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A12284 A censure upon the dialogue of the Anabaptists intituled, A description of what God hath predestinated concerning man ... By Henry Ainsworth. Ainsworth, Henry, 1571-1622? 1623 (1623) STC 226; ESTC S100100 65,025 70

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world_n before_o moses_n law_n which_o these_o man_n speak_v of_o rom._n 5.12.13.14_o four_o let_v all_o they_o say_v be_v give_v they_o yet_o it_o help_v they_o not_o for_o i_o have_v before_o prove_v that_o we_o be_v all_o in_o adam_n as_o live_a man_n not_o as_o dead_a corpse_n and_o so_o have_v soul_n of_o ●easo●_n and_o understanding_n in_o he_o original_o even_o as_o we_o have_v body_n eye_n ear_n etc._n etc._n in_o he_o original_o though_o after_o a_o different_a manner_n as_o before_o be_v note_v further_o they_o say_v god_n never_o purpose_v to_o execute_v on_o adam_n for_o that_o transgression_n condemnation_n to_o hell_n in_o that_o he_o purpose_v to_o send_v christ_n betwixt_o in_o who_o adam_n believe_v shall_v be_v save_v if_o adam_n for_o his_o own_o sin_n be_v not_o condemn_v to_o hell_n without_o remedy_n shall_v any_o of_o his_o posterity_n be_v send_v to_o hell_n without_o remedy_n and_o that_o for_o his_o sin_n etc._n etc._n answ._n 1._o the_o question_n in_o the_o first_o place_n be_v change_v which_o be_v whether_o adam_n and_o all_o his_o posterity_n in_o he_o fall_v from_o god_n deserve_v not_o hell_n for_o their_o sin_n this_o they_o deny_v not_o neither_o can_v disprove_v 2._o as_o god_n purpose_v not_o to_o damn_v adam_n for_o his_o sin_n so_o neither_o purpose_v he_o to_o damn_v noah_n for_o his_o drunkenness_n lot_n for_o his_o incest_n david_n for_o his_o adultery_n and_o murder_n etc._n etc._n but_o to_o give_v th●m_a remedy_n by_o faith_n in_o christ._n will_v they_o hereupon_o plead_v that_o other_o actual_a drunkard_n murderer_n whoremonger_n deserve_v not_o damnation_n or_o shall_v not_o many_o such_o be_v damn_v for_o these_o sin_n 3._o though_o all_o infant_n for_o their_o native_a sin_n and_o all_o man_n for_o their_o actual_a sin_n deserve_v damnation_n yet_o never_o be_v it_o god_n purpose_n to_o damn_v all_o without_o remedy_n for_o christ_n the_o second_o adam_n give_v righteousness_n and_o life_n to_o all_o infant_n and_o old_a transgressor_n that_o be_v bear_v of_o he_o as_o the_o first_o adam_n convey_v unrighteousness_n and_o death_n to_o all_o his_o ordinary_a natural_a posterity_n yea_o grace_n here_o exceed_v for_o the_o judgement_n or_o guilt_n of_o original_a sin_n be_v by_o one_o offence_n to_o condemnation_n but_o the_o free_a gift_n by_o christ_n be_v of_o many_o offence_n unto_o justification_n rom._n 5.16_o they_o object_n that_o condemnation_n be_v for_o not_o believe_v in_o christ_n joh_n 3_o 19_o &_o 16_o 9_o mar._n 16.16_o rom._n 11.32_o answ._n first_o th●_n apostle_n say_v the_o wage_n of_o sin_n be_v death_n rom._n 6.23_o therefore_o the_o wicked_a shall_v be_v condemn_v
not_o only_o for_o their_o not_o believe_v in_o christ_n but_o also_o for_o their_o unmercifulnesse_n idolatry_n adultery_n and_o other_o crime_n math._n 25.41.42_o rom._n 2.5_o 9_o second_o the_o sin_n of_o unbelief_n cleave_v unto_o all_o adam_n child_n as_o other_o sin_n and_o shall_v be_v impute_v as_o well_o as_o the_o sin_n of_o lust_n or_o any_o other_o iniquity_n three_o to_o believe_v be_v not_o in_o the_o will_n or_o power_n of_o man_n but_o be_v the_o gracious_a gift_n of_o god_n to_o such_o as_o he_o have_v ordain_v unto_o life_n eph._n 2_o 8_o act_n 13.48_o again_o they_o allege_v 116._o that_o adam_n by_o that_o transgression_n deprive_v himself_o of_o god_n favour_n in_o that_o estate_n wherein_o he_o be_v in_o paradise_n and_o notwithstanding_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n have_v by_o his_o si●_n procure_v this_o judgement_n curse_v be_v the_o earth_n for_o thy_o sake_n &c_n &c_n gen._n 3._o thus_o adam_n bring_v himself_o and_o all_o his_o posterity_n the_o earth_n and_o every_o creature_n in_o it_o to_o vanity_n and_o bondage_n of_o corruption_n rom._n 8.20_o etc._n etc._n and_o in_o this_o estate_n be_v all_o adam_n son_n beget_v and_o bear_v so_o that_o by_o adam_n sin_n vanity_n corruption_n and_o death_n go_v over_o all_o etc._n etc._n so_o infant_n have_v original_a corruption_n as_o other_o creature_n have_v yet_o those_o that_o die_v and_o have_v corruption_n by_o adam_n sin_n shall_v not_o be_v cast_v into_o hell_n fire_n answ._n a_o fellow_n murderer_n traitor_n that_o be_v apprehend_v by_o the_o magistrate_n imprison_v keep_v in_o fetter_n and_o affliction_n his_o land_n and_o good_n confiscate_v etc._n etc._n plead_v he_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v put_v to_o death_n because_o he_o have_v suffer_v for_o his_o crime_n loss_n of_o liberty_n good_n etc._n etc._n but_o will_v this_o plea_n save_o he_o even_o such_o be_v the_o plea_n of_o th●se_a evil_a man_n for_o all_o man_n be_v in_o adam_n fall●n_v from_o god_n and_o traitor_n to_o his_o majesty_n child_n of_o wrath_n &_o servant_n of_o sin_n and_o satan_n because_o god_n have_v curse_v the_o earth_n for_o their_o sake_n cast_v they_o out_o of_o earthly_a paradise_n make_v the_o creature_n subject_a to_o vanity_n and_o themselves_o subject_a to_o sorrow_n and_o misery_n therefore_o they_o d●serue_v not_o to_o die_v in_o hell_n if_o these_o vain_a man_n may_v be_v judge_n but_o we_o know_v the_o judgement_n of_o god_n be_v according_a to_o truth_n against_o all_o evil_a doer_n he_o tell_v we_o the_o wage_n of_o sin_n be_v death_n but_o the_o gift_n of_o god_n be_v eternal_a life_n through_o christ_n rom._n 6.23_o where_o eternal_a life_n be_v oppose_v to_o death_n show_v that_o eternal_a death_n be_v the_o wage_n due_a for_o sin_n and_o what_o sin_n be_v be_v there_o that_o deserve_v not_o hell_n 2._o whereas_o they_o say_v adam_z by_o his_o sin_n deprive_v himself_o of_o paradise_n it_o be_v true_a but_o if_o they_o mean_v earthly_a paradise_n only_o they_o err_v from_o the_o truth_n for_o by_o his_o sin_n he_o be_v depriu●d_v also_o of_o the_o heavenly_a paradise_n to_o which_o there_o be_v no_o restore_v but_o by_o christ_n luk._n 23.43_o reu._n 2.7_o and_o as_o himself_o so_o all_o his_o posterity_n that_o sin_v in_o he_o rom._n 5._o three_o so_o where_o they_o say_v all_o his_o posterity_n be_v subject_v to_o vanity_n and_o corruption_n it_o be_v true_a but_o not_o all_o the_o truth_n unless_o they_o understand_v such_o corruption_n as_o peter_n speak_v 2._o pet._n 2.12_o which_o be_v eternal_a destruction_n and_o then_o they_o yield_v the_o cause_n but_o they_o mean_v not_o so_o but_o corruption_n such_o as_o be_v in_o beast_n bird_n etc._n etc._n wherein_o they_o go_v quite_o astray_o for_o beast_n and_o other_o brutish_a and_o senseless_a creature_n be_v not_o sinner_n as_o all_o adam_n child_n be_v rom._n 5_o 12.19_o sin_n be_v not_o but_o in_o reasonable_a creature_n only_o as_o angel_n and_o man_n neither_o be_v any_o creature_n subject_a to_o eternal_a torment_n but_o sinner_n only_o other_o creature_n when_o they_o perish_v there_o be_v a_o end_n of_o they_o and_o of_o their_o misery_n with_o they_o but_o they_o that_o perish_v in_o their_o sin_n have_v no_o end_n of_o their_o misery_n but_o it_o be_v eternal_a math._n 25.46_o mark_n 9.45.46_o wherefore_o they_o do_v not_o well_o to_o expound_v rom._n 5._o by_o rom._n 8_o because_o the_o apostle_n speak_v not_o of_o the_o same_o but_o of_o divers_a thing_n and_o estate_n in_o those_o two_o chapter_n four_o take_v that_o which_o they_o say_v and_o it_o overthrow_v they_o for_o how_o shall_v adam_n sin_n bring_v all_o his_o posterity_n unto_o death_n but_o by_o their_o guilt_n in_o adam_n sin_n if_o it_o make_v not_o they_o sinner_n the_o scripture_n which_o they_o former_o allege_v ezek._n 18_o teach_v that_o the_o child_n shall_v not_o die_v for_o their_o father_n sin_n now_o see_v many_o infant_n die_v daily_o it_o prove_v they_o all_o to_o be_v sinner_n because_o death_n be_v the_o wage_n of_o sin_n rom._n 6_o 23._o gen._n 2.17_o 117._o at_o length_n they_o come_v to_o answer_v rom._n 5._o with_o this_o perverse_a doctrine_n this_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n that_o by_o adam_n sin_n all_o his_o posterity_n have_v weak_a nature_n rom._n 8.3_o by_o which_o when_o the_o commandment_n come_v rom._n 7.10_o th●y_o can_v obey_v and_o live_v but_o sin_n and_o so_o die_v till_o when_o they_o be_v alive_a without_o the_o law_n so_o say_v the_o apostle_n vers_fw-la 9_o and_o thus_o be_v verify_v that_o all_o both_o jew_n and_o gentile_n be_v under_o sin_n etc._n etc._n read_v on_o the_o scripture_n and_o you_o may_v evident_o see_v that_o neither_o this_o nor_o any_o part_n of_o god_n word_n be_v speak_v to_o or_o of_o infant_n answ._n this_o be_v not_o the_o apostle_n meaning_n for_o he_o say_v not_o they_o have_v weak_a nature_n but_o that_o all_o have_v sin_v and_o through_o the_o offence_n of_o one_o many_o be_v dead_a many_o be_v make_v sinner_n rom._n 5_o 12.15.19_o which_o be_v more_o than_o weakness_n of_o nature_n and_o proneness_n to_o sin_n second_o in_o rom._n 8.3_o it_o be_v say_v that_o it_o the_o law_n be_v weak_a through_o the_o fl●sh_n and_o so_o can_v save_v any_o man_n which_o word_n these_o man_n wrest_v as_o if_o it_o mean_v adam_n child_n weak_a which_o thing_n though_o it_o be_v true_a yet_o be_v it_o not_o that_o which_o be_v speak_v of_o in_o rom._n 8.3_o three_o when_o the_o apostle_n say_v in_o rom._n 7.9_o that_o he_o be_v alive_a without_o the_o law_n this_o contradict_v according_a to_o their_o sense_n the_o other_o scripture_n in_o rom._n 5_o 12._o that_o all_o have_v sin_v and_o be_v dead_a the_o apostle_n in_o rom._n 5._o speak_v of_o thing_n as_o they_o be_v in_o rom._n 7.9_o he_o speak_v of_o thing_n as_o they_o seem_v to_o be_v but_o be_v not_o indeed_o paul_n be_v alive_a in_o his_o own_o conceit_n think_v himself_o able_a to_o keep_v the_o law_n as_o natural_a man_n do_v suppose_v they_o can_v but_o when_o the_o commandment_n come_v to_o wit_n unto_o his_o knowledge_n and_o conscience_n then_o sin_v revive_v and_o he_o die_v how_o can_v this_o be_v see_v the_o commandment_n be_v holy_a just_a and_o good_a v_o 12_o he_o tell_v we_o in_o 13_o v._n that_o sin_n wrought_v death_n in_o he_o by_o that_o which_o be_v good_a so_o then_o he_o be_v sinful_a though_o he_o know_v it_o not_o before_o the_o commandment_n come_v sinful_a by_o nature_n but_o not_o discern_v this_o his_o woeful_a state_n the_o law_n be_v give_v to_o show_v it_o he_o for_o by_o the_o law_n come_v the_o knowledge_n of_o sin_n rom._n 3.20_o again_o say_v in_o rom._n 7_o 11_o that_o sin_n take_v occasion_n by_o the_o commandment_n deceive_v he_o and_o slay_v he_o he_o plain_o acknowledge_v sin_n to_o have_v be_v in_o he_o before_o the_o commandment_n come_v this_o he_o confirm_v in_o v_o 14._o saying_n the_o law_n be_v spiritual_a but_o i_o be_o carnal_a sell_v under_o sin_n whereupon_o he_o apply_v the_o evil_n which_o he_o do_v to_o si●ne_v dwell_v in_o he_o v_o 17.20_o and_o this_o inhabit_v or_o indwell_v sin_n be_v that_o original_a sin_n whereof_o we_o treat_v which_o paul_n for_o a_o while_o can_v not_o discern_v to_o be_v in_o he_o as_o all_o natural_a man_n discern_v it_o not_o but_o count_v it_o a_o idle_a term_n and_o think_v there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n till_o by_o the_o law_n he_o come_v to_o discern_v it_o and_o to_o lament_v it_o four_o it_o be_v here_o to_o be_v observe_v how_o the_o anabaptist_n ●grant_a all_o man_n have_v weak_a nature_n and_o can_v obey_v and_o live_v but_o sin_n and_o die_v how_o come_v this_o to_o pass_v by_o adam_n
be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o answ._n it_o be_v even_o a_o wonder_n to_o behold_v how_o these_o man_n pervert_v err_v and_o slander_v as_o if_o they_o have_v sell_v themselves_o to_o work_v iniquity_n we_o teach_v not_o as_o the_o perverse_o speak_v that_o david_n sin_v in_o be_v conceive_v and_o bear_v for_o these_o be_v the_o work_n of_o god_n and_o nature_n be_v good_a but_o david_n be_v a_o sinner_n because_o he_o be_v conceive_v and_o bear_v in_o sin_n as_o himself_o confess_v 2_o they_o err_v in_o say_v the_o soul_n be_v the_o subject_n of_o sin_n for_o neither_o the_o soul_n alone_o nor_o the_o body_n alone_o but_o the_o whole_a man_n which_o differ_v from_o both_o and_o consist_v of_o both_o he_o be_v the_o subject_n of_o sin_n neither_o do_v the_o body_n without_o the_o soul_n nor_o the_o soul_n without_o the_o body_n commit_v sin_n but_o the_o man_n while_o the_o soul_n be_v in_o the_o body_n sin_v 2_o cor._n 5_o 10_o and_o as_o the_o soul_n be_v not_o create_v but_o in_o the_o body_n zach._n 12_o 1_o so_o when_o it_o depart_v from_o the_o body_n it_o sin_v no_o more_o but_o go_v for_o judgement_n heb._n 9_o 27_o eccles._n 9_o 5_o 6_o 10._o 3_o whereas_o they_o allege_v that_o wickedness_n be_v from_o the_o heart_n mat._n 15_o 19_o it_o be_v speak_v of_o live_a man_n consist_v of_o soul_n and_o body_n madness_n as_o solomon_n say_v be_v in_o their_o heart_n while_o they_o live_v and_o after_o that_o they_o go_v to_o the_o dead_a eccles_n 9_o 3._o and_o where_o they_o say_v the_o soul_n come_v from_o god_n the_o matter_n of_o the_o body_n from_o the_o parent_n they_o lay_v not_o down_o the_o truth_n full_o for_o though_o the_o soul_n be_v create_v of_o god_n and_o be_v not_o material_o from_o the_o parent_n as_o the_o body_n yet_o the_o parent_n give_v occasion_n to_o infuse_v the_o soul_n for_o without_o corporal_a generation_n no_o soul_n be_v create_v and_o so_o the_o soul_n may_v in_o some_o sort_n be_v say_v to_o have_v the_o beginning_n from_o adam_n though_o not_o of_o any_o matter_n from_o he_o the_o essence_n of_o be_v of_o god_n the_o subsistence_n of_o it_o be_v from_o the_o parent_n from_o who_o it_o have_v the_o manner_n of_o subsist_v in_o the_o body_n 4_o though_o the_o soul_n as_o it_o be_v create_v of_o god_n be_v very_o good_a as_o the_o body_n also_o respect_v natural_o be_v good_a yet_o they_o err_v in_o say_v the_o body_n sin_v not_o till_o it_o be_v infe●ted_v with_o the_o soul_n by_o transgression_n of_o a_o law_n whereby_o they_o mean_v actual_a transgression_n after_o it_o know_v the_o law_n for_o first_o it_o be_v not_o the_o body_n but_o the_o man_n of_o body_n and_o soul_n that_o sin_v as_o before_o be_v show_v second_o the_o body_n be_v not_o infect_v with_o the_o soul_n but_o both_o body_n and_o soul_n be_v infect_v with_o sin_n to_o wit_n that_o inbred_a and_o inhabit_v sin_n which_o come_v from_o adam_n as_o before_o be_v prove_v from_o rom._n 5._o and_o this_o sin_n man_n have_v both_o by_o imputation_n and_o inherence_n before_o he_o actual_o transgress_v the_o law_n rom._n 5.14_o psal._n 51_o for_o that_o which_o be_v bear_v of_o the_o flesh_n be_v fl●sh_a joh._n 3.6.5_o they_o notorious_o sl●nder_v we_o that_o we_o shall_v affirm_v the_o very_a matter_n or_o substance_n whereof_o david_n be_v make_v to_o be_v sin_n we_o affirm_v no_o such_o thing_n the_o matter_n or_o substance_n we_o say_v be_v good_a as_o every_o creature_n of_o god_n be_v sin_n be_v a_o evil_a accident_n cleave_v to_o the_o substance_n to_o the_o body_n and_o soul_n of_o man_n of_o like_a falsehood_n it_o be_v that_o we_o shall_v affirm_v david_n to_o confess_v in_o psal_n 51._o that_o the_o substance_n whereof_o he_o be_v make_v be_v sin_n neither_o david_n nor_o we_o ever_o so_o speak_v so_o the_o argument_n which_o by_o consequence_n they_o frame_v touch_v the_o substance_n of_o christ_n body_n that_o it_o shall_v be_v sin_n be_v frivolous_a collect_v from_o a_o fiction_n of_o their_o idle_a head_n for_o if_o no_o man_n substance_n be_v sin_n as_o we_o firm_o hold_v much_o less_a christ_n after_o this_o they_o cast_v a_o stumble_a block_n in_o the_o way_n and_o will_v have_v we_o show_v how_o infant_n that_o have_v sin_v and_o be_v under_o condemnation_n of_o hell_n can_v be_v reconcile_v to_o god_n but_o only_o by_o faith_n in_o christ_n jesus_n and_o if_o they_o can_v but_o by_o repentance_n and_o faith_n then_o be_v they_o all_o leave_v under_o condemnation_n not_o for_o any_o law_n that_o th●y_v have_v break_v but_o for_o their_o father_n adam_n sin_n answ._n 122._o that_o all_o have_v sin_v and_o be_v under_o condemnation_n be_v prove_v by_o the_o apostle_n rom._n 5_o 12_o 18_o how_o infant_n can_v be_v reconcile_v to_o god_n he_o also_o teach_v namely_o through_o the_o gift_n by_o grace_n by_o one_o man_n jesus_n christ_n rom._n 5_o 15_o 18._o the_o manner_n if_o it_o be_v show_v i_o fear_v these_o man_n will_v not_o receive_v it_o for_o they_o that_o have_v so_o 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cor._n 15_o 22._o this_o apostolic_a doctrine_n be_v as_o contrary_a to_o the_o anabaptist_n as_o light_n be_v to_o darkness_n 2_o they_o hereby_o weaken_v if_o they_o can_v the_o apostle_n argument_n in_o heb._n 7_o 9_o 10_o by_o levy_n pay_v tithe_n to_o melchisedek_n in_o abraham_n for_o a_o man_n may_v cavil_n that_o levi_n have_v no_o life_n nor_o be_v at_o that_o time_n but_o paul_n say_v he_o be_v in_o the_o loin_n of_o his_o father_n abraham_n when_o melchisedek_n meet_v he_o so_o say_v i_o we_o all_o be_v in_o the_o loin_n of_o our_o father_n adam_n when_o he_o transgress_v if_o then_o levi_n pay_v tithe_n when_o abraham_n do_v we_o all_o break_v god_n law_n when_o adam_n do_v 3_o they_o hereby_o weaken_v as_o they_o can_v the_o apostle_n proof_n of_o our_o redemption_n by_o christ_n for_o he_o say_v that_o adam_n be_v the_o figure_n of_o christ_n that_o be_v to_o come_v and_o if_o through_o the_o offence_n of_o one_o many_o be_v dead_a much_o more_o th●_n gift_n ●y_a grace_n 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but_o be_v communicate_v with_o all_o his_o child_n who_o therefore_o be_v the_o second_o adam_n cause_v life_n as_o the_o first_o adam_n cause_v death_n rom._n 5_o 1_o cor._n 15._o 5_o like_a vanity_n be_v in_o their_o next_o word_n infant_n have_v then_o no_o be_v no_o life_n therefore_o the_o law_n have_v no_o dominion_n over_o they_o for_o so_o they_o may_v elude_v paul_n argument_n of_o levy_n pay_v tithe_n heb._n 7_o 9_o 10_o say_v levi_n have_v then_o no_o be_v no_o life_n therefore_o he_o can_v pay_v no_o tithe_n in_o abraham_n day_n but_o as_o the_o apostle_n say_v he_o be_v in_o the_o loin_n of_o abraham_n and_o so_o he_o pay_v tithe_n likewise_o we_o be_v in_o the_o loin_n of_o adam_n and_o so_o we_o sin_v again_o in_o rom._n 7_o 1_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o a_o man_n during_o life_n who_o when_o he_o be_v dead_a his_o wife_n be_v free_a from_o his_o law_n v_o 2._o if_o they_o will_v apply_v this_o to_o all_o sin_n and_o sinner_n than_o they_o think_v when_o a_o wicked_a 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5_o 1_o joh._n 3_o and_o many_o scripture_n the_o consequence_n that_o therefore_o they_o be_v capable_a of_o the_o latter_a also_o ●o_o wit_n of_o christian_a grace_n be_v thus_o manifest_v 1_o because_o the_o first_o adam_n be_v a_o figure_n of_o the_o second_o adam_n christ_n so_o that_o as_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o first_o adam_n his_o fault_n disobedience_n and_o death_n for_o it_o come_v on_o all_o his_o child_n both_o by_o imputation_n and_o infection_n or_o corruption_n of_o nature_n so_o the_o righteousness_n and_o obedience_n of_o christ_n come_v on_o all_o his_o child_n both_o by_o imputation_n and_o renew_n of_o nature_n unto_o life_n and_o salvation_n as_o the_o apostle_n compare_v they_o rom._n 5.12.15.16.17.18.19.21_o 2_o because_o infant_n be_v by_o adam_n sinner_n child_n of_o
and_o they_o be_v as_o necessary_o imply_v in_o the_o late_a christ_n bid_v they_o proclaim_v or_o preach_v the_o gospel_n but_o what_o the_o gospel_n be_v be_v not_o here_o declare_v we_o must_v gather_v it_o from_o other_o scripture_n the_o gospel_n or_o evangelie_o be_v the_o glad_a tiding_n or_o joyful_a declaration_n that_o the_o promise_n which_o be_v make_v unto_o the_o father_n god_n have_v fulfill_v the_o same_o unto_o we_o their_o child_n the_o promise_n i_o say_v concern_v christ_n and_o the_o redemption_n of_o the_o world_n by_o he_o as_o these_o scripture_n teach_v act._n 13.32.33_o luk._n 1.54.55.69.70.71.72.73_o etc._n etc._n act._n 2.38.39_o &_o 26.22.23_o luk._n 4.18_o 21._o so_o the_o gospel_n which_o be_v the_o good_a tiding_n of_o the_o fulfil_n of_o the_o promise_n be_v as_o large_a as_o the_o promise_n be_v whereupon_o not_o in_o the_o forementioned_a scripture_n only_o but_o in_o many_o other_o place_n the_o apostle_n refer_v the_o gospel_n to_o the_o promise_n or_o promise_n make_v of_o old_a as_o it_o be_v of_o faith_n that_o it_o may_v be_v by_o grace_n to_o the_o end_n the_o promise_n may_v be_v sure_a to_o all_o the_o seed_n rom._n 4.16_o and_o now_o we_o brethren_n as_o isaak_n be_v be_v the_o child_n of_o promise_n gal._n 4.28_o and_o christ_n be_v a_o minister_n of_o the_o circumcision_n for_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n to_o confirm_v the_o promise_n make_v unto_o the_o father_n and_o that_o the_o gentile_n may_v glorify_v god_n for_o mercy_n rom._n 15.8.9_o and_o that_o the_o promise_n by_o faith_n of_o jesus_n christ_n may_v be_v give_v to_o they_o that_o believe_v gal._n 3.22_o and_o paul_n a_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n according_a to_o the_o promise_n of_o life_n which_o be_v in_o christ_n jesus_n 2._o tim._n 1.1_o and_o many_o the_o like_a not_o in_o general_a only_o but_o the_o particular_a promise_n at_o several_a time_n be_v show_v to_o be_v accomplish_v in_o the_o gospel_n as_o the_o promise_n to_o adam_n rom._n 16_o 20._o from_o 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for_o circumcision_n 145._o gen._n 17._o there_o be_v none_o for_o baptism_n of_o infant_n answ._n this_o be_v before_o disprove_v and_o a_o commandment_n show_v mark._n 16._o for_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o faithful_a in_o infancy_n be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o gospel_n see_v the_o gospel_n be_v the_o fulfil_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o promise_v make_v to_o the_o father_n and_o to_o abraham_n in_o special_a act._n 13_o 32_o 33._o luk._n 1.55.73_o if_o it_o be_v object_v that_o baptise_v of_o infant_n be_v not_o there_o particular_o express_v i_o answer_v neither_o be_v other_o part_n of_o the_o gospel_n particular_o express_v th●re_o but_o the_o gospel_n in_o general_a be_v to_o be_v proclaim_v all_o part_n of_o the_o gospel_n whereof_o seal_v the_o infant_n be_v one_o be_v necessary_o imply_v note_v also_o that_o thing_n be_v teach_v &_o command_v sometime_o in_o scripture_n though_o not_o in_o express_a word_n as_o the_o trinity_n of_o person_n in_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o godhead_n the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o dead_a as_o christ_n prove_v be_v teach_v in_o exod._n 3._o eternal_a life_n in_o heaven_n and_o eternal_a death_n in_o hell_n be_v not_o express_v in_o moses_n law_n nor_o that_o they_o shall_v have_v synagogue_n in_o every_o city_n for_o the_o people_n to_o meet_v on_o the_o sabbath_n neither_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v it_o teach_v in_o express_a word_n that_o christ_n be_v coessential_a coequal_a coeternal_a with_o the_o father_n or_o that_o his_o death_n and_o obedience_n be_v the_o merit_n of_o our_o righteousness_n or_o satisfaction_n for_o our_o sin_n nor_o express_o command_v that_o woman_n shall_v receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n nor_o example_n that_o any_o do_v with_o sundry_a other_o thing_n which_o though_o they_o be_v not_o express_v in_o plain_a word_n yet_o be_v they_o sound_o to_o be_v prove_v by_o argument_n from_o the_o scripture_n 2_o that_o commandment_n include_v male_n only_o child_n or_o servant_n though_o unbeliever_n and_o exclude_v all_o female_n though_o believer_n so_o do_v not_o baptism_n answ._n 1_o it_o be_v untrue_o say_v that_o servant_n unbeliever_n be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v they_o feign_v this_o the_o s●ri●ture_n tea●heth_v they_o not_o so_o but_o the_o contrary_n for_o circumcision_n be_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o f●ith_n rom._n 4_o 11_o and_o shall_v it_o be_v set_v upon_o unbeliever_n which_o have_v no_o righteousness_n no_o faith_n so_o god_n shall_v be_v make_v the_o author_n of_o a_o false_a and_o lie_a seal_n to_o signify_v and_o to_o assure_v the_o thing_n which_o be_v not_o again_o every_o circumcise_a person_n be_v to_o eat_v the_o passover_n and_o have_v all_o other_o privilege_n of_o israells_n law_n exod._n 12_o 48_o 49._o the_o passover_n signify_v christ_n and_o the_o eat_n of_o it_o life_n by_o christ_n 1_o cor._n 5.7.8_o joh._n 6.57_o but_o no_o unbeliever_n have_v these_o benefit_n and_o if_o unbeliever_n and_o israelite_n 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14.24.25_o compare_v with_o psal._n 77.16.17_o etc._n etc._n and_o they_o may_v see_v there_o be_v water_n enough_o in_o the_o cloud_n and_o they_o will_v not_o say_v i_o think_v that_o there_o be_v no_o water_n in_o the_o sea_n all_o outward_a baptise_v or_o wash_v must_v be_v with_o water_n or_o some_o other_o liquor_n if_o they_o be_v not_o baptize_v with_o water_n what_o other_o liquor_n be_v they_o baptize_v in_o not_o with_o blood_n as_o in_o the_o baptism_n of_o suffer_a death_n for_o christ_n sake_n which_o they_o impertinent_o mention_v not_o with_o wine_n or_o strong_a drink_n for_o they_o find_v none_o such_o in_o the_o wilderness_n if_o they_o can_v show_v nothing_o but_o water_n to_o baptise_v they_o in_o let_v they_o deny_v no_o more_o for_o shame_n that_o they_o be_v baptize_v with_o water_n god_n speak_v to_o our_o father_n by_o the_o prophet_n at_o sundry_a time_n or_o in_o 〈◊〉_d sundry_a part_n as_o it_o be_v by_o piece_n meal_n as_o the_o apostle_n teach_v hebrew_n 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