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A90686 A scripture-rale to the Lords Table; or, Observations upon M. Humphreys his treatise, intituled, An humble vindication of free admission to the Lords Supper. Tending to discover the loose and prophane principles therein suggested. Published for the undeceiving the weak, and removing offences occasioned by it in the practice of reformation. Being the result of the discourses of some preachers in the county of Gloucester near Stow on the Wold, at their weekly meetings. / Digested by Anthony Palmer pastor of the Church of Christ at Bourton on the Water. Palmer, Anthony, 1618?-1679. 1654 (1654) Wing P218; Thomason E1496_2; ESTC R208631 72,178 194

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it_o 5._o they_o shall_v discern_v how_o the_o lord_n ow_v and_o bless_v their_o ministry_n 6._o they_o shall_v have_v sweet_a communion_n with_o saint_n 7._o they_o will_v by_o this_o provoke_v and_o awake_v all_o to_o examine_v their_o condition_n 8._o they_o will_v act_v suitable_o to_o those_o rich_a and_o glorious_a promise_n of_o the_o build_n of_o the_o lord_n temple_n in_o the_o latter_a day_n of_o the_o gospel_n zech._n 6.12_o 13._o and_o many_o other_o for_o separation_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n which_o he_o suggest_v dangerous_a we_o answer_v that_o if_o as_o much_o and_o great_a profaneness_n and_o abomination_n shall_v be_v foul_v with_o the_o visible_a church_n as_o be_v too_o apparent_a as_o even_o among_o such_o know_v not_o god_n then_o separation_n as_o to_o the_o holy_a thing_n of_o god_n where_o holy_a man_n have_v only_o right_a be_v justifiable_a in_o the_o eye_n of_o god_n saint_n and_o angel_n for_o his_o suggest_a danger_n of_o separation_n upon_o 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