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but_o be_v soon_o extinguish_v walk_v say_v the_o prophet_n 50.11_o in_o the_o light_n of_o your_o fire_n and_o spark_n that_o you_o have_v kindle_v that_o be_v as_o the_o spark_n give_v but_o a_o dim_a light_n for_o a_o man_n to_o walk_v by_o he_o may_v stumble_v and_o grope_v about_o still_o for_o all_o that_o light_n even_o so_o no_o marvel_n if_o the_o papist_n do_v wander_v up_o and_o down_o in_o their_o imagination_n walk_v by_o the_o light_n and_o sparkle_n of_o their_o fantastical_a and_o mathematical_a fire_n of_o purgatory_n the_o three_o part_n whether_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_n or_o any_o other_o work_v of_o they_o do_v profit_v the_o dead_a the_o papist_n 15._o their_o opinion_n be_v that_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_a be_v neither_o available_a for_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n for_o they_o need_v they_o not_o not_o for_o the_o damn_a in_o hell_n for_o they_o can_v be_v help_v but_o only_o for_o the_o soul_n torment_v in_o purgatory_n who_o do_v find_v great_a 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thus_o isti_fw-la significati_fw-la sunt_fw-la ad_fw-la timotheum_n etc._n etc._n these_o of_o who_o the_o apostle_n speak_v be_v signify_v in_o another_o place_n to_o timoth._n 2.2.19_o the_o foundation_n of_o god_n remain_v sure_a the_o lord_n know_v who_o be_v he_o 7._o ergo_fw-la this_o assurance_n and_o confidence_n be_v common_a though_o not_o in_o the_o like_a measure_n to_o all_o faithful_a christian_n augustine_n also_o say_v quia_fw-la non_fw-la secundum_fw-la merita_fw-la nostra_fw-la sed_fw-la illius_fw-la misericordiam_fw-la firma_fw-la est_fw-la promissio_fw-la nemo_fw-la debet_fw-la cum_fw-la trepidatione_fw-la praedicare_fw-la unde_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la dubitare_fw-la because_o the_o promise_n remain_v steadfast_a not_o by_o our_o work_n but_o his_o mercy_n we_o must_v not_o with_o tremble_v and_o fearfulness_n pronounce_v that_o whereof_o we_o can_v doubt_v no_o marvel_n then_o if_o papist_n doubt_v of_o their_o salvation_n because_o their_o confidence_n be_v build_v upon_o their_o work_n but_o if_o they_o will_v with_o the_o faithful_a of_o god_n renounce_v their_o own_o work_n and_o be_v content_a to_o submit_v themselves_o to_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n they_o will_v not_o think_v it_o so_o strange_a a_o thing_n for_o christian_n to_o have_v a_o full_a and_o steadfast_a persuasion_n of_o their_o salvation_n the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o benefit_n of_o our_o vocation_n to_o the_o which_o belong_v the_o knowledge_n of_o sin_n and_o the_o law_n the_o first_o question_n of_o sin_n the_o part_n of_o this_o question_n be_v these_o first_o of_o original_a sin_n second_o of_o the_o difference_n of_o sin_n three_o of_o venial_a sin_n four_o whether_o all_o sin_n be_v remissible_a fift_o whether_o god_n be_v the_o author_n of_o sin_n sixth_o whether_o the_o work_n of_o the_o not_o regenerate_v be_v sin_n the_o first_o part_n of_o original_a sin_n the_o papist_n error_n 59_o concupiscence_n which_o we_o also_o call_v original_a sin_n remain_v after_o baptism_n be_v not_o proper_o a_o sin_n nor_o forbid_v by_o commandment_n till_o it_o reign_v in_o we_o and_o we_o obey_v the_o desire_n thereof_o it_o be_v call_v sin_n because_o it_o be_v the_o matter_n effect_n and_o occasion_n of_o sin_n rhemist_n rom._n 6._o sect_n 6._o council_n trident._n sess_v 5._o argum._n jam._n 1.15_o concupiscence_n when_o it_o have_v conceive_v bring_v forth_o sin_n ergo_fw-la it_o be_v not_o sin_n of_o itself_o but_o when_o the_o consent_n of_o will_n come_v sin_n be_v engender_v rhemist_n the_o protestant_n ans._n the_o argument_n follow_v not_o concupiscence_n bring_v forth_o sin_n ergo_fw-la it_o be_v no_o sin_n nay_o it_o shall_v the_o rather_o be_v sin_n as_o one_o serpent_n bring_v forth_o another_o so_o both_o the_o mother_n and_o daughter_n be_v sin_n for_o evil_a fruit_n do_v show_v a_o evil_a tree_n argum._n saint_n paul_n say_v that_o concupiscence_n be_v flat_o forbid_v by_o the_o law_n which_o say_v thou_o shall_v not_o lust_n rom._n 7.7_o and_o vers_fw-la 17._o he_o call_v it_o sin_n dwell_v in_o we_o though_o it_o do_v not_o reign_v in_o we_o ergo_fw-la it_o be_v proper_o sin_n augustine_n say_v omnium_fw-la malorum_fw-la reatu_fw-la caret_fw-la qui_fw-la baptizatur_fw-la non_fw-la omnibus_fw-la malis_fw-la he_o that_o be_v baptize_v be_v clear_v from_o the_o guilt_n of_o all_o evil_n or_o sin_n but_o not_o from_o the_o evil_n themselves_o dimittuntur_fw-la in_o baptismo_fw-la omne_fw-la peccata_fw-la &_o originaliter_fw-la tracta_fw-la &_o ignoranter_fw-la vel_fw-la scienter_fw-la adiecta_fw-la all_o sin_n be_v forgive_v in_o baptism_n both_o original_n and_o commit_v ignorant_o or_o witting_o therefore_o original_a sin_n be_v no_o otherways_o take_v away_o in_o baptism_n than_o other_o sin_n be_v but_o the_o guilt_n only_o of_o other_o sin_n be_v remit_v in_o baptism_n the_o blot_n or_o stain_n remain_v still_o ergo_fw-la original_a sin_n cease_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o guilt_n for_o neither_o it_o nor_o any_o other_o sin_n shall_v be_v impute_v unto_o those_o which_o be_v justify_v in_o christ_n but_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n still_o as_o the_o rest_n be_v augustine_n also_o dare_v call_v it_o a_o sin_n concupiscentia_fw-la peior_fw-la est_fw-la ignorantia_fw-la concupiscence_n be_v worse_a than_o ignorance_n 105_o and_o in_o another_o place_n ignorantia_fw-la in_o ijs_fw-la qui_fw-la intelligere_fw-la noluerunt_fw-la peccatum_fw-la est_fw-la in_fw-la ijs_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la potuerunt_fw-la poena_fw-la peccati_fw-la but_o ignorance_n be_v in_o they_o which_o be_v able_a to_o learn_v sin_n in_o those_o that_o can_v a_o punishment_n of_o sin_n if_o ignorance_n be_v sin_n concupiscence_n worse_o than_o ignorance_n be_v much_o more_o the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o difference_n of_o sin_n the_o papist_n some_o sin_n be_v deadly_a or_o mortal_a because_o all_o that_o do_v they_o be_v worthy_a of_o error_n 60_o damnation_n other_o be_v venial_a that_o be_v to_o say_v pardonable_a of_o their_o own_o nature_n rhemist_n rom._n 1.11_o argum._n sin_n when_o it_o be_v finish_v bring_v forth_o death_n jam._n 1.15_o ergo_fw-la not_o all_o sin_n but_o that_o which_o be_v consummate_v and_o perfect_v be_v mortal_a rhemist_n ibid._n the_o protestant_n ans._n out_o of_o this_o place_n it_o be_v gather_v that_o there_o be_v degree_n of_o sin_n and_o that_o the_o more_o heinous_a sin_n be_v worthy_a of_o more_o grievous_a death_n and_o condemnation_n but_o that_o concupiscence_n or_o other_o less_o sin_n deserve_v not_o death_n it_o be_v not_o hence_o prove_v see_v the_o scripture_n say_v that_o the_o wage_n of_o all_o sin_n be_v death_n rom._n 6.23_o argum._n that_o no_o sin_n be_v venial_a or_o pardonable_a of_o it_o own_o nature_n but_o that_o the_o least_o deserve_v death_n if_o god_n shall_v deal_v with_o we_o according_a to_o the_o exact_a rule_n of_o his_o justice_n it_o thus_o appear_v first_o if_o all_o sin_n be_v not_o mortal_a christ_n die_v not_o for_o all_o sin_n for_o he_o by_o his_o death_n do_v satisfy_v only_o for_o sin_n that_o deserve_a death_n but_o christ_n die_v for_o all_o sin_n john_n 1.19_o second_o all_o transgression_n of_o god_n law_n be_v sin_n and_o deserve_v the_o curse_n of_o god_n galath_n 3.10_o but_o all_o sin_n be_v the_o transgression_n of_o the_o law_n 1._o john_n 3.4_o augustine_n and_o other_o of_o the_o father_n do_v use_v this_o term_n of_o venial_a sin_n but_o not_o in_o their_o sense_n as_o though_o any_o sin_n in_o it_o own_o nature_n deserve_v pardon_v but_o by_o venial_a sin_n they_o understand_v the_o lesser_a and_o small_a fault_n which_o be_v more_o easy_o forgive_v at_o god_n hand_n than_o the_o great_a sunt_fw-la venialiae_fw-la peccata_fw-la there_o be_v certain_a venial_a sin_n without_o the_o which_o a_o man_n can_v live_v say_v augustine_n propter_fw-la omne_fw-la peccata_fw-la baptismus_fw-la inventus_fw-la est_fw-la propter_fw-la levia_fw-la oratio_fw-la dominica_fw-la for_o all_o sin_n baptism_n be_v a_o remedy_n and_o the_o lord_n prayer_n for_o the_o less_o de_fw-fr symbolo_fw-la lib._n 1.6_o by_o venial_a sin_n he_o understand_v the_o small_a sin_n which_o be_v not_o pardonable_a in_o their_o own_o nature_n for_o than_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o ask_v forgiveness_n for_o they_o in_o the_o lord_n prayer_n they_o will_v vanish_v away_o of_o themselves_o wherefore_o we_o can_v receive_v this_o popish_a distinction_n of_o venial_a and_o mortal_a sin_n as_o they_o understand_v it_o as_o the_o scripture_n use_v to_o speak_v we_o do_v not_o great_o mislike_v they_o that_o be_v by_o grace_n and_o mercy_n in_o christ_n all_o sin_n even_o the_o great_a be_v not_o only_o pardonable_a but_o pardon_v unto_o we_o isay_n 1.18_o but_o unto_o the_o wicked_a and_o impenitent_a every_o sin_n be_v mortal_a they_o shall_v even_o by_o their_o idle_a word_n be_v condemn_v matth._n 12.36.37_o the_o three_o part_n of_o those_o which_o they_o call_v venial_a sin_n the_o papist_n error_n 61_o 1._o sin_n be_v voluntary_a otherwise_o it_o be_v no_o sin_n and_o therefore_o the_o passion_n that_o be_v in_o man_n have_v not_o the_o consent_n of_o will_n be_v far_o from_o sin_n and_o be_v not_o impute_v to_o any_o man_n neither_o for_o they_o need_v he_o say_v unto_o god_n forgive_v we_o our_o sin_n rhemist_n rom._n 7._o sec._n 8.9_o the_o protestant_n sin_n do_v without_o consent_n of_o the_o inward_a man_n be_v never_o impute_v but_o this_o must_v be_v understand_v only_o of_o the_o regenerate_a in_o who_o there_o be_v a_o new_a man_n bear_v of_o the_o spirit_n argum._n that_o involuntarie_a lust_n which_o arise_v in_o the_o heart_n not_o have_v the_o consent_n of_o will_n be_v in_o their_o nature_n sin_n it_o be_v evident_a by_o saint_n paul_n word_n rom._n 7.20_o if_o i_o do_v that_o i_o will_v not_o then_o be_v it_o not_o i_o any_o long_o that_o do_v it_o but_o sin_n that_o dwell_v in_o i_o he_o call_v it_o sin_n though_o he_o consent_v not_o unto_o it_o
9.4_o or_o for_o the_o ease_n of_o our_o conscience_n to_o man_n also_o as_o to_o he_o who_o we_o have_v offend_v math._n 5.24_o or_o to_o any_o other_o faithful_a man_n the_o minister_n or_o some_o other_o that_o we_o may_v be_v holpen_v and_o comfort_v by_o our_o mutual_a prayer_n jam._n 5.16_o there_o be_v also_o two_o kind_n of_o public_a confession_n either_o of_o the_o whole_a congregation_n together_o nehem._n 9.3_o or_o of_o some_o one_o or_o more_o that_o make_v public_a confession_n of_o their_o sin_n for_o the_o satisfy_n of_o the_o congregation_n who_o they_o have_v offend_v which_o belong_v to_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n 2._o corinth_n 2.6_o but_o this_o particular_a confession_n of_o all_o sin_n yea_o of_o they_o that_o be_v secret_a and_o to_o none_o but_o the_o priest_n be_v a_o antichristian_a yoke_n and_o too_o heavy_a for_o christian_n to_o bear_v arg._n 1._o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o make_v confession_n at_o all_o unto_o man_n the_o prophet_n david_n confess_v only_o unto_o god_n against_o thou_o o_o lord_n only_o have_v i_o sin_v psal._n 51.4_o augustine_n also_o say_v quid_fw-la mihi_fw-la cum_fw-la hominibus_fw-la ut_fw-la audiant_fw-la confessiones_fw-la meas_fw-la quasi_fw-la ipsi_fw-la sanaturi_fw-la sint_fw-la languores_fw-la meos_fw-la what_o have_v man_n to_o do_v to_o hear_v my_o confession_n as_o though_o they_o be_v able_a to_o heal_v my_o sore_n confess_v lib._n 10.3_o argum._n 2._o if_o a_o man_n otherwise_o can_v find_v ease_n of_o conscience_n but_o will_v open_v his_o sin_n to_o man_n it_o be_v not_o always_o necessary_a he_o shall_v seek_v to_o the_o minister_n though_o it_o be_v most_o convenient_a if_o he_o be_v a_o fit_a man_n any_o other_o faithful_a godly_a man_n may_v serve_v for_o so_o the_o apostle_n bid_v we_o acknowledge_v our_o fault_n not_o to_o the_o priest_n but_o one_o to_o another_o jam._n 5.16_o whereupon_o augustine_n write_v peccata_fw-la nostra_fw-la debemus_fw-la non_fw-la solùm_fw-la deo_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la sanctis_fw-la &_o deum_fw-la timentibus_fw-la confiteri_fw-la we_o must_v confess_v our_o sin_n not_o only_o to_o god_n but_o to_o man_n also_o that_o fear_n god_n he_o say_v not_o sacerdotibus_fw-la only_o to_o the_o priest_n homil._n 12._o argum._n 3._o such_o a_o particular_a enumeration_n of_o sin_n be_v not_o necessary_a neither_o be_v it_o possible_a it_o suffice_v where_o our_o sin_n be_v keep_v from_o our_o sight_n to_o say_v with_o the_o prophet_n cleanse_v i_o from_o my_o secret_a sin_n psal._n 19.12_o augustine_n say_v quot_fw-la habes_fw-la in_o cord_n compunctiones_fw-la facinorum_fw-la tot_fw-la habe_fw-la illic_fw-la punctiones_fw-la confessionum_fw-la look_v how_o many_o sin_n do_v prick_v thy_o conscience_n so_o must_v thy_o confession_n be_v it_o be_v a_o uncomfortable_a doctrine_n to_o teach_v man_n to_o labour_n to_o remember_v all_o their_o sin_n and_o to_o make_v a_o particular_a catalogue_n of_o they_o they_o have_v work_n enough_o to_o be_v ease_v of_o those_o sin_n that_o lie_v heavy_a on_o the_o heart_n a_o appendix_n of_o other_o circumstance_n of_o auricular_a confession_n the_o papist_n 1._o this_o order_n and_o custom_n of_o confession_n they_o hold_v to_o be_v a_o divine_a ordinance_n error_n 14_o no_o humane_a tradition_n council_n try_v sess_v 14._o can_n 6.8_o the_o protestant_n they_o be_v never_o able_a to_o show_v that_o it_o have_v any_o divine_a institution_n but_o it_o be_v a_o mere_a devise_n and_o invention_n of_o man_n first_o we_o read_v that_o nectarius_n a_o good_a bishop_n of_o constantinople_n do_v abrogate_v this_o custom_n of_o confession_n upon_o this_o occasion_n which_o have_v before_o time_n be_v use_v in_o that_o church_n for_o it_o be_v find_v out_o that_o a_o certain_a woman_n of_o the_o city_n under_o this_o pretence_n of_o confession_n have_v unlawful_a company_n with_o the_o priest_n to_o who_o she_o confess_v whereupon_o the_o good_a man_n abolish_v that_o custom_n see_v more_o harm_n then_o good_a to_o come_v by_o it_o 7._o and_o this_o act_n of_o his_o be_v approve_v by_o that_o famous_a preacher_n chrysostome_n who_o succeed_v he_o in_o that_o see_v but_o if_o it_o have_v be_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n it_o ought_v not_o for_o some_o abuse_n to_o have_v be_v abolish_v augustine_n also_o say_v si_fw-la deest_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la confiteatur_fw-la proximo_fw-la 10._o if_o a_o priest_n can_v be_v have_v let_v a_o man_n confess_v to_o his_o neighbour_n ergo_fw-la to_o confess_v to_o a_o priest_n be_v no_o certain_a ordinance_n of_o god_n for_o than_o may_v it_o not_o be_v change_v the_o papist_n 2._o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o every_o man_n shall_v confess_v to_o his_o own_o parish_n priest_n error_n 15_o thom._n ex_fw-la tileman_n heshus_n loc_fw-la 7._o err_v 46._o the_o protestant_n yea_o but_o augustine_n say_v sacerdos_n ut_fw-la perfectus_fw-la medice_fw-la primùm_fw-la sciat_fw-la curare_fw-la peccata_fw-la sva_fw-la &_o tum_fw-la detergere_fw-la aliena_fw-la the_o priest_n as_o a_o cunning_a physician_n must_v first_o know_v how_o to_o cure_v his_o own_o sin_n before_o he_o can_v help_v another_o de_fw-fr salutaribus_fw-la docum_fw-la cap._n 50._o and_o in_o another_o place_n quaerat_fw-la sacerdotem_fw-la scientem_fw-la ligare_fw-la &_o soluere_fw-la ne_fw-la ambo_fw-la cadant_fw-la in_o foveam_fw-la let_v he_o seek_v a_o priest_n that_o know_v how_o to_o bind_v and_o loose_v lest_o both_o fall_n into_o the_o ditch_n de_fw-fr penitent_a cap._n 10._o but_o such_o a_o one_o can_v be_v have_v in_o every_o parish_n for_o many_o time_n the_o parish_n priest_n be_v worse_a than_o he_o that_o come_v to_o be_v confess_v such_o a_o one_o augustine_n say_v be_v not_o to_o be_v take_v and_o therefore_o man_n shall_v not_o in_o that_o case_n bound_v themselves_o to_o their_o popish_a priest_n the_o papist_n 3._o it_o be_v enough_o for_o man_n once_o a_o year_n in_o the_o time_n of_o lent_n to_o confess_v themselves_o error_n 16_o council_n trid._n sess_v 14._o can_n 8._o the_o protestant_n avgustine_n say_v contrary_a non_fw-la tantum_fw-la laici_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la una_fw-la die_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la debent_fw-la sine_fw-la poenitentia_fw-la not_o only_o lay_v man_n but_o not_o priest_n ought_v to_o be_v one_o day_n without_o repentance_n in_o apocal._n hom_n 2._o his_o reason_n be_v because_o they_o can_v not_o be_v one_o day_n without_o sin_n the_o seven_o question_n of_o satisfaction_n this_o question_n contain_v these_o part_n first_o whether_o the_o sin_n be_v forgive_v there_o remain_v any_o punishment_n 2._o whether_o the_o temporal_a punishment_n of_o this_o life_n may_v be_v redeem_v by_o good_a work_n 3._o whether_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n may_v be_v satisfy_v for_o sin_n and_o the_o punishment_n due_a unto_o the_o same_o 4._o whether_o one_o man_n may_v satisfy_v for_o another_o of_o these_o now_o in_o their_o order_n the_o first_o part_n whether_o the_o pvnishment_n remain_v the_o sin_n be_v once_o pardon_v the_o papist_n error_n 17_o they_o do_v affirm_v that_o it_o may_v stand_v with_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n to_o forgive_v the_o sin_n commit_v &_o yet_o reserve_v the_o punishment_n council_n triden_n sess_v 14._o can_n 14._o argum._n the_o lord_n forgive_v unto_o david_n the_o sin_n of_o adultery_n and_o murder_n which_o he_o have_v commit_v yet_o he_o punish_v he_o in_o the_o death_n of_o his_o child_n 2._o sam._n 12.13.14_o bellarm._n lib._n 4._o cap._n 2._o the_o protestant_n ans._n that_o cross_n be_v lay_v upon_o david_n not_o as_o a_o punishment_n of_o his_o sin_n but_o as_o a_o fatherly_a correction_n or_o chastisement_n to_o exercise_v he_o &_o make_v he_o more_o careful_a for_o the_o time_n follow_v as_o augustine_n say_v write_v upon_o the_o same_o example_n 34._o subsecutus_fw-la est_fw-la illius_fw-la comminationis_fw-la effectus_fw-la ut_fw-la pietas_fw-la hominis_fw-la in_o illa_fw-la humilitate_fw-la exerceretur_fw-la atque_fw-la probaretur_fw-la the_o effect_n of_o the_o threaten_a immediate_o follow_v that_o david_n godliness_n may_v thereby_o be_v try_v and_o prove_v he_o say_v not_o that_o david_n may_v thereby_o be_v punish_v argum._n christ_n say_v to_o the_o sick_a of_o the_o palsy_n mark_n 2.5_o son_n thy_o sin_n be_v forgive_v thou_o whereby_o our_o saviour_n will_v have_v they_o to_o understand_v that_o the_o sin_n be_v once_o forgive_v the_o sickness_n of_o the_o body_n which_o be_v the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n can_v not_o continue_v for_o the_o cause_n be_v remove_v the_o effect_n cease_v the_o affliction_n of_o this_o life_n be_v the_o love_a correction_n of_o god_n to_o admonish_v we_o not_o plague_n to_o punish_v we_o as_o augustine_n say_v well_o tota_n miseria_fw-la generis_fw-la humani_fw-la dolour_n medecinalis_fw-la non_fw-la sententia_fw-la poenalis_fw-la the_o misery_n of_o man_n be_v but_o a_o medicinal_a grief_n not_o a_o sentence_n of_o punishment_n in_o psalm_n 138._o the_o second_o part_n whether_o the_o temporal_a punishment_n of_o this_o life_n may_v be_v redeem_v
sed_fw-la ad_fw-la arbitrium_fw-la dei_fw-la &_o orationes_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la sin_n be_v not_o loose_v or_o retain_v at_o the_o pleasure_n of_o man_n but_o according_a to_o the_o will_n of_o god_n and_o prayer_n of_o his_o church_n the_o papist_n error_n 24_o 2._o the_o satisfactory_a and_o meritorious_a work_n of_o the_o saint_n which_o do_v abound_v be_v communicable_a and_o applicable_a to_o the_o faithful_a that_o want_n be_v the_o very_a ground_n of_o the_o indulgence_n and_o pardon_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o very_a treasure_n thereof_o and_o to_o be_v dispense_v according_a to_o every_o man_n need_n by_o the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n 2._o corinth_n 2._o sec._n 5._o coloss._n 1._o sect_n 4._o the_o protestant_n here_o be_v many_o blasphemy_n and_o untruth_n couch_v together_o 1_o that_o a_o man_n penalty_n may_v exceed_v and_o be_v great_a than_o his_o sin_n and_o so_o his_o abound_a may_v supply_v another_o man_n want_n for_o thus_o the_o rhemist_n say_v which_o can_v stand_v with_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n to_o punish_v a_o man_n more_o than_o he_o have_v deserve_v and_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n enter_v not_o into_o judgement_n with_o thy_o servant_n for_o in_o thy_o sight_n shall_v none_o that_o live_v be_v justify_v psalm_n 143.2_o and_o job_n say_v if_o the_o lord_n shall_v call_v he_o to_o account_v he_o shall_v not_o answer_v one_o to_o a_o thousand_o 9.3_o 2_o how_o can_v the_o church_n governor_n dispense_v the_o merit_n of_o one_o to_o another_o who_o make_v they_o steward_n of_o another_o man_n good_a you_o say_v also_o the_o contrary_n yourselves_o that_o the_o abound_a passion_n of_o the_o saint_n be_v applicable_a to_o other_o by_o the_o sufferer_n intention_n rhem._n 1_o colo._n 2.2_o than_o not_o by_o the_o church_n dispensation_n 3_o it_o be_v a_o great_a blasphemy_n that_o one_o may_v be_v holpen_v by_o another_o man_n merit_n and_o it_o do_v derogate_v from_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n who_o only_a merit_n be_v the_o treasure_n and_o storehouse_n of_o the_o church_n the_o most_o righteous_a man_n that_o ever_o be_v can_v but_o save_v his_o own_o soul_n ezech._n 14.14_o and_o that_o only_o by_o christ._n augustine_n say_v vnusquisque_fw-la pro_fw-la se_fw-la rationem_fw-la reddet_fw-la 22._o nec_fw-la alieno_fw-la testimonio_fw-la quisquam_fw-la adiwatur_fw-la apud_fw-la deum_fw-la &_o vix_fw-la sibi_fw-la cuique_fw-la sufficit_fw-la etc._n etc._n every_o man_n shall_v give_v account_n for_o himself_o before_o god_n no_o man_n be_v holpen_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o another_o the_o testimony_n of_o his_o own_o conscience_n do_v hardly_o suffice_v for_o himself_o the_o papist_n 3._o the_o dispense_n of_o pardon_n and_o indulgence_n be_v only_o commit_v they_o say_v error_n 25_o to_o the_o chief_a magistrate_n the_o pope_n and_o bishop_n and_o as_o the_o bishop_n in_o their_o diocese_n have_v especial_a case_n reserve_v to_o themselves_o wherein_o inferior_a priest_n be_v not_o to_o deal_v so_o the_o pope_n have_v also_o his_o proper_a reservation_n wherein_o other_o prelate_n be_v not_o to_o meddle_v council_n trident._n sess_v 14._o cap._n 7._o the_o case_n reserve_v to_o the_o pope_n be_v 51._o in_o number_n fox_n pag._n 785._o the_o bishop_n of_o paris_n ann_n 1515_o reserve_v these_o case_n to_o himself_o to_o dispense_v in_o murder_n witchcraft_n sacrilege_n heresy_n simony_n adultery_n ex_fw-la tileman_n heshus_n loc_fw-la 9_o the_o poeniten_v err_v 63._o likewise_o the_o year_n of_o their_o pardon_n be_v limit_v bishop_n may_v not_o exceed_v 40._o day_n pardon_n the_o pope_n may_v be_v lavish_a in_o his_o hundred_o and_o thousand_o yea_o and_o this_o reservation_n of_o case_n stand_v not_o only_o with_o the_o external_a policy_n of_o the_o church_n but_o be_v of_o force_n even_o before_o god_n council_n trident._n sess_v 14._o cap._n 7._o the_o protestant_n we_o will_v not_o much_o contend_v with_o they_o about_o reservation_n of_o case_n for_o we_o acknowledge_v no_o such_o power_n to_o give_v pardon_n or_o indulgence_n either_o in_o superior_a or_o inferior_a priest_n yet_o we_o will_v show_v how_o this_o devise_n of_o they_o stand_v not_o with_o their_o own_o doctrine_n argum._n 1._o it_o be_v a_o great_a power_n to_o remit_v the_o sin_n then_o to_o release_v the_o punishment_n but_o every_o priest_n have_v the_o great_a power_n as_o they_o say_v to_o remit_v sin_n yea_o as_o full_o as_o have_v the_o pope_n himself_o allen_n in_o his_o book_n of_o pardon_n cap._n 2._o ergo_fw-la why_o have_v they_o not_o the_o less_o power_n which_o be_v by_o indulgence_n to_o dispense_v with_o the_o punishment_n and_o that_o of_o these_o two_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v the_o great_a it_o be_v confess_v by_o the_o rhemist_n 2._o corinth_n 2._o sect_n 6._o argum._n 2._o in_o the_o point_n of_o death_n the_o reservation_n of_o case_n have_v no_o place_n but_o at_o that_o time_n every_o priest_n may_v absolve_v from_o all_o manner_n sin_n and_o punishment_n council_n trident._n sess_v 14_o cap._n 7._o but_o every_o hour_n be_v with_o some_o and_o aught_o to_o be_v with_o all_o the_o point_n of_o death_n because_o we_o be_v uncertain_a when_o it_o come_v and_o therefore_o ought_v always_o to_o be_v in_o a_o readiness_n therefore_o even_o by_o their_o own_o rule_n every_o priest_n have_v at_o all_o time_n authority_n to_o absolve_v in_o all_o case_n again_o if_o those_o word_n of_o christ_n be_v speak_v to_o all_o minister_n and_o preacher_n of_o the_o gospel_n john_n 20.22_o who_o sin_n you_o retain_v etc._n etc._n which_o can_v be_v deny_v to_o they_o all_o then_o be_v commit_v equal_o that_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v which_o be_v exercise_v by_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n the_o nine_o question_n of_o the_o ceremony_n and_o circumstance_n of_o penance_n the_o papist_n error_n 26_o 1._o they_o enjoin_v their_o penitent_a client_n to_o poll_v their_o head_n and_o their_o woman_n to_o wear_v a_o veil_n to_o go_v in_o black_a to_o put_v on_o sackcloth_n to_o look_v sour_o and_o such_o like_a presumption_n they_o have_v concern_v the_o habit_n of_o those_o that_o do_v penance_n bellarm._n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr penitent_a cap._n 22._o the_o protestant_n our_o saviour_n clean_o contrary_a bid_v his_o disciple_n not_o to_o look_v sour_o nor_o to_o disfigure_v themselves_o when_o they_o fast_o and_o repent_v or_o to_o show_v any_o other_o outward_a token_n of_o their_o sorrow_n but_o to_o do_v it_o secret_o between_o themselves_o and_o god_n to_o wash_v their_o face_n to_o anoint_v themselves_o with_o oil_n that_o it_o appear_v not_o to_o man_n that_o they_o fast_o matth._n 6.16.17_o augustine_n also_o answer_v a_o certain_a objection_n that_o young_a man_n new_o marry_v may_v make_v how_o can_v i_o shave_v my_o head_n or_o change_v my_o habit_n say_v thus_o vera_fw-la conuersio_fw-la sufficit_fw-la tibi_fw-la sine_fw-la vestimentorum_fw-la commutatione_n the_o true_a conversion_n of_o the_o 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coloss._n 2.23_o he_o call_v it_o voluntary_a religion_n or_o superstition_n in_o not_o spare_v the_o body_n when_o man_n do_v not_o use_v such_o outward_a exercise_n of_o fast_v and_o abstinence_n for_o the_o chastisement_n of_o the_o flesh_n to_o subdue_v it_o to_o the_o spirit_n but_o with_o a_o opinion_n of_o merit_v thereby_o prefer_v they_o before_o the_o faith_n and_o conversion_n of_o the_o heart_n as_o the_o papist_n do_v augustine_n say_v non_fw-la sit_fw-la satis_fw-la quòd_fw-la doleat_fw-la sed_fw-la ex_fw-la fide_fw-la doleat_fw-la &_o non_fw-la semper_fw-la doluisse_fw-la doleat_fw-la let_v it_o not_o suffice_v to_o be_v sorrowful_a but_o let_v his_o sorrow_n proceed_v of_o faith_n 13._o and_o let_v it_o grieve_v he_o that_o he_o be_v not_o always_o grieve_v for_o his_o sin_n so_o then_o true_a repentance_n be_v especial_o a_o inward_a work_n of_o faith_n rather_o than_o a_o exercise_n of_o the_o body_n and_o it_o ought_v always_o
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do_v of_o right_a appertain_v to_o the_o church_n as_o amariah_n the_o priest_n be_v the_o chief_a in_o all_o matter_n of_o the_o lord_n 2._o chron._n 19.11_o three_o we_o do_v not_o utter_o exclude_v spiritual_a person_n from_o temporal_a cause_n but_o as_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n have_v his_o interest_n in_o ordain_v of_o ecclesiastical_a law_n so_o spiritual_a person_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v stranger_n from_o the_o civil_a state_n be_v meet_a man_n for_o their_o knowledge_n and_o conscience_n to_o be_v consult_v withal_o and_o confer_v with_o and_o to_o be_v join_v in_o council_n with_o the_o magistrate_n in_o difficult_a matter_n as_o we_o read_v deuter._n 17.8_o how_o the_o high_a priest_n and_o chief_a judge_n do_v join_v in_o mutual_a help_n and_o assistance_n but_o that_o any_o spiritual_a person_n may_v be_v a_o temporal_a prince_n and_o have_v the_o chief_a government_n of_o both_o state_n and_o handle_v both_o sword_n we_o say_v it_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o word_n 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spiritual_a charge_n though_o they_o shall_v bend_v all_o their_o study_n and_o care_v that_o way_n much_o more_o insufficient_a shall_v they_o be_v if_o they_o be_v entangle_v in_o temporal_a affair_n for_o the_o well_o guide_v and_o order_v whereof_o a_o whole_a man_n likewise_o be_v scarce_o sufficient_a again_o say_v he_o no_o man_n that_o war_v entangle_v himself_o with_o the_o affair_n of_o this_o life_n 2._o timoth._n 2.4_o by_o affair_n seculare_fw-la here_o be_v not_o only_o understand_v as_o the_o jesuite_n imagine_v merchandise_n traffic_n buy_v sell_v and_o such_o like_a but_o the_o care_n and_o charge_n also_o of_o civil_a government_n of_o make_v law_n and_o order_n for_o the_o civil_a state_n which_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o great_a let_v to_o the_o spiritual_a business_n and_o require_v great_a study_n and_o labour_n than_o the_o other_o base_a work_n which_o be_v name_v to_o this_o augustine_n agree_v quo_fw-la jure_fw-la say_v he_o defend_v villa_n vnde_fw-la 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to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a sword_n and_o if_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o excommunicate_v which_o be_v as_o the_o spiritual_a sword_n and_o the_o great_a censure_n of_o the_o church_n no_o more_o be_v it_o to_o be_v suffer_v that_o by_o the_o authority_n or_o commandment_n of_o any_o ecclesiastical_a person_n any_o man_n shall_v be_v put_v to_o death_n the_o high_a priest_n be_v not_o to_o deal_v with_o matter_n of_o blood_n which_o touch_v the_o life_n but_o the_o offender_n be_v bring_v to_o the_o gate_n of_o the_o city_n where_o the_o magistrate_n sit_v deuter._n 17.5_o not_o to_o the_o temple_n where_o the_o priest_n minister_v nay_o we_o see_v that_o in_o the_o most_o corrupt_a time_n of_o the_o jewish_a commonwealth_n namely_o when_o they_o put_v our_o bless_a saviour_n to_o death_n the_o priest_n do_v not_o challenge_v any_o such_o power_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a say_v they_o for_o we_o to_o put_v any_o to_o death_n john_n 18.31_o but_o 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my_o god_n which_o word_n must_v needs_o declare_v a_o inward_a confidence_n and_o assure_a trust_n in_o god_n the_o protestant_n we_o hold_v it_o be_v necessary_a for_o our_o redemption_n that_o christ_n shall_v not_o only_o suffer_v bodily_a pain_n but_o also_o feel_v the_o very_a anguish_n and_o horror_n of_o soul_n that_o as_o by_o his_o death_n we_o be_v redeem_v both_o body_n and_o soul_n so_o he_o shall_v pay_v the_o ransom_n for_o both_o in_o his_o body_n and_o soul_n 1._o that_o our_o saviour_n suffer_v great_a anguish_n in_o soul_n the_o scripture_n testify_v for_o before_o his_o suffer_v in_o his_o body_n upon_o the_o cross_n be_v in_o the_o garden_n he_o say_v of_o himself_o my_o soul_n be_v heavy_a unto_o death_n at_o the_o same_o time_n be_v grievous_o trouble_v he_o sweat_v water_n and_o blood_n and_o last_o of_o all_o hang_v upon_o the_o cross_n he_o cry_v out_o by_o those_o effect_n it_o be_v evident_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v a_o great_a fear_n in_o he_o then_o 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