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A77739 A confutation of the Anabaptists, and all others who affect not civill government; proving the lawfullnesse of it: and a full answer to all their cavills, that are, or can be made against it. With a nut-cracker for an unnaturall nut, whose shell is as hard as the scales of Leviathan, and the kernell of his heart as hard as a piece of the nether mill-stone, Iob 41.15.24. yet the hammer of Gods word that breaketh in pieces the rocks, Ier. 23.29. will break this nut, that all may see the devillish kernell that is in it. Also arguments against the Anabaptists, proving that infants borne of Christian parents ought to be baptized: with a full answer to all their cavills that are (or can be) made against it. Imprimatur Ja. Cranford. Bakewell, Thomas, b. 1618 or 19. 1644 (1644) Wing B530; Thomason E51_20; ESTC R209932 98,225 89

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unto_o we_o those_o who_o it_o please_v god_n to_o put_v in_o the_o place_n of_o magistrate_n they_o be_v call_v god_n i_o have_v say_v you_o be_v god_n psal_n 82.6_o and_o this_o be_v of_o no_o small_a importance_n for_o thereby_o be_v signify_v that_o they_o have_v commandment_n from_o god_n and_o that_o they_o be_v furnish_v with_o the_o authority_n of_o god_n and_o do_v altogether_o bear_v the_o person_n of_o god_n who_o place_n they_o do_v after_o a_o certain_a manner_n supply_v see_v john_n 10.35_o if_o the_o scripture_n say_v he_o call_v they_o god_n unto_o who_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v give_v which_o be_v his_o word_n of_o command_n be_v a_o word_n of_o authority_n what_o be_v this_o
great_a famine_n and_o terrible_a siege_n be_v more_o cruel_a to_o their_o suck_a infant_n then_o the_o sea_n monster_n or_o like_o the_o ostrich_n in_o the_o wilderness_n lam_n 4.3_o the_o precious_a son_n of_o zion_n comparable_a to_o fine_a gold_n be_v esteem_v as_o earthen_a pitcher_n vers_fw-la 2._o so_o these_o man_n when_o christ_n high_o commend_v and_o great_o delight_v in_o young_a infant_n these_o cruel_a parent_n think_v they_o not_o worthy_a of_o their_o society_n in_o divine_a ordinance_n how_o do_v they_o know_v but_o they_o be_v sanctify_v in_o the_o womb_n as_o well_o as_o jeremiah_n jer._n 1.5_o and_o how_o do_v they_o know_v but_o they_o be_v fill_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n even_o from_o their_o mother_n womb_n aswell_o as_o john_n the_o baptist_n luke_n 1.15_o but_o be_v john_n sanctify_v from_o the_o womb_n who_o be_v the_o first_o minister_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n what_o be_v this_o but_o to_o inform_v john_n that_o infant_n from_o the_o womb_n be_v fit_v for_o baptism_n and_o again_o christ_n be_v conceive_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o sanctify_v infancy_n aswell_o as_o any_o other_o age_n that_o none_o may_v be_v except_v against_o then_o how_o dare_v these_o man_n make_v exception_n where_o christ_n make_v none_o then_o may_v infant_n be_v sanctify_v in_o the_o womb_n and_o receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n from_o the_o womb_n then_o say_v peter_n can_v any_o man_n forbid_v that_o these_o shall_v be_v baptize_v that_o have_v receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n aswell_o as_o we_o and_o he_o command_v they_o to_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n act_n 10.47_o 48._o five_o the_o apostle_n do_v baptize_v they_o that_o do_v but_o in_o a_o general_a way_n confess_v that_o christ_n be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n act_v 8.37_o 38._o and_o they_o baptize_v simon_n magus_n &_o many_o in_o samaria_n when_o as_o yet_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v fall_v upon_o none_o of_o they_o only_o they_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n 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you_o with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n mat._n 3.11_o that_o be_v when_o christ_n by_o his_o spirit_n shall_v make_v that_o baptism_n by_o water_n effectual_a by_o the_o inward_a work_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o yet_o all_o this_o but_o one_o baptism_n ephes_n 4.5_o and_o paul_n speak_v to_o those_o that_o be_v baptize_v with_o water_n and_o yet_o be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n say_v john_n baptize_v unto_o repentance_n and_o say_v to_o the_o people_n that_o they_o shall_v believe_v on_o he_o that_o shall_v come_v after_o he_o that_o be_v on_o jesus_n christ_n and_o when_o they_o hear_v this_o they_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n and_o paul_n lay_v his_o hand_n on_o they_o and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n come_v on_o they_o act_v 19.5.6_o now_o this_o be_v not_o another_o baptism_n but_o only_o the_o inward_a baptism_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n as_o john_n have_v tell_v they_o before_o how_o that_o he_o which_o come_v after_o he_o shall_v baptize_v 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lord_n alone_o to_o take_v his_o own_o time_n to_o make_v it_o effectual_a to_o they_o we_o must_v not_o tie_v the_o lord_n to_o convert_v they_o to_o any_o limit_a time_n of_o their_o age_n some_o the_o lord_n convert_v in_o the_o first_o hour_n and_o some_o not_o till_o the_o last_o hour_n of_o their_o life_n again_o it_o be_v say_v when_o christ_n be_v baptize_v and_o go_v out_o of_o the_o water_n than_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n descend_v upon_o he_o and_o a_o voice_n from_o heaven_n come_v say_v this_o be_v my_o belove_a son_n in_o who_o i_o be_o well_o please_v mat._n 3.16.17_o then_o if_o we_o will_v see_v the_o work_n of_o god_n appear_v upon_o our_o child_n let_v we_o first_o baptize_v they_o and_o then_o we_o may_v look_v for_o it_o and_o not_o before_o seven_o we_o may_v take_v notice_n of_o the_o two_o sacrament_n of_o the_o jew_n compare_v with_o we_o and_o their_o agreement_n together_o first_o concern_v their_o passeover_n it_o be_v require_v that_o they_o shall_v know_v 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