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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A20505	A discourse vppon a question of the estate of this time. Faithfully translated out of French by E.A.	Aggas, Edward.	1591 (1591)	STC 6910; ESTC S118984	10,741	18

A Discourse Vppon a Question of the Estate of this time Faithfully translated out of French by E. A. LONDON Printed by Iohn Wolfe and are to be solde at his shop ouer against the great South doore of Paules 1591. A question of this time Why doth not the King become a Catholike If he would become a Catholike his realme would soone be at peace all his subiectes would obey him and without any difficultie acknowledge him This is the daily speeche of diuers but let vs consider whether it be not of persons as farre different in humours as they differ in intents WHen the leaguers began to doubt of the good successe of their affaires to mistrust their owne forces and to imagine that in the and the King might become maister they gaue out that it was requisite he should become a Catholike alleadging that afterwarde on such assuraunce as they might gather that he meant good earnest they would acknowledge him to be their King supposing that if they must néedes grow to that passe that of necessitie they must obey him they would at the least perswade and make the simple people whome they had abused to beléeue that their first stirring vp of these commotions and troubles of war tended only to the preseruation of the Cathol Apostol Romish religion and the Kings conuersion But these spéeches would much better haue beséemed the mouths of other Catholikes that did continue in their dueties then theirs for they are for to remember that the late deceased King was as great a catholike as any of his predecessours and yet was it hée whome the Leaguers did first set vpon against him directed they their first exclamations iniuries and reproches in his life time began they their conspiracies rebellions and disobedience against his person and estate did they so farre attempt as with the aduise of the most apparant professours of Romish religion among them to deliberate consult of and conclude his death whom finally most barbarously and horribly they stroke and slew through a Iacobine Friar who was by them induced and brought thereto The same Leaguers are also to remember that by their writings and diffamatory Libelles printed and published at such time as they thought the K. that now is to be ouerthrown past hope of euer attaining to the succession of this Crown they proclaimd him a relaps aduowing that albeit he woulde returne into the bosome of the catholike Church yet he was no longer receiuable to the succession of the Crowne and so consequently his subiectes were dispensed with for acknowledging him or yéelding him anie obedience yea this they caused to be preached abroad by the hired tongues of their preachers Many other such spéeches and writings of the same Authors coulde I here alleadge to reprooue and conuince them of contradiction and so to shew them to be nothing lesse then ledde with so holy a desire of the kings conuersion were it the Argument of this Discourse but being content with this litle which in respect of them I haue but touched by the way I will indeuour to answere and satisfie others that doe vse the same spéech albeit with other affection and meaning then they Among sundry that giue themselues out to be the Kings seruants we daily heare no other spéeches but these Would to God the King would become a Catholike That he would vouchsafe so much content to the Catholikes as to go to masse so shoulde the Leaguers no longer haue any cloke for their rebellion the Townes that they holde should yéelde him obedience and to be briefe we should obtaine peace that is so necessary to this realme My maisters sith you are the Kings seruants or at the least that you do so terme your selues and that it séemes besides your own sayings that you would haue vs beléeue you so to be I dare presume that you will hearken to my reasons and accept of them with a milde and vpright mind for how frée soeuer I be in my words yet do I meane to say nothing that may be offensiue vnto you I pray you my maisters these wishes and desires together with such zealous sighs as séeme to procéede from your stomaks do they simply growe of a holy affection to the wealth and peace of Gods Church and this realme and the saluation of the King or rather of some affected shew then of any true essence of good will I am content to take them in the first sense which is the best and to beléeue that sincerely you are of opinion that if the King would spéedely without tarrying vntill a Councell hath determined the controuersies that at this day raigne throughout christendome about the diuersities of opinions concerning the Cath. Apost and Romish religion yéelde himselfe to bée instructed in the Catholike religion his realme would inmediatly grow to peace and all factions and partialities amongest vs cease I would to God that that were the onely let and in so holy a desire wil I neuer giue place to any Besides I am assured that the King is so ready to learne that he will easely be content to be instructed and brought to the Cath. Apost Romish religion in case any man can shew and prooue him to be in any error yet may I tell you that this remedy is not sufficient to cure our diseases Do you beléeue that the Leaguers doe in heart desire that the King would be brought to the Cath. Apost Romish religion If you do so thinke you are deceiued They sée me to desire it but they would be very sory it should be so yea albeit the King had done it yet would they yéelde him no more obedience then they now do but rather they woulde vse his returne to the Cath. Church as a meane to seuer the Germans Switzers and other protestant nations from the Kings friendship and so bring him to loose al credit and reputation both within and without the realme a matter which great princes do continue according as they are thought of and are in effect constant couragious and stedfast in their good purposes Marke therefore this one onely matter among many other of like pollicy which now I thinke méete to shew you for so may you discouer the trueth of these their spéeches The chiefe of the League and among others the D. of Lorraine perceiuing one of the kings chiefest humane forces to consist in the succour that he expecteth from the Germaines fearing nothing so much as the discent of an army of that nation haue by their agents and factors giuen to vnderstand to the princes Electors and other lords and potentates of Germany that the King was become or at the least had sworne and promised the officers of the crowne and French nobility that he would become a Catholike That already both about his person and in his principall and most important affaires within the realme and without he vsed almost none but Catholikes Which to be so sayde they mark what they be whom he hath

which I leaue to the discretion of those that list more déepely to penetrate thereinto I wil procéede to intreat of the profit and commoditie that may redound to al christendome so long as the king standeth fast in the declarations which he hath published both before and since his comming to the crowne for matter of conscience and religion wherein he alwayes submitted him selfe to the determination of a generall or nationall councell The king is not alone in this realme of his religion there are but ouer many instructed therein that do professe the same Neither in this realme alone are there many withdrawen from the Romish Church but also in England Scotland Denmarke Sweden Poleland Germany Switzerland and other places being more then halfe christendome What way therfore do ye thinke to be best to reclaime al these nations to the obedience of the cath apost Romish church whether war or a frée generall councell Inquisitions fires gibbets murders warres battels fiege of townes leagues conuenticles slaughters assaults poysonings in briefe all other meanes and subtilities in the worlde that these 30. yeres could be practised to the great desolation and detriment of al christendome but especially of this realme haue as yet nothing preuailed Only they haue made a number of Atheists Libertines and Epicures contemners of God his word and church we haue found these medicines to be no fitter to the cure of the sickenes of the mind then is a strong cleane and fuming wine to the frantike or burning ague but rather to resemble oile to quench a flaming fire or as when a man hath paine in his arme for the curing therof to cut off his leg or other member My maisters the Apostles and antient fathers of the Church neuer vsed any such tooles for the rooting out of those errours and heresies which from time to time were sowen and planted therein Marke in the Acts of the Apostles what they did in the beginning in the cutting off of meats and abolishing of Iudaisme which some through the circumcision went about to continue in the church after grace giuen by Iesus Christ Consider what the Emperour Constantine the great did for the suppression and condemning of the heresie of Arrius Sée also what other Emperours did in like cases what course thy tooke to abolish the heresies of the Nestorians Pelagians Anabaptists and others as the Counselles called for the same do testifie Why then shall not we do the like in these dayes where the question concerneth not a handfull of people retired from the Romish church but euen halfe christendome But now here commeth some angrie fellow that will tell me that the heresies of these dayes are already condemned by the councel of Trent and therfore if that a processe alredy iudged euen by decrée where all parties haue answered reciprocally is not to be reduced to the file what shal then become of a processe iudged by default and contumacie where the parties haue neither appeared nor answered But omitting al other causes of nullitie aleadged against the said Councell as by sundry bookes expressely written doth appeare the Protestants and Huguenots do say and complaine that they are not heard in the said councel of Trent That albeit they were thereto summoned and called yet they durst not appeare as doubting of the safety of their persons by reason of a certaine principle both then and yet holden by some of our diuines importing That faith is not to be kept with heretikes and fearing the like successe as happened to those who contrarie to the publike faith and the Emperour Signismundes safeconduct were put to death at the councel of Constance If we were once sufficiently grounded to condemne this opinion and errour may we not be so againe It is not the first time that there haue béene diuers councels holden for the rooting out of one selfe heresie Sith there haue béene two Councels holden in Italie and one Sinode in France for the determining of the opinion of a meane Deacon of Saint Maurice of Angiers is it not greater reason to call a generall frée councell for so many peoples and nations of Christendome as at this day are of diuers opinions Let vs then shewe that we feare not the touchstone yea let them know that equitie and trueth are on our side which can neuer be reuersed in the presence of God who by his holy spirite alwaies assisteth a frée councel lawfully assembled and holden I could be content here to make a digression and exclamation against our holy fathers the Popes who are or should be the common fathers of all faithfull and Catholike people for suffering so much christian bloud to be shead about these arguments and controuersies in religion also for that they haue rather fauoured allowed and consented to the leuying of such wars hereabout then vsed the spirituall sword the which is Gods word for the cutting off of the course of heresie but in respect of the reuerence of their memorie the place that they haue holden the honor that I owe to that holy sea and eschewing of offence I will holde my peace I say therefore that as this sickenes of diuersitie of opinions in religion is spirituall so it is requisite thereto to applie spiritual remedies and medicines To say with some that the king is to be instructed we may say as much of al other that holde the same opinions as he doth and so when shal we haue done teaching of euery one particularly Againe thinke you so to win the consent of the inhabitants of England Scotland Denmarke Sweden Germany and other countries that haue frée exercise of their religion without controlement Wéene you that the doctours of Sorbonne and other such diuines shall be welcome to them in particular when they come to minister vnto them this foode and instruction Ye are deceiued it is a méere mockerie neither can that be the necessarie remedy to this disease Nothing but a generall councell can cure so generall a sickenesse For the honour of God therfore my Maisters you that are seruauntes to God and the king as well Cleargie men as others neuer withstand this course And you of the League let reason rule you as well your affaires are but in bad case I say and affirme that vnto such as in lieu of employing themselues about the calling of a generall councel shall withstand and hinder the same we may iustly attribute the causes of whatsoeuer domage may ensue to the catho apostol and Romish religion aduowing that they be guilty and answerable before god for al the robberies murders fires spoils ransoms violations ruines calamities and other outrages and excesse of the warres I know well enough my maisters that many of you do wish that the king would become a catholike to the end ye might haue peace and ye desire peace to the end to returne to your houses there to inioy your woonted commodities and pleasures But if ye obtaine not this wish at Gods hand ye may be