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A79503 Moderate message to Quakers, seekers and Socinians, by a friend and well-wisher to them all, or Some arguments offered to clear up three points in difference betwixt them and others ... By John Child. Child, John, 1638?-1684. 1676 (1676) Wing C3850; ESTC R171309 24,333 83

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of Prayers and T●a●s or why may not a kissing of the Cup do instead of drinking of th● Wine and cruming the Bread into a Mess of Pottage stand for a breaking of it and they that do so say we have celebrated the Lords Supper and so bring the serious and grave worship of a dear and dying Saviour into a silly Pastime in some respects and into a Hodg-Podg or Slibber-slobber in other respects and by this means lay a fair foundation for a total slighting and enervating of Christ's service on one hand or for a jumble or mixture of Mahomet and the Pope on the other hand but that such things ought not to be done we prove in pursuit of our minor proposition by these following Arguments 32. Maj. If men ought not to presume to alter any thing of the first frame and pattern of things under the Law without special Tolleration then they ought not to presume to do so under the Gospel But men ought not to presume to do so under the Law Ergo the minor Minor is proved by the Sacred Text See thou make all things according to the pattern shewed thee Ex. 25.40 Heb. 8.5 The change or alteration of small Ceremonies was accounted a Sin and punished as carrying the Ark in a manner differing from apointment and a variation in a point of worship reputed to be the offering up of strange fire c. Cons 1 The Major is clear by these considerations arising from this general head viz. That there is the same reason for the Establishment and contrivance of the Ways and Methods of the Gospel as there was for that of the Law as first the Gospel had the same Authority of Heaven stampt upon it as the Law had 't is said in reference to the most despised part of it that God sent John to Baptise Luk. 3.2 Joh. 1.6 v. 33. Cons 2 That the Ministers by which it was sent forth and publisht were as great as any Ministers of the Law for 't is said of John Baptist that he was greater than a Prophet and amongst them that were Born of Women there had not arose a greater who was the beginner of the Gospel from whom it w●s afterwards confi●m'd and carryed on by Christ himself that great Minister of the Sanctuary who in pitching of the Tabernacle and setling the M●thods of the Gospel acted not of himself but from the Father and in p●int of Dignity and Preheminency was beyond both Moses and John Cons 3 That there was but two Duties Instituted besides what was comprized in the great Magnacharta the Laws of Natural Religion we mean the Sacraments of Baptism and the Supper of the Lord and therefore no need to lessen or diminish them Cons 4 That these are neither difficult nor chargable so as that there should on that account be a change or alteration of them for Baptism is much easier than Circumcision and the Celebration of the Supper much cheaper than the offering of Bulls and Goats Oxen Sheep Heifers and the like Cons 5 They have as blessed a Tendency as any Precepts and Ceremonies of the Law had to direct men to the Confession of Sin to an owning of the blessed Jesus before witness to the serious thoughts of Death and going down into the Grave and to a Resurrection by the power of that Jesus whom they do profess all which is contained in Baptisme if rightly understood as also to a Remembrance of his great Love he bare to them evidenc'd by the shameful and miserable Death he dyed for them to which useful work and necessary Duty appertains Salvation according to the saying of the Apostle 1 Cor. 15. By which ye are saved if ye keep in memory what I Preacht unto you which was That Christ died for our Sins according to the Scriptures and which is lively set forth in the Celebration of the Supper For as oft as you do this you shew forth the Lords Death till he comes Cons 6 There is the same danger depending upon the Removing or alteration of the Ceremonies of the Gospel as was of the Law for there being an aptness and propensity in mens minds to busie themselves about something relating to Worship if the right and true Methods be removed or chang'd there is then no great difficulty for to inovate and introduce wrong ones in stead of Right The Inventions of men instead of the Institutions of God and his Son nay it may be the Ceremonies of Bell and the Dragon of Baal and Belshazzer when once the remembrance of Right things are nigh worn out in the world and then farewel to the true Service of the Gospel Cons 7 Lastly there is the same damage doubtless depending in reference to those that shall change or diminish the Duties of the Gospel as there is in reference to those that should do so by the Law and that our Saviour tells us in case they be saved They shall be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven from all which considerations we frame this general Argument for the confirmation of the major Proposition Arg. 33 That which had the Authority of Heaven stampt upon it the greatest and highest sort of Gods Ministers to set it forth that is easie to be perform'd and may be done with little trouble and charge that hath a blessed tendency and where is a double danger depending upon a total neglect or alteration men ought not to remove of alter But it t is so of the duties of the Gospel Ergo. More might be said upon this Argument if two things did not forbid viz. want of Time and fearing to make the Book too Big we shall therefore Answer two objections and pass on Object 1 John said he was to Decrease and Christ to Increase Object 2 Our Saviour gave orders for a new Baptism in his great and last Commission to his Disciples Mat. 28. Mark 16. Answ The first of these is scarce worthy of the name of an objection there is so little in it for 1 if Baptisme with water was once a duty as hath been already proved being evidenc'd 1 by Gods sending John to Baptize 2 by Christs submiting to it 3 by mens being highly charged with sin that did reject it 4 by Christ and his disciples after owning and practiseing of it 5 it's being a branch or duty of the Gospel 6 it's being joyn'd with other lasting and Perpetual dutys as Repentance Confession of sin and owning the Mesiah 7 from the reason of the thing I say if it was once a duty upon these grounds and from these concuring circumstances then they must needs run a very great hazard that shall reject and violate it upon so slight and uncertain a ground as one particular text that doth not d●clare it void but is at most but interpretative and admits of another interpretation quite contrary to the opposite opinion and that with a great deal of more reason and probabillity For by Johns decreasing cannot be meant