing shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven since Christ is to present us holy unblamable and unreprovable in his Sight a glorious Church not having Spot or Wrinkle p. 64. Mark here how he hath manifestly contradicted his pleading for the Being of Sin in the Saints and saying It is not done away in this Life and yet the Church must be holy unbl●…mable and unreprovable in his Sight not having Spot or Wrinkle but then he addeth further as a part of what Christ hath merited touching this Point and in pag. 67. He hath perfected forever them that are sanctified meritoriously To which I say Hath Christ merited or purchased the Church's Beauty and Perfection even perfect Sanctification and yet is it his Father's good Pleasure that the Church shall not receive such Perfection here Or that the Being of Sin shall not be remov'd in this Life Were it not Blasphemy to suppose That Christ hath bought for man that which his Father will not allow him But I must suppose his Sence of Christ's Merit Dignity Righteousness and Obedience as not to be really partaken of and inherited by true Believers in this Life but only in their Sence of Imputation which can be neither real nor true to reckon themselves Holy Unblamable Unreprovable without Spot or Wrinkle while yet spotted with Sin and inherent Corruptions though still I grant that every Degree of Real Righteousness true Faith and Sincerity to God springing up from his own Life in his Children is owned and accounted of in his Sight for the Lord is well-pleased for his own Righteousness sake Isa. 42. 21. and the Fruits of his own Spirit are acceptable to him from the highest Growth and Maturity to the least Appearance breathing and breaking forth thereof in the Soul yea from Israel's Tryumphing and Glorying in the Lord to Niniveh's believing God and repenting and God commands us nothing but what he inableth us to perform although against this S. S. objects that he commands from the Beginning of Life to the End of Life to continue in all things written in the Law to do them but where this is commanded us in Scripture he shews us not We are satisfied that God layeth no more upon man as to doing or performing then he inableth man for his Commands are gradually and orderly imposed to be obeyed according to the Ability that he giveth the Creature he doth not command a Child to do a Man's Work he is no hard Master So in the Covenant of Grace there is a Growth from one Degree of Strength to another 〈◊〉 Faith to Faith from Little Children to Young Men c. and so according to their Growth and Capacity God requires Obedience and doth not impose Impossibilities o●… them And if so be that the Power and Glory of God be more manifest in the Second Covenant or in the New Covenant of Grace then in the First Covenant by how much the greater man's Priviledge is in this by so much the more he is inabled by the same Power cheerfully to live in Obedience and Faithfulness under it Therefore S. S. his being assured That Sin is not done away in this Life and his Con●…ession That a Believer dyes unto Sin by degrees and so AT his Death the whole of Christ's Merit is immediately applyed whereby Sin is forever totally abolished These are not consistent neither doth he write as a man of Experience of the Work of God what Assurance foever he pretends sor to say That his Sin is not done away in this Life or that it sh●…ll in the next and yet to say It is totally abolished AT his Death These are as Contradictory as to say That S●…n is done away At Death and yet it is not done away till After Death which is saith he to the last Trump will Sin be in the Saints
all that may be Necessary to be known therefore the Light is Insufficient The first will be answer'd by what I have already said the Reason being the same for the Sufficiency of the Light against such as charge it with Defect because they do not do what they should as against those who so impeach it because they do those things which they should not As for not knowing all that is to be known I deny it utterly For things are necessary in reference to their proper times That may be requisit to morrow which is not to day It is fit for Children to learn to read yet it is most necessary that they should begin to spell first If a School-Master should be charg'd with Insufficieney because he tells not little Children all that he knows as soon as he initiates them in the first Principles of Learning he would think himself unreasonably dealt with What must we then conclude but that the Master may be very capable were his Scholar so that if the Scholar observe and obey his Master he will increase in his Learning that the Defect of the Scholar should not be laid upon his Master that to tell or amuse him about things unsuitable to his present Capacity were the ready Way to overcharge and wholy Spoile him And Consequently that the Tutor not telling his Pupil all that is fit to be known at once implyes no Defect in or Ignorance of those things in the Tutor which to apply Scripturally in short thus If you do my Will you shall know more of my Doctrine I have yet many things to say but you are not able to bear them now In short If for a Man to say that the Light of the Gospel for so T. Hicks thinks Pauls was to be charg'd with Insufficiency because it discover'd not to every Believer all those ineffable things revealed to the Apostle would be both False and Antichristian to what an Extremity doth Tho. Hicks's Zeal lead him in his passionate Endeavours against the blessed Light of the Son of God as he is the Inlightner of Mankind who charges it with Insufficiency because it Reveals not to every Individual in every Age what HE shall ever know it self or shall be known in future times The Light then is not Insufficient though it tell not all at one time which may be a Duty to the End of the World especially in extraordinary Cases whilst it informs me or any Man of Daily Duty Yea the Light is Sufficient in Point of Discovery whilst it shews unto any Person something more then they do and which they ought to perform If T. Hicks will say and can prove that he is come to the Upshot of the Light 's Teachings that he has Learnt whatever it is possible for the Light of Christ to Teach him and yet is able to make appear that there is some thing further wanting he will prove himself not only above Men but God also who is the Fountain of all Light that searcheth the Hearts and tryeth the Reins of Men by the Inshinings of his manifesting Light and which as obey'd leads to God who is the Fulness of all Light and Life But indeed this Light is the Savour of Death the Wages of Sin to all that Rebel against it and the Savour of Life to those only who are Obedient to it For Such shall not walk in Darkness but have the Light of Life But whilst he pleads against a Sin-less State and shows so Sin-full an One in his Scribles let him cover his Face for Shame for all his Attempts against the Lights Sufficiency for in that State he shall never know the Life and Vertue of the Light To conclude If the Light be allowed to Manifest all things that are Reproveable then by the just Reason of Contraries should it be Sufficient to Discover all things that are Approveable with respect to Man's Faith Salvation and Duty If the Light tells it is Evil not to Believe in God it follows that to Believe in God is according to that Light Within And if it Reproves T. Hicks for being Passionate it consequently Teacheth him that he ought to be Patient If the Light Condemns Theft it necessarily Instructeth to Honesty If it Reprove me for doing my own Will it implies I ought to do his Will to whom I ow all and if it Reproves for Sin it Instructeth to Holiness without which none shall see God In short If it Manifest Reproveable Things to be such at the same time It Condemns them and Teacheth Things quite Contrary The Unfruitful Works of Darkness are judg'd by the Light that the Holy Fruits of the Light may appear ●…e were Darkness but now are ye Light in the Lord and The Reproof of Instruction is the Way of Life He that comes out of the Reproved Darkness walks in the Approved Light and who so answers the Holy Reproof unto Such is Sealed up THE INSTRUCTION OF THE WAY OF LIFE And this brings me to the third Property of the Light with respect to Men and that is It doth not only Manifest and Condemn Sin and discover and incline to Purity but as adhered to or rather that Principle which is this Light it is able in Point of Power and Efficacy to Redeem from Sin and Lead to a State of Highest Felicity I am the Light of the World said Jesus himself he that follows me shall not walk in Darkness but shall have the Light of Life In which it is very evident that The same Light which Manifests Darkness Redeems from it unto a State of Light and Life that is to say Those who confidently believe in Christ as he manifests himself a Light to condemn Sin in every mans Flesh whom he hath therefore illuminated and obediently follow the Holy Requirings and yield to the Heavenly Discoveries of that Blessed Appearance relinquishing the Pleasures of Sin which last but for a season and taking up the daily Cross such shall most assuredly find that Divine Principle which in reference to the Dark State of Men and that Discerning and Conviction it brings is rightly denominated Light to have also Power and Efficacy to Save from that which it manifests and condemns and to bring unto that Glory which it gives a true Revelation of For that same Word of God who is called the true Light that inlighteneth all Mankind is also the Life Power Wisdom and Righteousness of the Father in whom are hid all the Treasures of Wisdom and unto whom all Power both in Heaven and in Earth are committed who is Heir of all things who also said While ye have the Light for their Day of Visitation was almost over or as some Translations more truly have it While you have a little Light IN YOU believe or walk in it believe in the Light that ye may be Children of th●… Light Again I am come a Light into the World that whosoever believes in me should not abide in Darkness
is Light 2. Who can have no Fellowship with him such as walk in Darkness that is Sin 3. Who have Fellowship with him such as walk in the Light as he is Light 4. the Reason why is given because such as walk in the Light are there sure experimentally to feel the Vertue of Christ's Blood to cleanse them from all Unrightcousness Where observe that the Light 's leading out of Darkness that is Unrighteousness is the same with the Blood of Jesus Christ cleansing from all Sin Sin and Darkness and to be cleansed from the one and to be translated from the other is equivalent otherwise a Man might be delivered from Darkness and walk in the Light and not be cleansed from Sin which is that Darkness a thing Absurd and Impossible In short they go together By this 't is evident that the Light being walkt in doth directly lead to God and Fellowship with him who is the Saving Light and Health of all Nations and consequently that the Light leads to Eternal Salvation Many are the Denominations that are given in Scripture to one and the same Being or Condition Christ is called The Word the Light the Saviour Emanuel a Rock a Door a Vine a Shepherd c. A State of Sin is sometimes called Darkness Death Disobedience Barrenness Rebellion Stiff-neckedness Eating of Sowr Grapes And Wicked Men Bryars Thorns Thistles Tares Dead Trees Wolves Goats c. On the contrary a State of Conversion is sometimes expressed by such words as Purged Refined Washed Cleansed Sanctified Justified Led by the Spirit Baptized by one Spirit into one Body Regenerated Redeemed Saved Bought with a Price c. And Persons so qualified The Children of God Children of Light Heirs of Glory Lambs Sheep Wheat And that by which they become or continue thus Light Spirit Fire Sword Hammer Power Grace Seed Truth Way Life Blood Water Bread Word Unction that leadeth into all Truth All which respectively is but one and the same in Nature That is Sin or a Sinful State is so variously denominated from the divers Operations and Discoveries of the Nature of it in Wicked Men. The like may be said of the several Vertues in Good and Holy Men and so of that one Divine Principle which so qualifies and preserves them For as the Primitive Saints felt the Operation of the One Holy Principle so they denominated it to men in Darkness they call'd it Light to such as believed and obeyed It became a Leader and those who witnessed their Sins conquer'd their Lusts cut down their Hearts broken and their Souls Washed Redeemed and daily Nourished they called that Divine Principle a Sword Fire Hammer Water Flesh Blood and Bread and Seed of Life In short The same Heavenly Principle became Light Wisdom Power Counsel Redemption Sanctification and Eternal Salvation unto those who believed in it So that the Variety of Expressions in the Scriptures must not be taken for so many distinct things in kind no nor sometimes in Operation And indeed notwithstanding that Light T. Hicks would have lodg'd in the bare Scriptures exclusive of the Spirit all the Men of the World met together would be confounded to give a true Account of the Matter therein contained if they were not Living Experimental Witnesses For as he is not an Evidence sufficient in Laws Humane that was not an Eye or Ear Witness neither are they Evidences for God and Christ who are not Eye and Ear Witnesses of the Light Spirit Grace and Word of God in the Heart And I boldly affirm the Scriptures speak no more for such as are not Inheritors of that Blessed Condition they declare of in some Measure or other then any Deed of Gift would do for a Person no wayes Nam'd or Interested therein It is time then for T. Hicks and his Partners to look about them lest the Midnight-Cry overtake them and their Professing Lamp be found without Oyl For I must needs tell him in the Beloved Disciple's Language He that saith he is in the Light and 〈◊〉 his Brother is in the Darkness even until now And in my own Language That I take that to be their State who shew so much Envious Displeasure against an Harmless People and those in particular that never yet Offended much less Justly provokt them But would they bring their Thoughts Words and Deeds to the Light in their own Consciences and let true Judgment pass upon them and patiently undergo the Heavenly Chastisements for their Disobedience to and Vilifying of the Light they would come to witness a turning from the Darkness to the Light and continuing therein as that Holy Way in which the Ransomed of the Lord alwayes did do and shall walk through all Generations they would know the Injoyment of Eternal Peace Yea such is the Excellency of Christ the true Light that as He was First so shall He be the Last when all Outward Performances Writings Worships yea the whole World shall be at an End the Use and Excellency of the Light will remain forever as saith John the Divine And they shall see his Face and his Name shall be written in their Fore-Heads and there shall be no Night there and they need no Candle neither Light of the Sun for the LORD GOD GIVETH THEM LIGHT and they shall Reign forever and ever Amen CHAP. VIII An Objection against the Light 's Antecedent Being to Christ's Coming It is prov'd to have been known to be a Saving Light from Adam's day through the Holy Patriarchs and Prophets time down to Christ's from the Scriptures of Truth HAving then plainly prov'd from Scripture 1. That the Light is Saving since the time of Christ beginning with its first Appearance as Manifesting Sin 2. Condemning of It. 3. Redeeming from It as obeyed And that the same Principle which is called Light is the Seed Grace Truth Word Spirit Power Unction Water Way Life Flesh and Blood and therefore not a Distinct Being from that which T. Hicks himself if he will own plain Scripture must confess doth Save I call it the LIGHT OF SALVATION OR THAT LEADS TO SALVATION But there remain yet several Objections to be Answered which done we shall immediately proceed to give Judgment upon the Question Who or What this Light is with respect to all our Adversaries Cavils Obj. Though you have thus far evinc'd the Universality of a Saving Light from the Scriptures since Christ's Life Death Resurrection and Ascension yet that which is the Pinch of the Controversie will be this Where was this before Light Had any this Saving Light they had a Light before it came in that Eminent Manner above One Thousand Six Hundred Years since It is generally believ'd that Christ's then coming benefitted the World with it in case the World universally hath such a Saving Light To which I shall give my Answer both from Scripture History and Reason The first Scripture I shall quote is in the first of Genesis So God created
their Weakness that he might both keep them from gadding after the Pompous Invention and Idolatrous Worship of other Nations and point out unto them under their great Carnality that more Hidden Glory and Spiritual Dispensation which should-afterwards be revealed to wit The Compleat Redemption of the Soul and Raign of the Holy Seed from the Child born and the Son given to the Wonderful Counsellor the Mighty God the Everlasting Father and Prince of Peace of the Increase of whose Government there shall be no End So that then we ought and we do by absolute Force of Truth conclude 1. That the Seed which Seed is Christ was in all Ages with Abraham with the Israelites with the Prophets Therefore he was as well before he came in that prepared Body as then and since 2. Yet it is confest That He was not so clearly revealed perfectly brought forth and generally known before his so Coming as then and since but more darkly figured out by Types and Shaddowy Services which though they Cleans'd not Sav'd not Redeem'd not yet did show forth a more Hidden and Spiritual Substance that was able to Cleanse Save and Redeem and did all that received it and were truly subject to it 3. That it therefore is not at all Absurd that the more Excellent Manifestation of Truth should he Typified and Prophesied of under the Enjoyment of the Lesser since the Reason of the Thing and the Testimonies of the Scripture are so express for it which ends our Answer to this Particular CHAP. XX. The Fourth Part of the Objection stated and considered Christ's Death and Sufferings confessed to and respected they were beneficial The Light of Christ within is the Efficient Cause to Salvation HAving thus considered the Third Part of this great Objection I am now come to what chiefly stumbles People with respect to the Light within at least as I apprehend and that is this Fourth and Last Particular viz. But if the Light in every Man be Christ how doth it bear our Sins and are our Iniquities laid upon it and how can we be said to be Justified Redeemed or Saved by its Blood since all these things are spoken by the Holy Pen-men of the Man Christ or Jesus born at Nazareth Surely you wholy invalidate his Life Death Resurrection Ascension and Mediation by this Belief in the Light This I take to be the very Stress of the Matter collected out of the most Forceable Writings of our Adversaries To which I Answer and let him that reads understand It must be considered in this Last Part of the Objection how those Questions can be applicable to the Light and yet be reconciliable with those Scriptures that seem to attribute all to his Bodily Sufferings I hope to make appear that as we exalt the First so we dare not by any means to slight the Last The Light or rather He that is Light in Man for I have alwayes desired so to be understood Light being a Metaphor or word taken from the outward Day and chiefly so term'd because of Man's Darkness which is thereby discovered hath been as a Lamb slain since the Foundation of the World that is the World had not been long created before the good Order of it and every thing therein being envied by the Fallen Angels that Spirit of Iniquity betrayed Man of his Innocency and Sin by Disobedience prevailing the Light or Principle of Life under whose Holy Leadings Man was placed became Resisted Grieved and as it were Slain which word Slain is also Metaphorical that is to say the Innocent Pure Life was as Wounded unto Death through Man's Disobedience and Lamb-like Image in which Adam was created by him through Rebellion lost Thus that Holy Principle which God placed in the Heart of Adam in which was true Light Life and Power bore the Sin was prest under it as a Cart under Sheaves grieved exceedingly and as it were quencht with Iniquity This hath been the Condition of that Precious and Elect Seed Spirit Light Life Truth or whatever Name equivalent any may please to give it ever since that first Rebellion to this very Day And as in Wicked Men God's Holy Light and Spirit or that Principle which is so called hath been deeply Wounded yea as one Slain so in Good Men that have had a Sence of the World's Abomination hath it also born many Burdens and Weights for the Light and Life is One in All. And those who have been reformed by it and joyned to it have been as One Spirit and have not been without their Share of their Lord 's heavy Sufferings from the Ungodly World which was as well a filling up of Christ's Sufferings that were before his Outward Coming as what to this Generation are behind And as at any time Disobedient Men have harkened to the still Voice of the WORD that Messenger of God in their Hearts to be affected and convinced by it as it brings Reproof for Sin which is but a Fatherly Chastizement ●…o upon true Brokenness of Soul and Contrition of Spirit that very same Principle and Word of Life in Man has mediated and attoned and God has been propitious lifting up the Light of his Countenance and replenishing such humble 〈◊〉 with Divine Consolations So that still the same Christ Word-God who has enlightned all Men by Sin is grieved bearing the Iniquities of such as so sin and reject his Benefits but as any hear his Knocks and let him in he first Wounds and then Heals afterwards he attones mediates and re-instates in the holy Image Behold this is the State of Restitution And this in some Measure was witnessed by the Holy Patriarchs Prophets and Servants of God in old time to whom Christ was substantially the same Saviour and Seed bruising the Serpent's Head that he is now to us what Difference s●…ever there may be in Point o●… Manifestation But notwithstanding the same Light and Life with that which afterwards clothed it it self with that outward Body did in measure inwardly appear for the Salvation of the Souls of Men yet as have often said never did that Li●…●…eminently put ●…orth it self for that End as in that 〈◊〉 and prepared Body so that what he then suffered and did in that transcendent Manisestation may by way of Eminency assume the whole Work unto it self that he ever did before or might do afterwards For doubtless that very Light Life and Power which dwelt in that Flesh●…y Tabernacle eminently was the Convincer Condemner Saviour and Redeemer yet not only as confined to that Body but as revealed in the Hearts of Men as he was in Paul who not consulting with Flesh and Blood against the Lord of Glory willingly receive him in to bind the strong Man spoil his Goods and cast him out that He might Reign And that the Divine Life Light Spirit Nature of Principle which resided in that Body was the efficient Cause of Salvation observe the Title that is given from the great Work he was to
begotten Who then is my Rule to inform order strengthen and lead through the whole Experience but the same Spirit All Doctrinal Scripture was experienced before written or they had not been true Witnesses who wrote it Now that which was their Rule can only guide us into the same Experiences nor are they to be known before experienced Do my Will and you shall know more of my Doctrine saith Christ. I read the History of such things This saves not Neither can the History be the Rule leading into the Mystery That belongs only to the Spirit that searcheth the deep things of God Consequently the Spirit and not the Scripture is the Rule for so believing and living Obj. But is not this to make void the Protestants Plea against the Papists That the Scriptures are the Rule of Faith and Practice Answ. No such matter For the Question was not Whether the Spirit of Christ or the Scripture was the Rule But Whether the Scripture God's Tradition or Popish Traditions were the Rule to measure the Truth of Doctrines and Practices by We grant that particular Scriptures rightly understood may measure what is agreeable or disagreeable to them that is such Doctrines and Practices as are contrary to that part of Scripture more particularly relating to our dayes are questionable by the Scripture especially since all Parties pretend what they say and do is according to Scripture Yet this concludes not the Scripture to be the General and Evangelical Rule Obj. But if God had not revealed those things that are in Scripture by it to us ●…ow could they have been known by us Answ. They were known by the Light and Spirit of Christ before written from whence they are call'd Scripture Therefore it is said That the Prophets searched diligently what and what manner of Time the Spirit of Christ that was in them did signifie when it testified before-hand of the Sufferings of Christ. Nor are they ever the more reveal'd to the blind and dark Mind because there written The Mysteries of Regeneration are as puzling to Natural Wit and Earthly Wisdom as before Therefore well said Epiphanius Only to the Children of the Holy Ghost all the Holy Scriptures are plain and easie Mens going to hammer out Principles without that infallible Guide and Rule hath been the Cause of that great Confusion that is over Mankind about Religion Obj. But how could you have known those Prophecies to be true for that is not matter of Witnessing but Fore-telling Answ. That is an extraordinary Revelation not falling within the ordinary Discoveries absolutely necessary to mans Salvation but to shew his Power Faithfulness that he is God and can and will fore-tell and bring to pass But therefore must there be an Extraordinary Light or Spirit and not rather an Extraordinary Sight and Se●…ne from one and the same Light and Spirit in them Besides That which gives me to believe and savour it to be from the Spirit and not by Imposture is my Rule for believing it Now that the Spirit so doth Calvin and Beza too as before cited assert for me viz. The same Spirit that spake by the Mouth of the Prophets must pierce into our Hearts to perswade us that they faithfully declared that which was committed to them of God Obj. But this Light you speak of could not tell you which way Sin came into the World That there was an Adam and Eve that they fell after that manner that Sin so entered the World That Christ was born of a Virgin suffered Death and rose again That you ought not to Swear in any case c. if the Scriptures had not told you so Answ. That is boldly said But consider well Moses sayes the vulgar Opinion had that Account above Two Thousand Years after the Creation by Revelation which we find in Genesis Now that there could be no Revelation without this Divine Light or Spirit which is the Life of the Eternal Creating Word must needs be granted For the Spirit of God knoweth only the Things of God and whatever makes manifest is Light And that the Spirit and Light are one though two Names has been sufficiently evidenced If then it was this Light of the Eternal Word that delivered these past things to Moses and gave that Prospect of future things to the Prophets as no doubt it was if Scripture be indubitable then to say the Light or Spirit could not do it is Blasphemous Again To argue because the Light does not reveal every Circumstance of History to each Individual that hath already an Account that therefore it could not is ridiculous Were the History of the Transactions of Christ and his Followers wanting as before Moses was that of Adam and his Posterity and that the Lord saw it needful to acquaint Mankind therewith no doubt but the Light and Spirit which revealed the Account of the Creation above Two Thousand Years after to Moses and fore-told several Hundred Years many of those Transactions of Christ by the Prophets would also have supplyed that Want But inasmuch as an Account is extant and therefore not needed 't is vain to make that Objection Again It does not follow because every man has a Measure of Light to inform and rule him that therefore he must needs know all which that Light knows or is able to reveal to him I return that Argument thus upon our Adversaries They say they have the Spirit of God Then they know all that the Spirit of God knows or can reveal to them If the latter be absurd then the former Again say they The Light within did not reveal Christ to the Gentiles that Christ should be born of a Virgin c. therefore insufficient I return upon them thus The Spirit of God given to the Children of Israel Neh. 9. 20. did not acquaint them that Christ should be born of a Virgin nor much more of his Life and Bodily Transactions therefore the Spirit of God was insufficient The like may be concluded against the Spirit in the Prophets For 't is manifest from 1 Pet. 1. 10 11. that the Spirit had not revealed to all the Prophets the Time of Christ's Appearance and Sufferings was the Spirit therefore an insufficient Rule to them But that which falls heaviest upon our Adversaries is this That the Scriptures by their own Argument are a most imperfect Account themselves of what was done not relating the hundredth part of things therefore as insufficient in not relating what is behind as they would weakly render the Light or Spirit in not revealing to every Individual those things already related Nay they may as well infer Insufficiency to the Spirit or the Light within in that it does not now shew all that shall be to the End of the World which in their proper Seasons there will be a Necessity to know as to reflect insufficiency upon it c. because it did not foretel things now past to ●…ormer Ages or needlesly reveal
in Fundamentals Answ. First we thought that Water-Baptism had been a fundamental Point with the Baptists and do they and Presbyterians agree therein 2. Have not the Baptists whom Presbyterians call Anabaptists been accounted Hereticks by the Presbyterians Why do they now joyn against the Quakers so called 3. Dare he say there are no good People among the Quakers that he makes good People's being among Presbyterians a Reason of his joyning with them against us Is it not easy to see a manifest Dissimulation and feigned Confederacy therein among these our Opposers If our Opposer saith we have not inserted his Explications upon his Assertions Answ. That 's his Work he hath Liberty to do it himself But he hath not done it nor vindicated these his Assertions in his Pamphlet Christ's Light within asserted as it is Divine and therefore a sufficient Rule of Life unto Salvation to all that truely obey it and vindicated from Tho. Hicks his dark Exceptions fallasious and impious Arguments consisting of manifest Ignorance Confusion and Ranterism which are here inserted as they were exhibited in a Paper afterwards owned and signed by him HIs harge against G.W. That George Whitehead affirmed that there was that Light in every Man if followed that was sufficient to Salvation T. Hick's Assertions against this 1. In Answer to which it is asserted that the Light in every Man could not understand the Doctrine of Instituted Worship 2. That the Light in every Man could not understand the Doctrine of Jesus Christ concerning his coming to save Sinners 3. The Light in every Man could not bring him to the Understanding how Sin came into the World 4. The Light in every Man cannot acquaint him with the Knowledge of the Doctrine of the Resurrection of the Dead Reply G. Whitehead still affirms that God hath gratiously afforded that Light to every Man which he ought to follow and is sufficient to guide him to Salvation To his four first Assertions I query Is that Life which is the Light of Men John 1. 4. divine in it self the Light of Jesus Christ as the Eternal Word able to apprehend and bring Man clearly to see the Invisible things of God even his Eternal Power and Godhead as confessed from Rom 1. 19 20. And yet is this Light neither able to understand the Worship that 's due to him the Doctrine of Christ Jesus concerning his coming to save Sinners how Sin came into the World nor yet to acquaint Man with the Knowledge of the Resurrection can the Light apprehend or bring men to see God's Eternal Power and yet neither bring them to understand the Cause of Man's Separation and Death from God nor his Duty or Restoration to God again How manifestly in consistent and contradictory are these and how plainly doth he charge men's Ignorance and Defects for want of Obedience upon the Light within And then what is it given for and what can it do But these Assertions are grounded upon his taking it for granted that it is not a Light of Grace but of Nature when that Life which is the Light of Men is granted to be divine in its own being able to discover the Eternal Power and Godhead then which there is not a higher Power but how this divine Light should become Natural as a Creature we are still to enquire as that which neither T. H. ●…or his Brethren have ever yet proved That the Light within every Man could not be a Rule for it must be a Light of Nature or of Grace This Light cannot be understood the Light of Grace because the Scripture doth suppose a time when Men are without it It is said after those Dayes I will put my Laws in their Hearts and they shall know me that must be the Light of Grace Answ. Where doth the Scripture say that the Life of Christ which was with and in the Father which is the Light of men is the Light of Nature and not a Light of Grace The man in taking this for granted most filthily begs the Question and that contrary to his own Concession before neither doth the Scripture suppose a time wherein Men have no Light of Grace in them as he insinuates but a time when they are out of the New-Covenant and Strangers in their Minds to it as not being come into that Agreement with God or Union with his Light which this Covenant doth import And because the State and Tenour of it is both the having God's Laws written in his People's Hearts and Minds their knowing him to be their God and they to be his People and it s a Covenant of Mercy and Forgiveness of Sins past It doth not therefore follow that none of his Law is in them before they come to this Holy Attainment and Blessed Agreement though his Laws are not so universally written or deeply engraven in their Hearts before for it s now granted by divers of our Opposers who are of the more moderate 1. That the pure or holy Law which God placed in man's Hearts before Transgression was never wholy abliterated though much clouded by man's Disobedience 2. Some of these Anabaptists do confess to a Light in man which reproves for Evil and excites to good which they say is the Substance of the morral ●…aw or first Covenant which enjoyns Man truely to love and worship God and to love our Neighbours equally with our selves to do justly c. That this the very Heathens or Gentiles have in them And then I ask if this Law doth not appertain to the New-Covenant as one principle Law thereof also and never intended to be destroyed by Christ but fulfilled and renewed in his Followers who have Union with it as having a more deep impression and being more fully discovered in the Hearts of Men when become Children of this Covenant then before Was not Love the fulfilling of the Law and was not this preached by Christ's Ministers and was not love one to another both the Old and New Commandment yea the Old Commandment renewed and established If not a Light of Grace in every Man then it must be the Light of Nature but the Light in every Man cannot be sufficient to Salvation Acts 11. 18. When they heard these things they held their Peace and glorifyed God saying then hath God also to the Gentiles granted Repentance to Life then they had it not before Answ. His Argument still depends upon his former Fallacy that 't is not a Light of Grace but a Light of Nature that is in every Man as also in putting Repentance for the Light of Grace he puts the Effect for the Cause as if no man had saving Grace or a Light thereof before Repentance or Conversion whereas his Argument doth not at all prove that those Gentiles who received the Word of God had not a Light of Grace but only of Nature in them before Peter preached Jesus Christ to them but rather the contrary that it was a Light of Grace a
Light of Jesus Christ and secret Power of God that moved in them and opened their Hearts and seriously inclined them to hear the Gospel preached and which Light in them closed with the lively Testimony thereof which did concur with the Light to the opening their Understandings and turning their Minds from Darkness and Sin to the Light shining in their Hearts and when those of the Circumcision heard how well the Gentiles were prepared to receive the Gospel and the Effect of it Act. 10. and 11. Chap. They were then convinced of God's Graciousness to those of the Uncircumcision as well as to themselves their contending with Peter for going unto and eating with men uncircumcised was then stopped when they heard these things they held their Peace and glorified God saying then hath God also to the Gentiles granted Repentance unto Life And its evident that Cornelius and the rest that received the Word as preached had a Work of saving Grace in their Hearts before which prepared them and begot true desires in them after Life and Salvation Also when Barnabas come to Antioch and had seen the Grace of God he was glad and exhorted them all that with Purpose of Heart they would cleave unto the Lord Act. 11. 23. So this Light of the Grace of God both to and in them was great Encouragement to him so to exhort them but if there had been no Saving Grace in their Hearts what Effect could such Exhortation or Preaching have been of unto them If the Light within be sufficient to save Men then it renders Christs Coming and Suffering needless This is a blind Inference still opposing the Light of Christ within yea and all that is of God in Man as Insufficient and so as neither discovering Christ's Coming nor the Effect of his Suffering or as i●… Men might be saved by his Coming and Suffering without Respect to his Light within which shews gross Darkness as if there were not a Concurrence between the Light within and the End of Christ's Coming and Suffering and he might as well say that if the Ingrafted Word which is within be able to save the Soul then Christ's Coming and Suffering was needless he should rather have sai●… that Christ's Coming and Suffering without was because men were turned from his Light within for if all had walked in his Light within he had not been persecuted and murthered but this man's Argument supposeth Christ's Coming and Suffering to be for the Supply of some great Defect or Insufficiency of his Light within as if man had so well improved it and found it too scanty or Insufficient and therefore by this Christ must suffer and die for his own Light within to supply it whereas Christ dyed for the Ungodly for all men that were dead in Sin who had disobeyed and transgressed his Light within and though there be a Reconciliation by his Death yet the being saved is by his Life whose Life is the Light of men which for men to be turned to in themselves and therein to live to God varies not from the Blessed End of Christs coming and Suffering while he works in man by his Light and Power within both in shewing him Sin saving him from it as he believes in the Light becomes a Child of the Light thereof as Christ exhorted and if we walk in the Light of God the Blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all Sin The Light within cannot be a sufficient Rule because then there would be no certainty of Truth or Error of Sin or Duty for that which one Man maketh Light to Day the same Man will call Darkness to morrow one Man calleth one thing a Sin another calleth it a Duty by this there will be no such thing as Sin but only in the Opinions of Men. Answ. 1. If there can be no Certainty of Truth or Error Sin or Duty by the Light within how is he certain that there is any real Light at all in him 2. His placing such uncertainties and those various and contrary Opinions of men upon the Light within and rendring it an Insufficient Rule either to distinguish between Truth and Error Sin or Duty this is contrary to both Christ's and the Apostles Testimony as namely that it is a manifesting Light both of good and Evil both of those deeds wrought in God and those that are reproved Joh. 3. 20 21. Ephes. 5. 13. wherefore the Light of Christ within is a sufficient Rule 3. And what Proof is it against the Light if one man calls it Light to day and the same call it Darkness to morrow or that one man calleth one thing a Sin another calleth it a Duty doth this therefore prove the Light not a Sufficient Rule Or doth it prove any more then that there are those that put Darkness for Light and Light for Darkness and that call Evil good and good Evil Isa. 5. 20. or those that call that a Sin which others call a Duty If it must ●…om hence be argued therefore that there is no such certain Discovering Light or Rule in man to distinguish these may it not aswell be argued that therefore there is no such thing as Truth or Duty to be distinguished from Error and Sin And doth not this directly lead into Ranterism and finally into Atheism let the Serious Reader judge If the Light within be a sufficient Rule then I have a sufficient Rule within me because you say every Man hath it and I am bound to obey it In Obedience to this Rule I oppose your Errors and in opposing your Errors one of our Lights cannot be a sufficient Rule because such a vast difference between us then one of us hath not a sufficient Rule Answ. However he hereby grants the Light in one of us to be a sufficient Rule pretending that he obeys this Rule and here he hath found another Rule for a Christian besides the Scriptures and then they are not the only or sole Rule of Faith and Practice though its evident he doth not obey the Light within while he represents it so variable and uncertain and the Opposition and difference between us to arise from Light in both whereas the Light is but one and changeth not that divine Principle of Life which is the Light of men is immutably pure and cannot err however the Creature doth therefore it follows that both of us cannot be led by the Light in such direct Opposition for its Darkness that opposeth the Light After his so grosly and impiously slighting and invalidating the Light within he does not at all tell us what good it can do or understand nor what good End or Use God hath given it for to Man-kind nor what shall be the End of them of what Nation soever that walk up to the Light within them nor what Condition or End do the Dictates and Leadings of it tend to this he has not at all resolved but in his Darkness dealt most
corruptly and disingenuously against the Light within but I ask T. H. if the Light within him doth not at some times reprove him for his Passion Envy and Railing which ill becomes a Man professing the Patience and Sufferings of Christ No Man can have a sufficient Light to guide him to Salvation that hath not the Spirit of God because no man can understand the things of God but he that hath the Spirit of God but all men have not the Spirit of God therefore all men have not a sufficient Rule to Salvation because all Men have not the Spirit Answ. By this he hath granted the Spirit of God and Light of it to be a sufficient Guide and Rule to Salvation and to bring man to understand the things of God but how well this agrees with their Doctrine That the Scriptures are the only Rule of Faith and Practic●… and not the Spirit nor Light in man and that the Bible is the means of knowing God I refer to the understanding Reader to judge of And what though all men have not the Spirit either in the Union or Possession of it as their Rule can no man have it that thus hath it not already Seeing he concludes that no man can have a sufficient Light to guide him to Salvation that hath not the Spirit what can no man have it Is it not then to be had and yet 't is granted to be the Saint's Rule whenas that which is the Saint's Rule ought to be every man's Rule because every man ought to be a Saint wherefore God hath afforded some divine Light to every man whereby he may be led out of Darkness call upon God obtain Life receive the Spirit which he giveth to them that ask and become Saint for God is ready to give the Spirit to them that truely ask it which only man can do by a Light of it His Argument that all men have not the Spirit is no Proof that every man is not enlightened by Christ for those are said not to have the Spirit who live not to God in it but in Sensuality Jude 19. and yet such were said to be twice dead ver 12. which they could not have been if they had never been quickened yet being twice dead pluckt up by the Roots they are become sensual having not the Spirit i. e. in the Knowledge Rule Exercise and Union of it But whether shall I go from thy Spirit or whether shall I flee from thy Presence Psa. 139. 7. and upon whom doth not his Light arise when every man that cometh into the World is enlightened by Christ. The Light within cannot be ae sufficient Rule because it is made the Character of a wicked Man to do what is right in his own Eyes and to walk after his own Imaginations then that which they do account their Duty may be their Wickedness highest Wickedness and an Argument of God's severe Curse upon them it s said he gave them up to strong Delusions to believe a Lye Answ. Doth then the wicked man follow the Light within him as his Rule in doing what 's right in his own Evil Eyes and in walking in his own Imaginations Or doth God bring such a severe Curse ●…pon any as the giving up to strong Delusions for walking after or following the Light within How horribly blasph●…mous is it either to suppose or imply these things against the Light within to prove it an Insufficient Rule as this man argues placing not only Uncertainties the various Opinions Thoughts and Imaginations of wicked men upon the Light within but their Wickedness and highest Wickedness if they own it their Duty his Argument blasphemously places it upon the Light within most blindly confounding wicked men's Imaginations Wickedness which the Devil is the Author of with the Light in every man without distinction wherein Ranter like he puts Darkness for Light and Light for Darkness which wo is to them that doth Isa. 5. 20. Whereas they that follow their own vain Imaginations and are given up to strong delusions to believe a Lye as T. H. doth are such as have rebelled against the Light rejected the Truth have not glorified God as God nor liked to retain him in their Knowledge see Job 24. 13. Rom. 1. 21. 28. because they obeyed not the Gospel no●… received the Love of the Truth that they might be saved God gave them over to strong Delusions and took Vengeance on them 2 Thes. 1. 8. and Chap. 2. 10 11. Therefore God did afford both a sufficient Light Rule and tendred the Love of the Truth to them as he doth to all else how should they be left without Excuse seeing it is a Righteous thing with God to recompence and render Vengeanc●… on them that know him not for their disobedience It cannot be consistent with his Righteousness in Judgment to bring Tribulation and Anguish upon every Soul that doth Evil or to judge the Secrets of Men by Christ according to the Gospel without ever affording them a Lght of the Gospel or Gospel Nature sufficient to discover Evil and direct to Good and how can Indignation and Wrath come upon them that are Contentious and obey not the Truth but obey Unrighteousness if the Truth did never reach to or enlighten them or how should their not obeying the Truth but Unrighteousness be charged upon them if the Truth were never afforded them Therefore by the same Reason that its confest that God wil render to every man according to his Deeds that there is no Respect of Persons with God it ought to be also confessed or owned that he doth afford to every man a Light of Truth Righteousness sufficient for a Rule to escape Sin and Evil and the Wrath that 's due for it and to direct man unto patient continuance in Well doing to seek for Glory and Immortality that he might obtain eternal Life Glory see consider Rom. 2. throughout which sufficiently signifies 1. The Goodness of God to Man 2. His dispencing of his Grace and Truth to all 3. How Impartial he is Righteous in his Judgment against the disobedient and rebellious who despise his Goodness and thereby bring Wrath upon themselves 4. The acceptance of the Gentiles who obeyed that Law or Light given them though they had not the Law in the Letter of it Wherefore now moderate Reader take notice that the very Ground of our asserting the universal Extent of Saving Grace sufficient Light to Man-kind is 1. The unspeakable Love and Goodness of God as in himself he being Love in the highest 2. His unwillingness that Man should either live or die in Sin he having no Pleasure in the Death of Sinners but rather that they should return and live 3. That he so loved the World that he sent his Son into the World that whosoever believes in him might not perish but have Everlasting Life in that he sent not his Son into the World to condemn
Light from Christ Jesus the Way out of the Fall the second Adam receiving the Light they receive Redemption and Sanctification whereby their Spirits Bodies and Souls are sanctified Great Mystery p. 91. Note here still that he plainly distinguisheth between the Soul and him that redeems and sanctifies it so that the Soul or Spirit of Man is neither God nor Christ but as much inferior in Subordination to God and Christ as the Creature Man is to the Creator or that which is saved and redeemed to him that saveth and redeemeth The sum of what 's said amounts to this candid Account about the Soul viz. That the Soul and Spirit of Man is not the very Being of God nor a part of God though the original Life of the Soul which came out from God is immutable and infinite there is a divine and infinite Life in the Soul of Man which we would have you be sensible of This is the Life of Lives the Soul of Souls the Being of Beings by which the Soul of man is made to subsist in its Being and Immortality whether in the Kingdom of Glory or Pit of Darkness although this original or divine Life in the Soul stands clear and free from both the Guilt Torment and Anguish that comes upon every Soul of Man that does Evil. Every Soul must appear before the Lord in its own proper Image and Nature which it hath born been under and received while in the Body having been subject either to the Spirit and Power of God or to the Spirit and Power of the wicked one wherein it s capable of either being a Vessel of Mercy and Love or a Vessel to hold Wrath and Anguish according to what it doth here love and effect and contract to it self whether Good or Evil. Therefore as it s commanded Take heed to thy self and keep thy Soul diligently c. love the Lord thy God with all thy Soul c. and then thou wilt know Christ to be the Salvation of it The Scripture speaks variously of the Soul and as in divers States and Conditions viz. 1. Of the Soul of God which is Immutable 2. Of the Soul of Man and that 1. Of the Righteous which really pertake of the divine Nature 2. Of the Wicked which pertake of the Nature of Enmity And these differ in their Affections the one being to Good and the other to Evil. Mention is made of the Soul as under the Power of Sin Death and the Grave by man's Disobedience and Fall and of the Soul as quickned raised up and delivered or saved by the Power of Christ the living ingrafted Word Sometimes the Soul is mentioned as including the whole man sometimes as distinguished from the Body sometimes it s esteemed as the Life and sometimes the Spirit or Breath of Life and an active Soul inspired and there is a State wherein the Word of the Lord is said to divide asunder betwixt the Soul and Spirit Now if you do not own a divine Seed or unchangeable Principle of Life in the Soul I query of you 1st Do you or did you ever know your own Souls 2ly What the Soul is in it self and distinct from the Body 3ly What and where is that to be known that is to change the Souls and so the whole man's Affections from Evil to Good while man remains in this Life 4ly Do you own the Souls Immortality that it doth not dye with the Body Do not some of you Baptists hold that the Soul dyeth with the Body and sleeps in the dust of the Earth untill both arise together 5ly Whether Man doth not subsist in his spiritual Being and Parts with a spiritual Capacity and spiritual Sences having a Sense of perpetual Gain or Loss when his Earthly Tabernacle is put off 6ly Whether the Spirit of Man doth not return unto God that gave it to receive its Judgment and Reward 7ly Whether Man must not be born again here of an Immortal and Incorruptible Seed in him if ever he enter into God's Kingd●…m or enjoy Glory hereafter 8thly Whether it be not more necessary for you to wait in humilily to know this immortal Seed in you and to be born thereof then to puzzle your Brains and to busie your Thoughts either about the Quest●…on how and with what Body are the Dead raised Or how your Souls shall be invested hereafter If you remain here in the Enmity slighting and contemning the Light within or the immortal Principle or incorruptible Seed within as T. H. doth scoff and ridiculously droll at our Testimony for it you 'll be clothed with perpetual shame and Contempt hereafter God knows how to reserve the Unjust to the Judgement of his great Day to be punished as both Divels fallen Angels and wicked men are reserved You need not question in what Bodies or Vessels for that you shall be vessels fit to hold inevitable Wrath if here in time you repent not But if you repent and return to the Lord God and love and serve him with all your Souls it will be well with you hereafter God will provide well for you And the Glory wherewith his sanctified Ones shall be invested And of that House wherewith Righteous Souls shall be cloathed upon is beyond the reach of humane Capacities Thoughts or Imaginations of men And you who are contending and quarrelling about your carnal Bodies have not had so much as a Vision of the Glory of the Saints hereafter nor of the Gloriousness and Spirituality of their Body who are as the Angels of God in Heaven Sect. XII The Neck of the Baptist's Cause broken by his own Concession to the Light within in which Christ and his Testimonies are effectually received T. H. HOw could you call the Light within Christ if some Scriptures had not mentioned Christ in you that he is the Life and Light of Men Give me an Instance of any Person in the World that never had Acquaintance of the Scriptures that ever called the Light in every Man by this Name If none can be produced then the Scriptures must be your Rule for this p. 22. Answ. Thou hast said enough in not only granting the Light within to be Christ but also in confessing that he is the Life and Light of men which while he is really so to men this is sufficient for them to call him as he is and appears to them Is it not therefore great Ignorance to imply him an insufficient Rule for men to give Testimony of him while he is a sufficient Rule and Light to them for their Supply and Life in him And what if they cannot call him by all those Names by which he is called in Scripture while they feel him in Vertue and Power to be really what he is called according to their Enjoyment of him It s true we having the Knowledge of him as our Life and Light we must needs reverently own and make use of those Testimonies in Scripture which concur with our Knowledge of him
leave to receive the reward of thy work at the hand of God who is just will not let the guilty go unpunished Whereas thou T. H. seemest offended at us for saying Christ is within in whom as such we have living Faith as opposed to their Faith who know not him within but expect to be saved as believing in a Person without them as thy Phrase is p. 44. It appears this is the manner of thy Expectation and Belief expecting to be saved by Jesus as a Person without thee though thou hast no real Knowledge of him as such But it is to be minded how plainly before thou hast contradicted thy Faith as thus declared where in thy 24th page upon 2 Corinth 5. 16. thou dost thus paraphrase viz. Though I Paul when a Jew and in my unconverted State only knew Christ after a fleshly manner to be a King of the Jews and to deliver only from outward Bondage and Captivity yet henceforth from the time of my Conversion I know him so no more for now I know him according to that design of infinite Grace and Love which he came to carry on in the World in being a Saviour of Sinners from Sin Death and Hell which before I knew not Thus far thou Mark here thy Contradiction is plain one while believing in and expecting to be saved by him as a Person without another while from the Time of my Conversion I know him no more after a fleshly manner for now my Knowledge of him in being a Saviour from Sin c. is not after a fleshly manner but according to the design of infinite Grace and Love From whence it follows that he is not now known to be the absolute Saviour from Sin as a Person without or as considered after a fleshly manner but after a spiritual though he was truely a Saviour in the Dayes of his Flesh by the Power of the Father by which the Saving Work alwayes was and is inwardly effected And indeed his going away or dis-appearing after the Flesh was that his Appearance and Knowledge after the Spirit might be the more revealed and the Disciples might the more know and rely upon the Comforter even Christ's Spiritual Appearance within Sect. XIX The End of Christ's Coming Example and Suffering more truely owned by the Quaker then the Dipper AGain thy implying by Way of Question as if we owned that the Word did take Flesh and that the Flesh was crucified for no other End and Purpose then meerly to be an Example p. 47. is very false against us for our owning Christ in the Flesh to be a living Example does not argue that he took Flesh and was crucified for no other End and Purpose then meerly to be an Example for he came into the World both to bear witness to the Truth to shew Light to do the Works the Father sent him to do to war against the Power of Darkness and Wickedness to exalt the Divinity the Power of the Father and to glorifie him upon Earth to pass through and fulfil the first Covenant and end the Shadows thereof and to set up the new and the living Way that the second Covenant or Testament might be established and confirmed that the Living Ministry thereof might have its free Course being inforced above and beyond all the former Types Shadows and Vails under the first Covenant And so in offering himself up freely both to do his Fathers Will and to suffer for Man-kind he gave himself a Ransom for all to be testified of in due time As also he was an eminent Example and Pattern of Innocence and Piety through all which they that slite his Example have no Benefit in his Sacrifice nor are concerned in the Ends thereof otherwise then to their own Condemnation for Christ's Innocency and Righteousness even in the Dayes of his Flesh as openly manifest do both judge and condemn all the Hypocritical Professors of Christianity who refuse following his Example while they are applying the Ends of his Coming and Suffering Sect. XX. The Baptist's Ignorance and Cavil about Redemption and the Spiritual Discoveries of Christ and his Seed WHereas thou makest a peice of thy Dialogue p. 47. run thus viz. Qua. He viz. Christ comes to work Redemption Christi I query for whom or what did he work this Redemption Qua. There is a Seed to which the Promise of Redemption is which only wants Redemption Thus Nayler in his Book Love to the Lost. Answ. Thou perverts his Words for they are not That this Seed only wants Redemption but wherein only it s seen and received viz. that in the promised Seed Redemption is only seen and received by Man or the Creature as he fully after explains Chr. Nayler saith that Christ is the Election and the Elect Seed and Fox in his great Mystery the Seed hath been laden c. which Seed is the Hope Christ. Answ. If God was so prest as a Cart with Sheaves and his Spirit grieved by mens Sins is it otherwise with his Seed in them And it thou wert not willfully blind and hardened thou wouldst not raise such a Consequence from the Words before perverted by thee while the Scripture mentions the Seed under a two-sold Consideration 1st As to Christ to whom the Promises originally are as being Heir of all 2ly As to the Children of Promise the Children of the Kingdom the true Believers who are truely Israel and of Abraham's Seed according to the Faith Now know that Christ the promi ed Seed hath entred into Sufferings and Travel of Soul to bring forth his Seed as it s written He shall see his Seed he shall see of the Travel of his Soul and shall be satisfied So he came not to redeem or save himself as absurdly thou infers but to bring forth and redeem a Seed which shall serve him and be counted for a Generation And the Life of Christ as manifest in mortal Flesh hath pertaken of the Afflictions of the Upright in all Ages and the Spirit of God is grieved the just Principle oppressed and offended with mens Iniquities and Transgressions So Christ considered as a Seed and in that low Estate is capable of being formed in man both of being raised up in man by the Power of the Father of growing up as a tender Plant and as a Root out of dry Ground and so of receiving Power and Help from him as indeed every Seed that 's sown and every Plant that takes Root is capable of receiving Vertue and Nourishment according to its kind or else it cannot be quickned to Life grow or bring forth Fruit And such a Growth of the immortal Seed was both in Christ and in his People which must be owned if the Seed of the Kingdom within and the Spiritual Birth or forming of Christ within or he as a Seed or Plant of Renown be known and owned or a Suffering Crucifying Dying and Living with Christ be witnessed by man For Christ's Suffering Cross Death Resurrection
Sincere and Upright accompanied with an earnest reaching after Perfection as Paul did p. 51. Answ. What ever Perfection with respect to a full Apprehension or Knowledge was prest after by Paul as Phil. 3. 12 13. yet this his Perfection granted of Sincerity and Uprightness was sinless it was pure in Nature wherein he was capable of attaining a perfect Growth in spiritual Understanding And this is implyed in his pressing after Perfection while he was perfect as appears in his own Words But if in this Sence sincere and upright Men do earnestly reach after a sinless Perfection and that Paul did so then it is attainable otherwise both Paul and the rest did ●…rnestly strive after an Impossibility and this renders both their Praying Striving and Preaching in valid as yours is who put on People earnestly to reach after Per●…ction and yet tell them it is not attainable Upon Mat. 5. 〈◊〉 Be ye perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect thou presumest We intend not that we should be perfectly powerful wise and good as God is Answ. 1st We do not intend that we should be God but holy just and good men renewed after his own Image which is perfect 2ly Though not so perfectly powerful and wise as God is yet while thou withal excludes being good as God is thou art contradictory in saying the meaning of the Text is Be Merciful as your Heavenly Father is Merciful that is Love your Enemies do good to them that hate you p. 51. these are not intelligibly consistent That we must not be good as God is and yet Merciful as he is that is love our Enemies c. I would know if that Soul is not endued with the Goodness of God that is endued with his Mercy and Love so as to do good to enemies Was it not a plain Caracter of being his Children when they did so love their Enemies and do good to them that did hate them See Math. 5. 44 45. But this perfect Resemblance of the Heavenly Father such Sin-pleasers and pleaders as T. H. will not admit of in this Life who is so far from this Love and Goodness towards Enemies that his Enmity leads him to abuse bespa●…ter and defame such of us who never owed him or his Friends ever any ill-will in the World But when doth he expect this divine Resemblance of God or sinless Perfection to be brought forth It doth appear in Answer to the Question stated by him thus viz. Where wouldst thou be perfectly free from Sin if not in this Life His Answer is in Heaven p. 50. Reply He would be perfectly free from Sin in Heaven as he pretends but opposeth Perfection being attainable in this Life accounting that it causeth much Pride Presumption hinders all holy Fear Humility Watchfulness and industrious Endeavours to Persons in a holy Course whereas this all tends to a perfect Life But sufficiently hath he contradicted this his sinful Doctrine against a perfect Freedom where he confesses p. 24 That Christ came to carry on in the World the Design of insinite Grace and Love in being a Saviour of S●…ers from Sin Death and Hell Note here he hath given a deadly Blow to his own Imperfect lame and Sinfull Cause for if Christ came into the World to save Sinners from Sin and to redeem us from all Iniquity then to be so saved is attainable in this Life for Christ is able perfectly to do the Work which he came for that is to save from Sin and to redeem from all Iniquity Again T. H. in his Forgery deals very corruptly according to his ●…onted manner in stating the Christian and the Quaker thus speaking viz. Chr. If thou canst prove a perfect Freedom from Sin 's Inherency c. remember thou must prove it by Scriptures or Instances Qua. I will prove it by both First By Scriptures Phil. 3. 15. Math. 5. 48. Secondly By Instances Many of our Friends do witness it p. 50 51. Reply Herein most falsly and abusively he hath acted the Quakers speaking his own Notorious Forgery as Proo●… They have no Reason to chuse him for their mouth for what needed they bring any Instances of themselves for any Proof when they are left to prove Perfection by Scriptures or Instances while the Scriptures plainly prove it And let me tell him it is not our manner of arguing with our Opposers to tell them that many of our Friends do witness Perfection knowing not only that to be the thing which they seek to reproach us by but also that to plead the Verity of Principles from the meer Credit of Persons asserting them to be no prevalent Proof nor Effect any Conviction while the Persons themselves are slited and abused But our Adversary having thus falsly acted the Quaker as before as saying many of our Friends witness Perfection he declines the Scriptures for it and falls upon personal reviling and to express to the World some wrong Expressions and Mistakes of Persons If he rightly state them which I much question because his many notorious Abuses Sect. XXII Tho. Hicks his groundless Calumny and malitious Railing against G. Whitehead NOw we come to his Railing and Sla●…der against G. Whitehead viz. That he is guilty of Deceit and Falshood in matter of Fact and that he told him he was a Knave that is he was a false deceitful man p. 53. Answ. Here I shall take leave to answer for my self therefore understand Reader what he pretends as his Reason for this abusive Language to me I find two things he pretends for it First He accuseth me with denying mine Opinions when charged with them 2ly He that shall give a false Relation of what another man asserts and does it wifully is false and Deceitful But th●…s he accuseth me and why so But because I acknowledged Explicatio●…s to be given to his Propositions yet gives not the least him what t●…ose Explications were p. 53. Reply To the first what I did deny I still do deny as none of my Opinions as stated by T. H. in his accusing the Quakers That they deny the Person of Christ his Offices Sati●…action and the R●…surrection of the Body I do recharge these upon him as his Lyes and Slanders forged and brought forth in Envy and Darkness as I did in the Paper and publick Debate between us and in so doing I do not deny any Opinion or Tenent of mine or my Friends And he dealt most dis-ingenuously in not laying down my own Words to prove that I denyed the Person of Christ or his Offices Satisfaction and the Resurrection But instead thereof was it either ingenuous or honest to bring my ●…dversary T. D. his Pamphlet stiled a Sinopsis which falsly accuseth me with saying there is no Resurrection from the Dead for Proof Most falsly instancing my Answer to W. Burnet in which Answer quite contrary to what I am accused o●… I have given a plain Confession to the man Christ his Offices Satisfaction and the Resurrection
not that a little degree of the Light Vertue and Knowledge thereof is not saving or sanctifying A small Stream can wash and a little Fire kindle and increase to more and a little convenient Food nourish and satisfie and a little Water quench one's Thirst or a small Seed grow and bring forth great Increase and so a little Light from Christ can increase and shine more and more till it discover the Glory of God in the Face of Jesus Christ the anointed these things are truely known in the Mystery through true Obedience to so much Light or Illumination as God hath given man for he the Glorious Creator hath given a Light to all men sufficient to save or else they could not be left without Excuse but it would reflect upon him for condemning them for Sin if he did not afford them a Light sufficient to guide out of Sin unto Salvation But for our asserting the Light of Christ that is in every Man to be convincing sanctifying and saving H. G. concludes as followeth p. 5. III. The Effect of Christ's Sufferings only known in his Light within H. G. IN this appears your great Darkness and herein you are beguiled and cheated by the Devil to the invalidating of the Meritorious Death and Sufferings of our Lord as if there were no need of his Blood to be poured forth nor of his Intercession p. 5. Answ. Can either Christ's Light within or our following of it invalidate or make void his Sufferings without Or deprive us of the End thereof or of the Vertue of his Blood When they that crucified murthered Christ were turned from his Light within Or can any receive the Benefit of Christ's Sufferings and Blood without or out of his Light within Or are the Sufferings and Death of Christ absolutely meritorious for Man's Justification without any Dependance upon his Light within If so how can any be deprived of Justification for whom Christ dyed Which was for all Men but what Proof hath he from Scripture That the shedding Christ's Blood was the Meritorious Cause of Justification Seeing it was shed by wicked Hands and surely had the Jews and Gentiles obeyed and walked in that holy and just Light that was in them they had not crucified nor murthered the just One the Son of God whose giving up to the Death of the Cross though of Necessity yet it was occasioned because of Sin and Death that was come over all which man must only be convinced and truely sensible of by the Light of Christ within and it s such only as walk in his Light who come to know the Blood of Christ to cleanse them from all Sin And there is a certain Congruity and Oneness in being sanctified redeemed and saved by his Life Light Blood Power Arm Ingrafted Word Spirit Fire Water or by Grace these do not oppose Christ as Saviour he being in all the great Workman of God through whom God hath saved us by the washing of Regeneration and renewing of the holy Ghost Titus 3. 4 5. These being one in Substance with him and of himself as the Spirit the Water and the Blood agree in one And as his offering up himself being a Propitiation for the Sins of the whole World pouring out his Soul to Death and making Intercession for the Transgressors was by the Eternal Spirit so the blessed Effects thereof are spiritually and inwardly received by them that obey and walk in the Light of his Spirit wherein his Life and Vertue of the Blood of the Covenant is received unto Cleansing Sanctification and Reconciliation with God The great Sufferings Burthens and Afflictions of Christ were occasioned by man's Sin Disobedience and turning from his Life and Light within and this brought Darkness and Death over Man-kind and therefore Christ deeply travelled in the Spirit of Prayer and Intercession through all his Sufferings to bring forth his own Life and Light for man's Deliverance out of Death and Darkness that he might see his Seed and the Travel of his Soul and be satisfied And this is the Seed that shall serve him throughout all Ages which shall be counted unto the Lord for a Generation and this serves him in his Light and worships him in Spirit therefore they that oppose this Light of Christ to the End of Christ's Coming Death Sufferings Blood or Intercession as if his Light in Man did invalidate these they are darkned and cheated by the Devil and not these who obey Christ's Light within for Life and Savation in him IV. The saving Work of the Spirit HEnry Grigg observes from John 16. 7. That the Spirit or blessed Comforter cannot be the Saviour pag. 46. H. G. Contradiction Till the Coming of his Spirit and Grace with Power in my Heart for the binding of the strong man Satan and killing my Corruptions my Soul was not brought out of the horrible Pit p. 16. having wrought this glorious Work of Regeneration p. 17. G. W. his Animadversion Then it s the Spirit and Power of Christ that effects Salvation through the Work of Regeneration Tit. 3. 5. which is not meerly by Christ's outward Sufferings though we cannot believe that Satan is bound in this Man while he is in Satan's Work blaspheming Christ's Light within and belying us H. G. replyes What sober Christian Man can find any Contradiction here against H. G Is not G. W. the Lyar and false Accuser I say the Spirit or blessed Comforter cannot be the Saviour or Mediator p. 6. G. W. Answer The Contradiction is very obvious to say the Spirit cannot be the Saviour when it can save the Soul out of the horrible Pit can it save and not be a Saviour Or can it bind the strong Man or kill man's Corruptions and yet not save him And if the Father the Word and the holy Spirit be God cannot God be the Saviour When as Christ's being the Author of Faith giving Power to others to become the Sons of God is a Proof of his being God Light from the Sun p. 91. And Christ said The Son can do nothing of himself c. The Father that dwelleth in me he doth the Works Joh. 5. 19. 30. and 8. 28. and 14. 10. And the holy Spirit where received also maketh Intercession according to the Will of God and by this Spirit Christ prayed unto the Father but to say the Spirit or blessed Comforter cannot be the Saviour is also to deny Christ in his spiritual Appearance to be a Saviour and so to confine the saving Work to him only as man or in the Flesh without or separate from us whereas he said I will not leave you comfortless I will come to you John 14. 18. which plainly denotes him to be the Comforter in that Spiritual Appearance wherein he that was with them promised to be in them and as revealed in them his Appearance was another or diverse to his outward Appearance in the Flesh whereas H. G. saith Are there not three that bear Record in
Sins past and that through Faith in the Name and Blood of Christ which hath a secret Influence upon the Soul and sprinkleth the Conscience from dead Works in order both to Pardon and Justification upon the Act of living and true Faith in Christ yea Christ as the one Off●…ing Sacrifice and Propitiation for the Sins of the whole World which puts away Sin consecrates makes true Believers holy and declares God's Coming near to Man in Kindness I say Christ as thus considered hath an inward Influence and Effect upon the believing and penitent Soul to bring it near to God and render it capable of receiving Mercy and Forgiveness and of seeling the Pardon and Peace upon true Conversion from Sin and Evil yea I further testifie that God looks upon and hath a regard to every Appearance and Effect of his Grace and Spirit in the Heart Soul even from the very first Act of Faith springing up and budding of Grace to the highest Growth thereof even from Davids Repentance to his Songs of Deliverance from Niniveh's believing God and repenting to his Peoples walking in Newness of Life from the Prodigal's Return to his Father's House to his abiding therein yea the first Appearance of true Tenderness Remiss and Brokeness of Heart or godly Sorrow for Sin the Lord hath Regard to the Creature for the sake thereof still from the Respect he naturally hath to his Grace and Spirit that works these in Man To this Man will I look saith the Lord that is poor and of a contrite Spirit and trembleth at my Word The Work of Christ or Grace in the Heart from the Beginning to the Accomplishment thereof is acceptable to God because of the Dignity of him that worketh it and not from any Dignity or Worth of the Creatures own but only the Creature is accepted as in Christ we are accepted in the Beloved and it is for Christ's sake that God forgiveth us and not meerly for our own Howbeit it is so far as we are related to Christ and have an Interest in him and his Righteousness by a living Faith that God owns and looks upon us in a Way of Acceptance he respects his own Image in us and doth not justifie acquit or accept Men only upon the Account of Christ's Sufferings and Acts of Obedience as done in his Person for if he did then were all Men justified for whom Christ dyed and that was the whole World all Men in general he tasted Death for every Man yet his Obedience and Sufferings in the Flesh had a good End and Effect be being through all both acceptable and prevailing with God for the good of Mankind we must needs partake of the Benefit and Effects thereof in our Souls so far as they have an Influence upon us by the Life and Power of Christ considering the Travel of his Soul through all his Sufferings which were inward as well as outward his Soul being made an Offering for Sin and his making Intercession ●…or the Transgressors was that Men might be influenced with a real Sence and Sorrow under their own Sin and be made sensible of Christ's Sufferings and Travil of Soul and know the Fellowship thereof and so be made conformable to his Death through the Operation of his Spirit and Life in them as that they may be raised up in the Likeness of Christ's Resurrection in Dominion and Triumph over Sin and Death and not plead Christ's Satisfaction and Righteousness only as in himself in their ●…ead to absolve or justifie the Guilty whom God will not clear nor acquit the Wicked Christ's Righteousness will not excuse any in Unrighteousness for he was a holy Example as well as a Sacrifice and Propitiation and he that saith he hath an Interest in Christ's Rightcousness or that he abideth in Christ ought to walk as he walked Now the Question is not Whether Christ was a most Satisfactory Sacrifice or well-pleasing to the Father for that is undeniable He was the Delight of the Father's Soul who gave himself for us an Offering and a Sacrifice to God for a sweet smelling Savour Ephes. 5. 1 2. But In what State and Condition are we acquitted pardoned and justified of God and in what Nature whether as fallen sinful guilty Persons in our selves and that meerly by the Sufferings of Christ in his own Person which were finite without respect to his Work in us Or as Converted Believers Sanctified Obedient new Creatures in Christ accepted and so justified in his own Righteousness as real Partakers thereof The latter is the Justification and Imputation which I plead for and not the former I would not have Men flatter themselves nor one another in Sin and Darkness with Christ having done all paid all satisfied God for all Sins past present and to come and that in their stead nor to think themselves thereby absolved acquitted and justified in their Sins and fallen Estate for such Doctrine hath stre●…gthned the Hands of many Evil-Doers and made many Hypocrites who are yet to undergoe a Sence of the Judgments and Terrors of the Lord and to know Repentance from deadWorks before they receive Forgiveness of Sins past or Jesus Christ as the Attonement or their Peace for he came in the Likeness of sinful Flesh that he might condemn Sin in the Flesh before Man be justified from it If the Question be What is it that gives us Interest in Christ's Righteousness Or upon which it is imputed or reckoned to us He answers Our Faith Rom. 10. 10. If the Question be What will evidence our Faith to be living and sound Faith He answers Our sincere Obedience to the Law Jam. 2. 24. You see then how that by Works a man is Justified and not by Faith only we are Justified by Works as Evidencing our Faith living by Faith as giving Interest in Christ's Righteousness by Christ's Righteousness as constituting ●…s Righteous c. p. 91. The Reader may see I take the better part of his Confession as well as the worse He hath truly confest here 1st That it is our living and sound Faith that gives us Interest in Christ's Righteousness and upon which it is imputed or reckoned to us 2dly That our sincere Obedience to the Law or Works of Faith doth evidence our Faith to be living and sound from whence it follows that none are Justified but who are in a living and sound Faith in Christ and sincere Obedience to his Law Therefore Justification was not effected or compleated without us by Christ's Sufferings or Death in his Person for he dyed for our Sins but rose again for our Justification which is effected even in bringing forth in us the Answer of a Good Conscience nor art thou either Justified or pronounced Righteous in the Sight of God whoever thou art who art a guilty Person a fallen Creature accused by Moses unsanctified unregenerate Impure see how manifestly the Man hath contradicted himself in these Passages one while in Justifying the guilty or
remit or pardon Offences past without such a severe Payment and Satisfaction as is implyed because as some say he dispenseth not with the Act of Law If he could so punish his Innocent Son to the full who never offended was not this a Dispensing with the Act of Law when the Law was made for Offenders and added because of Transgression and to punish such for it was not made to punish an Innocent or Righteous Man against whom there is no Law But if to pardon former Transgression upon true Repentance and to save Man from Sin and Wrath be not inconsistent with the infinite Goodness and Mercy of God himself and to be both a just God and a Saviour were not Inconsistent then his divine Justice consisted not in such Severity as to obliege him from shewing Mercy witho●…t such a rigid Satisfaction and Payment as that of punishing his Son to the full and pouring out his Wrath upon him for the Sin of Mankind Whereas where Remission of Sin is obtained there is both a Relaxation of the Severity of the Law and a manifest Effect of the Propitiation or sweet smelling Sacrifice of Christ as Mediator and Advocate and not as the Object of Wrath Revenge and full Punishment from God that is due to Sin and that to acquit the Sinners continuing therein And his not sparing his own Son but delivering him up for us all and his being made a Curse for us was neither equivalent to that of Eternal Death Curse and Damnation which Sin and Sinners have deserved nor doth it absolve Man from his Obedience to the Law of the new Covenant or Spirit of Life in Christ though it was for a Relaxation of the Law as to the Bondage thereof and in order to abolish and end the first Covenant and the Curse thereof yet not to pardon or justifie Men in Sin against the second Nor is it any Loosening but a Reinforcing of the Terms thereof for he took away the first that he might establish the second he removed ●…nd ended the Shadows that he might exalt the Substance that was vailed under them he blotted out the Hand-writing of Ordinances nailed it to his Cross that he might reinforce the Law of the new Covenant written in the Heart that we might not be without Law to God but under the Law to Christ He did both fulfil the Law in hs Person and doth fulfil the Righteousness of it in them that walk not after the Flesh but after the Spirit he did not only remove the shadowy Part of the Law and the Curse thereof through his Suffering and Sacrifice but also he actually delive●…s the Soul from the inward Terrors Condemnation and Wrath of the Law upon true Repentance and Contrition of Heart in Remission and Pardon through Faith in his Blood being virtuously felt and efficaciously evidenced by his holy Spirit unto the Soul that hath a Part in Christ as the Propitiation for the Sins of the whole World whose Blood bears Record in the Earth agrees in one with the Spirit sprinkleth the Consci●…nce from dead Works speaketh forth Mercy and Forgiveness better things then that of Abel Besides Christ was as well exemplary as propiriat●…ry or gracious in his Sufferings which had both a blessed Accep●…ance and Eff●…ct with G●…d and a spiritual Influence upon them that follow him in Spirit further then the Historical Faith and Relation thereof as he said If any Man serve me let him follow me and where I am there shall also my Servant b●… J●…h 12. 26. And thus far is his Example spiritually fulfilled in them that follow him as namely Jesus Christ was outwardly c●…rcumcised baptized crucified put to Death as concerning the Flesh buried quickned raised up by the Power of God c. His Followers or Servants are spiritually circumcised baptized into his Death or crucified with him buried with him by Baptism as Partakers of the Fellowship of his Suff●…rings quickned by his Spirit raised up by his Power into the Likeness of his Resurrection and having suffered with him shall reign with him And now in Opposition to the Doctrine of such a rigid and Severe Satisfaction as is by divers asserted 〈◊〉 must tell my Opposers that though the Chastisement of our Peace was upon him and by his Stripes we are said to be healed this is neither of the Nature of Revenge from God Wrath or Punishment to the full that is due for Sin nor doth it exempt or free them who come to be his Followers from being liable at all to God's Chastisement or Correction in their own particulars when there is Cause for it for whom he loves them also he doth correct which is not Revenge as 't is said If my Children forsake my Law and keep not my Commandments then will I visit their Transgressions with the Rod and their Iniquity with Stripes nevertheless my loving Kindness will I not utterly take from them c. Psa. 89. 30 31 32 33. This concerned David and his Seed who notwithstanding did so undergoe the Chastisements of the Lord that he went often in a bowed down and mournful State as when he complained My God my God why hast thou forsaken me c. Psa. 22. which were the same Words Christ u●…tered in his deep Suffering Mat. 27. 4●… plainly i●…timating how he took upon him the Sufferings and Bur●…en of his People and his bearing the Sin and 〈◊〉 of many wherein it 's evident that they that ●…ollow Christ through the Work of Regeneration and obtain the new Birth do spiritually pass through the Fellowship of Christ's Sufferings and do partake of their due Shares thereof both for their Remission and to obliege them to follow him in his own Way of Light and Life whereby they who are faithful to him witnes the Blood Cove●…ant the Coverant that cleanseth from Sin and an Interest in that everlasting 〈◊〉 This is the Way a●…d Passage of the Ra●…somed o●… the Lord who through his Judgment and Chastis●…ments have 〈◊〉 a Ransom received the Attonement and an Interest in the Everlasting 〈◊〉 of Li●… and Glory Having thu●… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to the Matter in general I come further to 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 particular Passages that chiefly concern me to 〈◊〉 S. S. Th●… La●…●…ver a●…ows us to sin if at ten Years of Age a Person commits M●…er a●…d then lives according to the Law of the Land in ev●… 〈◊〉 ●…rty Years then arraigned for this the Judge cannot pro●…ounce him Innocent and so acquit him because the Law did not allow him to commit Murther any Part of his Life p. 93. Answ. A Truth in both 1st The Law never allows us to sin no more doth Grace or the Gospel Shall we sin because we are no more under the Law but under Grace God forbid for how can we that are dead unto Sin live any longer therein 2dly Justice cannot pronounce a Guilty Person Innocent upon the Cessation from the meer Act of Unrighteousness but God's lovin●… Kindness and
tender Mercy can and doth afford Remission upon true Repentance and his Justice can pronounce him ●…nocent that is purged from the Nature Root of Sin washed from Iniquity Have Mercy upon me O God according to thy loving Kindness according to the multitude of thy tender Mercy blot out my Transgressions wash me throughly from mine Iniquity c. Psa 51. 1 2. They whose Transgressions are thus blotted ou●… who come thus to be washed and saved through the Washing of Regeneration such come thus to be justified by his Grace can be pronounced Innocent as being washed and sanctified and such have the Demand of a good Conscience And though Pardon and Justification look not back at the unconverted State with Severity but with Remission upon Conversion yet they require what God's Covenant doth afterward to the End of our Dayes that is not to live in Sin but in Christ's Righteousness The Grace or Favour of God teacheth us that denying Ungodliness and wordly Lusts that we should live godly and soberly in this present World Tit. 2. 12. To be invested with Christ's Everlasting Righteousness p. 93. is the very Thing I plead for and if in Reality the Man stood to this the Controversie would soon have an End And he further assents to Truth viz. If this Righteousness be not put on by Faith we are not invested with any Thing for which God should declare or pronounce us Righteous From whence observe That we must be invested with Christ's Everlasting Righteousness if God pronounce us Righteous Take Justification and Imputation in this Sense and then we differ not in this Matter but how well this agrees with imputing and reckoning Guilty Condemned Fallen Creature JUST or INNOCENT only on the Account of Christ's Sufferings and Death while such condemned Creatures are invested with Sin and Guilt and not with Christ's Everlasting Righteousness Will his telling us of Christ's Death imputed p. 97. make up the Matter 'T is true Christ is our Surety and that of the new Testament or Covenant 1st For that without him we can pay no Debt nor truly obey or fulfil the Terms thereof on our Parts but in and through him that strengthneth us 2dly Of the New Testament also in fulfilling the Promises belonging thereto for all the Promises of God are Yea and Amen in him David describes the Blessedness of the Man to whom God imputes Righteousness without Works saying Blessed is he whose Iniquity is forgiven But then S. S. is not pleased to take notice of but overlooks the following Words viz. Blessed is the Man unto whom the Lord imputeth not Iniquity and in whose Spirit there is NO GUILE See Psal. 32. 1 2. If it were only a Man thus qualified that the Imputation of Christ's Righteousness and Justification were pleaded for we should not have this Controversie but should agree That the Man in whose Spirit is NO GUILE is blessed He is the Man whom God pronounceth Just and Innocent his Transgression is forgiven his Sin is covered And though it is said God imputes Righteousness to him without Works yet 't is to be understood it is not without a sincere Obedience because that in his Spirit there is no Guile and then without what Works 1. Not without the Work of living Faith 2. Not without yielding true Subjection or Obedience unto God in his spiritual Requirings or Law of Faith for Abraham did not only believe God but by Faith yielded ●…o obey him Without what Works then but the Work of the Law of Works as wrought by the Flesh or st●…nly Jew by which no Flesh shall be justified I mentioned C●…rcumcision and others that were Types or Signs wherein the Righteousness of Faith doth not consist see Divin of Christ p. 64 65. in which this Point is opened and cleared But to this S. S. objects viz. He errs calling the Ceremonial Law a Law of Works in giving this the Lord gave a Law of Grace to his People p. 94. Rep. If the Ceremonial Law be not a Law of Works but a Law of Grace he should have been so Ingenuous as to have told us what the Law of Works is which the Apostle distinguisheth from the Law of Faith Rom. 3. 27. as he d●…th between justifying Faith and the Deeds of the Law as wrought and boasted in by the literal Jews And whether the Law of Works be some Law inferiour to that of Circumcision other Types But to shew S. S. his Error in denying the Ceremonial Law as he calls it to be the Law of Works let him consider that after the Apostle excludes Boasting not by the Law of Works and concludes a Man is justified by Faith without the Deeds of the Law he saith Is H●… the God of the Jews only Is He not also of the Gentiles and that it is by Faith that God justifies both the Circumcision and the Uncircumci●…on and that Faith was reckoned to Abraham ●…or Righteousness not in Circumcision but in 〈◊〉 and that he received the Sign of Circumcision a Seal of the Righteousness of the Faith which he had yet being Uncircumcised that he might be the Father of all them that be●…ieve though they be not Circumcised c. See Rom. 3. 28 29. and Ch. 4. 10 11. Gal. 2. 16. and 3. 2 5. and 4. 10. And ●…urther If ye be circumcised Christ shall profit you nothing ch 5 2. From all which 't is plain 't is no Error to say the Law of Works as opposed to the Law of Faith is that enjoyning Circumcision and other Signs and Shadows these the Works which are not imputed unto Justification nay I shall further grant that all Man's Works or working whatsoever before a living Faith are neither available nor accountable unto his Justification with God and on the other Hand that a true and sanctifying Faith and believing in God from a Sence of his living Word or holy Command in the Heart is accounted for Righteousness to him that so believe●…h before he hath performed his actual Obedience even while in the Faith he is passively waiting upon God as being ceased to do Evil that he may receive Strength to act Good even while he is so believing and waiting and breathing to the Lord and saying draw me and I will come after thee lead me and I will follow give me Strength and I will walk in thy Wayes come let us walk in the Light of the Lord c. knowing that it is the Power of God that begets living Faith and thereby changes and sanctifieth the Mind unto a living and sincere Obedience and this Faith is the Gi●…t of God a Fruit of his own Spirit and therefore accounted of by him and reckoned unto us I would not make the Scriptures speak that God imputes Works wrought by us without Works by us as S. S. falsly accuseth me p. 94. But rather that God imputes his own Works in us without any self-Works wrought by us and accepts us in the
purge the Conscience by his own Blood He really effectually thereby applies it both unto Sanctification Remission and Pardon but this Effect hath not Mens Imaginary Application o●… it in their Sins and Pollution It is one Thing for Men in their own Wills to apply the Sufferings Death and Blood of Christ to themselves 't is another to know him to apply it in sprinkling the Conscience And seeing it is Christ's Work it concerns us all to obey follow him in his i●…hining Light for that End it being only those who are sanctified by his Blood of whom it may be truly said Much more th●…n being justifi●… by his Blood we shall be saved from Wrath through him Rom. 5. 9. To his saying To be justified is to be pardoned p. 97. I grant that to receive Pardon of Sins past upon true Repenta●…ce is to receive a Degree of Justification so far as from the Condemnation but to be absolutely justified to the End of Life a●…er Pardon is received is more then Pardon of Sins past before for this is not without a Perseverance in the Grace Rom. 11. 22. Heb. 6. 4 5 6. Chap. 10. 26. His saying We are pardoned for the sake of Christ's Death imputed p. 97. is no Scripture-Phrase or Language why is not the whole World for whom he dyed then pardoned and justified If he replies because of Unbelief or that they have not Faith in his Blood It follows then that Men are pardoned and justified through Faith in the Blood of Christ and not by their Application or Imputation of the Death of Christ for it is said that he was delivered for our Offences and was raised again for our Justification Rom. 4. 25. therefore not by the meer Imputation of his Death Neither do these cited Scriptures Col. 1. 14. Ephes. 1. 6. Rom. 3. 24. Mat. 26. 28. prove his Doctrine of Imputation but Redemption or Remission through his Blood Redemption in Christ and Ephes. 1. 6. We are accepted IN the Beloved These real Scripture-Truths are never doubted of by us and 't is true that the Children of Israel bringing their Sacrifices to the Priest to offer or otherwise Blood was to be imputed to them doth typifie that we must offer our Services by Christ our high Priest S. S. If we think to have the best Services that we are enabled to perform accepted immediately as from us and not for the sake of Christ presenting them c. for this God will cut us off he will as soon accept of Murther from us as such a Service p. 98. Rep. As herein he would represent the Condition of Believers or justified Persons he non-sensically mistates the Case For 1st Such are not apt to ascribe either the Dignity or Acceptance of their best Services to themselves but unto Christ who enables them to perform 2. As their Sufficiency is of Christ and in him and not of themselves so he hath the Glory thereof and they the Acceptance and Peace in him as they continue faithful in him serving the living God 3. Christ's Priesthood is an holy Priesthood It is also said of them Ye also as lively Stones built up a spiritual House to offer up spiritual Sacrifices acceptable to God by Jesus Christ 1 Pet. 2. 5. And these are not polluted or unholy Sacrifices which this holy Priesthood offers by him But 4. You who are of an Unholy and Polluted Priesthood are offering polluted Services sinsul and wandring Prayers which are but Dreams sinning in your best Duties committing Iniquity in your holy Things as many of you have often confessed and are all as an unclean Thing and that God will as soon accept of Murther from you as of such a Service and yet presume that those your unclean polluted Sacrifices and Services are presented by Christ to the Father and accepted in the Merit of his Sacrifice but herein you are deceived and deluded Christ doth neither present nor doth God accept any of your sinful Services or polluted Performances but will Po●…e Contempt upon you in them and return back your polluted Prayers and Services and with Indignation spread them as Dung upon your own Faces therefore Repent Repent and be converted to Christ the true Light and Way to the Father and to the Spiritual House and Holy Priesthood which yet you are much short of to offer Spiritual Sacrifices acceptable to God by Christ. CHAP. III. About Christ's Justifying Righteousness the best Robe the Necessity of its Inherence or being inwardly enjoyed not to invalidate but to fulfil the blessed Intent and Ends of his Sufferings in Reply to S. S. S. S. If the Righteousness we are justified by is a Garment a Arg. Robe even the best Robe then we are justified by a Righteousness wrought without us for our Garments are not wrought within us but without us Rep. This justifying Righteousness then is a Garment to be put on but whether its being a Garment and to be put on doth prove that it is not within but without only let them that have put it on judge It appears that this Opposer hath disputed and pleaded so long for the Being of Sin to remain within that he has no Room ●…or Christ's Righteousness within But I would enquire of him Is every Thing that is to be put on therefore not within but without Is this a good Argument As P●…ye ye on the Lord Jesus Christ Put on Strength O Sion Put on thy beau●…iful Garments O Jerusalem Put on the whole Armour o●… God c. Must these therefore not be within but without only And so he might as well say of Salvation with which the Meek are cloathed or of the Zeal of the Lord which the Upright do put on for a Cloak and Righteousness ●…or a Garment But to give him his due After he hath concluded that the Righteousness for which we are Justified is wrought without us is a Garment c. He confesseth that the holy Ghost doth not alwayes using this Similitude intimate to us that that Righteousness which is put on is wrought without us p. 99. And what Righteousness is that which is put on that is wrought within us Do we both put on a Righteousness that is within us and a Righteousness that is not within us what Scripture has he for this Distinction And what Confusion is the Man fallen into to conclude that the Justifying Righteousness is not wrought within but without because put on as a Garment and yet that there is a Righteousness put on which is not wrought without us but within us See what a profound Logician this man would shew himself but thus he confounds the Minds of the Simple and darkens Counsel by Words without Knowledge To Luk. 15. 22. Bring forth the best Robe and put it on him he saith By this Robe the holy Ghost understands Christ's Obedience unto Death not to speak of Increated Righteousness even the essential and incommunicable Righteousness of God which never was wrought within
in all c. Rep. God's Truth is concerned in his gracious Promises both absolute and conditional as well as in his conditional Threats And let it be considered 1st That Man's Dying in the Day he so eat was the Fruit of his Fall into a State of Misery in dying from that State of Righteousness and Felicity he was in before and it was the Natural Effect of his Transgression and yet not so as that God was absolutely bound to bring eternal Death on Man in that day no no nor was divine Justice so narrowly tyed up or short sighted as not to reserve a Remedy for God had the Seed of the Woman in his eye and divine Justice doth not require that eternal Death or the second death shall remain upon any but on the finally Impenitent who continue in Sin under the Power of the first Death for all they who return to God and receive Christ the promised Seed he proves to them both a Just God and a Saviour neither Justice nor the Curse of the Law can limit him from shewing Mercy Remission or Salvation to the Creature upon true Repentance and Faith in Christ Jesus who overcomes the World and the evil Nature from whence those cursed Actions have sprung mentioned Deut. 27. 15. to the end of the Chapter And t is true the Jews outward who rejected the Righteousness of Faith that is received in the Spirit when Christ was set forth and fetcht their Righteousness from the Letter of the Law they did strictly and formally bring themselves under the Curse thereof when they continued not in all that was written But there is no Condemnation or Curse to them that are in Christ Jesus my Opposer leaves out what follows viz. that walk not after the Flesh but after the Spirit Rom. 8. 1. Yet what the Law saith it saith to them that are under the Law that every Mouth may be stopt and all the World may become Guilty before God This Law therefore as thus convicting is Spiritual and tends to man's Conversion in that it is to prepare him for Mercy which divine Justice doth not hinder nor detain the World under the Guilt divine Truth being concerned in the gracious Promises which are Yea and Amen in the Promised Seed that ransoms Man slayes the Enmity crucifies the Transgressors or first Birth which must dye upon which the Law and its Sentence of Death must pass and Man that is guilty must feel this in himself before he be delivered into that State wherein there is no Condemnation or be united to the Lord who Kills and makes Alive So that neither Justice nor Truth in the Law are frustrated the Law is not made void through Faith but established in the Spirituality and Purity of it the Righteousness of the Law being fulfilled in them that walk not after the Flesh but after the Spirit And 't is said that the Righteousness of God without the Law is manifested being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets even the Righteousness of God which is by the Faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe Rom. 3. Christ came to condemn Sin in the Flesh and is the End of the Law for Righteousness to all them that believe and not for the Continuance of Unrighteousness and where Sin is put an End to by Christ the Curse and Condemnation of necessity ceaseth with it and the Righteousness of Faith takes place in the Soul Obj. Adam hath sinned We are by Nature Children of Wrath in our own Persons We have failed hence God's Wrath is up against us God burning in his Wrath is ready to condemn us to take Vengeance on us to consume us as Fire not to Justifie and acquit from our Ill Deserts c. If Burning ten thousand millions of Years in Hell is not enough to turn away his Wrath c. Rep. Thus he hath defined divine Justice as he thinks which is further spoken to hereafter but upon whom must it be thus satisfied supposeth he S. S. Justice is satisfied upon Transgression p. 103. Rep. Then upon Rebellious Transgressors and not upon Christ who was alwayes Innocent and did the things well pleasing to the Father and therefore divine Justice could never burn nor take such Vengeance on him for Satisfaction and let the Guilty go free for so to do could not be Justice the Satisfaction whereof as it intends the Undergoing the Penalty of the Law due for the Injury done Justice can only require it of the Offender and Guilty for whom the Law was made not of the innocent or Righteous for whom the Law was not made But where then were the Mercy or Forgiveness to the poor Creature that hath sinned if God were so engaged to burn in his Wrath and take the full Vengeance upon lost man S. S. His Truth engageth him to execute his Justice in punishing Sin yea to the full should Mercy offer to pronounce any man absolved his Sin unpunished Truth would stop the Mouth of Mercy and say Hold I have Cursed c. Rep. What strange and lamentable Division would this make in God! and how variable and in Contrariety with himself And how Contrary to the Testimonies of his Faithful Witnesses hath this Man rendered God As if absolute Revenge and Wrath towards all Mankind did bear the sole Sway in him over all both his Love Goodness and Mercy Oh sad Is not his Mercy over all his Works and hath he not Forgiveness in store unto whom it is said who is a God like unto Thee that pardoneth Iniquity and passeth by the Transgression of the Remnant of his Heritage he retaineth not his * Anger forever because he delighteth in Mercy Mica 7. 18. The Lord God merciful and gracious forgiving Iniquity Transgression and Sin Exod. 34. 6 7. So that even in the Law Gods Mercy and Forgiveness as well as his Threats were signified which his Truth must needs be concerned in Is it not evident that God is not engaged under Revenge nor his Mercy and Truth divided or opposite as this Man renders him For both must be received and have their place where Judgment and Mercy meet and men through the Law become dead unto the Law so as to know Christ to live in them and through God's Judgment and Chastisements to find a Ransom and an Attonement and God hath Power to turn away Wrath as he doth upon men's true Repentance Humiliation and Return to him as when the King humbled himself the Wrath of the Lord turned away from him 2 Chron. 12. 12. And also Hezekiah seeing the Wrath of the Lord upon Judah and Jerusalem for their doing Evil in his Sight and turning their Backs c. He said Now is it in mine Heart to make a Covenant with the Lord God of Israel that his fierce Wrath may turn away from us 2 Chron. 29. 8 10. And in the King's Letters be ye not stiff necked but yield your selves unto the Lord
rasting Death for every Man was not by Way of Revenge or Wrath from the Father nor the Punishment due to the World's Sin for tasting Death is far short of eternally dying The Prophet said Surely he has born our Griefs and carried our Sorrows yet we did esteem him stricken smitten of God and afflicted but he was wounded for our Transgressions he was bruised for our Iniquities the Chastisement of our Peace was upon him Isa. 53. It was man's Transgression that was his Burthen and Cause of his Grief and Suffering however some esteemed him smitten or plagued of God He hath born our Griefs and carried our Sorrows c. Such as suffer with Christ and lie under the Sence of their Burthen do not lay all both the Sorrow and Punishment O●… Sin upon Christ such do not say Christ was sorry or repented for us therefore we need not or Christ was chastised and afflicted in our Person for us therefore we need not be chastised nor afflicted for Sin past Christ made Intercession therefore we need not pray This were not to know the Fellowship of his Sufferings nor to be conformable to his Death nor baptized with his Baptism Besides the Chastisement of our Peace upon him was not Revenge nor burning Wrath from God Chastisement and Vengeance are two things God's Chastisement is in Love not in Revenge it pleased the Lord to bruise him who had done no Violence Isa. 53. by delivering him up to suffer and bear our Sorrows and Griefs AN ACT OF HIS GOOD PLEASURE NOT OF REVENGE OR WRATH how could it be Justice fully to punish the Innocent for the Wicked's Offence Were it not Blasphemy to charge God with such Cruelty and Inj●…stice Obj. Every known Sin is a wilful Rejection of Infinite Goodness a free Choice of Infinite Displeasure c. It therefore carries Infinite Demerit with it and nothing short of Infinite Punishment or Sufferings of Infinite Wrath can possibly suffice to satisfie for it Rep. Wo unto them that persist in Sin and reject Christ's inherent or inward Righteousness for such a Satisfaction as this of Infinite Punishment c. or that believe their Sins were thus punisht in Christ and thereupon continue in Sin Wo unto you that thus justifie the Wicked condemn the Innocent God's Controversie is against you you are afflicting oppressing and crucifying the Just with your Iniquities treading under Foot the Son of God rejecting the Blood of the Covenant you are Guilty of the Body and Blood of Christ as much as they were that condemned him and said he was Guilty of Death your Doctrine imputes the Sin Guilt and Punishment thereof to Christ you have esteemed him plagued of God but you have pierced him and grieved him by your Iniquity and Hypocrisie Take Heed of wilful sinning and rejecting the Goodness of God lest there remain no more a Sacrifice for you Repent repent repent Return return return to the Lord God before his Wrath sweep you away into Perdition Further he saith None but God's Equal and this is God himself in our Nature that is capable to satisfie God for Sin Christ received the Stroak of God's Justice c. Rep. While he states this Satisfaction to be only by Way of punishing men's Sin in Christ and now it is God himself that satisfies God this is of an absurd and blasphemous Tendence as if God punisht himself or as if God satisfied God with Infinite Punishment or suffering of Infinite Wrath and what is this but to divide God against himself Yet we may find out a better Sense for the Words before that God and Christ were one inseparable in the Suffering Affliction That his Soul bore as the Spirit of God was burthened afflicted and grieved under the Weight and Pressure of Man's Iniquity and Sin howbeit this was not of the Nature of strict Payment made to God by himself in Man's stead much less to punish man's Sin in Christ with infinite Wrath. Quest. Can Faith and the Works that follow without the Imputation of Christ's Sufferings satisfie God's Majesty for our Sin Answ. Here he misseth the true State of the Controversie or Question which should rather be Can your Imputation of Christ's Sufferings without true Faith and the Obedience or Works thereof either satisfie God's Majesty for Sin or justifie Men while he implies No he hath given away his Cause by granting That the Sufferings of Christ alone can not justifie Men without true Faith and Obedience to him By so much was Jesus made the Surety of a better Testament Heb. 7. 22. This is no Proof that your Sins were imputed to him as punish'd in him by the suffering of Infinite Wrath which to affirm renders him no better then a Transgressor guilty of your Sins as your Brother T. D. hath affirmed which is much beneath his being Mediator or the Surety of the new Testament which he was made the Surety of to ensure and make good the Promises and Priviledges thereof to true Believers which are all Yea Amen in him and to enable us to obey and perform those Terms and Conditions of the new Testament or Covenant which concern us for we cannot receive the Promises but in him nor discharge or pay our Duty without him therefore he is the Mediator of the new Covenant he is our high Priest made with the Oath of God and continueth forever and he is able to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him seeing he ever liveth to make Intercession for them Heb. 7. 24 25 28. But if God's Justice be fully satisfied for your Sins by the Sufferings of Christ and for them only God justifie men and secure them from Condemnation It being against Justice it self to punish those Sins a second time that have been punisht to the full already he saith How then shall God render to every Man according to his Works Indignation and Wrath to them that are contentious obey not the Truth but obey Unrighteousness Will they be able to plead this Doctrine before his Tribunal Lord thou hast punisht our Sins to the full in thy Son Christ It is against Justice it self to punish them a second time for Christ dyed for all Men tasted Death for every Man gave himself a Ransom for all for a Testimony in due Time But if this were a Punishment of their Sins to the full then how could Justice punish them again with Indignation Wrath But Glory Honour Peace to them that do Good to the Jew first and also to the Gentile to them that through Patient continuing in Well-doing seek for Glory and Immortality eternal Life see Rom. 2. Such do not plead Christ's doing Good and suffering only for them in his Person to justifie and excuse them in Sin in their Persons or to cloak their doing Evil all their Life long though Sin-pleasing Hypocrites thus endeavour to indulge themselves and others in their
Iniquities But be not deceived God will not be mocked such as you sow such shall you reap Whereas S. S. accuseth G. W. with saying Satisfaction is not needfull Quoting Divin of Christ pag. 62. And then cryes Such Blasphemy is this Man not affraid to utter the Lord Convince and Humble him To thee S. S. I say Thou hast wronged me those are none of my Words the Lord humble thee for thy belying me thi●… is not the first time If thou or any Reader do but moderately view my Book and Page quoted by thee it will plainly appear that to say Satisfaction is not needfull are none o●… my Words for t is very plain that I have not denyed that Satisfaction that was in Christ but have objected aga nst the manner of their stating it and sinful tendence of their Notion about it as 1st Against their making Satisfaction the Effect of God's full Revenge or the Execution of Vindictive Justice as their Phrase is on his Innocent Son thereby to clear the Guilty 2dly I have distinguished between God's Chastisement and Revenge 3dly That the Intent and End of God's Peoples undergoing his Chastisements or Correction according to Jer. 10. 24. Heb. 12. 9 10 11. And their partaking of the Fellowship of Christ's Sufferings is that they might be Partakers of his Holiness live and reign with him 4thly I have plainly told my Opposers That if Man continue in Rebellion against Christ rejecting his Love and Grace his Sufferings and Satisfaction will not free them from the Severity of God nor from the Execution of his Judgment which is committed t●… Christ c. Divin of Christ p. 62 63. The Truth of what I have written in the said Book in the Plaineness and Simplicity of it stands over the Subtility of my Opposers and remains unanswered and instead of an honest or moderate Answer this Man does but pervert curtaile tautologize nibble and pick at my Words and abuse me He doth not so much as seriously take notice of the stress of my Objections but over and over imposeth his Opinion and brings a very unfit Instance for God's judging it meet to punish all Sin or that all our Sin is punished in his Son without Cruelty c. where he saith If God doth damn the Impenitent if he damns the fallen Angels he is cruel We say No he is Just But is this and his punishing your Sins in his Son to the full a fit Parallel Let the unprejudiced Reader judge And then he grosly imposeth and begs the Question again viz. And for that person who is God to suffer a temporal Death though in his human Nature only this is of infinite Value an infinite Abasement a stroke of Infinite Wrath for had not God's Wrath against Sin been Infinite he would not thus have struck a Person of infinite Worth and Dearness to him interposing as a Surety between him and us miserable Sinners for ●…od in our Nature to suffer what he did this is more then for Men or Devils to suffer God's Eternal Wrath or Revenge this Wrath more clearly shines in the Infinitude of it in thus smiting * the Brightness of his Glory and Express Image of his Person * then in the eternal Damnation of Men and Devils in the unquenchable Flames of Hell Rep. This strange Language against God and Christ I shall need to ●…ay little about let them that know the holy Scriptures see how unlike them it is only I may query and demand of him 1st Where do the Scriptures say That God suffered a Temporal Death as a Stroak of Infinite Wrath 2dly That in Infinite Wrath he struck a Person of Infinite Worth and Dearness to him 3dly That this Wrath more clearly shines in the Infinitude of it in thus smiting the Brightness of his own Glory c. then in the Eternal Damnation of Men and Devils c. If I should conclude this both Blasphemous and Unscriptural Language that thus sets God at variance with himself or as smiting and punishing himself c. S. S. perhaps would be ready to cry out Oh Blasphemy and charge it upon me though it be his own the very Tendence Nature of his own Doctrine The Matter is fully answered and refuted before Again Where do the Scriptures say that God punished the Surety Christ for our Sins and for a time poured forth his Wrath upon him for our Iniquities p. 108. I am sure the Scripture he cites sayes the contrary of him Isa. 42. 1. viz. Behold mine Elect in whom my Soul delighteth Could he then pour forth his Wrath upon him for your Iniquities Oh! be ashamed of such Doctrine Could either the Chastisement of our Peace on him his bearing the Sin of many or carrying our Griefs be the Father's pouring forth Infinite Wrath upon him That it is for Christ's sake that God doth pardon upon Repentance is very true 't is well he Grants this upon Repentance and it is for Christ's sake for all the Good that is revealed or wrought in us that is acceptable to God as true Faith Repentance Obedience real Righteousness c. is all of Christ and brought forth by him in that Soul that is pardoned and Justified in him or accepted in the Beloved But how God's Forgiveness of the ●…ebt or Pardon of the Offences agrees with the Surety's full Payment and Suffering the Punishment Wrath deserved I leave to the understanding Reade●… to judge Or how Christ should make Intercession for them that come unto God by him if all their Debt were payed and Punishment undergone appears not especially where the Surety's Payment and Suffering is supposed in this case to be Infinitely of more Value then if the Debtor himself had payed and suffered all because of the Surety's Infinite Dignity and when if the Payment and Satisfaction of Law were thus strictly and severely made neither Law nor Justice could admit that the Debtor should lye in Prison as many do under Satan's Chains of Darkness lyable to Wrath and Vengeance but he should be both discharged and delivered ipso facto But we see it otherwise Many are yet in the Prison-House in Satan's Chains who yet may be loosed and Christ ever lives to make Intercession for them that come unto God by him The Man mends not the matter in what follows Obj. Christ Having purchased Salvation for us at the Hands of Justice by his Intercession he Obtains the Purchase at the Hands of free Grace and so applies it to us Rep. Oh strange Justice or rather Revenge fully paid satisfied but Grace yet to be so much interceded or solicited to this renders Grace more Severe then the Condemnation of the Law and Inferiour to Revenge And what Division would this make in God and between Christ and Grace it renders him Inferiour to Earthly Princes and his Grace below Common Justice among Men For supposing a Subject had forfeited his Inheritance to his Prince by Rebellion
and after a full Satisfaction and Payment made to the Prince in his stead by a Person of Intrest with him Could it be Just in the Prince to detain his Inheritance from him Or Suppose the Surety hath made full Payment and Satisfaction in the Debtors stead both to what Law and Severity could demand Could the Creditor justly detain the Debtor in Prison for some great and ear●…est Solicitation to be made by his Surety for him Or were it proper for the Person for whom the Satisfaction is thus made to cry out Good Sr. forgive me my Debts c. if all past present and to come be fully payed by the Surety And yet those Persons that are of this Opinion pray to God to forgive them their Trespasses or Debts as they forgive others c. but is their forgiving of Debts either a Casting the Debtors or their Sureties into Prison till they have payed the uttermost Farthing Surely that is not Forgiveness whereas the Intercession made to God doth acknowledg his Dominion Power and Justice as having been offended and a Subjection due to him and also his Grace as that which Man oweth due Obedie●…ce and Respect to Notwithstanding this man who has pleaded such a kind of Satisfaction by Justice or Wrath punishing their Sins in Christ he is not only Rigid or Severe but Partial in his Opinion like a Sect-Maker limiting this Satisfaction and the Extent of saving Grace only to a few and yet that few not allowed the Priviledge to be delivered from the Being of Sin in this Life In his saying That This Satisfaction was designed for all them who through special Grace in time believe these all are delivered here from the Guilt and reigning Power of Sin and so are out of their Fetters and shall hereafter be delivered from the Being of Sin Rep. That Satisfaction that was made and Testimony of God's Love and Mercy that was given by the Sacrifice and Death of Christ and as he is the Propitiation it was for ALL Men by the Grace of God he tasted Death for every Man for the Sins of the whole World he dyed for ALL MEN not only Presbyterians or a few particular Predestinarians but all Men or Mankind in general That as many as live should not live unto themselves but unto him that dyed and rose again 2 Cor. 5. 15. Who his own self bare our Sins in his own Body on the Tree that we being Dead unto Sin should live unto Righteousness 1 Pet. 2. 24. And see verse 21 22 23. It is plain that Christ's Suffering under the Burthen of Sin and Dying for all Men pointed at an other End and had another kind of Embleme in it then Mens living in Sin all their Dayes or their not expecting Freedom from the Being of Sin till after Death this is not to suffer or dye with Christ nor to come to the Blood of Sprinkling which only frees from the Guilt of Sin by sprinkling and purging the Conscience from the Being of it The Ignorance and Absurdity of the contrary Sin-pleasing Doctrine is sufficiently detected before And why Presbyterians Satisfaction of Revengeful Wrath in your stead or the Death of Christ as Satisfaction in your stead to free you from everlasting Burning and forgive your Sins Why for you more then the whole World besides Did not Christ dye for all Men as well as you And yet none are pardoned or in a justified State until they come Christ to ease them and they to have true and living Faith in his Name and Power and so to be led by that eternal Spirit by which he offered up himself a Lamb without Spot to God Obj. Nor can this Writer nominate one of us that encourageth Men to take Liberty of sinning from the Consideration of Christ's Satisfaction the Lord convince and humble Slanderers Rep. What ever you think or pretend your Doctrines are Sin-pleasing and give Liberty therein your disputing for Imperfection and Sin all your Dayes your justifying the Sinner or the Unjust while justly condemned in himself by the Light of Christ your setting sorth Christ as made the Subject o●… God's Wrath and Revenge in your stead and saying that divine Justice which you term vindictive or revengeful Wrath was satisfied in your stead by punishing your Sin to the full in Christ and that thereby you are secured from Hell c. though you continue in Sin or uphold the Being of it all your Dayes and deserve to have your Failings and Infirmities cast as Dung into your Faces as is confest and yet you count your selves imputatively Righteous pardoned and justified c. even while you are saying Let us with Paul abhor all Sanctification in us c. S. S. p. 102. Let us place no Confidence in Sanctification c. p. 103. The very Nature and Tendence of these and such Doctrines is Sin-pleasing and soothing and grateful to Hypocrites encouraging them to take Liberty of Sinning all their Life time if they can but be so credulous or self-confident as to believe they are Elect Persons and secured from Damnation on the Account of your Notion of Satisfaction that pretends and imputes Revengeful Wrath and Severity to Christ but Ease to your selves in your Sins But this your empty devised Notion will prove neither your Justification nor Security in the great approaching Day of God which shall declare every man's Work wherein he will judge the Secrets of Men by Christ Jesus according to the Gospel and every Man must give an Account of himself to God and be Rewarded according to the Deeds done in the Body whether they be Good or whether they be Evil AN APPENDIX Wherein The Controversie is summed up and resolved partly by Way of Question and Answer with a plain Intimation of my Sense thereof as relating unto the 2d 3d and 4th Chapters before Quest. 1. WHat was the Nature and Extent of Christ's Sufferings Answ. Not an undergoing infinite Wrath or vindictive Justice so called at the Hands of his Father for that is the just Reward of Rebels against God Christ and free Grace but 1st The Weight and Burthen of Sin and Grief of Soul because thereof as seeing the Punishment and Wrath incurred by the Rebellious 2. The Fury of his Persecutors in his undergoing that cruel Death of the Cross inflicted on his Body by wicked Hands and Murtherers so that his Sufferings were two-fold both inw●…ard and outward 3. His real Desire Travil of SouI and good Will through all was for the Benefit and Good of all Mankind even for the whole World for whom he suffered and dyed that all who receive him might be spiritually influenced with his holy Life and partake of his Mind and Will which stood in subjection to the Father Quest. 2. What was the true Signification Intent and Ends of Christ's Sufferings Answ. 1. To evince God's long Suffering towards all men for whom Christ gave himself a Ransom for a Testimony in due
Time 2. The Appeasement of Wrath and Severity so far as to grant Remission on true Repentance 3. The End of the Law and first Covenant and the Shadows and Curse of it as threatned to impose the Terms of it 4. To introduce the new-Covena●…t Administration Christ being the Mediator of it 5. To shew God's great Condescension to receive poor lost Man again on the Terms of this new Covenant reinforced by the Death of his Son that Man coming into this new Covenant he might experience a real Agreement with God even in the Son of his Love Quest. 3. How far the Light in Man is necessary and answers the Intent and Ends of Christ's Sufferings Answ. It is absolutely necessary to Salvation being that divine Principle of Light within which directly guides all them that obey it into the Way and Dispensation of the new Covenant whereby they secretly experience the real Intent Virtue and Ends of Christ's Sufferings and Blood Quest. 4. Whether the Light of Christ within in each Degree of it be not the New-Covenant Light in Nature and Kind and the certain Guide into this Covenant Answ. It is being it was the Life that was in Christ as the eternal Word that was and is the Light of Men which Life or Light is therefore divine and spiritual as the New-Covenant Dispensation is Quest. 5. Whether the Word within the Law within the Commandment within the Kingdom of God within and the Light within be not one and the same thing and so the Life of the New Covenant Answ. They are The Names Degrees and Manifestations do not alter or vary the divine Nature or Life thereof Quest. 6. The Satisfaction what and in what did it consist Answ. 1. Not rigid Payment from Christ to God 2. Not of the Nature of Payment for all Sins past present and to come as stated by Sin-pleasers 3. Not Christ's undergoing infinite Wrath or Revenge from his Father for these were never exacted nor required of him But the Satisfaction was in Christ as the Son of the Father's Love the Delight of his Soul and as he was a Sacrifice of a sweet smelling Savour to him both the Father and the Son condescended in one and the same Infinite Love for Man's Recovery out of Sin and Death and for his Deliverance from Wrath to come being confessed to be equally kind to Man and equally angry at Man's Sin God so loved the World that he freely sent his only begotten Son c. And in the same Love the Son freely gave his Life yea even himself a Ransom for all for a Testimony in due Time Quest. 7. What is true Justification Answ. It is properly and strictly a making Man Just viz. through the Washing of Regeneration It is also not only God's pardoning Sins past for Christ's sake through Faith in his Name but also God's absolute accepting owning and blessing all them who faithfully obey persevere and walk in the Light and Law of the new Covenant Q. 8. What is the true or real Imputation of Righteousness Answ. It is the same with Justification as it relates to God's reckoning or esteeming that Man Righteous that partakes of the everlasting Righteousness of Christ by a living Faith in him and so the same Righteousness and Holiness of Christ as inwardly revealed and brought forth in the new Creature that is made conformable to his Image and so all the blessed Fruits and Effects of Christ's Power and inward Work of Righteousness as true Faith Love Obedience Sincerity Holiness Integrity of Spirit to God are acceptable to him accounted of and reckoned unto his People for Righteousness and all still for Christ's sake who is the Author and Finisher of true living saving justifying Faith as Abraham believed God and it was reckoned to him for Righteousness We say then that Abraham's Faith was so reckoned or imputed to him It has been by some confest as between God and the Creature That there can be no liking one another without Likeness of Disposition nor doth God receive Man into actual Friendship with himself without being renewed after his Image Quest. 9. Who are the Subjects of everlasting Wrath and Vengeance Answ. Wicked and Rebellious Persons who reject the Love of the Truth tendered to them such as tread under Foot crucifie or contemn the Son of God sleight the Blood of the Covenant and do Despite to the Spirit of Grace Quest. 10. Whether it consists with divine Justice or Truth in God to shew Mercy and to be an absolute Saviour after so much Injury done against him and his Commands by Adam's Fall and the actual Disobedience of his Posterity in the Fall Answ. Yes It is not inconsistent with divine Justice sor God to be the absolute Saviour of all that return to him and believe in him he being a just God and a Saviour besides or without whom there is no Saviour Absolute divine Justice in God doth not limit him nor withold Mercy from the Creature in the first Place nor doth it produce Severity or Revenge until his Goodness be rejected and wholy slighted for he saith plainly I am a just God and Saviour c. I even I for my own sake do pardon Transgression Quest. 11. Whether Divine Justice did properly and strictly require a full Payment and Punishment upon Christ in man's stead for all the Debt contracted and Injury done by fallen Man Answ. No Christ's Sufferings were not of that Nature or Intent but as it was by the Grace of God that he tasted Death for every Man They shewed God's Patience and proclaimed his Mercy in Order to pardon all that return to him from the Evil of their Wayes Quest. 12. Whether God as Rector and Judge could dispense with the Act of Law and not rather with the immediate Object Did he not substitute an Innocent Person to undergo the Punishment or Severity of the Law due to Sin and Sinners Rep. This is objected by some of our Opposers which m●…st needs imply a great Dispensation with and Digression from the very Intent of the Law If the severe Punishment of it be removed from the Unrighteous for whom it was made and who have incurred it and fully inflicted upon Jesus Christ the Righteous One that never Sinned Could God thus far dispense with the Intent of the Law and yet not forgive Sin without such a kind of Satisfaction and Payment supposed Oh sad Blasphemy and Inconsistency And seeing it hath been confessed by some of our Eminent Opposers that Satisfaction is not a Scripture-Phrase but a Notion of Law and made agendo patiendo viz. by Christ's Obedience in Doing and Subjection in Suffering the Penaltey which the Law should have inflicted upon Offenders I propose these three Questions to our Opposers Q. 1. Were it Reasonable or true to say the Creditor has forgiven both the Debt and Injury if it be all paid and fully punished in the Surety Q. 2. Were it Justice in the Creditor to detain the
Debtor in Prison if his Debts be all paid by the Surety or to suffe●… the Surety to wait long soliciting or interceeding for his Pardon or Deliverance Q. 3. Doth not your Doctrine of such Rigid or Severe Satisfaction oppose Christ's Intercession Howbeit we still confess the Man Christ was greatly acceptable and most eminently satisfactory considered as a Sacrifice of a sweet smelling Savour to God and as the first Fruits Quest. 13. What did the Blood of Christ that was shed bespeak and what is our Sense of Christ's Blood and for what End owned Ans. 1st It did bespeak Remission of Sin past to all that truly repent and believe in him 2dly Our Sense of the Blood of Christ is a living and spiritual Sense of the Virtue and Efficacy of it as through it we receive Redemption even the Forgiveness of Sins 3dly We really own and confess to the Blood of Christ both in the History and in the Mystery as most significant to express his Life which he gave a Ransom and the Value of the one Offering we do in the sight of God confess and own the Blood of Christ both as shed for us and as sprinkling and purging our Consciences from dead Works And this We are come to know by his Light shining in our Hearts which as we walk in the Light we have Fellowship one with another and the Blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all Sin 1 Joh. 1. 7. Heb. 9. 14. To come to the Blood of Sprinkling which speaketh better things then that of Abel is an Attainment and Mystery only obtained by true Believers in and through his divine Light and Eternal Spirit by which Christ offered himself without Spot to God and by One Offering God hath perfected sorever them that are sanctified whereof the holy Ghost is a Witness to us Heb. 10. 14 15. For if a Literal Knowledge and Application of the Blood could either Sanctifie or Justifie without having the Conscience sprinkled with it then how could it be as the AntiType answering and ending the Type or Pattern under the Law where all the People were sprinkled with the Blood of the Offerings see Heb. 9. and 10. Chap. And the Leaper was cleansed by seven times sprinkling upon h●…m the Blood of the Bird that was killed Lev. 14. 6 7. but the Blood of Christ which sprinkles and purgeth the Conscience far excels all those under the Law and therefore as it redeems from the vain Conversation 't is called the Pretious Blood of Christ as opposed to and beyond all Corruptible things 1 P●…t 1. 18 19. Thus in the Blood of Christ there is a Mystery and a spiritual Consideration and Application absolutely necessary beyond the Historical Profession and Faith thereof as well as in the Cross c. as Christ said Except ye eat my Flesh and drink my Blood ye have no Life in you Joh. 6. It is the Spirit that quickneth c. The holy Ghost is Witness to us of the Virtue and blessed Effect of the One Offering Blessed be the Name of the Lord our God forever who by his divine Light hath opened our Understandings in the Mystery of Christ Jesus and the saving Knowledge of him which is after the Spirit All these Scriptures relating to Christ's Sufferings as Isaiah 53. Zach. 13. 17. Rom. 8. 32. Phil. 28. 2 Cor. 5. 14 15 21. Gal. 3. 13. and 4. 5. Heb. 2. 9. do all intimate God's great Kindness and Condescension in Christ Jesus and his Humiliation and deep Suffering under the Weight and Burthen o●… Sin and as by the Grace of God he tasted Death for every Man all which fall greatly short of proving our Adversary's ●…harge against him viz. That God poured down his Wrath or Revenge upon his Innocent Son for Satisfaction to divine Justice in Man's stead that had done the Injury I say all the Scriptures alleged by them can never prove this but rather 1. That Christ's Sufferings were of another kind both as he was delivered up by the Father in his Patience to suffer and bear the Burthen Sorrows and inward Griefs by reason of man's Sin for which his Soul also was made an Offering 2. And as the Reproaches Suffering and Death of the Cross that he sustained from the Wicked Murtherers were temporal or had an End and not as infinite Wrath and Revenge from God due to wicked Men. 3. Yet Christ was rendred a Curse and as made to be Sin This he could not properly be a in his own being for Sin and a Curse in this abstract Sense couldnot strictly relate to his pure and sinless being but so made or reputed with respect to his bearing the Reproach and Sin of many the outward Punishment Crucifying Death and Blood-sheding And all that was in him which in any sense might be said to Suffer was offered and given for the Advantage and Good of Mankind and that which he so gave and offered was called his Life Himself a Ransom and all some times in Scripture comprehended and expressed under the Phrase The Blood the pretious Blood of Christ that redeems from the vain Conversation purgeth the Conscience c. and even the outward part of his Suffering most Innocent Example his Cross Death Blood of his Cross his reviving again were so far from yielding either an Indulgence or justification to men as in Sin and Disobedience that they did very eminently preach and openly proclaim to Mankind both the Condemnation of Sin in the Flesh Repentance Mortification Remission and Man's reviving again to real Righteousness and Justification therein and all to be experienced through Faith in the Name and Power of Jesus Christ the Son of the living God in sending of whom the Father's Love was manifest that we might live through him And as Christ's Travil of Soul was inward and so his Suffering inward as well as outward what is more obvious to the spiritual Eye and Mind then that his Travil and Sufferings and his holy Design therein were to have an inward Effect and inwardly to be fulfilled by his Word and Power even in them who receive and believe in the same as that Instance of the holy Evangelist is very plain and pertinent where 't is said They brought unto him many that were possessed with Divels and he Cast out the Spirits with his Word and healed all that were Sick that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the Prophet saying Himself took our Infirmities and bare our Sicknesses see Ma●… 8. 17. Isaiah 53. 4. And moreover as to Christ's being the Lamb of God that taketh away the Sins of the World This taking away the Sins was not only fulfilled by that general Expiation or purging which he made by Way of Sacrifice but also inwardly by his real Cleansing purging the Conscie●…ce and purifying the Soul from the Nature and Being of Sin And God's Reconciling us by the Death of his Son whose putting away Sin is said to be by the Sacrifice of
himself his by himself purging our Sins the Will of God sanctifying us through the offering of the Body of Jesus Christ once for all c. as being a Sacrifice of far more Value then those Typical ones under the Law which he fully answered and ended though they were said to make Attonement Reconciliation for Sins of Ignorance that they might be forgiven and the Scape-Goat to bear away the Iniquities and Transgressions of the Children of Israel Lev. 4. 16. 23. And did not the killing and sacrificing of Bulls Goats and Heifers typifie or figure forth the killing and destroying that corrupt beastly Nature and Enmity in man which is for Death and Destruction and which those Beasts were as a lively Embleme of Seeing hereby God was pleased in a Way of Condescension to their low Capacities to shew a Pacification or Expiation to express his Forbearance suspending the severe Execution of the Law and Willingness to pardon Iniquity and to pass by former Transgressions and be reconciled when they afflicted their Souls and offer'd up burnt-Offering in the Day of Attonement as both were required much more hath God declared himself reconciled to us in commending his Love to us in that while we were Enemies Christ dyed and so he hath shewed forth his Kindness and free Love as willing to pass by and pardon the Sins of the World upon true Repentance in his setting forth his Son to be a Propitiation through Faith in his Blood and in his being in Christ reconciling the World unto himself not imputing their Trespasses unto them which was both in his Forbearance commending his Love and Good-Will in his Son unto the World and sending his Son that the World through him might be saved Let it be seriously here minded 1. That those Scriptures relating to Christ's Death Reconciliation Sanctification and putting away Sin as by Way of Sacrifice c. as Joh. 1. 29. Rom. 5. 10. Heb. 10. 10. Chap. 1. 3. Col. 1. 22. which intimate the Work as if universally done yet it is with respect unto the general Favour and Good-Will of God in Christ as by the which Will we Believers are sanctified through the Offering of the Body of Jesus and so we are said to be reconciled in the Body of his Flesh through Death Withall note that it was the manner of the Hebrews Prophets and Apostles to speak many Things in the Spirit of Prophecy as done or past before they were accomplished in the proper Subjects God having an Eye of Pitty and Compassion open to lost Man for his Redemption even before it was fulfilled whereby he saw and lookt beyond the former Transgressions Sins and Infirmities for the Sin of the World is not actually taken away purged out or put away as to its Nature and Be ing nor are Men in a State of Reconciliation or Friendship while actual Sinners and Enemies in their Minds but as they come to be converted and sanctified by the Spirit Therefore God's reconciling the World in and by his Son shews his gracious Will and was intended conditionally to be fulfilled in them viz. Upon Faith and Obedience It was done so as with respect unto Christ as the first Fruits and with an Eye to the Condition before it was actually fulfilled in them and what was outwardly signified as to the Good of Man by Christ's Sufferings and Death in the Flesh as our great Exemplar in his Obedience and Holiness is inwardly to be fulfilled and answered in Spirit as to the Principle End and Design of God therein as for Instance God was in Christ reconciling the World to himself yet the Apostle added We pray you in Christ's stead be you reconciled to God 2 Cor. 5. 19 20. And to the Saints at Colos. You that were sometimes alienated and Enemies in your Minds by Wicked Works yet now hath he reconciled in the Body of his Flesh through Death to present you Holy and Unblameable and Unreproveable in his Sight If ye continue in the Faitle grounded and setled c. Colos. 1. 21 22 23. Mark on this Condition they were reconciled and to be presented to God Not as being Enemies and in wicked Works But as made Friends by Conversion to and continuing in the Faith And God shewing forth Mercy to all and universal Pardon of Sin past in and for the sake of his Son Christ Jesus he being the Propitiation for the Sins of the whole World declares his not imputing their Trespasses unto them according to Severity but his being reconciled to them that they may be reconciled to him Finally Because God was in Christ reconciling the World to himself and because he commended his Love to us while we were Sinners and we reconciled c. by the Death of his Son as our Representative If from hence any infer That their Sin being not imputed therefore they are justified by the Imputation of Christ's Death and Blood though they continue in Sin and Disobedience to him and remain Unsanctified I must deny their Consequence and tell them that there is a two-fold non-Imputation of Sin or under a two-fold consideration Sin is said not to be imputed 1st with respect to God's Forbearance while he suspends Execution and doth not cut off 〈◊〉 in their Sins when yet the Nature and Being of Sin is not destroyed nor purged away expecting their Repentance c. In this Sense David when he said I have sinned Nathan to●…d him The Lord hath put away thy Sin Thou shalt not dye 2 Sam. 12. 13. Yet this proves him not then at that time in an absolute and compleat Justified Estate or his Sin blotted out for a●…ter this he both implored Mercy intreated Forgiveness and passed through great Judgment Difficulty and Trouble under the Weight and Burthen of his Iniquity 2. A Non Imputation of Sin in a better and higher State as where the Mi●…d and Spirit is sanctified and cleared and Sin really done away and wholy blotted out where the Lord Imputeth not Iniq●…ity but Righteousness as Blessed is he whose Transgression is forgiven whose Sin is covered Blessed is the Man unto whom the Lord Imputeth not Iniquity and in whose Spirit there is NO GUILE Psa. 32. 1 2. It were unreasonable to think that all to whom Sin is ●…ot imputed i●… the first Sense are in a Justified State for then were the whole World Justified for God was in Christ reconciling the World unto himself not imputing their ●…respasses But in the latter Sense they are Justified being Washed Sanctified and Justified in the Name o●… the Lord Je●…us and ●…y the Spirit of our God 1 Cor. c. 11. and such as in w●…ose Spirit there is no Guile And so no Condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the Flesh but a●…ter the Spirit Rom. 8. 1 2. Therefore Justification And if it be further queried viz. Quest. How doth it consist with God's Justice and Truth which alwaies required perfect Obedience either to
with the Assemblies Opinion and Stephen Scandret's uncertain Proposition for it His Abuse of divers Scriptures in his State of the Case for a personal Election answered and the Way of God's ●…hoosing resolved The Weakness of his two first Arguments touching God's Decree and Promises His gross Ignorance of those Names written in the Lamb's Book Arg. 3. His Impertinency and ignorant Allegation and mis-understanding of divers Scriptures concerning God's Choice and Ordination and the Cause of Mens Destruction opened against Argum. 4. Persons being chosen proves not their Eternal Election as Persons Concerning Jacob and Esau Christ's Sheep those that come are drawn and given unto him of the Father Arg. 5 6. Election explained God's loving Jacob and hating Esau their Posterities concerned therein And how far the two Births were figured in Jacob and Esau. Our Opposers blasphemously placing a partial Resolution upon God as creating Persons with Intention to leave them to Destruction contrary to his universal Call and Tenders of Salvation The Unchangeableness of God's Election in what State and our Opposers Ignorance and Error concerning God's Purpose My unanswered Objection of setting Life and Death before Men and warning them of Destruction The Cause of God's hardning Pharoah Judas and others not grounded upon meer Will and Pleasure but for their Rebellion Touching the Fall of particular Angels and Men the Tendence of God's long-Suffering towards the Wicke●… and my Opposer's Confession to Truth to the ●…tter Overthrow of his Opinion Presbyterians M●…ckery in their Warnings setting Life Death conditional Promises and Threats before People contrary to their partial Opinion of an eternal personal Election and Reprobation The sad Consequence of their accusing God with decreeing to deny saving Grace to particular Persons yea to the greater Part of Mankind shewing that divine Justice it self hath not so decreed Grace differing from Debt The Reason why God finds Fault with Men. The Question Who hath resisted his Will resolved Their urging all to for sake Sin contradictory to their Opinion and not in true Eaith Their Flattering many with fair Pretences contrary to their own Intentions the poor Encouragement and cold Comfort that their Doctrine of a personal Reprobation yields to the greatest Part of Mankind The wise God the just Judge is the Ordeiner of the Punishment not of the Fact nor the Author of Sin or their Wickedness who persecuted Christ. Hypocritical Priests making and strengthning Hypocrites by deceitfully daubing them up in their Sins and flattering them with a You are not fallen from Grace while they are guilty of gross Wickedness Concerning God's Convenant with David and his Seed and the Mystery typified in him To all which is added a short Postscript A Brief Introduction TO The following Discourse concerning Election and Reprobation STephen Scandret begins with an absolute false Charge against me as Depraving God's Truth whenas according to plain Scripture without any Depravation thereof I examined their partial and graceless Opinion as their making God the Ordeiner of whatsoever comes to pass both as to the States and Ends of Men and their placing his Decree thereof from all Eternity upon particular Persons and no●… upon the two Seeds and Conditions wherein Election and Reprobation do originally consist which in time extends to Persons only as related to the good or evil Seed and not from a partial absolute and meer voluntary Decree and Design to particular Persons as their narrow and silly Opinion imports which I opposed and that from the Scriptures of Truth testifying 1. God's Good-Will and Grace to Mankind in general 2. The real Causes on their Parts of his Severity towards them and their Reprobation I ●…aid down the Presbyterian Principle and Opinion as it may be seen in their Confession and Catechism agreed upon by their Assembly of Divines so called at Westminster and approved by the general Assembly of the Kirk of Scotland as where they say in their 3d Chapter That God from all Eternity did by the most wise and holy Counsel of his own Will freely and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass And that by the Decree of God for the Manifestation of his Glory some Men and Angels are predestinated unto everlasting Life and others fore-ordained unto everlasting Death and that these Angels and Men thus predestinated and fore-ordeined are particularly and unchangeably designed their Number so certain and definite that it cannot be either encreased or diminished c. And also upon the same Principle they add in their tenth Chapter That all those whom God hath predestinated unto Life and those only he is pleased effectually to call by his Word and Spirit out of the State of Sin and Death in which they are by Nature to Grace and Salvation by Jesus Christ enlightning their Minds spiritually and savingly to understand the things of God c. And in their eleaventh Chapter God did from all Eternity decree to justifie all the Elected and Christ did in the Fulness of time dye for their Sins and rise again for their Justification The Consequence of this Doctrine with a plain and scriptural Answer and Confutation are laid down in the latter End of our Book entituled The Glory of Christ's Light within expelling Darkness which Book yet remains unanswered by S. S. both as to this and other Heads wherein he and his Brethren are concerned though now in order to vindicate this Doctrine he layes down the Proposition thus S. Scandret That God did most freely and unchangeably and from all Eternity choose some particular Persons to partake of saving Grace c. from whence it will necessarily follow That he hath reprobated or passed by others I must manifest this by Parts Answ. In Opposition to this Partiality unjustly charged upon God I must assert this Proposition That God's eternal Election stands originally in his own Seed of Promise and free Grace thereby freely tendered to all Mankind both Jews and Gentiles and all Men in the first place left free for a Share therein and none are reprobated but who first reject this Grace and like not to retain God in their Knowledge his words that he hath reprobated or passed by others are very doubtful being as much as to say that either God hath from all Eternity reprobated particular Persons or left them to Reprobate themselves It is then either God's Act or the Creatures which as appears this Man's Masters the pretended Divines could not resolve and we do not expect him to be a more pro●…ound Divine then his Tutors However their Opinion at least reflects upon God as passi●…g by the greater part of Mankind without a●…ording them any Saving Grace or the least Spiritual Assistance of Divine Light or Life so as if he thus takes no notice of them at all but passeth by them they must inevitably be left to Destruction and eternal Misery by this Graceless and Uncharitable Opinion which tends greatly to ●…cclipse the Glory of
God and his free Grace and renders the Tenders of it to Mankind in general and preaching Salvation by it conditionally to all no better then a Mockery to the greater part of the World And this neither S. S. nor his Assembly of Divines have answered nor can they clear themselves herein S. S. begins to vindicate his Opinion by parts thus sect 1 1. God's Act which Essentially takes in the Object thereof he hath chosen some particular Persons 2 Thes. 2. 13. God hath Chosen you Joh. 15. 19. I have Chosen you Ephes. 1. 4. He hath Chosen us This being directly denyed I shall add Arguments Answ. The Scriptures are not denyed by me as most falsely is here insinuated but I deny that these prove their Proposition for a Personal Election or Reprobation from all Eternity as also I deny that God ●…rom all Eternity did unchangeably ordein whatsoever comes to pass as they most grosly asserted or that his Decree or Act is so absolute from all Eternity to particular Persons as strictly eying and unchangeably designing each Person to his End a certain definite Number unto everlasting Life and others to everlasting Death This I still oppose and find this Man's Vindication thereof very ●…eeble and his Proofs impertinent For that 2 Thes. 〈◊〉 13. He hath left out the following words after chosen you he leaves out through Sanctification of the Spirit and Belief of the Truth which as they clearly explain how they were chosen to Salvation even the Conditions on which God's Act of Chusing them depends to wit Sanctification of the Spirit and Belief of the Truth So this makes clearly against my Opposers Opinion for they were not capable of this Belief of the Truth and Sanctification before they had personal Beings which sure they had not from all Eternity and so seeing the Way and Act of God's chusing Men must be through Sanctification and of the Spirit and Belief of the Truth which Condition answers this Decree he hath not designed nor ordeined the contrary Condition of his Wrath against Man as Sin and Unbelief though they are come to pass upon many whose Repentance and Return God rather willed then their Death or Destruction But if S. S. might have pleaded a little further from the words God hath from the Beginning chosen you if he had insisted on the Words from the Beginning I might answer That does not signifie from all Eternity much less that he hath had you particular Persons in his Eye as unchangeably designing you to Salvation meerly as particular Persons without having Relation to any such Conditions or Qualifications as Faith Sanctification c. which may be rejected by Man 2. The Words from the Beginning are so far from signifying from all Eternity that in this place they reach not so far as to the Time of the Beginning of the Creation but rather to the Time of their first Reception and Belief of the Truth according as they import in divers other places as 1 Joh. 3. 11. This is the Message that ye have heard from the Beginning and 2 Joh. 5. Though Beginning in the highest Sense relateth to Christ as the divine Word who is the Beginning and the End And also note that S. S. deals with that of Joh. 15. 19. as he doth by the other leaving out both the foregoing and following Words which still make against him setting down only I have Chosen you whereas Christ said thus Because ye are not of the World but I have Chosen you out of the World therefore the World hateth you Joh. 15. 19. And then it is plain they were both of and in the World before they were chosen out of the World for could they be chosen out of that-which they were never in So that Christ's Chusing his out of the Corrupt Wayes and Spirit of the World through Faith and Sanctification is the Reason why the World hates them which it did not while they were Conformable to the World By the World here is understood those who are in the Natural Unbelieving State and also such as hate the true Believers and Disciples of Christ whence it follows that you Presbyterians how highly soever you conceit of your selves as Elect Persons from all Eternity above all others yet are not in the Election of Christ nor in a State of Election so 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Spirit o●… Persecution Rules in you as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 shewed it self in many of your Leaders and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And to that of Ephes. 1. 4. He hath Chosen us 〈◊〉 him These words In him to wit in Christ S. Scandret hath left out like one that both shuts his own Eyes and seeks to keep others in a blind Belief of his partial Principle The very Ground and Principle of Election being in Christ which the man overlooks God hath Chosen us the true Church which is Elect in him before the Foundation of the World that we should be Holy and without Blame before him in Love Ephes. 1. 4. For as we are in him and become so well qualified in Holiness and thus nearly related to him as to be without Blame in due time we shew forth the Effects and Fruits of that Elect Seed and Principle wherein our Life and Ground of Election stood before the Foundation of the World not merely as we are particular Persons or Natural men but as his living and Royal Of-spring his Church and peculiar People sprung from his own Seed now in due time chosen by him out of the World and the Corruptions thereof through Sanctification of the Spirit and Belief of the Truth S. S. Arg. 1. Particular Persons in time receive Mercy are converted sect 2 made to p●…rsevere are saved Therefore God did Decree this beforehand for God worketh according to the Counsel of his own Will Ephes. 1. 11. Answ. Particular Persons in time receiving Mercy being converted and persevering in Grace doth not argue that Mercy was but only proffered and shewed to a few particular Persons nor yet that it is so absolutely and Eternally Decreed of God that all to whom Mercy and Grace is shewed shall so inevitably persevere in it as that there is no Possibility of their Declension and Falling from it after the time of their receiving Grace while yet unestablished for 1. He hath concluded all under Sin that he might shew Mercy upon all 2. Those particulars who sincerely receive Mercy and Goodness upon them he will have Mercy both in a way of Continuance and Increase and unto them Goodness who abide in his Goodness Rom. 11. 20 21 22. It is true God worketh all things after the Counsel of his own Will his gracious and good Will counsels him to shew forth Goodness and Mercy to all in the first place and Severity or Damnation to none without Cause And his Will is alfo Believers Sanctification in order to which he graciously counsels and perswades Men by his Spirit to forsake Sin and be converted which manner of working in
of Condemnation both to Angels and Men to be their Sin in forsaking the Lord and living Ungodly But whereas S. S. renders God's fore-knowledge of all his Works as the Reason or Proof That he from eternity decreed particular Angels and Men for Destruction which appears Contradictory to his Masters of the Assemblies confessing viz. That God hath not decreed any thing because he foresaw it as future Confess Chap. 3 This Proof is as impertinent as the rest of his shallow Arguments for his fore-Knowledge being infinite it is no Proof that he hath absolutely decreed or ordained all things that come to pass because he foresaw all for he hath not ordained that Men should live in Sin though he hath designed their Punishment who do so live yet known unto the Lord are all his Work 's both those of his Creation which he wrought according to his absolute Pleasure both in Heaven and in Earth and in the Sea c. Psal. 135. 6. and Man was not capable of resisting his Maker in forming of him he was as the Clay in his Hand as also the Lord foreknew his work of Sanctification and saving of man from Sin and Death but this is not effected without a Subjection to his Will and a Compliance with his Spirit and Power in his Work within They are not Partakers of Salvation from Sin who wilfully gain-say the Truth resist the holy Ghost and act Despite against the Spirit of Grace But further I find S. S. so uncertain in the Management of his partial Proposition for a personal Election and Reprobation that he is made sometimes to grant and confess to Truth to his own absolute Confutation and the Break neck of his graceless Cause As by his Confessing That God hath no Pleasure in the Death of him that dieth considered barely as his Creature for he is willing to receive to Mercy every returning Sinner yet if a Person perseveres in Wickedness as such God will laugh at his Calamity c. Thus far S. S. From whence it follows 1st That God did not from Eternity decree the Damnation of particular Persons contrary to his declared Pleasure 2dly That persevering in Wickedness is the Cause of Men's Calamity 3dly A●…d their Perversness and Obstinacy in rejecting Wisdom's Reproof and Counsel the Cause that God will laugh at their Calamity and mock when their Fear cometh Now the Doctrine of Election and Reprobation as universally sect 11 and equally laid down in the Scriptures of Truth and as accordingly by us asserted for that there can be no Repugnancy either in God's Actions or in his Will whether secret or revealed as some vainly imagin cannot be inconsistent with God's Prohibitions Eat not of the Tree of Knowledge His conditional Promises If thou dost well shalt thou not be accepted If you Seek the Lord he will be found of you Whosoever believeth shall not perish shall not abide in Darkness His conditional Threats If thy Heart turn away thou shalt Perish If ye for sake him he will for sake you His sending his Son into the World not to Condemn the World He should have added Christ's Dying for all Men tasting death for every Man his giving his Spirit to instruct them His Setting Life and Death before them in the Promises and in the Threats or giving Men up to their Lusts for Sin This cannot be inconsistent with God's Election or Choice of true Believers and Obedient nor with his rejecting the Rebellious unto Reprobation for they evince the Truth thereof But the Presbyters partial Doctrine of Election and Reprobation of particular Persons and certain definite number of Men and Angels and their most grosly Asserting that God from all Eternity did freely and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass This is both inconsistent with those and such his Prohibitions conditional Promises and Threats His sending his Son not to condemn the World but that the World through him might be saved his dying for all Men his giving his good Spirit to the Disobedient to instruct them his setting Life and Death before them to chuse Life or perish Deut. 30. 15. to the end but Alas if from Eternity God had reprobated them or absolutely ordained and designed their Damnation and Curse how should they Chuse Life or Blessing Or if particularly unchangeably ordained to Life and Salvation from all Eternity Could there be any such Danger of their perishing or that they should thus need to be threatned with Cursing and Perishing if their Heart turned away from the Lord For had they been unchangeably designed of God for the one End whether Life or Death were it not very inconsistent to propose both conditionally to them as namely to exhort them to chuse Life or if they refused to threaten them with perishing c. do not you partial-minded Presbyters and Calvinists by such kind of Preaching and Propositions so contrary to your partial Principle most grosly dissemble with People and mock them contrary to your own Belief whenas Moses the Prophets and Apostles in such like Conditional Promises and Threats believed what they spoak they believed and therefore spoak from the Spirit of God which cannot lie nor dissemble If you say God hath decreed particular Persons Salvation by such Warnings you thereby tell us that he hath decreed it by Threatning them with Damnation and thereby you affix your non-sense incongruous Doctrine upon God rather then you will confess your own nonsensical Contradiction therein which runs thus That God hath from all Eternity unchangeably designed some Persons eternal Salvation and yet that he warns and threatens the same Persons with eternal Damnation or Perdition if they refuse Life or to ●…earken to him and obey him or if their Hearts turn away from him pray mark how inconsistent and contradictory this is like as to say It is unchangeably designed of God that you must live for ever yet take heed you do not dye eternally And to S. S. his adding All these are subservient to the Soveraign Design of God's Decrees The Magnifying his Mercy and Grace in the Salvation of all the Elect his Justice or Wrath in the Reprobates c. pag. 115. Ans. If by the Words All these as we may take him he intends according to the Assembly's Confession That God from all Eternity did most freely and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass then it may be understood that all these things those Conditions or States both Good and Bad which he mentions before are subservient to the soveraign Design of God's Decrees as he words it But if by all these he intends all these conditional Promises and Threats are so subservient as I think he doth then God's Decrees of Men Salvation or Damnation are also conditional accordingly as first If you seek the Lord he will be found of you and then as all are called to seek the Lord he hath also given Liberty and a Capacity to all to seek him that they may
for he Cursed his Day It is evident that Job's Perfection had none of this Extream in it nor did it consist with Sin for it is thus explained He feared God eschewed Evil. And upon his Loss of Goods and Children being told him it s said of him in all this Job sinned not nor Charg●…d God Foolishly Chap. 1. 22. and when smitten with sore Boyls and tempted by his Wise it is also said in all this did not Job si●… with his Lips Chap. 2. 10. But he Cursed his Day Chap. 3. He was then under an extream Tryal and Grief divers wayes aggravated the most that can be reasonably inferred from thence is that a Perfect or Upright Man that fears God a●…d eschews Evil may possibly through great Tryals Temptations or Provocations be drawn into an extream to express his Grief but this only if God suffers Satan so to affict or deeply to try for he could not have so afflicted Job if God had not suffered him in that he saw the Lord had hedged him about From whence observe that what is granted hereupon and what he argues is not in pursuance of the State of the Question as to grant that a Perfect Job may be tempted into some extream Expressions if God Suffer Satan so deeply to afflict him but Whether it be not possible for such a one to be delivered as well from all Failings or Sin as from the Tryal or Temptation For was not Job a Perfect Man both before and after his Deep Affliction and is not his Patience highly commended of who said when I am tried I shall come forth as Gold Now when I affirm that this refined State was attainable in this Life were it not absurd to object that it is not because Job cursed his Day for did Job do so all his Life time or did his Perfection reach no higher His Instance That God took six Dayes to create the World when he could have done it in a Moment is no Proof that he is only a mortifying Sin more and more in this Life and that he will remove its Being in the next pag. 63. Neither do the Scriptures any where say that the Being of Sin yet mortified in part shall remain in the Saints till the next Li●…e though we grant God took six Dayes to create the World and rested the seventh and so he carrieth on his Work gradually in the true Believer for the perfecting of the new Creation the six I ayes Work thereof as also the Seventh Day of Rest are to be experienced in this Life the Work o●… Holiness is to be perfected while in the Body and he that believeth enters into his Rest or Sabbath to injoy the holy Day in that inward retired waiting upon the Lord in his own Light wherein Man must not think his own Thoughts nor speak his own Words And as for God's Work it is perfect each Day 's Work was perfect as such the first Day 's Work not mended on the sixth Day and he that hath begun a good Work in the Soul is able to perfect it Whereas S. S. states the Question and Answer thus viz. Quest. But why will he not in this Life viz. remove the Being o●… Sin He answers It is his good Pleasure I Reply A damnable Doctrine to affirm that it is God's Good Pleasure that the Being of Sin should remain in his Saints all their Life time or till the next when he hath no Pleasure in Evil therefore doth prohibit all Sin Quest. Can he see the Continuance of Evil good or that his Command should not be kept To this he answers He sees good to suffer Corruptions in par 〈◊〉 in his Saints to keep them humble drive them to his Blood and Righteousness c. Reply Let the so●…er Reader mark the Nature and Tendency of this Do●…rine First How Impiously he reflects upon God as seeing it Good to suffer Corruptions either but in part mortified or in part unmortified in his Saints in this Life for his Doctrine bears the same Sense on both Hands as that God sees it good to suffer Corruptions if but in part mortified then in part unmortified in his Saints And then 2dly What a great Use and Service doth he place upon the remaining of Corruptions in the Saints as namely to keep them humble exercise and drive them to his Blood and Righteousness which is as good Doctrine as to say There is a Necessity for the Saints to sin that they may be humbled to do Evil that Good may come of it and by this the more they sin the more humble the more Unrighteous or Corrupt the more Partakers of the Blood Righteousness of Christ which are gross I●…consistencies Shall we sin that Grace may abound God forbid Christ's Blood cleanseth us from all Sin as we walk in the Light and his Righteousness admitteth of no Iniquity to continue For us to feel the Remission of Sins past through the Blood and Righteousness of Christ when we are come to the lively Act and Operation of Faith therein doth sufficiently render the infinite Perfection of Pardoning Grace both splendent and glorious and not to say That God sees good that Corruptions in part should continue in his Saints to keep them humble for this is a manifest pleading for Sin and a Commendation given to it as to those good Effects vainly supposed of Corruptions viz. To keep the Saints humble to drive them to his Blood whereas when they are truly humbled and Partakers of the Blood and Righteousness of Christ and living in the Sence thereof they withstand all Sin and Iniquity and dare not give way thereto that they may be righteous They that will teach men true Humility must not teach them to be Proud that they may be Humble nor tell them that it is God's good Pleasure that the Being of Sin and Corruptions must remain in them all their dayes or till the Life to come to keep them humble neither is a perfect or holy State so void of true Humility as this Sin-pleasing Doctrine implyeth But this is something like the Papists high Commendation of Man's Fall where in their Saturday-Mass in the Deacon's Hymn are these words O 〈◊〉 necessarium Adae peccatum quod Christi morte deletum est O felix culpa quae talem ac tantum meruit habere redemptorem O vere 〈◊〉 nox quae sola meruisti scire tempus horam in qua Christ us ab inferis resurrexit i. e. O surely the Sin of Adam was necessary which by Christ's Death was blotted out O blessed Fault that hast deserv'd to have so great and such a Redeemer O truly blessed Night which alone hast deserv'd to know the Time and Hour wherein Christ rose from the Hells Again To prove it God's good Pleasure not to remove the Being of Sin in this Li●…e that he sees good to suffer Corruptions c. And in answer to my Objection That his Pleasure is not contrary to his
p. 64. and when that shall be he explains p. 85. at his Coming in the End of the World quoting 1 Thes. 4. 17. Mark Reader here how plainly he contradicteth his Saying That At Death Sin is forever totally abolished Now it is in the End of the World when Christ cometh Personally as he supposeth to Judgment So by this confused Work one while Sin is Not done away in this Life another while it Is done away At Death another while it Is done away After Death another while it is Not done away Till the last Trump or End of the World whereas there are many Believers and Saints deceased in the mean time and many long since dissolved as to their outward Man what becomes of their Souls between the Time of their Departure and the End of the World for he hath confessed that No Unclean Thing shall enter the Kingdom of God So then if the Saints deceased be not throughly cleansed from Sin before nor Sin to be done away till the E●…d of the World what other Place besides Heaven ca●… he provide or think of for the Saints deceased How can he avoid the Pope's imagined Purgatory unless he hold the Mortality of the Soul that it dyes or sleeps in the Dust with the Body To his alledging That the Ministry is to continue to the last Trump and to the last Trump will Sin be in the Saints but then in a Moment will the Saints be changed and perfected If he intends that the Saints have their Benefit and part in the Ministry each in their Life time and several Ages how doth this clear his concluding that to the End of the World or last Trump Sin will be in the Saints that then in a Moment they shall be changed for many of the Saints are deceased many Hundreds of Years since which if Sin be in them still they do not particularly partake of the blessed End of Christ's Ministry and Gifts which were for the Perfecting of the Saints till all come into the Unity of the Faith and of the Knowledge of the Son of God unto a Perfect Man c. and yet those deceased Saints are not now under the Ministry of Apostles c. From Ephes. 4. 13. he saith That perfect Man is Christ with all his Members for he consists of many and he is thus to be a perfect Man in the other World not this pag. 46. Whereas the Benefit of God's Gifts did as well extend to the particular Saints and Members of his Body as to the whole Body to wit till we all come in the Unity of the Faith c. That we henceforth be no more Children tossed to and fro c. Ephes. 4. 14. There is no Danger of their being tossed in the other World with Windy Doctrines Both their Perfection and Establishment and Growing up in Christ in all things being Effects of his Gifts and Ministry which were experienced and obtained in this Life S. S. The Ministry and Scriptures were perfecting the Saints as long as they live Deut. 17. 19. The King shall read therein all the Dayes of his Life that he may Learn to fear therein the Lord his God If he is to Learn to fear God all the Dayes of his Life c. pag. 65. Answ. Are the Saints then but a Learning to fear the Lord God all the Dayes of their Life or Doth that King in the time of the Old Covenant represent the best State of the Saints in the New the King that was forbidden to multiply Wives Horses Silver or Gold to himself Are the best of Saints in the New Covenant in Danger of these things and therefore to be restrained by an outward Law that their Hearts turn not away from the Lord whereas he hath promised I will put my Fear in their Hearts and they shall not depart from me and this is a Condition of his Everlasting Covenant That there is a time of Perfecting Believers or Saints before they are Perfected I confess as while God was Creating the World it was not Created but I differ with him in his counting it God's good Pleasure that Sin should remain in the Saints and that to keep them Humble either till Death till after Death or to the End of the World and it were more absurd to say That Sin will remain even in the Saints deceased till the End of the World to keep them Humble It is true as he saith That whilst a Carpenter is building an House the House is not builded pag. 65. but then if the Carpenter undertakes to build a House and bargains for a Price to build it and then doth not build it or tells a Man whose Money he hath got It is true I took your Money to perfect this Building but I can get but little of it builded you must not expect to have it builded while you live Would not the Man reply then Give me my Money again But Carpenters do not use to cheat men thus They that are Honest do not use to serve People as you pretended Ministers do who say You are sent for Perfecting the Saints and for this take Money and Gifts and Rewards and yet tell them Perfection is NOT attainable in this Life Honest Carpenters would not deal thus with them In Psalm 119. 1 2 3 4. Blessed are the Undefiled in the Way he saith In Point of Justification Believers are in Christ their Head clear as the Moon fair as the Sun In Point of Sanctification through the Renewing and Assisting Grace they do not allow themselves in any known Sin but in God's Fear oppose all pag. 65. He hath said enough to break the Neck of his own Cause 1st Unless to be In Christ Spotless Clear as the Moon and Fair as the Sun be a Spotted or Sinful State 2dly Unless that there must remain some Sins in those that are in Christ which cannot be known to them whereas he that abideth in Christ sinneth not And He hath left us an Example that we should follow his Steps who did not sin And the Word Justifie sometimes useth to signifie to make Just by inherent Holyness or to Sanctifie as he confesseth pag. 89. Upon Titus 3. 5. 7. But if to evade this he renders Justification in their sense of Im●…utation then it is to reckon them Spotless Clear as the Moon Fair as the Sun who are yet Spotted Corrupted and Defiled with Sin But if in the Fear of the Lord true Believers through Renewing and Assisting Grace do not allow themselves in any known Sin but in God's Fear oppose all then if a Discovery of all Sin by the Light be attainable to them not only to Oppose but to Overcome all Sin through assisting Grace is attainable in this Life for Resist the Devil and he will flye And we can do all things through Christ that strengthneth us knowing our Faith in him which is the Victory and also obtaineth actual Dominion over Sin Whereas Psal. 119. 3. They also do no Iniquity
nor the Being of Sin forthwith excluded p. 68. yet by Degrees it comes fully to be effected and Sin put an End to as there is a waiting in Patience and Diligence upon him who hath begun a good Work who will also perfect it That the Righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us on this he thus paraphraseth Fulfill signifies sincerely to obey the Law 1 Chron. 22. 13. that is sincerely to obey every Precept so far as we attain to understand it Thus far he contradicts his pleading for the Being of Sin and Corruptions in the Saints and his denying perfect Obedience to be attainable in this Life yet I assert that Man in his own Will Strength cannot attain sincerely to obey the Law of God but through the Power and Aid of Christ Jesus he may attain to the Righteousness or Substance of the Law to be fulfilled in him being led by the Spirit of Life for the Law thereof in Christ makes free from the Law of Sin and Death But when this Opposer adds Thus in the other World God's People shall attain to fulfil the Righteousness of the Law p. 69. Herein he perverts Scripture and puts Christ's Work afar off who is the End of the Law for Righteousness not to indulge Men in Sin to them that believe and he came to condemn Sin in the Flesh that the Righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us who walk not after the Flesh but after the Spirit which State the Apostle did not put off to the other World And if the Gospel or Law of the Spirit of Life free us from the Law of Sin and Death and Christ was sent to condemn Sin in the 〈◊〉 which Words he turns thus viz. Condemned our Sin in him I say First Why should we be subject to the Law of Sin a●…d Death or 〈◊〉 believe a Freedom from the Being of Sin when its Power Law and Rule is taken away These are inconsistent Must Men needs subject themselves to that which is brought under by the Power of Christ and Law of Life in him His saying He condemned our Sin in him will not excuse him from being condemned with Sin if he doth not come to find Sin condemned and destroyed in himself and Man's Disobedience to the Law of God within will not be excused by what Christ hath done and suffered without neither will your Application cause you to be lookt on as if from the Beginning of Life to the End to have obeyed the Law as Creatures to have satisfied it as Sinners p. 69. Surely God doth not so look upon you while you continue in Sin and his Spirit striving with you and reproving of you for Sin and Corruption God and his Spirit do not so oppose on another and yet he is Gratious and Merciful ready to pardon and forgive Sins past upon true Repentance and that for Christ's sake who is the Propitiation c. but the Notion of Satisfaction as it is taken in the severe Sense of strict Payment in Law by undergoing the full Punishment It is not consistent with the Gratiousness of God in forgiving Sins past on unfeigned Repentance but sufficient is said to that Point He is offended that we should say to him and his Brethren You plead for Sin he calls this an opprobrious and gross Slander but hath not cleared himself thereof but verified it as appears in this Discourse of his And his saying Who do more call Men off from sinning then we If he had added Who tell People that to come off or be free from Sin is not attainable in this Life and that it is God's good Pleasure not to destroy the Being of Sin in this Life and that he sees good Corruptions should remain in his Saints to keep them humble Then the World might easily have judged how heartily they call Men off from Sin or rather how they impiously plead for Sin as necessary He sayes Their Light without the Scriptures will help to call men off from Lying Injustice Uncleanness c. They should then obey it for then it necessarily calls unto Truth Justice Purity c. and consequently to Heaven Depart from ●…vil and do Good and dwell for evermore We urge Men to the Observance of the Christian Sabbath p. 69. And what is that Christian Sabbath And how do you urge men to Observe it Was not the Jews Sabbath a Type of the Christians Sabbath or Rest And do they not cease from their own Works and Thoughts being not to think their own Thoughts on this Sabbath or holy Day We press to repent of the very Being of an evil Thought in us But do you press it in the Faith Do you believe that the Being of evil Thoughts can be remov'd in this Life else what signifies your pressing to repent thereof Your Denouncing against men's Allowing themselves in Sin Wickedness Your saying It is the Duty of all to be Perfect to Press after it to watch against all even the least Sins p. 70. What avails all this when you press and preach thus in your Unbelief You unsay what you here pretend when you tell people It is God's Good Pleasure that the Being of Sin and Corruption should remain in his Saints to keep them humble What Incouragement do you here give People to press after Perfection and to watch against all Sin when you tell them A Sinless Perfection is not attainable But he brings an Instance for their Encouragement as he thinks viz. If two Companies of Children were to run a Race and one should say to this Company There are strong Men at the End of the Race if you run as strong and as fast as they can run you are to enjoy a rich Inheritance but if not you are to dy By the way observe he very egregiously doth mistate the Case and Doctrine of those called Quakers for they do not propose Heaven and Salvation upon these Terms as for Children to run as fast as Men but that Children may become Men and in the mean time act according to their Abilities beyond which God doth not impose upon them nor require of them but that the Race that is set before us may be run with Patience which ought to have her perfect Work that we may be perfect and intire wanting nothing It is certain that they who have begun in the Spirit and spiritual Journey who are diligent using their best Endeavours and hold out shall enjoy an Everlasting Inheritance And this is not to cut off their Endeavours by Despair as falsly is supposed against the Quakers upon the said Mistating of their Case but your Preaching tends to Despair when you press People after Purity and Perfection and then tell them It is Not attainable in this Life He further adds against us There must be no Sin at all in you and then you shall obtain Salvation 〈◊〉 I must be quite free from all Sin here or burn in Hell to all Eternity pag.
as it pleaseth God or that shall inherit God's Kingdom Howbeit As to be Quickened implieth a Death first and Resurrection a Fall before and to be Changed that there was either a vile corruptible Suffering or low Estate before So all that come to know Christ in them and the Body dead because of Sin know the Spirit to be Life because of Righteousness And if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the Dead dwell in you he that raised up Jesus from the Dead shall also quicken your mortal Bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you Rom. 8. 10 11 12 13. And this plainly is a quickening unto Righteousness by the Spirit dwelling within which is far from being a Proof of T. H's Opinion though cited by him And as in the first Adam is both the Fall and Death come over all men so in the second Adam who is the Resurrection and the Life all are made alive and that unto Righteousness who first come to see the Body dead because of Sin and the Deeds of the Body mortified Rom. 8. 13. or who come to know Christ and the Power of his Resurrection and the Fellowship of his Sufferings being made conformable unto his Death these attain unto the Resurrection of the Dead Phil. 3. 10 11. Such do not strive for a Notion thereof but to attain to it As to the manner of Existences or Beings of all men in the World to come there is no Necessity for any to be taking thought or busying their Minds about them it being in the Pleasure and Wisdom of God to reserve all to their due and deserved Ends in an immortal Capacity Our present Concernment is so to know and esteem of Christ as that we may be found in him not only mortified to the Corruptions of this World through the Fellowship of his Suffering and Conformity unto his Death But also interessed in that blessed Resurrection which is only attained to in Christ who is the Resurrection and the Life that he may be magnified in our Body whether by Life or Death To what he saith in his 59. pag. about the B●…dy that was dead about that It which is raised about the So●…l and the Seed of God the Matter is answered else where yet First All that know the Body dead because of Sin having mortified the Deeds of the Flesh and being conformable to the Death of Christ as dead with him shall alfo be quickned and raised up by his Spirit that dwells in them which is Life because of Righteousness and such only can speak experimentally of the Seed of God and the Soul 2dly That there is a Seed of God and a Seed of the Serpent in Mankind according to G. F. Junior's relation he further tells you that they that discern the Body of each Seed are not the Fools which are questioning how the dead should be raised and with what Body for they know that all Mankind will be found in one of these two Seeds By which it is plain he doth not exclude men from a future Being or Immortality nor confound them with the very Being of God though it is by his invisible Power that all are upheld in their respective Existences in Immortality whether they be found in the Nature and Image of the good Seed or of the evil T. H. And since he calls them Fools that is the Apostles and all true Christians that say This Body of Flesh and Bones shall arise pag. 59. Rep. He should have produced his plain Scripture for the Apostles so saying where are these Words to be found in all the Scriptures of the new Testament that this Body of Flesh and Bones shall arise again Doth not the Apostle say the contrary Thou sowest not that Body that shall be And Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God But must we then suppose as some Professors do That these Bodies of Flesh and Bones shall inherit the Kingdom of God without any Blood in them Or that after they are returned to Dust they shall arise again the self same as they are without any new Creation I confess this is such kind of new Philosophy as I have not read of before The man has run himself into such strange Confusion and wholy misses the Sense of the Resurrection and the Life and over looks the true Seed and Root of the Matter while in his vain mind he is imagining muddling and Devil-like disputing about the Body which in Comparison of the immortal Existence and being of Man is but an outside Case earthly Shell or Husk that disolveth Again he saith If this Seed of the Serpent be only Sin and the Seed of Christ only Grace it is only Sin and Grace which shall arise again p. 60. Oh the gross Darkness and Ignorance of this Man He knows not the Seed of the Serpent from whence Sin springs nor the Seed of God from whence Grace and Life flows But falsly supposes that our Principle extinguishes the future distinct beings of Men though it hath been plainly told him that all Mankind will be found in one of these two Seeds As also we testifie from that Sence of Life and Immortality that is brought to Light in us through the Gospel That the Soul whole spiritual Man and spiritual Body shall exist in Immortality yea though our outward Man perish yet the inward Man is renewed day by day and in order to possess an eternal Weight of Glory 2 Cor. 4. This inward Man is neither extinguish'd by the perishing of the outward Man nor thereby deprived of that Advantage which is an eternal Weight of Glory And that God giveth it a Body as it pleaseth him and to every Seed his own Body or his proper Body The Man would know what this It is shewing his Dubiousness of his own Assertion before viz. That it is a mortal Body of Flesh and Bones whether it shall be raised and go to Heaven with any Blood in it he tells us not and that the Body given it is the same for Substance that is as good Sense as to say the Body of Flesh and Bones shall when it is raised have the same Body of Flesh and Bones given to it whereas it is to every Seed his proper Body which is comprehensive both of the Seed of the Righteous and the Seed of the Wicked of the Seed of God and the Seed of the Serpent and so comprehends and takes in the whole Body of Mankind under those two Relations and Natures not to dissolve or extinguish their Rational Intelligible Beings with the perishing and dissolvable Earthly Outside or Case but that all shall be reserved for their due and proper Ends according to the Seed Nature and Image which their Soul carries with it when it parts with the Earthly Cloathing And whereas it is said that It is sown a Natural Body it is raised a Spiritual Body the great Stress is laid on the particle IT which may as well be applyed to Wheat or
other Grain It is sown and It is raised when the Body or outside of that very Corn that is sown is dead though the innate Virtue or Life doth not in it self dye nor fruitlesly expire Thou sowest not that Body that shall be c. yet in these two relations It is used as relative both to that which is sown and to that Body that shall be while in the very next Words to those before cited it is said there is a Natural Body and there is a Spiritual Body 1 Cor. 15. 44. and these can no more be the self-same then Celestial and Terrestrial Bodies can or then the first Adam and the laft Adam or the Earthly and the Heavenly which the Apostle plaiuly distinguisheth between as he doth betwixt the Natural and the Spiritual But whereas T. H. and his Brethren so much argue from the word It as It is sown a Natural Body It is raised a Spiritual they take this It for Idem corpus the self-same Body in both Their Mistake is evident they have not this either from the Greek or Latin see 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 seminatur corpus animale surgit corpus spirituale i. e. a Natural or Animal Body is sown a Spiritual Body riseth it is not Idem surgit Nor would this agree with the next Words There is a Natural Body and there is a Spiritual Body This admits of no such Transubstantiation as that the self-same Natural Body should become Spiritual or be the Subject of such an Accident And it is sown 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 an Animal Body or as having Life a Living Body which therefore cannot be the Body as dead and laid in the Graves for in that Condition they are not Corpus Animale for that relates to the Earthly Adam or Body of Mankind as having a natural Life ●…nd must not even the Animal or Natural Man dye before the Spiritual Man be risen or Immortality in Christ be put on And is not the Natural or Animal Man doposed to the Renewed Man 1 Cor. 2. 14. And the Seed which is sown in Weakness must needs have some Degree of Life in it when sown whether Natural or Spiritual and the Weakness and Corruption doth relate to the Subject in which it is sown if the Seed it self be incorruptible And as the First Man is of the Earth Earthly the second Man is the Lord from Heaven and As is the Earthly Such are they also that are Earthly and As is the Heavenly Such are they that are Heavenly ver 47 48. which if this be owned it must be granted that they that are Heavenly must have Bodies sutable viz. Heavenly or Spiritual Bodies this Heavenly being the second Man the Lord from Heaven ver 47. And mark As is the Heavenly Such are they that are Heavenly which cannot be the same with Earthly any more then the Image of the Heavenly can be the Image of the Earthly And as to our being asked what this Mortal is that must put on Immortality Though Mortal in this place implies a dying Condition of Man as the Effect of Sin as in Adam all dye yet it cannot as having put on Immortality be relative to Flesh and Blood but as admitted in a Heavenly and Spiritual Sense for the Apostle plainly tells us but a little before Now this I say Brethren that Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God neither doth Corruption inherit Incorruption Behold I shew you a Mystery We shall not all Sleep but we shall all be Changed ver 50 51. And so by that Life and Immortality which is brought to Light we see beyond Death and Mortality and we though as in a dying State yet behold Immortality being quickned by the second Adam and renewed again into the Image of the Heavenly being made alive in Christ who redeems Man from Death ransoms the Soul from the Power of the Grave who swallows up Mortality and Death in Life and Victory and saith O Death I will be thy Plagues O Grave I will be thy Destruction Hos. 13 14. Isa. 25. 8. by whom also Death being so swallow'd up into Victory the Sting of it which is Sin taken away They who thus have their part in Christ who is the Resurrection and Life can truly say Thanks be to God who gives us the Victory through our Lord Jesus Christ 1 Cor. 15. ●…7 And to take off further Surmisings against us I tell my Opposer that this Resurrection or Change extends not only to a Raising of Man up from Sin to Righteousness but also to an Eternal Glory And 't is not only the Raising up of the Seed or Grace in Man as he supposes but the Raising up of Man from Sin Death Hell and the Grave even in the Seed and Life which is the Ransom and this answers his Cavils in his 6●… and 61. Pages only where he fictitiously makes us speak thus viz. Qu. We believe the Resurrection of the Body though we know not what that Body is which shall rise And then he absurdly makes a Christian to answer thus viz. Chr. Thou saidst before the Light within was the divine Essence either then thy Light within thee is not God or God knows not all things c. Reply First he feigneth the Quacker though we will never own him to be our Mouth for the Words were not so spoken by me or us but that we ought not to be too Curious or Inquisitive in things beyond our Capacities as to the Manner of the Existences hereafter or how Men shall be reserved unto their several Ends and Rewards for God knows how to do it but we being sensible of the different Seeds we cannot be altogether ignorant of the Nature of each Body being proper to the Seed it belongs to Yet if with John we say it doth not yet appear what we shall be it is Satisfaction that we know what Manner of Love the Father hath bestowed upon us that we should be called the Sons of God for such are Sons of the Resurrection 2dly T. H. abuses the Christian by making him speak absurdly that which implies that if Man have a Divine Light in him he must needs know all that the Light knows or else either conclude that the Light is not Divine or else God is not Omniscient and then it follows from hence that none have either a Divine Light or God dwelling in them unless they know as much as God which was a Temptation to Man at first and by this he hath shut out all not only the fallen World but God's People also from having any Divine Light or Power of God in them He scoffs at some of our Friends saying We own the Resurrection that is We witness it and then adds But what is it you witness the Resurrection of the Seed 'T is Christ in you Ans. Is this a matter to be taunted or scoffed at Hath he truly acted the part of a Christian thus to slight the Arising of the Righteous
Seed in any or Christ's Arising who doth appear reveal himself and arise in the Souls that believe in him to raise them also up with him yea and that which the Father hath given him he will loose nothing o●… it but raise it up at the last Day And if you do not come to know a Righteous Seed raised up in you and Truth to spring up out of the Earth and to witness Christ to be your Resurrection and Life you remain dead in your Sins and short of the Glory of this Resurrection But in witnessing Christ to be the Resurrection and the Life unto us we do not assert that it is only the Seed or Christ in us that doth arise as is vainly imagined but we are revived and do arise in and with him as those that have believed in his Name as he said I am the Resurrection and the Life he that believeth in me though he were dead yet shall he live and he that liveth and believeth in me shall never dye wherein he doth not take notice of the putting off of the earthly Body or Cloathing as his dying or Death And as in Adam all dye even so in Christ shall all be made alive but every man in his own order Christ the first Fruits afterward they that are Christ's at his Coming and this is not to exempt Man from the Benefit of the Resurrection nor to say That Christ and the Light within is sown Natural Mortal and Corruptible as T. H. most malitiously and falsly accuseth us by way of Question as asserting Blasphemy To which he farther adds that we intend the Resurrection of something past and witness in our selves What is Falsehood and Deceipt if this be not p. 61. And further saith Thus do you undermine the very Foundation of Faith Hope and Holiness of Life like Hymneas and Philotus 2 Tim. 2. 17. who said the Resurrection is past already To which I answer first What we witness in ourselves of the Resurrection it is this Man 's horrible Blasphemy to call it Falsehood and Deceipt for that we do witness to Christ as being the Resurrection and the Life revealed in us so far as we have a living Knowledge of him and Experience of being by him raised up from Sin and Death that came by it in order to attain to a future Glory 2dly 'T is a Gross Slander that we either intend or say like Hymneas and Philotus that the Resurrection is past already for that it is not yet as to Man compleatly we are not yet raised to what we shall be as namely to that Fulness of Glory and absolute Joy and Tryumph which shall be incessantly possest after our Labours and Sufferings are ended and our Earthly House dissolved for the more we are drawn up into absolute Spirituality the more capable we are of that full Fruition of an eternal Weight of Glory in the Heavens in order to which let us be Spiritually minded and walk in Holiness of Life while here in our earthly House As also we cannot hold that the Resurrection is past already while we or any of us are suffering with Christ and travailing in order to attain unto the Resurrection of the Dead that is perfectly to be raised up with Christ who is the Resurrection and Life in some Degree at least of all that truly believe in his Name and Power Neither is this to undermine the Foundation of true Faith Hope or Holiness of Life while we confess Christ to be that Foundation But to argue for Sin and Imperfection term of Life and so to put off being Perfect till in Heaven as this Opposer hath done this is repugnant to the Foundation of living and purifying Faith and Hope and so excludes Holiness of Life howbeit he thinks to arrive at Heaven with the same Carnal Carcass or Corruptible Cask he now beats about with him only he thinks it will be new drest up and polisht after it is turned to Dust But the greatest Miracle is that it must not be Created a new nor a new Created Body and unless we grant him this he reckons our Religion a meer Cheat calculated only to the Service of the Devil and our own Lusts and that it denies any Eternal Advantage and therefore be opposeth the Christian to the Quaker p. 62. And what is the Marrow of his Matter for this severe Conclusion upon us But First he accuseth us of a palpable Denyal of all future and distinct Beings and Existences after Death pag. 62. which is a palpable and notorious Untruth for as we confess to the distinct Beings of Angels in Heaven so we confess the future distinct Beings and Existences of the Saints and Children of the Resurrection that in the World to come they shall be AS the Angels of God yea They which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that World and the Resurrection c. They shall be equal unto the Angels and are the Children of God being the Children of the Resurrection Luk. 20. 36. And what Bodies have these Angels of God Terrestrial or Celestial Carnal or Spiritual let that be considered 2dly The Man 's other Pretence is If the Soul be a Part of God Divine Infinite as before and returns into God being God it cannot miscarry he saith His Abuse concerning this hath been answer'd before both in this Treatise and in my Book of the Nature of Christianity And it was never asserted by us either of the Soul of Man or of the Spirit or Existence of Man or the Creature which may vary in its Affections to Good or Evil according to the Power that acts Man Neither can it be conceived in Reason but Envie that any of us should look upon the Infinite God to be Divisible into so many Parts or Particles as there are Entities or Existences of Men yet that there is an Infinite Life Principle or Seed in the Soul of every Man This we confess as that by which the Soul immortally subsists in its being and therefore this may be counted the Soul or Life of the Soul for without this the Soul of man could not subsist in an Immortal Capacity And this I and divers others can testifie that G. F. did not intend or asscribe either Immutability Infiniteness or Divinity to the meer formed or created Spirit Soul or Being of Man but to the divine immediate Inspiration or Breath of Life flowing from God himself who inspired into him an active Soul and breathed in a living Spirit Wisd. 15. 11. whereby Man became both a living and reasonable Soul indued with Rational Intellectual and Spiritual Parts 3dly I know no other Reason he can pretend for his Charge against us and our Religion as a Cheat and as denying an eternal Advantage but that we do not own his gross and carnal Sense of the Resurrection though it be none of our Phrase to say in these general words That the Body perisheth forever but hereby he plainly implies man's Incapacity of an
suffering Times and se 〈◊〉 In●…erest and Gain hath much stopt you (t) You cannot get them rooted out without the Power of God which only is received by believing in his Light within (v) Your House is not yet purged of them however this was an honest Care to endeavour such a purging better then to excommunicate Persons for owning the Light within (w) Which they are very prone to for Advantage (x) Many more Evils you had n●…od now to spread before them But S. S. tells us not whether or no he owns those Books called Apocrypka or any of them as any part of his Rule or Canon or whether he is not of the same Opinion with his Masters of the Assembly where in their confession they say that the Books commonly call'd Apocrypha not being of divine Inspiration are no part of the Canon of the Scriptures therefore are of no Authority in the Church of God nor to be any otherwise approved or made use of then other human Writings Thus farr the Assembly but this general Debasement of these Books we cannot own 1 Sam 28. 11. 〈◊〉 This Contra-distinction is his own or Tutor's Inventing * Mark well pag. 93. pag. 94. pag. 95. pag. 96. * Though they seem to render Adam worse then the Devil who is the Author of sin and Immediate Tempter to it to lay more to Adam's Charge then to the Devil or their own corrupt Hearts and vile Affections which constantly att●…nd them pag. 98. Luk. 15. 18 19. pag. 99. To his 10. 11th Argum. pag. 89. pag. 130. pag. 100. pag. 100. The Apostles Doctrine our Opposers Inconsistent * Many more Comparisons instances might be produced to 〈◊〉 how inconsisient our Opposers are with the true Apostles and their Doctrine Object pag. 101. pag. 102. Notewhat Doctrine is here Phil. 3 4 5 6 7 8 9. Arg. 12. 13. pag. 103. pag. 103. 104. pag. 104. pag. 106. pag. 102. pag. 104. Truth saith not this to Christ but to the Offenders Deut. 27. A Testimony against S. S's Doctrine Isa. 43. 11 25. pag. 104. pag. 104. pag. 105. As S. S. hath pag. 105. Also his Brother T. Dans. saith Christ was not Innocent but guilty of our Sins when he suffered Synops. p. 36 40. pag. 105. pag. 105. Heb. 12. 24. Chap. 9. 14 15. pag. 106. Christ's tasting Death for every Man could not be the same with the full Punishment that 's due for Sin pag. 106. pag. 107. pag. 108. Is not this like the Language of Hell or theirs saing of Christ will he kil himself And he is guilty of death This is something like his Brother W. Haworth his Affirming That the Father poured out all his Wrath upon his Son Jesus Christ and that this way he Satisfied Vengeance which he cals his Justice in his Epistle to their Quaker Converted answered by John Crook and W. Bayly in their Book Rebellion rebuked but the Adversaries of Truth shall finde there 's wrath yet for them if they repent not pag. 109. pag. 109. pag. 109. pag. 109. pag. 110. pag. 110. Object 〈◊〉 Hebr. 9. 23. The Presbyterians or Predestinarians Gospel anti-scriptural The Conditions and Tendence of the Quakers Gospel Scriptural Presbyter Opinion * What soever makes no Exception of either good or bad Actions of men and this is high Ranterism * Note They place it upon particular Persons rendering God a Respecter of Persons * Whereas he dyed for all men and is a Propitiation for the Sins of the whole World These were of cur Opposers 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is Order or Rank 1 Cor. 15. 23. Edom relates to the Earthly Birth Gen. 35. 10. Confession of Faith The Hardness and Cruelty of Pharaoh 〈◊〉 app●…ared against the Hebrews witness the Murtherous Intentio●… of that King who gave Command to kill th●… Male-children Exod 1. 16. their great Affliction Bondage v. 11 14. until the Lord heard their Cry a●…ter much Forbcarance pag. 115. * Which is our Sense of the Matter in both * Note the Consequences of the Predestina●…ian Opinion against universa●… Grace Pag. 116. 1 Sam. 11. 5 15. 12. 9. Psal. 89 These many do slight and refuse and both resist grieve quench the Spirit in its low and tender Appearance to their own Destruction and Misery when the Love and long Suffering of God is turned into Wrath and Indignation against them * How long before their Conformity to Christ were they appointed Was it from all Eternity or rather in their Age and Time Had not this and all other meer Acts and Works of God a beginning in their time and season considered as meer Acts Could this of his appointment then be from eternity and so far a Preappointment meerly respecting particular Persons and with exclusion of all besides from any saving Grace This is still harsh and partial and unequal contrary to God's Wayes although as the general Fore-appointment and Ordination of God concerning the true Believers and obedient is that they shall be saved So this Predestina ion or Fore-appointment includes or reaches all the many holy Brethren in whom Christ is formed Vid. Mass in Lat. Eng. by Ja. Mountain pag. 121 122 123. pag. 69. Pag. 69. Pag. 70. Pag. 70. Indef Seek pag. 71. The Light within the Rule Pag. 74. Vide Gill's Sermen on Eccl. 7. 19 20. in his Essay * Dialoge 1 Cor. 15. 22 23. 2 Cor. 5. 1. 8. Phil. 1. 21. Acts 17. 30 31. Mat. 10. 15. 11. 22 24. 12. 36. Job 21. 30. 2 Pet. 2. 9. 3. 7. Psal. 102. 25. Hebr. 1. 10 11 21. See also 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Chap. 19. 〈◊〉 * He takes It for Idem the Self same Body but where hath he this ●…ither from the Greek or Latine on the place cited Isa. 3. 9. Luk. 20. 35. * T. D. 〈◊〉 Note Pag. 16. * Note Then not the same gross Bodies but as a pure Extract * Which cannot be This 〈◊〉 Flesh. * Not Why are we not then to have as spiritual a Sense of the Resurrection * Nay they shall have far better * A Glory 〈◊〉 that of 〈◊〉 Earthly Bodies * Not only as spiritually qualified but as a spiritual Body * Which excel all Terrestrial Bodies * Concerning the Judgment of the Wiked * Which is not Carnal but Spiritual * And who must make so vile and like Devils * And who must drag the Devils to Judgment then if they must be so officious for Justice * What sad Work 's here * He thinks of a Good Place for himself however * Rather an empty talk to sell at a dear ra●… * Presbyters are not wont to be so free * Is it so then God did not decree it as his own meer Wist Pleasure 〈◊〉 personal Election and Reprobation * Was he so Good Doctrine But then he did not decree their Damnation from eternity * True then the true light was freely given to them to shew them the Way out of evil * That was their Fault still and not Gods Decre●… * What will become of the Covetous Priests and Presbyters then * And so did many of the Presbyters when parish Priests * An Uncharitable Sentence * The guilty Conscience and d●…filed Mind is attended with such Imaginations of Torments which though they are not real but Imaginary yet they produce a real Torment and Horror to some and in these things appears an Image of that future Darkness that the Wicked will have their due Rewards in But these frightfull Stories of T. Vincent's do not fright People out of their Sins nor reach their Cons●… for that End They must be directed to the LIGHT which discovers Sin and disturbeth Men in their wicked Courses as he cor●…sesseth To this they must come and bring their Deeds whoever escape Damnation or attain to the blessed Resurrection and future Glory From a true Sence and Knowledge of the Terrors of the Lord men may be perswaded from Evil to Good and their Hearts become broken with a sence of his Goodness therein when meer Dreams and Fancies will not fright them to Heaven nor truly reduce them from any Sin or Evil. * Note 2 Cor. 5.
serve the Lord your God that the Fierceness of his Wrath may turn away from you 2 Chro. 30. 6 8. The King did not conclude that the Curses pronounced before in Deut. 27. against Offenders did obliege God to perpetual Revenge or not to turn away his fierce Wrath if the People turned from their Iniquities And said the Lord unto his Church that was to be gathered of the Gentiles In a little Wrath I hid my Face from thee for a Moment but with Everlasting Loving Kindness will I have Mercy on thee saith the Lord thy Redeemer Isa. 54. 8. And concerning Israel whose Heart was not right with God neither were they stedfast in his Covenant 't is written But he being full of Compassion forgave their Iniquity and destroyed them not Yea many a time turned he his Anger away and did not stir up all his Wrath for he remembred that they were but Flesh c. Psal. 78. 37 38. Yea in the midst of Judgment and in Wrath he hath remembred Mercy Righteousness and Equity are the Stablishment of his Throne Mercy and Truth go before his Face Psal. 89. 14. See how well consistent his Mercy and Truth are also Psal. 57. 3. and 61. 7. and 98. 3. and 103. 8. and 115. 1. and 119. 64. and 130. 7. Dan. 9. 4. Therefore neither his Justice Law nor Truth could intend or be any Limitation or Tye to his Power or Soveraignity not to turn away his Wrath or shew Mercy to them that turn away from Evil and Mercy rejoyceth against Judgment or Condemnation Jam. 2. 13. His Truth is so far from stopping the Mouth of Mercy yea 't is most evident to the spiritual Travellers that though God hide his Face and send forth his Terrors because of Mens Iniquities and Sins he hath Power to turn away his Wrath extend Pardon and shew the Light of his Countenance as he really doth when Men turn from Iniquity and depart from Evil and with broken Hearts submit themselves to his Power who keepeth Covenant and Mercy toward them that love him and them that keep his Commandments Dan. 9. And for any to deny him this Power and Soveraignity in himself to shew Mercy and Forgiveness is 1st To deny the true God to be God 2dly To deny his Love and Goodness 3dly To deny his Omnipotency Infiniteness and Perfection 4thly To render God less gracious and kind then his Son 5thly To debase God's Power Glory and Soveraignity below the Prerogative of Earthly Princes which is best shewn in mitigating rather then in exacting the Rigor of Laws in Acts of Pardon or Grace rather then the Severity of Revenge upon the Subjects 6thly To conclude That God cannot forgive Sin or Debt but must have full Payment or use the utmost Revenge or Rigor for Satisfaction whether on the Debtor or Surety is contrary to Christ's Similitude of the Kingdom of Heaven as likened unto a King that had Compassion on his Servant when he 〈◊〉 down and worshipped him and forgave him all his Debt o●… ten thousand Talents and blasphemously renders God like the same Servant in his Want of Patience towards his fellow Servant taking him by the Throat and casting him into Prison for his hundred Pence so that the Lord was wrath with this unmerciful Servant and delivered him to the Tormentors c. See Mat. 18. 7thly To represent God thus Cruel and Revengeful either to Man or to Christ in his stead as that he cannot otherwise pardon Sins past before Conviction without such a rigid Satisfaction or Payment is to deny him to be a Just God and a Saviour when besides him there is no Saviour or as if to be a Saviour were inconsistent with his being a just God contrary to his own plain Testimony See Isa. 45. 14 15. Chap. 43. 10 11 12. and 49. 26. and 63. 8. Jer. 14. 8. Hos. 13. 4. 1. Tim. 1. 1. Chap. 4. 10. Tit. 3 4 5. Jud. 25. And thus saith the Lord God unto the Seed of Jacob I even I am the Lord and beside me there is no Saviour I even I am he that blotteth out thy Transgressions for MINE OWN'SAKE and will not remember thy Sins Now our Opposer having justified the Wicked and rendred God cruel we must now take a View of his condemning the Just One for whose Dig●…ity I thus appear on the behalf of God and the Son of his Love The Man having taken Pains to justifie such as have nothing but Matter of Condemnation in them Let us now take notice what Honour he hath ascribed unto the Son of God and what Entertainment he allows him while to justifie the condemnable he condemns him as with Wrath Vergeance which some call Justice vindictive whereby he reckons the Sins of the World were punisht in 〈◊〉 He alledgeth Rom. 8. 32. He that spared not his own Son but delivered him up for us all What made God's Just●…ce lay on so Did Christ ever by Sin provoke to this Will God punish where there is no Sin This is an ocular Demonstration Rep. God spared not his own Son from what he was to do and suffer but delivered him up for us all yet not to his own Revenge or burning Wrath incurred by Sin but to be a Sacrifice for Sinners It could not be that Christ should be the Subject of the Wrath that is due to Sin he being the Mediator between God and Man that had sinned No more could the Act of those wicked Hands Murtherers that crucified him be counted an Act of Gods Justice laying on so as fully punishing the Sin of the World in the Son of his Love for this is contrary to his Mediatorship and to his being a Sacrifice of a sweet smelling Savour to God both for a Pacification and putting away Sin It behoves a Mediator and Advocate to be a Man of Interest and Favour with the King and not an Object of his Hatred else he could not prevail for others if himself were so out of Favour S. S. The Faith of a Believer that is justified can here see Justice punishing his Transgression and that he is not justified without full Satisfaction to Justice God hath punished then the Sins of all that are justified in Jesus Christ. Rep. See here how the Man hath condemned the Just that never sinned unto the Punishment due to Sin See how he has thundred it out against Jesus Christ the burning Wrath and Hell-Fire incurred by Sinners must now be Christ's Punishment Oh wonderful Justice there was never such divine Justice known or heard of from just Men or justified Persons How God ever could be thus angry with his ever Beloved Innocent Son whom he both freely gave and upheld in his Love through all his Sufferings for God was in Christ reconciling the World to himself bearing forbearing and as sympathizing with him in Spirit in his Sufferings wherein Christ as Man was accepted a most acceptable Sacrifice howbeit his bearing the Sin of many