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A89830 The boaster bared, and his armour put off, without a conquest, by the quaking principle. In an answer to Enoch Hovvets, called Quaking principles dasht in pieces. / Written by James Nayler. Naylor, James, 1617?-1660. 1655 (1655) Wing N266; Thomason E835_12; ESTC R202980 14,097 15

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and pleading for them which must perish at his comming But if thou meanest his comming at the end of the World then it seems thou wouldest take a long day for them to continue even as long as God is to have any worship here and such stuff as this thou brings forth to dash the quaking Principle a pieces Is this thy standing truth that lyes thus in confusion But it is no wonder to see thee oppose Christ and all that follow him who knowest him not yet come nor the day of restoration and yet in a busie blind zeale without Christ wouldst set judging the things of God Christ and his Saints with a reprobate Spirit that knows not Christ in thee and with thy carnall spirit wouldst keep up carnal Ordinances and yet wouldst accuse us for wizards 2 Cor. 13.5 but read the Epistle of Paul to the Galatians and there thou maist read thy self and how the Galatians were bewitched by such wizrads holding up carnall commandments against the spirituall life For we own a time of Death a time of quickning a time of growth and a time of perfection and with the Light of Christ we see it which the world doth not nor when we was in death we did not but thou art much worse than they who art holding up that which was never commanded but forbidden and here the witch is found out but not in the quakers and into thy pit thou hast digged thou art falne and let thy mischief be upon thy own pate but peace and truth be upon Israels seed for ever Now to thy last head which is not thy least lye that is affording absolute perfection at one instant and that we admit of none but perfect men into conjunction and when thou hast doubled the lye that thy bonds of wickedness may be strong then thou goes about to disprove it and here thou raves and raises up much mud and dirty stuffe as shooting and hitting and stating the matter to cast upon us as though we held Absolute perfection at one instant but he is blinde that cannot see thy shooting is against any perfection and yet thou darest not speak out The great controversie at this day between Christ and Antichrist and their Ministers is about perfection and being free from sin God made man perfect and free from sin but the Devil having led man out of his perfection into sin labours there to keep him and God in love hath given Christ and furnished him with power to lead man again to his perfection and freedome and now here is the contest between Christ and Antichrist and their Disciples Christ gave out his Ministers for the perfecting of the Saints and to bring them into one faith unto a perfect man unto the measure of the Stature of the fulness of Christ Eph. 4.11.12 13. Col. 1.28 And all that ebelive in him preach this and press after it and none of these did ever plead against perfection or say none could be free from the being of sin while they live but believed in perfection and freedome and this faith stands in Christ who is able to save to the uttermost all that believe in him Now Antichrist he hath his M●nisters sent out under the name of Christ and making use of Scripture to beget a saith in all that will believe them but quite contrary that is that none can be free while they live but when they dye then they may And thus each master hath his Ministers pleading for their Masters Kingdome here in this life who should be served in this life now because the Devil hath nothing at present to give to deceive withall but sin and filthiness therefore he alwayes deceives those that believe him with promising a thing that is to come perswading them to do his work here and they shal have Christs wages hereafter This is the lyar Now saith Christ I am the Son and if you know the Son he shall make you free even from the committing of sin John 8.32 to the 37. But then the works of the Devil must not stand for to this and I am made manifest to destroy the works of the Devil 1 John 3.3.9 and you cannot serve two Masters saith Christ me and Mammon now all that believe in Christ believes this and so denies the works of the devil and follows Christ and these never want power for they have him who is the great power of God to salvation and as they grow in the knowledge of Christ so they know Power and Victory and their faith is that which overcomes the world and the Devill 1 John 5.4 Now the other hath a Faith without Power Rom. 1.16 which withstands the power that is to believe they can never be free from sin till they dye and yet belives there is a God that will reward accordingly and this the Apostle calls the faith of the Devill Jam. 2. And this faith is to uphold his own Kingdom but perfection and freedom destroys it And now read thy self whose Minister thou art and whose faith thou preaches and according to thy faith so shall it be unto thee and every one else and that the Devill knows wel enough that makes him thus rage that any should believe freedome for he that comes to God must first believe that he is able to save or else he justly cuts himself off by his unbeliefe But all that know God have learned to deny thee and thy Faith and Doctrine and with that light which is before sin was art thou comprehended and judged who art tossing and searching out ways and gathering up those Scriptures to plead for sin that holy men wrote to lead out of sin and the Saints imperfection in their growth thou usest to make people believe they never came further and when thou hast wrested many Scriptures to that end to keep all blinde that are blinde for those that see thy mist cannot hurt Then thou falls to thy lying again repeating them over least they should have forgotten them in this confusion thou hast led them through And thou tells again of denying Christs Body and his Ordinances and thus thou leads them that will believe thee into thy practise to tell it after thee but least any should behold thy practise and ours and so come to suspect thee or own us thou shuts the Kingdom against them thus Satan sayes thou may let them be pure and holy in regard of outward holiness or Iustice between man and man and freedom from the pollution of the world through lust if he can make them be of those that deny the Lord that bought them This error is sin enough to damn them as though a man could be free from the pollutions of the World through lust and yet deny the Lord that bought them here shall all that know freedom from pollution through lust judg thee that thou never yet knew it who sayest it may stand with denying Christ And thus being convinced that our practise will