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A90832 The vindication of Christ and his ordinances from the corrupt and false glosses made thereon by the subtil and deceivers of these times. By Christopher Pooly, minister of the word at great Missingham, in Norfolk. Pooly, Christopher, 1575 or 6-1653. 1652 (1652) Wing P2860; Thomason E682_1; ESTC R206797 181,996 208

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from thee and deliver thee from evil upon thee that there is much good and vertue in thine or their prayers thou makest an Idol of prayer Mark this well When the Israelites had fiery Serpents among them which stung many to death God by Moses set up a Brazen Num. 21. 8 9. Serpent to figure Christ that whosoever was stung he commanded to look upon the Brazen Serpent set up and he should be healed and as many as looked upon it after Gods command and according to Gods Ordinance were healed But afterward the people made it an Idol burnt incense to it accounting the goodness and vertue whereby they healed to be in the Serpent of Brass not in Jesus Christ which it figured therefore the servant and Instrument of God King Hezekiah 2 Kin. 18. 4. 1 Cor. 15. 56. brake it in pieces This fiery Serpent is among us it doth sting all with sinne unto death The sting of sin is death saith the Apostle Jesus Christ hath set up Prayer in the room of the Brazen Serpent to his church and people to be a figure and representation of himself unto them that if we his people will return unto prayer according to his Ordinance and look upon him represented in prayer as he hath commanded then we shall all of us be sure to be healed as all were healed that were stung by the fiery Serpent of the Israelites But if we fall to esteem vertue goodness power and strength in our prayers to do us the good to be able to move God and to prevail with God to do us the good we make an Idol of our Praver and we and our prayers shall perish I know there are many in these modern times professing Christianity and having sundry names for their different waies as Papists Arminians Anabaptists Brownists Presbyterians Independents and others and all zealous of the commandements of our God and the duties thereof especially they of those sorts which for the manifestation of their zeal and increase of Proselites make many private meetings and Conventicles for prayer and performances of other duties commanded to edification of men in their wayes whereby they think they please God pacifie God move God and prevail with God to do them good But alas in all these they rob Christ of his honour and make an Idol of their Prayers and performances for that they give the honour that is onely Christs to please God to pacifie God to move God to prevail with God to do men good unto their own performances which in truth are corrupt and sinful and therefore cannot please God Object But these will say We do all that we do to the honour and service of God Answ The greatest Idolaters have ever said so and no question had intention thereto we cannot think but that the Israelites that made and worshipped the golden Calf did say they did it to Gods honour and service and intended it so and they that did bow the knee to Baal did it and intended it to Gods honour and service And the Papists that bow to the image of Christ say they do it and intend it to the honour and service of Christ and yet the same is idolatry So these may do and intend all their Prayers and performances to the honour and service of God and yet that they do be idolatry whilest they give that honour to their own Prayers and performances which is onely Christs It seemeth that the Apostle Paul did finde many of the Israelites in the like zealous condition touching the commandement of God as these profess themselves to be unto whom he wrote in these words 〈◊〉 bear you record you have a zeal of God but not according Rom. 10. 2 3. 4. to knowledge for you bring ignorant of the righteousness of God and going about to establish your own righteousness have not submitted your selves to the righteousness of God for Christ is the end of the Law for righteousness to every one that believeth There are three things marked by the Apostle in those Israelites answering to these zelotes 1. They were zealous of God his honour and service so are these 2. They were so zealous in ignorance because they were ignorant of the righteousness of God meaning in Christ and would not submit unto that which is all righteousness that is in Gods sight righteousness to please God to pacifie God to move God to do men good so are these 3. They would establish their own righteousness the righteousness of their own performances to have power to please and pacifie God to move God and prevail with God to do them good which must needs be understood by establishing their own righteousness for nothing can please and pacifie God move and Rom. 10. 4 prevail with God but true righteousness which Christ faith the Apostle is the only performer and finisher of to those that believe Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth In this glass such as go about to please God by their performances 1 Iob. 5. 21 may see their idolatrous faces clearly Babes saith the Apostle keep your selves from Idols Quest. But these will say Wherefore doth God command men to do the duties of his commands if the doing of the duties do not please and pacifie God and move him to do them good Answ For resolution therein look back to that which hath been said before of the benefits of Gods commandements to men Quest. Have not true Believers care and zeal to do the duties of Gods commandements Answ Yes that they have in all humbleness and reverence for the care zeal and devotion of the duties of all godliness is wrought up in them by the Spirit of Christ which they as branches of the Vine Christ abiding and alive in him do bear and hold forth and they are not so wrought up in them to bear and hold them forth that they should thereby please and pacifie God or prevail with God to do them good ut to manifest evidence and witness to them that God is pleased with them and pacified towards them in Christ whose fruits they are that they bear and hold forth And that Christs performances in himself have prevailed and will ever prevail with God to do them good that all shall work together for the best unto them and herein is the joy and the rest of true Believers Indeed I hear there are some because they hear there is no goodness in their Prayers and duties performing to please God no promise to prevail with God to do them goed therefore they give over prayer c. I wish these would observe if any of the Israelites stung with the fiery Serpent did not return to the Brazen Serpent the figure of Christ to look upon it they were sure to die Even so they which refuse to return unto Prayer the figure and representation of Christs Spirit in man which Christ hath set up for a figure and represent on
of the same being stung with sin the sting whereof is death they are sure to die Must thou needs make an Idol of thy prayers and duties or else thou wilt not nor must not pray Thou shalt find it true If thou dost not deny thy self to be good to have goodness as here Christ commandeth thou makest an idol of thy self and if thou dost hold thy prayer to have any vertue or power to please God to move God to do thee good thou makest an idol of thy prayer giving that honour to it which is onely Christs to whom all power is given Quest But some will ask if prayer move not and prevail not with God by the strength it hath to the forgiveness of sin and to the healing diseases in men why doth the Apostle say If any man be sick among you let him send for the Elders of the church and let them pray for him c. and the prayer of Faith shall save the sick and the Lord shall raise him up and of he have committed sin it shall be forgiven him and further The prayer of a Righteous man availeth much if it be fervent Answ The Gospel is a mistery Faith is a mistery and Christ is a mistery as the Apostle saith which mystery is hid to those which are lost be they never so wise and learned otherwise And in these words is this mystery as in many other of holy Scripture The Apostle doth not say that the Elders or the prayers of the Elders shall save the sick and raise them up or procure forgiveness of sins or avail much with God but he saith the prayer of Faith shall save the sick the Lord shall raise him up the sin committed shall be forgiven him it is the prayer of Faith that availeth there is the mystery Now we are to observe that both Prayer and Faith are fruits of the Spirit and the fruits of the Spirit are wrought up into the branches from Christ the Vine as the fruits of the vine are wrought up to the branches that bear them by the spirits of the vine The Representation is Christ where he saith I am the Vine ye are the branches Ioh. 15. 5. The fruits of the vine wrought up by the spirits of the vine to the branches which bear them are not to do any thing to or for the branches but to shew and manifest that those branches that bear them are abiding alive in the vine that they are living branches of the vine and those branches have those fruits and all conveighed to them from the vine by the spirits thereof that they are all of the vine So then Faith and Prayer being fruits of the Vine Christ conveighed by the spirit of Christ to the Elders of the church the branches of Christ do not nor can do any thing to them or for them that bear them but onely manifest evidence and witness to them that they are in Christ that they have all good for them from Christ his undertaking and performance that they are all from Christ as his instruments it is none of the Elders power vertue or godliness whereby the sick is healed saved sin is forgiven as Peter said It is not of our power or godliness that this lame Act. 3. 12. man is healed Neither must these say so except they will make themselves Gods for there is none that can forgive sinnes but Mar. 2. 7. God onely none heal and save but Christ onely there is no salvation in any other saith Luke Act. 4 12. It is meant then that prayer doth onely manifest and witness the saving healing and forgiveness of sin from Christ and his performances not that Prayer Faith or any godliness of man doth it The Brazen Serpent did shew and witnesse their healing from Christ represented by it but it did not heal them by any vertue or strength in it The Image or stamp of Caesars coyn made it go for payment it was not the metal or matter it self that made it payment So it is the spirit of Christ in Prayer that makes it Prayer and not mans prayer it self Vse 5. In that Christ holdeth forth this command to men that follow him to deny themselves as also other commands which he knoweth no man can do before God and man himself knoweth it as Adam knew himself naked and made himself aprons of Gen. 3. 7. Fig-leaves to cover because he would not see his own nakednesse but could not remedy it And for that as hath been said Christ holdeth forth his commands that poor naked man which would cover his nakedness with Fig-leaves of his own holiness and righteousness might see it more clearly Vse Humiliation Hence all Believers are ledto humiliation when they hear the Law and commandement preached to look well upon their wants weakness blindness misery and poverty held forth therein to hang down their heads smite their breasts crying Lord be merciful to me a sinner as the publican did in the Temple where the Law was preached yea the holding forth of the Luk. 18. 1● Law the justice and judgements of God in the Law will make a stout heart to tremble Felix was a great and stout man yet when he heard Paul dispute of justice and judgement to come he Act. 24. 26. trembled Vse 6. For that the holding forth of the Law and commandement sheweth to Believers what Christ hath done for them in himself in performing of the righteousness thereof and in their deliverance from the curse and penalty thereof to the full satisfaction of God And that the performances of Jesus Christ in them by his Spirit sent unto them in the fruits thereof borne and held forth of them as branches of the Vine Jesus Christ do manifest evidence and witness the same to their souls fully done of Christ in himself for their justification and salvation Vse Comfort Thanks and Love From hence ariseth the first unspeakable comfort to Believers to see the righteousness of so good just and holy a Law and commandement performed for them whereunto they were bound upon inevitable pain and which they themselves were not able to do in the least and themselves to have all the good and benefit thereof and to see the curses dangers miseries and penalties they are delivered and freed from all closed in the commandement and before them opened and the same witnessed and sealed unto them by the spirit in the fruits there of wrought up in them Suppose a man hath taken a great house to build and is bound straitly for the performance thereof and is assuredly to have a thousand pound if he build it to be paid when it is finished But this man is by his failings grown so much indebted that he is not able to do any thing of the building his Creditors come so fast upon him If a friend shall build this house for him and pay all his debts also would not this be a great comfort to him Yea sure he
immortality then shall be brought to passe the 1 Cor. 15. 14. saying that is written death is swollowed up into victory death remaineth in themselves by their sin and their life in Christ by Christs righteousnesse If Believers had inherent power of righteous action to bring forth of themselves and from their inherent power actions of righteousness as Adam had the power to do them then the Prophet I say would not have said of himself and the best men We are all as an unclean thing all our righteousnesse is as filthy rags Isa 64. 6. and David would not have said There is none that doth good no not one and Paul would not have said in Psa 14. 〈◊〉 ● Rom. 7. 18. me that is my flesh dwelleth no good thing and again I find no means to perform that which is good Were not that Antichristian pride in any man now to say of himselfe I have power by my inherent holinesse to do that which is good and righteous in the sight and estimation of God the proudest Pharisee said to deny our selves is to deny our holinesse and goodnesse in our selves Quest Is there no operation of the Spirit of Christ in Believers upon the corrupted man soul and body is there no mortification of sin and corruption and no sanctification of the man by the Spirit or to the man in soule or body Answ Yes that must needs be so There are foure excellent creatures manifest in this world which all in the Scriptures are held forth to resemble Christ and the holy Spirit in their operations upon the bodies neere and object to them which foure creatures are the Sun Fire Water and sweet odours The Sun of this world is held forth in the Scripture to resemble the Son of righteousnesse Jesus Christ in his operations and actions to Believers Unto you that feare my Malach. 4. 2. name the Sonne of righteousnesse shall arise and health shall be under his wings He saith the Prophecy alluding to the rising of the Sun of the world upon the earth and the body therein in mens appearance and apprehension to the comfort and refreshing of them for being as the Sun of the world to Jesus Christ ariseth and manifesteth himselfe to Believers when and as he pleaseth in their apprehensions to the comfort and refreshing of the whole man And as the Sun of the world arising doth heat the colds object bodies so that the heat thereof heateth the cold bodies neere them by reflection yea and melteth some hard bodies by the heat thereof and yet the naturall coldnesse of those bodies and the hardnesse remaine still in them naturally as appear in the stay of the heat to those bodies So the Sonne of righteousnesse arising in Believers doe heat the neere corrupted man in soule and in body with his holy heat which heat also sometimes reflecteth to others neer yea and melteth the hard corrupt heart and yet the coldnesse and hardnesse of corruption naturally remaine still and returneth in sense and appearance in the stay of the heat of the Son of righteousnesse Jesus Christ by his Spirit And farther as the Sun of the world arising doth in season and time quicken some bodies dead in themselves such as have life in their root which in their time appeare also to have life in themselves So the Sonne of righteousnesse Jesus Christ arising in Believers though the corrupted man the body be dead because of sin as the Apostle speaketh though they be dead in themselves as Colos 3. 3. yet because their life is hid with and in Christ their root because they are rooted in Christ as Colos 2. In the appointed due time Colos 3. 3 of God their hidden life in Christ will be manifest in themselves which shall be to the soule when the corruptible hath put on incorruption and to the body when the mortall hath put on immortality and death be swallowed up in victory as the Apostle speaketh And so the Prophet David said God is a Sun and a shield alluding to Jesus Christ which is the only shield Psa 84. 11 and defence of Believers And so is Jesus Christ and his Spirit in Believers in the Scripture resembled to the fire of this world in respect of the operation thereof upon the bodies neere The Lord wil be as a wall of fire about Jerusalem saith the Prophet A wall of fire will defend and keep safe any City from hurt of adversary and enemies So Jesus Christ is a wall of fire to save his Elect Believers from the divell hell sinne the law and death that they shall not hurt them The gates of hell shall not prevaile against them Mat. 16. 18 saith Christ that they may say with Paul O death where is thy sting O grave or hell where is thy victory The sting 1 Cor. 15. 55 56 57. of death is sinne the strength of sinne is the Law But thanks be unto God that hath given us victory through our Lord Iesus Christ which hath beene a wall of fire unto us from these our adversarie And further Jesus Christ and his holy Spirit in Believers is in the Scriptures resembled to fire in the operations thereof because as fire melteth purifieth things so Jesus Christ by his Spirit and the word of his Spirit melteth the hearts of the Believers as Iosias heart melted at the hearing of Gods word 2 Kings 22. 19. and also purifieth their corrupt hearts as Peter saith God gave the Holy Ghost to the Gentiles which purified their hearts by faith or believing And for this it is said Christ will Act. 15. 9 baptize with the Holy Ghost and with fire and Gods word is as fire Ierem. 23. 29. Yet it is to be observed that although gold or other metall be melted by the fire the hardnesse thereof returneth and remaineth naturally in and to the same as is seen in the stay of the heat of the fire So though Christ by his Spirit and spiritual word melteth the corrupt hard heart of believers yet the corrupt hardnesse remaineth still naturally and returneth in the stay of the operation of the Spirit And as although the fire purifieth the gold yet the gold must be after melted and purified by the sire as the Prophet saith seven times that is oftentimes before it be pure gold Psa 12. 6. and is not pure gold so long as any drosse remains in it in any part thereof but still drossie gold So although Jesus Christ by his Spirit often melteth and purifieth the corrupt heart of believers yet so long as corruption remaineth which remaining remaineth in every part of soul and body so that no part is pure and holy before God in man himself whatsoever it be in mans estimation but still corrupt in the whole and so shall be till corruptible hath put on incorruption and mortall hath put on immortality And Jesus Christ and his Spirit in Believers are in the Scriptures resembled to water for
of their Repentance for the quitting of their sinne and for their righteousnesse thereby before the Mediator the Man Jesus Christ and before all men And upon this great grace considered It was that the same Father in the Church of Christ saith Our righteousnesse is more in Repentance and Forgivenesse of Sinne then in righteousnesse of deeds and performances Although our worke of the Law and Command bee no righteousnesse before God yet our Worke of the command and our Repentance of the fayling our mercy and forgivenesse is righteousnesse before Men This is Christs Law to Men for the order and Government of his Church upon Earth And this is worke enough for Gods people for righteousnesse before Men to the good and profit of men although they presume not to build up unto Heaven unto God in Heaven which is onely Christs Worke as David said my Goodnesse and Wel-doing Psal 16. 2 3 extendeth not to thee O Lord but to the Saints that are upon the Earth Quest How are repenting Believers upon their repentancy unto satisfaction before Men acquitted from their sinne and transgression of the Law and the penalty thereof before Men when as Sorrow Confession Amendment and Proportionable satisfaction for the Transgression is as much as the Law requireth in the penalty Answ As Repentance before men hath place in the Law of Christ So saith Forgivenesse and Mercy before Men place in the Law of Christ If thy Brother Trespasse against thee and if hee repent forgive him and though hee sinne against thee seaven times in a Day and seaven times in a Day Mat. 17. 3 4. turne againe to thee saying It repenteth mee Thou shalt forgive him And so saith the Law of Christ Hee that confesseth and forsaketh his Sinne shall have Mercy And to whom belongeth Prov. 28. 13. this Forgivenesse and Mercy certainely to the penitent Believers as Christ saith If hee repent forgive him hee that confesseth and forsaketh his Sinne shall have Mercy yea and CHRIST saith further Forgive and it shall bee forgiven you Luke 6. 37. If you doe forgive Men their Trespasses your Heavenly Father will also forgive you And if you forgive not Men no more Mat. 6. 14 15. will your Heavenly Father forgive you And againe Judgement Jam 3. 13. mercilesse shall bee to him that sheweth no Mercy and Mercy rejoyceth against Judgement And if hee that sorroweth godly for his Sinne before Men confesseth ingenuously amendeth righteously and bee willing to satisfie before Men for the Trespasse before Men hath Mercy and Forgivenesse before Men of his Transgression before Men Is not this a sufficient acquittance unto the repenting Believer of his sinne and the penalty thereof before men And againe the Law of Christ bindeth as much to Mercy and Forgivenesse to the penitent before Men As it doth to the penalty of Transgressors thereof and to Repentance before Men. Againe the true penitent Offender is acquitted from the Transgression before Men and the penalty thereof by his true Repentance although hee by hard-hearted and mercilesse Men bee holden to the extreame penalty of the Law for his Transgression contrary to Christs Law of Mercy and Forgivenesse For that hee suffereth hee suffereth willingly and rejoyceth in his Tribulation as the Apostle speaketh now hee that suffereth willingly and rejoyceth in his sufferi●g by the comforts of the holy Spirit in him hath not the paine of him that Suffereth unwillingly and forced to suffer for the comforts and joy that hee hath of the Spirit of Christ doth slake quench and take away the Sting of the paine That hee may say O Death where is thy Sting as the Apostle saith of such through which comforts and joy of the Holy Ghost many that have suffered Death in the Lord have dyed rejoycing in the Lord and in appearance to Men without paine Whereby they have manifested themselves acquitted of their transgression and the penalty of the Law in the paine And the Repentance of Believers wrought up in them by Christ doth not onely acquit them of the Sinne and the penalty of the Law before Men But it also testifieth to their owne Soules and to other Men also that they are living Branches in the Vine Christ Jesus For saith Christ The Branch cannot beare Fruit of it selfe except it abide in Joh. 15. 4 the Vine No more can yee except yee abide in Mee No Man can repent except hee be a living Branch abiding in Christ and Christ in him Hypocrites may counterfet Repentance and not repent truly And hee that liveth in Christ and Christ in him by his Spirit hath the witnesse of his Adoption that hee is one of Gods children through Christ and so quitted of all Sinne not onely before Men but also by the performance of Jesus Christ of all Sinne before God So the Apostle saith Wee Joh. 8. 15. 16. have received the Spirit of Adoption And the same Spirit witnesseth with our spirits that wee are children of God So that although Repentance acquitteth not of sinne before God as it doth before Men yet it by the Spirit of Christ whereby it is wrought up in Believers witnesseth acquitance before God to the Soules of the penitent yea and holdeth forth great hope and manifestation to others that the same penitent Man is the child of God and is quitted of his sinne before God And even so it is of Obedience Mercy and Forgivenesse wrought up by the Spirit of Christ they also witnesse evidence and testifie the same Quest The Apostle saith of Believers The Body is dead Rom. 8. 10 because of Sinne And Paul saith of himselfe I am carnall sold under Sinne I finde no meanes to performe that which is Rom. 7. 14. Verse 18 Psal 14. Isa 64. 6 good And David saith There is none that doth good no not one And the Prophet I say said of himselfe and other like himselfe All our righteousnes is filthinesse I will bee their God and they shall bee my people I will never forsake them and I will put such a feare into their hearts that they shall never depart from me Jer. 32. 40. Can therefore Believers doe the Commandements of the Law of Christ in singlenesse of Heart before Men and before Christ the Governour of his Church which knoweth all as R●penting Forgiving Loving Obeying Praying Praysing Thanksgiving and the rest how it is faithfully done Answ By the same power they did and doe believe in singlenesse of Heart They can and may Repent Forgive Love Obey Pray Praise and give Thankes and the rest in singlenesse of Heart But indeed corrupt and carnall dead Men in Sinne cannot doe these or any of these or the like in singlenesse of Heart whose Heart is corrupt carnall and dead in Sinne sold under Sinne as Paul was as hee saith in his best Estate Indeed Man can Believe Repent Obey Love Pray Praise and give Thankes Carnally and Fainedly by the power of corrupt nature As the
Phi. 6. 7 8. found in shape as a man humbled himself and became obedient to the death even to the death of the Crosse and all this done of Christ imputed to them and made theirs of grace and witnessed by the work of the Spirit in them this hard commandement to corrupt man becometh now a Gospell to the Believers Indeed this and other the commandements are commonly taken and held forth to Gods people under grace in the form of the Law of works as it was held forth to Adam in innocency when he had power and freewill to do where the command and the condition was keep this do this and live eternally break this and die eternally as if men had now power and free will to doe the command as Adam had before he lost for himself and all And some held forth the commandement thus only the curse and commination thereof to be taken away to Gods chosen people by Christ but that they are still bounp to do the command to indeavour rnd do something thereof themselves before God that the commandements remain stil as a rule for them to follow in Gods sight to please God to enjoy life to come to the Father without which themselves indeavouring and doing they cannot come to the Father in heaven But I take it they might more truly say by such indeavouring and doing the command themselves no man shall or can come to the Father in heaven For mark good people of God what Christ saith I am the way the truth and the life no man cometh to the Father but by me I am the door no man entreth to the Father but by me and he that Joh. 14 6. Joh. 10. 19. Joh. 10. 9. climbeth up another way is a thief and a robber Christ is the onely way that the Father hath graciously made for all his chosen ones to come to him by Jesus Christ is his beloved Son in whom the Father is only pleased This is the honor that the Father hath given him for his undertaking work and performance for poor lost man to Gods satisfaction and man salvation If any man therefore holdeth himself forth to please God to climbe up to the Father by his own indeavours devotions and performances he robbeth Christ of his honor of the honor only due to him and therefore saith Christ he is a thiefe and a robber If a King should for speciall love and service done to him give to his son that honor that no man should come to him into his presence but by this his Son And if any man should be so bold as to indeavour another way to come to the King both the King and his Son must needs think it a great affront and wrong and dishonor done to them But poor proud man do what thou canst of the commandement to please God to make thy way to come to the Father yet thou canst not do so much as the Pharisees Herod Judas and Demas did which although they were much in mens estimation yet they are accounted in the Scriptures to be but Thieves Robbers APPLICATION THat where the Spirit of Christ is it worketh up consideration of these things and therefore David saith O consider this Use 〈◊〉 you that forget God least he pluck you away and tear you in pieces Psa 50. 22. and there be none to deliver you Where the consideration of these things is not there is the evidence of Gods wrath that he will tear them in pieces and there shall be none to deliver them where meat is not chewed there is little nourishment and where the Word of God is not considered there is little edification The gold of the Sanctuary was all weighed the Bereans searched Act. 17. 13. whether those things preached were so or no to their commendation But where the things of God passe away as they come without consideration it is a token and evidence that the Spirit of Christ is not there that they are not the children of God but the children of Wrath. Use 2. Reproveth all mens Pharisaical pride and boasting of their own goodness honesty holiness and righteousness one saith I am good honest just a Saint another saith I am better then thou and another saith I am not as other men are whenas all are naught as an unclean thing before God in themselves The more any man boasteth and seeketh the praise of men the worse he is before God and therefore Christ saith Woe be to you when all men speak well of you Vse 3. Reproveth the high conceipt of inherent holiness and righteousness in man by the sanctification of the Spirit whereby Luct 16 15 he can do and d●th the works of holiness and righteousness before God as the Agent thereof as they hold And it reproveth all Popes holiness to be Saints in themselves and to be able to sanctifie other persons and things by their inherent holiness when as it is clear if any men have had or have any holiness and righteousness in themselves their souls or bodies then no doubt but David Esay Paul had the same as manifest as any other But it is shewed before that they all deny the same they deny themselves to be holy good righteous or to have had any such goodness inherent in themselves or to have themselves done any works of goodnes holines or righteousnes before God They have acknowledged themselves to be unclean carnal corrupt not any good thing dwelling in themselves their inherent holiness and Phil. 3. 8. righteousness in themselves to be nothing but filthiness loss and dung before God that they found no means to do the thing that is good before God Use 4. Reproveth the idolatrous opinion of many that think and affirm that their prayers and the prayers of esteemed righteous men have power to move God and prevail with God to do them good to forgive them their sins to keep and turn evils from them and to deliver them from evils upon them that there is much good and vertue in mens prayers and this they think they have sure ground of Scripture for for say they Object J●sus taught his Disciples to pray for all these things in that which they call the Lords Prayer Christ commandeth to pray and promiseth to give to them that ask and pray and his Thes 5. 17. Apostles command the churches to whom they wrote to pray continually and say The prayer of the faithful availeth much and ●am 5. 16. to make Gods promises good unto prayer the Scripture saith Moses prayed and the Israelites overcame the Amalekites in the Battel Eliah prayed and God sent rain Iam. 5. 18 Answ All these set forth in the Scriptures are true and good But yet if thou thinkest and affirmest that thine own prayers and the prayers of other men have power and strength to move God to prevail with God to do thee or them good to forgive thy sins to keep thee from evil to turn evil