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A34077 The plausible arguments of a Romish priest answered by an English Protestant seasonable and useful for all Protestant families. Comber, Thomas, 1645-1699. 1686 (1686) Wing C5481; ESTC R16555 28,548 65

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Po. Well but the Literal sense is not to be left unless where the words cannot be taken otherwise than Figuratively which is not the case here Prot. Yes that is the very case here for the Literal sense is impossible and full of Contradictions but the Figurative is natural plain and easie For if we take these words Literally Christ's Body was whole and sitting at the Table and broken into pieces on the Table at the same time it must be entire now in Heaven and yet all of it in ten thousand different and distant places on the Earth We must believe the substance of Flesh hath none of its proper Accidents and that the Accidents of Bread can subsist without their proper substance We must think that to be real Flesh and Blood which we see smell taste and feel to be real Bread and Wine We must believe there is a Miracle when all our Senses which are witnesses to all other Miracles give Evidence there is no Miracle at all here In short we must contradict our Reason and deny our Senses without any need unless it be to uphold an unintelligible Literal sense when the Figurative is far more plain Po. 'T is strange how Prejudice may blind Men surely you cannot be in earnest when you say a Figurative Speech is plainer than a Speech without a Figure This only shews how desperate your Cause is which drives you to these Absurdities Prot. I will prove it is no Absurdity to maintain that in this case the Figurative sense is easier For that is the easiest sense of any words which the Mind first apprehends when we hear them For Example if one point to an House and Land and say This is my Estate there the plain sense is the Literal sense But if one hold a Writing sealed in his Hand and say This is my Estate the easiest and plainest sense then is This is that which conveys my Estate and all the benefits of it to me So if Christ had pointed to himself sitting at Table and said This is my Body the Apostles would and we must have taken it Literally but since he points to Bread and saith This is my Body the first and most natural sense of the words is This is that which signifies my Body and communicates all the benefits of my Incarnation and Passion to you and thus S. Paul expresly doth expound it when he saith it is the Communion of his Body and Blood 1 Cor. x. 16. Po. What then do you believe that Christ is in this Sacrament no otherwise but in a bare figure and empty sign Prot. We believe that Christ is here verily and indeed taken and received by the faithful and really present as to all the effects and benefits of his Passion but this presence though it be real yet is spiritual and apprehended by Faith not corporal and substantial because then it must be discerned by sense Po. From one absurdity granted many will follow and your absurd exposition forces you to hold this ridiculous assertion That a Spiritual Presence is a real Presence Prot. Dare you seriously deny this which you call a ridiculous assertion Is not Christ really with his Church to the end of the World by his Spiritual Presence Is not the Holy Ghost really with every Regenerate Man by his Spiritual Presence The effects and benefits of Christ's Death which we seek in this Sacrament are Spiritual such as Pardon Peace Grace and hopes of Glory yet they are very real and therefore we think it fittest to expect them in a Spiritual manner especially since our Lord hath told us It is the Spirit that quickneth the Flesh profiteth nothing John vi 63. And the Aposte saith Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen Heb. xi 1. That is It makes things invisible and Spiritual to be very real to the true Believer Po. I find you delight much in calling this Spiritual Meat and Drink but would gladly understand how you dare do so without any Authority of Scripture yea when the Scripture saith Christ will give us his Flesh to Eat John vi 53. Prot. We have good Authority of Scripture for this viz 1 Cor. x. 3 4 Where it is said that the Israelites had the priviledge by certain signs to Eat and Drink into Christ as well as we in a mystical way For they did all Eat of the same Spiritual Meat and did all Drink of the same Spiritual Drink For they Drank of that Spiritual Rock that followed them and that Rock was Christ We see it was Spiritual Meat and Drink which they had yet it was the same with ours and therefore ours must be Spiritual Meat and Drink too Again we are not said All to Drink into one Blood but into one Spirit 1 Cor. xii 13. Nor can we understand how St. Paul could call that which is the Communion of Christs Body by the Name of Bread after Consecration 1 Cor. xi 26 27 28. If the outward part did not remain unchanged in substance though its use be changed and our Souls are certainly fed here yet these are not capable of feeding either on Bread or Flesh Yea our Lord himself teaches us to Expound those Words in St. John of a Spiritual Communication of his Body for he saith The words he speaks to us are Spirit and Life John vi 63. Po. You do but prevaricate when you pretend to believe Christ is really present in the Sacrament for if you truly believed this you would give Divine Worship to the Host as we do Prot. We bend our Knees address our Prayers and give Divine Worship to Christ who is really present to our Faith in this Sacrament But since we are sure that the outward part is not changed in nature but only in use and signification and doth still remain Bread we dare not give Divine Worship to that which is a Creature since it would be Idolatry so to do Po. Well I will inform you of one very ill consequence of your denying Christs Flesh and Blood to be substantially in this Sacrament that is you make it to be only a Commemoration of the Sacrifice on the Cross but we give it far more honour believing it to be a Propitiatory Sacrifice for the sins of quick and dead Prot. Neither you nor we ought to make the Sacrament what we please we must take our Notions of it from Scripture and from Christ who instituted it and he bids us Do this in Remembrance of Him Luk. xxii 19. And S. Paul doth not say it is the Lords Death but the shewing forth of his Death 1 Cor. xi 26. Yea he makes this the main difference between the legal Sacrifices and that of Christ on the Cross that they were often Offered but he was only to be Offered once and by that one Offering hath perfectly satisfied for the Sins of the whole World Hebr. ix 25 26. And Chap. x. 14. So that this Sacrament is certainly a