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A33521 A word to the upright for help and preservation in these erring dayes by errours detected, in a book, called, A testimony for the truth, Christ and his light, by some that go by the name of Quakers, wherein they manifest their foundation for salvation, which they call, the Christ of God / by him who seeks the well-fare of all men, Robert Cobbet. Cobbet, Robert. 1668 (1668) Wing C4775; ESTC R40844 31,405 34

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helper which is Christ in whom the Covenant of Grace that God hath made to man by Christs blood being incorporated God hath promised to send it forth as the prisoner of hope that is in the deep pit in which there is no waters Behold I shew you a mystery ye men in the Clouds Christ whom God hath sealed by the anointing for a Saviour being the product of the Holy Ghost to a coagelated substance from the properties of man in Mary is that holy thing the anointed in the womb that was born free whom 't was not possible for death to with-hold who being without sin had not that body of death that could be with-held by death but because the Children had the body of death he that was the Lord from Heaven having flesh of life laid down his life to wit his body into our dead bodies that we that were dead might live as said thy dead men shall rise with my dead body But this Lord Jesus through the guile of most of your Leaders is deny'd and Jesus being thus the Creation of God is the only begotten of the Father whom the Disciples saw and bore record unto who being the Fathers delight whom he foresaw from Everlasting that he would send when the fulness of time was come promiseth to him that the spirit should rest upon him to make him of a quick understanding the spirit of wisdom and counsel of might and knowledge and the fear of the Lord who being indued with the vertue of God by which he poured out his soul unto God in which travel knew of his justifying of many touching the body of our Lord this is the matter you know he saith that he proceeded from Heaven and that his flesh was meat indeed and his blood was drink indeed and that he would give his flesh for the life of the world and he that eates his flesh and drinks his blood hath Eternal Life which body of our Lord being of the Heavenly substance as it was circumscribed was the body of his personality that he gave for an offering for the Ransom of the world which body being of and from the nature of Heaven he gave it that we by it may have an interest through that body into the Heavens the Kingdome the Father hath prepared for them that love him and do believe on him whom God hath sent Thus have I given you an account of Jesus as to his Body Soul and Spirit who as he thus consisted was that form of God and express Image of his Fathers Substance whose day the Patriarchs and Prophets saw in the Spirit and rejoyced to see with whom the Apostles being conversers with bore witness to him who is the truth and to such a one confession was made in all ages by the believers till the coming of George Fox and his Disciples and being found in form and fashion as a man gave up his life into the grave of death by which he broke open the grave of eternal death by which he overcame him that had the power of death that is the Devil and delivered his Children from out of the Eternal Death by which they was held in bondage all their life long whence is that saying O Death where is thy Grave O Sin where is thy Sting O Hell where is thy Victory For know that the death of the Lord was a Revolution a passing out or through the principle of this visible world into the principle of the invisible world where saith Paul He now is an Advocate for man with God and being gone out of the visible into the invisible as he was in the visible I know him so no more but as man is brought into the invisible where he is there I have seen him and so did John Paul and Stephen Now God being in this man Christ as declared Christ is that God-man in his own person that hath brought again the dead to life Page the fifth Querie about Christ being Formity as if King was his humane body equal with God when in that body said My Father is greater then I Brethren we have proved before the personality of Christ and that he was the express Image of God in his person and since that you know that it is written that God at sundry times and in divers manners spake to the Fathers and Prophets but now saith he speaks to us by his Son on whose shoulders the Government for our peace should lie whom God hath made heir of all things who when he had by himself purged away our sins for that he was made a little lower then the Angels for the suffering of death that by his tasting of death for every man he might bring many Sons unto Glory for that it became him for whom are all things and by whom are all things to make the Captain of our Salvation perfect by sufferings by which dispute 't is out of doubt 't was Christ he spake of as he was in that form wherein he suffered death and not the light that is a principle of a diffusive property for the light is not his equal that he saith is his fellow to whom he said Sit thee at my right hand till I make thy enemies thy foot-stool but of him he saith Thy Throne O God is from Everlasting to everlasting the Scepter of thy Kingdom is a Scepter of Righteousness and of thy Rule there shall be no end and for his equallity with his Father it must be allowed for that it saith That having fulfilled the work that his Father gave him to do which was the finishing of mans Salvation ascended up unto the Throne of his Glory that God promised to him as his reward for the Redemption of man according to that that was the will of God But in that he said My Father is greater then I He speaks there as he was in his Servants state who while there stood differed nothing from a Servant though Lord of All for then he had not accomplished mans redemption which was the end for which he was sent into the world but having done the will by finishing mans Redemption takes the Throne of the Everlasting Kingdom that to him was promised and sits him down at the right hand of God in the Majesty on high where he is Gods fellow Now then is the confusion on my part who write to you the truth or on yours that deny the truth but if you will blind-fold your own understandings and trample the Pearle under your feet and turn again and rend me you shall be rebuked of God Now having cleared my self to you before God and my Lord and Master Jesus Christ if you will not receive it your destruction is of your selves Page the sixth Charge me with contradiction in saying Christ hath begotten us Children to God by his spirit and that by it he hath put us into a capacity to take of the waters of life and to drink freely in that I say that as to our Redemption it
person and not the light in conscience my reason is that if he had not been as he was creture of Soul and spirit as I am as I am nature what he had done as another Seed it had been of little avail for me so that the Seed that broke the Serpents head is not some strange thing that I am not of as I am creture by abstract from nature consisting of soul and spirit but of kind and substance as am I which he being made of from the nature of Mary by which she became creture as the off-spring of Adam doth consist of soul and spirit as do I in which soul he broke the Serpents head by drinking up the Cup of the Wine-press of God alone having none to help him who knowing the bitterness of the Cup prays that if it was possible the Cup might pass from him but knowing that it was not possible in that there was no other means by which the Serpents head could be broke and the Fathers justice satisfied in mans soul for that he had sinned saith But not my will be done but thy will be done Holy Father for this hour came I into the world and if his soul was not of man that he satisfied the justice of God with that stuck in it for its transgression man at this day is in a miserable state but being out of doubt that the soul of Christ was in properties of and from nature and creture made by Generation from the properties of Mary is that Seed God did promise to send to break the Serpents head by treading the Wine-press of wrath alone putting his soul in our souls stead the just ●…d for the unjust the Lord laid upon him the iniquity of us all saith the Scriptures Thus he is the Captain of our salvation and our High Priest for ever who as he is the Word Wisdome Power Life Light and Love of God hath no beginning of dayes nor end of life but as he was made flesh in that capacity hath beginning of days and end of this temporal life as it is to you before declared who is the wonder of Eternity that the word the maker of all things and the filler of all things should become personally flesh in a body in time to transinute time into Eternity by bringing of Eternity into time which indeed is according to promise where 't is said The Ea●… shall hear the Heavens and great shall be the increase thereof And this is the wonder spoken of by God where 't is said Behold I will do a wonder in the Earth a Virgin shall conceive bring forth a man-child without a man he being dead and buried but raised from the dead is he that hath the power over Hell and Death to give life and immortality to whomsoever he will according to Scripture that saith as the Father hath power to give life to whom he will So hath the Son power to give life to whomsoever he will therefore 't is said that thy dead body shall arise with my dead body which came to pass in that day the Lord arose from the dead as saith the Scriptures The Graves were opened and many bodies of Saints which slept arose and came out of the Graves after his Resurrection and went into the Holy City and appeared to many so that he that is dead is alive and liveth for evermore to intercede for us to God as that our High Priest and great Bishop of our souls that doth enlighten the world as he is maker of the world with the light of the world from the principle of light that he hath form'd and determining to give some more better thing unto his Saints from that he is the Lord the Redeemer as the man Christ Jesus my Lord giveth to them his spirit according to promise who is to them their life of light and that the world might know and believe to the receiving the promise sent forth his Apostles to preach the minifestation of life for the obedience of faith for the receiving the promise but asking what that he was so often spoken of that took flesh and blood the children had and took on him the Seed of Abraham what saith R. C. to this was it Christ yea or nay R. C. saith that that he you Query of is God that was in Christ the Babe born of Mary to reconcile by Christ the world unto himself that they might not perish in their sins And this Christ being born of Mary who was of the Liniage of Abraham from whom came David according to the Line of the Covenant Christ coming from Mary proceeded from David after the flesh and God forming himself with and in that body Christ for its Saviour to man was the power to Christ by which Christ brought forth mans salvation But what shall I say unto you do you sport with God hath it not been his pleasure to become one with man in that person Christ for us salvation to bring to pass you know it saith God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself but could he or did he without the body of Christ reconcile and is it not the body of Christ by which we are reconciled unto God yes verily for so saith the Scriptures and the condemnation in the creture being a consuming fire must be quenched with that that is of force to take away the cause or else it cannot be but 't will consume and nothing can change its force but the vertue of his blood which being the Sacrifice that makes the peace that he offered up unto God him to atone for sinful man and if that it could not have been that the soul of Christ could not have overcome the wrath of God that stuck in mans nature for his sins by his obedience in drinking up the Cup by which he trod the Wine-press of his Fathers wrath alone it could not have been that the soul of man could ever possibly have broke through the Angels sword set by God to keep the way of the Tree of Life from sinful man to take of its fruit that he might live but God knowing it not possible for poor man to overcome the Eternal Death chose the Seed of Abraham which was Christ to become one with him that by him Christ might overcome him that had the power of death that is the Devil by what for us he hath done and suffered but if you will not take salvation from God by Christ who is the way the means the truth and the life Let your power you say you feel be what it will it matters nothing to me you shall die in your sins for that he is as himself hath said the door and he that entreth in by him shall find pastour but he that climbeth up some other way he is a thief and a robber and breaketh in but to steal Page the Twelfth Accuse me of wronging you and your principles in saying you center in Nature instead of Grace to so speak is
not have been broken by all what that man could do and if your doctrine be true the Scriptures false and God made by Christs Apostles lyers and Christ suffered for man in vain but God is just his Scriptures true his Apostles justified in his sight but it being a so heterogene doctrine that all men in whom there is the faith will see through it I leave it to the condemnation of the Truth Page the Thirteenth Ask was his sufferings and death everlasting and say is the asserting of this good doctrine but say I is not your denying it for good doctrine damnable in that by them it is by which we can be saved they being the Gospel and the power for our salvation as Paul unto the Corinthians at large doth preach which Gospel is that that is called the everlasting Gospel that the Revelations speaks shall be preach't again after many dayes to Kindred Tongues People and Nations which Gospel abides for ever which being the death of Christ for our sins and resurrection from the dead for our justification abides for ever though he suffered not alwayes Page the Seventeenth stumble you at what declared of Christs being personal in a body proposing if Christ be not the light in every mans conscience how said he to his Disciples He that is with you shall be in you I in them and they in me that they may be one as thee and I am one Holy Father but say I why will you preach false doctrine not discerning the truth for is it not written that he saith That he that believes on me out of his belly shall flow forth living waters but saith John This he spake of his Spirit which as yet they had not received and the reason Christ was not as it ascended and that to them he might perform his promise saith that it is necessary for you that I go away for that unless I do the Comforter cannot come but if I go away I will send him and he shall be with you and in you and lead you into all truth and shall take of mine and show it unto you and testifie of me which the world cannot receive because said he they believe not on me 't is plain he spake of the spirit who was with them but not in them till his Ascention and when he was ascended up into his Glory having received all power in Heaven and in Earth according for what him was promised sends the spirit as he had promised who when he came sate upon them with cloven tongues and testified by the Apostles by Signs and Miracles showing wonders in their testifying to Christ the Saviour of men who filling their hearts with joy and gladness gave them to partake of the Union with God and Christ by which Communing they was one in the Union of the glorious Joyful life of God and Christ And this is the clear truth which if it be not hid from your eyes believe and fall down and worship the ancient of days and the Lamb upon his Throne who was dead and is alive and lives for evermore and if it should be otherwise interpreted according to what your inference of it would make it must follow that being one as God and Christ is one we are Gods as God is God and Christ as Christ is Christ and from what urged by the Scripture where Christ saith I am the light of the world the Scripture speaks the truth and can you rehearse the Scriptures and not believe the Truth for you may see if that you would not shut your eyes that Christ spake not of the light in the Jewes Consciences but of himself as he was with them in person for where he saith I am the Light of the World he saith not as I am Light in your Consciences by what follows but you will not come to me that you may have life and that this is his meaning is certain by what follows While I am in the world I am the light of the world and while you have the light walk in the light but the Prince of this world comes but in me he hath nothing and saith Christ He that believeth on me shall not enter into judgment but I will raise him up at the last day which he speaks not of any thing in himself that is distinct and apart from himself making his person not Christ but something that was in his person to wit the light to convince you of your mistake I present you with his own words wrote down by Luke That being arisen from the dead for their confirmation that he was Christ shews them his hands and his feet wherein was the print of the nails that nailed him unto the Cross saying handle me and see that it is I my self for a spirit hath not flesh and bones as you see me to have and to put them out of doubt calls to them for meat who gave him broyled fish and a honey comb and he took it and did eat before them which having done saith All must be fulfilled that was written of me in the Law of Moses Psalms and Prophets for said the Lord thus it is written and thus it behoved Christ to die and to rise from the dead the third day that Repentance and Remission of Sins should be preacht in his name amongst all Nations and ye are witnesses of these things but Thomas being not there when the Lord shewed himself sayes that except I see him and put my hands in his side and my finger into the print of his nails I will not believe the Lord appearing another time when Thomas was by calls to him and bids him put his hand in his side and his fingers into the print of the nails and be not faithless which Thomas having done cryes out My Lord and my God but said the Lord to Thomas Thou hast seen and felt and hast believed but blessed are they that have not felt nor seen and yet do believe and having promised to them to send his Spirit to endue them with power leads them to Betheny and blessed them which while he was doing was taken up into Heaven in their sight by which discourse it doth appear that Christ was not the light in his person but Christ as he was personally in his body of flesh to whom John bore witness as the Lamb of God that took away the sins of the World by which it doth appear that this fiction that sayes the light in Christ is Christ and not Christ the Christ in his person is a denying Christ come in flesh and to be fear'd that Anti-christ foretold by John that was to come and the affirming the blood of Christ not that that did Atone with God for sinful man the trampling under foot the blood of the Covenant making it an unholy thing doing despite to the spirit of Grace by which we are sanctified But this being so ridiculous a fiction is condemned of old by the Scriptures and this so great an