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A91721 The Racovian catechisme vvherein you have the substance of the confession of those churches, which in the kingdom of Poland, and great dukedome of Lithuania, and other provinces appertaining to that kingdom, do affirm, that no other save the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, is that one God of Israel, and that the man Jesus of Nazareth, who was born of the Virgin, and no other besides, or before him, is the onely begotten Sonne of God.; Racovian catechism. English. 1652. Smalcius, Valentin, 1572-1622.; Socinus, Faustus, 1539-1604. 1652 (1652) Wing R121; Thomason E1320_1; ESTC R200387 94,429 183

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the New Covenant by the word Spirit is sometimes designed the very Gospell of Jesus Christ partly because the things contained therein are such as were revealed by God himself and could not have been discovered by the wit of man partly because it respecteth the spirit of man and maketh us spirituall which the Law could not do Hence the Apostle Paul saith Rom. 7. 6. But now we are freed from the Law that being dead wherein we were held so that we serve in newnesse of the Spirit and not in oldnesse of the Letter And Rom. 8. 2. The Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus hath freed me from the Law of Sin and Death And ver 9. If any man have not the Spirit of Christ he is none of his And 2 Cor. 3. 6. the same Apostle calleth himself not a Minister of the Letter that is the Law but of the Spirit or New Covenant Secondly by the word Spirit is understood such a Gift of God as is by the Scripture called an Earnest or pledge of our Inheritance 2 Cor. 1. 22. chap. 5. 5. Ephes 1. 14. So that we thereby conceive a firm and certain hope of the Eternall life that is promised to us have a kind of taste and feeling thereof in our hearts Q. Do we not perceive a hope of Eternall Life by the very preaching of the Gospell A. Yes in some measure for from the preaching of the Gospell a hope of Eternall life therein promised may be acquired otherwise why should that Life be there promised But to fasten and rivet in our minds a firm and certain hope thereof by vertue whereof we may continue invincible in all temptations it seemeth requisite that that promise outwardly proposed by the preaching of the Gospell should be inwardly sealed in our hearts by God Quest Doth this inward sealing happen unto all to whom the outward preaching of the Gospell cometh Answ At no hand but onely unto them who believe the Gospell preached to them and so rightly use that outward means imployed by God in confirming the promise of Eternall Life For if that Gift of the holy Spirit which continued but for a time was given only to those that believed the Gospell much more are we to hold that that Gift of the holy Spirit which is perpetuall is not imparted to others but them who have sincerely believed the Gospell and from their hearts embraced it Q. Is there not need of the inward Gift of the holy Spirit to believe the Gospel A. By no means for neither do we read in the holy Scriptures that that Gift is conferred on any one but him that believeth the Gospel See John 7. 38 39. Act. 8. 21 13 14 15 16 17. Acts 15. 7 8. Act. 19. 1 2 6. Gal. 3. 14. Ephes 1. 13. Q. Since you have declared to me what the Gift of the holy Spirit is I desire you also to declare whether the holy Spirit be a person of the Godhead A. That the holy Spirit is not a person of the God-head is evident from the Scriptures wherein it is affirmed that he is given and sent by God 1 Joh. 3. 21. 22. 23 24. 1 Pet. 1. 12. yea in the name of Christ John 14. 26. That he speaketh not of himself but what he heareth glorifying Christ in that he receiveth of his and declareth it to his Disciples John 16. 13. 14. that he is the Advocate John 14. 16 17. compared with 1 John 2. 1. where you have the same Greek appellation in both place but in the latter the English Translators themselves render it Advocate That he maketh intercession for the Saints with groans inutterable Rom. 8. 26 All which with sundry other things that might be enumerated cannot possibly agree to him that is a person of the God-head and consequently the most High God CHAP. VII Touching the confirmation of the Divine Will Q. HOw Jesus declared unto us the Divine VVill hath been explained I would now have it also explained how he confirmed the same A. There are three things of Christ that did confirme the Divine Will which he declared first the absolute innocency of his life John 8. 46. 1 John 3. 5. Secondly his great and innumerable Miracles John 15. 24. John 21. 25. Thirdly his death 1 Tim. 2. 6. chap. 6. 13. All these three are united in that noted place of John 1 Epist 5. 8. There are three that bare record on Earth The Spirit the Water and the Bloud For by the Spirit without question the holy Spirit is meant by whose Vertue the Miracles of Christ were wrought Acts. 10. 38. As by Water is understood the Purity of his life and by Bloud his Bloudy death Q. What was the Innocency of Christs Life and how was the will of God confirmed thereby A. The Innocency of his Life was such that he not onely committed no sin neither was guil found in his mouth nor could he be convicted of any crime but he lived so transcendently pure as that none either before or after did equallize him so that he came next to God himself in Holinesse and was therein very like to him Whence it followeth that the Doctrine delivered by him was most true Q. What were his Miracles and how did they confirme the Divine will A. The Miracles were so great as none before him ever did and so many as that had they been set down in particular the world would not contain the Books And these Miracles do therefore make to the confirming of the will of God in that it is not imaginable that God would invest any one with such power as was truly Divine who had not been sent by him CHAP. VIII Of Christs Death Q. VVHat was the Death of Christ and how did it confirm the Wil of God A. Such a death as had all sorts of afflictions ushering it in and was of it self most bitter and ignominious so that the Scripture thereupon testifieth that he was made like to his brethren in all things Heb. 2. 17. Q. Why doth the Scripture witnesse that Christ was buried and that God was not forgetfull of him in the grave A. That it might appear that he was truly dead and yet not left therein so that the faithfull may thereby conceive a hope that though death seise upon them yet shall they not utterly perish Q. But what necessity was there that Christ should suffer so many tbings and undergo so bitter a Death A. Because those that are to be saved by him are for the most part subject to the same afflictions and Death Q. But what reason was there that the Saviour should endure the same afflictions and death with the saved A. There are two reasons thereof as Christ also saveth the Faithfull in a two-fold way for first by his example he moveth them to persist in the way of Salvation that they have entred into Next he standeth by them in every combate of temptations afflictions and troubles and at length delivereth them from
life and suffer death he will raise me again from the dead Q. VVhat say you to the third A. Neither from this place doth it appear that Christ raised himself from the dead since it is not here written that he was quickned with his own Spirit but only quickned with the Spirit or in Spirit Q. In what body was Christ raised A. In the self same that he was crucified in in as much as we read that he did after his resurrection eat and drink with his Disciples Act. 10. 41. And shewed the wounds in his hands feet and side John 20. 27. Q. VVhy was Christ raised in that body A. That he might ascertain his Disciples of his resurrection which was also the cause why he conversed with them forty dayes that he might discourse of the Kingdome of God and ever and anon appear to them after that he had been raised from the dead Q. But what body hath Christ at this time A. He hath a glorious powerfull spirituall and immortall body as being made a quickning Spirit 1 Cor. 15. 45. Q. VVhat bodies shall those that believe in him have A. Such as are like unto his glorious body Phil. 3. last verse Q. VVhere doth the scripture testifie that Christ was taken up into Heaven A. Luke 24. 50 51. where we read And he brought them forth unto Bethany and lifting up his hands blessed them And it came to passe that as he blessed them he parted from them and was carryed up into Heaven And Mark 16. 19. and Act 1. 9. Q. Why was he lifted up to Heaven A. Because that is the seat of immortality and there is the mansion and common-wealth of all Gods people whether he as their fore-runner is entered in that he may prepare a place for them Phil. 3. 20. Heb. 6. 20. Joh. 14. 2 3. Q. Where doth the Scripture deliver that Christ is sate down at the right hand of God and hatb all things subject to him A. Ephes 1. 20 21 22. where the Apostle expresly treateth of this matter And 1 Cor. 15. 27. 1 Pet. 3. 22. Heb. 1. 3 13. Heb. 12. 2. Q. VVhat is it to sit at the Right hand of God A. To be next to him in Dignity to be his Vicegerent and to have efficacious authority to govern and protect the people of God which eminently appeareth in this that Christ hath absolute dominion over the bodies and souls of men yea over Angels both good and bad and over Death and Hell it self Q. Why hath Jesus that power over the bodies and souls of men A. That he may be able to relieve them in all necessities whether corporall or spirituall and because he is appointed Judge of the Quick and Dead and will render to every one according to his works and will exercise judgment according to the very secrets of the hearts Q. Why hath he power over Angels both good and bad A. Over the Good that he may use their Ministry in accomplishing the ends of his Kingdome and assisting his people in all their necessities Over the Evill that he may quell their endeavours and machinations who are wholly set to root out and exterminate all mankind but especially the Faithfull who are to inherit Salvation and that he may employ them when he will either to punish or restrain men who hinder either his honour or his peoples salvation or any way hurt or oppose them Quest VVhy hath he power over Hell and Death Answ That he may be able to restore to life the faithfull after they are swallowed up by death and make them immortall wherefore he is expresly said to have the keyes of Hell and Death Revel 1. 18. Of Christs PRIESTLY Office Q. YOu have explained the Kingly Office of Christ explain now his Priestly Office also A. Although I ought of right to proceed to the explication of the doctrine touching the people of Christ yet for as much as the Priestly office of Christ is nearly linked with his Kingly Office I will first treat thereof The Priestly Office of Christ therefore consisteth herein that as by his Kingly Office he is able to assist us in all our necessities so by his Priestly Office he is willing to doe so and consequently assisteth us And this manner of assisting or giving aid to us is called his Sacrifice Quest Why is this manner of assisting called a Sacrifice Answ Because as under the Old Covenant the High Priest entring into the Holy of Holies did perfect those things that pertained to the expiation of the peoples sins so Christ hath now passed the Heavens that he may there appear before the face of God in our behalf and accomplish all things pertaining to the expiation of our sins Heb. 2. 17. 4. 14. 5. 1. 9. 24. Quest What is the expiation of sins Answ The deliverance from both the temporary and eternall punishments of sinnes and from the very sins themselves that we may no longer serve them Q. How doth Jesus accomplish in Heaven the expiation of our sins A. First he delivereth from the punishments of them whilst by the full and absolute authority which he hath obtained of the Father he doth perpetually defend us and by his intervening in a manner keep off from us the wrath of God which is wont to be poured out upon the ungodly which the Scripture expresseth when it saith that he intercedeth for us Next he delivereth us from the servitude of the sins themselves whilst by the same authority he withdraweth and calleth us away from all kind of sinnes by shewing us in his own person what he shall gain who desisteth from sinning or else by exhorting and warning and helping yea sometimes by punishing us Q. What is the difference between the expiation of the Old and New Covenant A. That of the New is more excellent and that for two reasons chiefly first in that the legall expiation extended onely to such sins as were committed out of ignorance or weaknesse but for greater fins which were manifest transgressions of the Law no sacrifices were appointed but the penalty of death was proposed But if God did remit such sins to any one that was not done by vertue of the Covenant but by the singular Grace of God which God beyond the Covenant exhibited when and to whom he listed But under the New Covenant not only those sins are remitted which have been acted through ignorance and weaknesse but such as are the most open transgressions of the Law of God so that he who hath fallen in that manner do not persevere therein but truly repent and relapse no more into such sins Secondly in that under the Old Covenant the expiation of sins was so made as that the temporary punishment onely was taken away whereas the New Covenant exhibites such an expiation as removeth not only the temporary but the eternall penalties of sins and instead of punishment offereth Eternall Life promised in the Covenant to those whose sins are expiated Q. How do
doubted of none of which hath here any place Q. What are they A. The first is when the Author is altogether unknown the second when the Author is suspected the third when it appeareth from elswhere that the Book is corrupted the fourth when there are sufficient testimonies to impeach the credit of the book Q. Tell me how the first cause hath here no place A. Because from the very beginning of the Christian Religion all Christians though otherwise infinitely differing in opinions amongst themselves did notwithstanding herein unanimously agree that the Authors of the books of the New Covenant were those very men whose names are prefixed to the books so that he who will oppose himself to so unanimous an agreement of so many ages ought to alledge a just and pregnant ground thereof Q. Hath there not been some doubt amongst the Ancients touching some of these Authors A. Yes but inasmuch as they could alledge no just ground of doubting the doubt utterly vanished Q. But how is it that the second cause hath here no place A. An Author is deemed to be of suspected credit if he have not exact cognisance of the thing which he describeth or describeth it otherwise then he knoweth the thing to be or finally if there be some hints therof in the very writing it self but no such thing can be detected in those Authors as you shall in particular understand Q. Why cannot the first be here discovered A. Because no suspition can possibly creep into the mind concerning those Authors as if they had not had exact cognizance of the thing which they described in that some of them were eye and ear-witnesses of the things which they set down and the others were fully and accurately informed by them concerning the same Q. Why cannot the second A. Inasmuch as the Christian Religion doth prohibit lying even in the smallest matter it is clear that those Authors who were not only Christians but also the first Doctors of the Christian Religion could by no means lye especially in a thing of such importance as would draw the whole world into error Q. Why cannot the third A. Because in these books there is no repugnancy no falsity as by an accurate discussion of all the places which seem to make shew of the contrary might easily be made to appear Q. You have shown how two causes of the four have here no place shew also why the third cannot be admitted A. If the third cause had here any place it must be either that those writings have been wholly corrupted or in part They could not be wholly corrupted for then neither would those be the Authors of them whom we a little before proved to have been the Authors But if they were corrupted in part certainly it would either be in those things that are of great moment or in those that are of small moment Not in those things that are of great moment inasmuch as the corrupted part would betray it self by being unsuitable to the uncorrupted ones But if there be any corruption in some things of slight moment that neither is nor ought to be of so great weight as to render the credit of the Books suspected Q. Can you not also prove another way that the writings of the new Covenant have not been corrupted A. Yes for it is altogether incredible that God whose goodnesse and providence are immense hath suffered those writings wherein he hath proposed his Will and the way to eternal life and which through the succession of so many ages have by all the godly been received and approved as such to be any wayes corrupted Q. How will you prove that the fourth cause hath here no place A. You might of your self have observed that already in that there are no fit and sufficient testimonies of credit-worthy men wherewith those writings may be pressed or oppugned Q. Inasmuch as you have taught that there is no cause why it should be doubted concerning the writings of the new Covenant teach likewise why credence should be given to the same A. Although this very thing namely that there is no just cause ●o doubt of them afford a strong argument why credence should be given to them yet will I alledge a most weighty consideration to win your assent Q. What may that consideration be A. Even the truth of the Christian religion which being comprised in those books and no others it is evident that credence must of necessity be given to them Q. But how will you prove to me that the Christian Religion is true A. By the very Author of the Christian Religion who was a divine man and by the very Religion it self which is also divine Q. Whence doth it appear that the Author of the Christian Religion was a man truly divine A. From the truly divine miracles which he wrought As also because having undergone a most bitter death in witnesse of the Religion delivered by him he was by God raised from the dead Q. How know you that he did miracles and that those miracles were divine A. It is evident that he did miracles not only from the testimony of his Disciples but also of his professed enemies such as the Jewes are And that those miracles were divine you will easily acknowledge when I shall have shown that he was raised from the dead by God For since he affirmed that he wrought his miracles by the power of God his Resurrection from the dead putteth the matter out of question and consequently evinceth that his miracles were truly divine Q. Shew therefore that he was raised from the dead by God A. That he was raised from the dead by God is hence apparent first because there were many presently after his death who constantly affirmed that they had seen him raised from the dead and for this very reason because they affirmed him to have been raised from the dead they suffered many calamities and some lost their very lives Again an innumerable multitude of others receiving the same from those that went before did upon the same ground endure very great calamities and most exquisite deaths From whence it followeth necessarily either that Jesus was raised from the dead or that they by constantly affirming a thing which they knew to be false did willingly involve themselves in so many calamities and so bitter deaths The latter could by no means come to passe inasmuch as very common sense doth abundantly refute it And therefore it is apparent that the first is altogether true Q. What other argument hereof have you A. Namely that it is altogether incredible that such a Religion as brings no worldly splendor commodity or pleasure to the Professors thereof but rather robs them of the same casting them into various straits and afflictions should be imbraced by so many Nations had it not beene confirmed by the Resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead Q. You have shown that the Author of the Christian Religion was a divine man I would also
Declare to me what proofes they alledge to evince that Christ created the heaven and the earth A. Even these where it is written That all things were made by him and without him nothing made that was made John 1. 3. And again That the world was made by him verse 10. And again That all things were created by him that are in heaven and that are in earth visible and invisible whether Thrones or Dominions or Principalities or Powers all things were created by him and for him Col. 1. 16. And that God by him made the world Heb. 1. 2. Finally likewise from that passage in the 10 11. and 12. verses of the same chapter namely Thou Lord in the beginning laidst the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of thy hands They shall perish but thou abidest and all shall wax old as a garment and as a vesture shalt thou change them and they shall be changed But thou Lord art the same and thy years shall not fail Q. What answer give you to the first testimony A. In the first testimony the words may be as well rendered all things were done by him as all things were made by him For the Greek word signifieth the one as well as the other although in English there is some difference between being made and being done inasmuch as the propriety of the language admitteth the one many times to be used where the other would not have place Again the Evangelist saith all things were done by him which kind of speaking denotetl not the first but the second cause In fine the word all is not here taken for all things simply and absolutely but is restrained to the subject matter which is a thing most frequent in the Holy Sriptures especially that of the New Covenant a singular example whereof you have 2 Cor. 5. 17. wherein it is treated of a matter altogether like to that which Iohn here speaketh of and it is said that all things are become new when notwithstanding it is certain that there are many things which have not been made new Wherefore since the subject matter in Iohn is the Gospell it appeareth that the word all ought to be understood of all those things which any wayes belong to the Gospel Q. Why did Iohn add that without him nothing was done that hath been done A. The better to illustrate those foregoing words namely all things were done by him which seem to have such force as if all those things had been done by the Word or Son of God onely though some things and those of great moment were not immediately done by him but by his Apostles of which sort is the calling of the Gentiles and the abolition of the legall Ceremonies For though these things had their beginning from the words and deeds of the Lord Jesus yet were they not brought to an issue by Christ himself but by his Apostles yet not without him for the Apostles mannaged all things in his name and by his authority as the Lord himself saith Iohn 15 7. Without me ye can do nothing Q. What say you to the second A. First Iohn doth not here say that the world was created but made by him Again he useth the same form of speech designing the second or middle cause for he saith not that he made the world but that the world was made by him Finally the word world as well as others that are equivalent in the Scriptures doth not only denote the heaven and earth but besides other significations designeth either manking as the present place sheweth where it is said That he was in the world and the world acknowledged him not or the world to come as appeareth from Hebr. 1. 6. where we read that when he bringeth the first-born into the world he saith And let all the Angells of God worship him which is taken of the world to come as appeareth from the second chapter of the same Epistle verse fifth where the Author saith For he hath not put the world to come whereof we speak in subjection to Angells But he no where spake of that world but in the sixth Verse of the former chapter Besides you have another place Hebr. 10. 5. where speaking of Christ he saith Wherefore entring into the world he saith sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not but a body thou hast fitted me Where since it is apparent that the Author speaketh of that world into which Christ being entred became a Priest and made his offering as all the circumstances of the place do shew it must needs be that he speaketh not of this world but of the world to come since in the eighth chapter vers 4. he had said of Christ That if he were on the earth he would not so much as be a Priest Q. What understand you by this expression The world was made by him A. A double sense thereof may be given first that mankind was reformed and as it were made again by Christ because he brought life and immortality to men who were lost and subject to eternall death which thing Iohn upbraideth the world with namely that being vindicated from destruction by Christ yet did it not acknowledge him but despise and reject him For it is the custome of the Hebrew speech that in such forms of speaking the words make and create be equivalent with make anew and create anew inasmuch as that tongue is destitute of compounded verbs The latter sense is that the world to come which we expect by Christ is by him made as to us as the same is said to be come in respect of us although it be already present to Christ and the Angells Q. What say you to the third A. That this testimony also speaketh of Christ as of a second and middle cause and the word Create as in the Scripture used not only of the Old but also of the New Creation an instance whereof you have Eph. 2. 10. For we are his workmanship or making as the Greek hath it created in Christ Jesus unto or rather upon condition of good works And a little after verse 15. For to make in himself of twain one new man in the Greek For to create in himself the twain into one new man Besides that those words all things in the heaven and on the earth are not used for all things simply and absolutely appeareth both by the article in the Greek set before the word all to limit it and also by the collation of the words put a little after in the 20. verse where the Apostle saith That by him God hath reconciled all the things that are both in the heavens and on the earth and finally by the inspection of the very words themselves wherein the Apostle saith not that the heaven and earth were created by Christ but all the things that are in the heavens and on the earth Q. How then understand you this testimony A. That after God had raised Christ from the dead and
tempted From these words likewise it can not be shown that Christ was indeed tempted in the wildernesse For instance should any man say let us not be refractory to the Magistrate as some of our Ancestors were it could not thence be concluded that the same numericall Magistrate is in both places designed Now if there be found in the Scriptures such kinds of speaking wherein the like speech is referred to him whose name was a little before expressed without any repetition of the same person this hap'neth in such a place where no other besides him whose name was expressed can possibly be understood as Deut. 6. 16. Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God as thou temptedst in Massah But in this speech of the Apostle whereof we speak another then Christ may be understood as Moses the Angel c. see Num. 21. 5. Q. From what place prove they that the glory of Christ was seen by Isaiah A. From Iohn 12. 41. These things spake Isaiah when he saw his glory and spake of him Q. What say you hereunto A. First that these words are not of necessity to be referred to Christ inasmuch as they may be referred to God the Father For the words that are set a little before are spoken of the same namely he hath blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts Again the glory which Isaiah saw might be yea was not a present but a future glory For it is proper to Prophets to see the things that are to come Whence likewise they were called Seers 1 Sam. 9. 9. Finally although you understand these words of that glory which was then present and seen by Isaiah yet is it one thing to see one's glory another thing to see himself for in the glory of that one God Isaiah likewise saw the glory of the Lord Christ for the Prophet there saith The earth is full of the glory of the Lord. Which thing was then accomplished when Jesus Christ first appeared to the people of the Jewes and afterwards was preached to the whole world Q. From what testimonies of Scripture do they endeavour to demonstrate that Christ was as they say incarnated A. From Iohn 1. 14. where according to their Translation it is read The Word was made flesh And from Phil. 2. 6 7. Who Christ Jesus being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be equal to God But made himself of no reputation taking upon him the form of a servant being made in the likenesse of men And being found in fashion as a man he humbled himself c. from 1 Tim. 3. 16. Great is the mystery of godliness God was manifested in flesh And frō Heb. 2. 16. For verily he took not on him the nature of Angels but he took on him the seed of Abraham And from 1 Ioh. 4. 3. Every spirit that confesseth Iesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God And lastly from Heb. 10. 5. Wherfore entring into the world he saith Sacrifice offering thou wouldest not but a body hast thou prepared for me Q. What say you to the first testimony A. That it is not there said that God was incarnated or that the divine Nature assumed a humane For it is one thing to say The Word was made flesh another that God was incarnated as they say or that the divine Nature assumed a humane Besides these words The Word or rather the Speech was made flesh may and ought to be thus rendred The Word was flesh Thus the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is rendred verse 6. of this very chapter There was a man sent by God his name John And Luk. 24. 19. Who was a Prophet great in word and deed And these places with sundry others shew that it may be so rendred But that it ought to be so rendred the order of the Evangelists words sufficiently teacheth for it would have been incongruous to have said that the Word was made flesh that is as the adversaries would have it assumed a Humane Nature after he had already spoken those things of the Word which followed the Nativity of Jesus Christ as namely that John the Baptist gave testimony of him that he was in the world that his own received him not that to them who received him he gave power to become the Sons of God Q. How is that to be understood that the Word was flesh A. That he by whom God perfectly revealed his whole will and who had been therefore by John called the Word or Speech was a man of the same constitution with others and subject to the same infirmity afflictions and death For in this sense the Scripture useth the word flesh as appeareth from those places where God saith My spirit shall not alwaies strive with man for that he also is flesh Gen. 6. 3. And Peter out of Isaiah saith All flesh is grasse 1 Pet. 1. 24. Q. What say you to the third A. It is one thing to say that Jesus Christ being in the form of God took the form of a servant and that the Divine Nature assumed a Humane For here the form of God cannot design the Divine Nature in that the Apostle writeth that Christ emptied himself of that form But God can by no means empty himself of his nature Neither doth the form of a servant denote a humane nature since to be a servant is referred to the fortune and condition of a man But neither is it to be concealed that the writings of the New Covenant doth use the word form elswhere but once namely Mark 16. 12. and that in such a sense wherein not the nature but exteriour fashion is signified whilest it saith that Jesus appeared to two of his Disciples in another form Q. But from those words which the Apostle presently after subjoyns namely He was found in fashion of a man doth it not appear that he was as they say incarnated A. At no hand For it is said of Sampson Judg. 16. 7. 11. that if such and such a thing was done to him he should become as a man And Asaph Psa 82. denounceth to those whom he had called Gods Sons of the most high that they should die like men notwithstanding it is certain it cannot be said that they were as the adversaries say incarnated Q. But how do you understand this whole place A. Thus that Christ who conversed in the world as God doing the works of God and receiving divine worship did when God so willed and the salvation of man required become as a servant and vassall and as one of the vulgar men when he of his own accord suffered himself to be bound whipt and crucified Q. What say you to the third A. First that in many ancient copies and in the vulgar Translation the word God is not here found so that nothing certain can be concluded out of this place Again though we read the word God there yet is there no cause why it should not be referred to the Father
since it may of him be affirmed that he was manifested in Christ and the Apostles who were flesh And though it be afterwards according to the vulgar translation read that he was received up into glory yet is it in the Greek he was received in glory that is with glory or gloriously Q. What then is the sense of this place A. That you may the better perceive it I will cite the whole Thus therefore the Apostle sai●h God was manifested in flesh was justified in spirit was seen of Angels was preached to the Gentiles was believed in the world was received in glory The meaning of all which is this The Christian Religion is full of mysteries For God that is the divine Will touching the salvation of men was perfectly discovered by weak and mortall men and yet notwithstanding by reason of the miracles wrought by the spirit in confirmation of the Gospel it was acknowledg'd for true The same was at length perceived by the Angels themselves preached not only to the Jews but also to the Gentiles and not only generally believed but entertained with the greatest glory and magnificence Q. What say you to the fourth A. In it there is not so much as a resemblance of an Incarnation since the divine Author doth not say took but taketh nor humane nature but the seed that is the posterity of Abraham And indeed to shew the invalidity of the argument taken from this place there needs no more then to consult the various reading of the English Translators set in the margin Q. What then is the sense of this place A. The meaning of the Author is that Christ is not the Saviour of Angels but men who being subject to afflictions leath which thing he before exprest by the participation of flesh bloud therfore Christ of his own accord submitted himself to the same that he might free the faithfull from the fear of death and succour them in all their afflictions Q. What say you to the fifth A. Here likewise is nothing to assert the incarnation as they term it For wheras it is read in the ordinary Bibles Every spirit that confesseth Jesus to be come in the flesh is of God The Greek hath it Every spirit that confesseth Iesus Christ come in flesh or Every spirit that confesseth Iesus come in flesh to be Christ That is Every spirit is of God that confesseth Iesus who discharged his Embassie on the earth without any worldly pomp ostentation in the most humble manner as to his outward presence with the greatest contempt finally indured a most ignominious death to be the Christ or King of the people of God Q. VVhat say you to the sixth A. Here also is no mention of any Incarnation since the world whereinto this Author here saith that Christ entred to performe his offering is as hath been formerly shown the vvorld to come Whence to enter into the world doth not here signifie to be born but to passe into the heaven Again by body in those words A body hast thou prepared me may be understood an immortall one Q. What then is the sense of the place A. That God while Jesus was entring into heaven furnished him with such a body as was very suitable fit to discharge his Priestly Office Q. You have hitherto explained the places of Scripture from whence they endeavour to prove that which is not found there I entreat you therefore now to alledge those places from whence they draw wrong conclusions A. The Scriptures from whence they draw their wrong conclusions either directly concern Christ or are referred to him by a certain accommodation Q. What are those that directly have respect to Christ A. They are such wherein Christ is called either a God or one with God or equall to God or the Son of the living God or the proper or only begotten Son of God or the first born of every creature or having all things that the Father hath or the Father of eternity or the Word of God or the Image of the Invisible God or the Character of his substance or he who being seen the Father is seen or in whom the fulnesse of Deity dwelleth bodily or that had glory with the Father before the world was or whose Spirit was in the Prophets or that came down from heaven came out from the Father and came into the world was sent by the Father into the world or the only Lord Lord of Glory King of Kings Lord of Lords and to whom Faith and divine honor pertaineth Q. In what places of the Scripture is the word God attributed to Christ A. Joh. 1. 1. The Word was a God And c. 20. 28. Thomas saith to Christ My Lord and my God And Rō 9. 5. writeth that Christ is a God over all to be blessed for evermore Q. What say you to these passages A. That it cannot from thence be demonstrated that Christ had as the adversaries speak a Divine Nature may to omit what hath been formerly spoken be made appear from hence namely that it is spoken in the first testimony touching such a word as was with God In the second Thomas calleth him his God in whose hands and feet he found the prints of the nails and in his side the print of the spear And Paul saith that he who was of the Fathers according to the flesh was over all a God to be blessed for evermore All which it is cleer cannot possibly be said of him that is God by Nature For from the first it would follow that there are two Gods whereof the one was with the other As for the other twain namely to have the prints of wounds and to be of the Fathers do altogether pertain to a man which that they should be ascribed to him that is God by Nature is very absurd But if any one to cloak the businesse pretend the distinction of Natures we have formerly removed that and taught that this distinction is not to be endured Q. Where doth the Scripture teach that Christ is one with the Father A. John 10. 29. 30. Where the Lord saith The Father that gave me the sheep is greater then all and none can snatch them out of the Fathers hand I and my Father are one Q. What say you to this proof A. When it is said that Christ is one with the Father it cannot be thence evinced that he is one with him in Nature as the words of Christ himself spoken to the Father about the Disciples to demonstrate see Jo. 17. 11. Father keep them in thy name whom thou hast given to me that they may be one as we are one And afterwards v. 22 The glory which thou hast given me have I given them that they may be one as we are one Now that Christ is one with the Father this ought to be taken of unity or onenesse in will or power as to the businesse of mans Salvation Yea that the Divine Nature of Christ
first and the last the same is read of Christ Revelat. 1. v. 17. Fourthly Isaiah 35. vers 4 5 6. God himself shall come and save us then shall the eyes of the blind and ears of the deaf be opened then shall the lame leap like a hart and the tongue of dumb shall be loosed which things are repeated of Christ Mat. 11. 5. Fiftly Zac. 12. 10. And they shall look upon me whom they have pierced which John chap. 19. 37. attributeth to Christ Sixthly Psal 68. 19. Thou hast ascended on high and led captivity captive and received gifts for men which same is repeated of Christ Ephes 4. 8. From all which testimonies they argue thus in as much as those things which were spoken of God under the Law are spoken also of Christ under the Gospel It appeareth that Christ is the God of Israel and consequently God by nature Q. What answer you hereunto A. It may be so answered to all these passages that it may be apparent that the divine nature of Christ cannot thence be collected for what things are spoken of God under the Law may for another reason be spoken of Christ under the Gospel as they are indeed spoken namely for the great and intimate conjunction between God and Christ in respect of dominion power and office all which the Scripture of the new covenant every where testifieth that Christ hath obtained by the donation of God now if the Scripture deliver such things of Moses as that he brought Israel out of Egypt Exod 32. 7. and that he was the redeemer of that people Acts 7. 35. and so of others the very same things that are elsewhere written of God himself when in the mean time neither Moses nor those others had so great conjunction with God as intervened between him and Christ much more deservedly may these things which are primarily spoken of God be accommodated to Christ by reason of that most singular and strict conjunction that is between them Q. I perceive that Christ hath not a divine nature but is a true man now tell me of what avail unto salvation the knowledge hereof will be Answer From the knowledge of this that Christ is a true man a sure and well grounded confirmation of our hope doth follow which by the contrary opinion is exceedingly shaken and almost taken away Q. How so An. Because it followeth from the adverse opinion that Christ is not a true man for since they deny that there is in Christ the person of a man who seeth that they with one and the same labour deny him to be a true man in that he cannot be a true man who wanteth the person of a man but if Christ had not been a true man he could not dye and consequently not rise again from the dead whereby our hope which resteth on the resurrection of Christ as on a firm basis and foundation may be easily shaken and well nigh thrown down but that opinion which acknowledgeth Christ to be a true man who conversing in the world was obedient to the Father even unto death doth assert and clearly determine that the same died and was by God raised from the dead and indued with immortality and so in a wonderfull manner supporteth and proppeth our hope concerning eternall life setting before our eyes the very image of that thing and assuring us thereby as it were with a pledge that we also though we be mortall and dye shall notwithstanding in due time rise from death to come into the society of the same blessed immortality whereof he is made partaker if we tread in his steps Question I understand the things pertaining to the person of Christ proceed I intreat you to his office Answer Very well you must know that the Office of Christ consisteth in being our Prophet King and Priest Question Where is he called a Prophet in the Scriptures Answer There is a singular testimony hereof cited by power Acts 3. verse 22. out of Moses Who said to the Fathers the Lord your God shall raise up a prophet to you out of the middest of your brethren like unto me him shall you hear according to all the things whatsoever he shall speak unto you Deut. 18. 18. Question Wherein consisteth his propheticall office Answer In perfectly manifesting and confirming the will of God to men Question Whence appeareth it that Christ hath perfectly manifested the will of God to men Answer From hence namely in that Jesus himself did in the most perfectest manner learn it of God in the heavens and was magnificently sent from thence to publish it unto men and did accordingly declare it unto them which is most apparent from those appellations that in the Scripture are attributed to him whilst it calleth him the VVord or Speech of God the Image of the Invisible God the Brightnesse of the Glory or the Image of the Person or Substance of God and whilest it affirmeth that the whole fulnesse of the God-head or of Diety doth dwell in him bodily that is the who I will of God is intirely and solidly discovered in the doctrine of Christ Q. VVhence is it written that Christ was in heaven and was sent down from thence A. Joh. 6. 38. I came down from heaven not to do my own will but the will of him that sent me and lo what if you should see the son of man ascending where he was before and Chap. 3. 13. No man hath ascended into heaven but he that descended from heaven the son of man who is or rather was in heaven and below vers 31. he that came from above is above all he that is or rather was from the earth is earthly in the Greek is of the earth and speaketh of the earth he that came from heaven is above all And what he hath seen and heard that he testifieth and Chap. 8. 40. Now you seek to kill me a man who hath told you the truth which I have heard from God and below v. 42. If God were your Father you would love me for I came out from God and am come for neither did I come of my self but he sent me and chap. 13. 3. Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands and that he came out from God and goeth away to God and chap. 16. 27 28 30. Ye have belived that I came out from God I came out from the father and came into the world again or rather on the contrary I leave the world and go to the Father now we know that thou knowest all things and needest not that one ask the hereby we believe that thou camest out from God and chap. 17. 8. And they have known indeed that I came from thee and have believed that thou sentest me and if any man have a desire to know when Christ was in heaven with God the same Evangelist shal tell him that he was in the beginning with God Joh. 1. 2. namely when the Gospel first began to
Eternall Death But how could Christ by his own example have moved the Faithfull to persist in that singular Piety and innocency without which they cannot be sayed had he not tasted of a bitter death which is easily wont to attend true Piety Or how could he have had a fellow-feeling of the calamities and sufferings of the Faithfull and so become the more ready to help them unlesse himself had tryed how grievous and of themselves intolerable to humane nature they are first of these is hinted by Peter 1 Epist 2. 21. Christ suffered for us leaving us an example that we should follow his steps The latter by the Divine Authour to the Hebrews chap. 2. 18. Christ in that he suffered being tempted is able to succour them that are tempted And chap. 4. 15. He can have a fellow-feeling of our infirmities having been tempted in all things after the same manner without sin Quest Could not God cause that the Faithfull should not be subject to afflictions and violent deaths Answ He could indeed if he would change the nature and condition of things But God is not wont to do this unlesse sometimes and that very seldome and in some speciall cases and for a time but not alwayes and commonly as it would here be very behoovefull had he a mind to exempt the Faithfull from afflictions and violent deaths Quest Why was that altogether necessary Answ Because the Faithfull in Christ are indued with singular Piety and Innocency of life neither is it lawfull for them to avenge themselves on any one The first whereof naturally exposeth them to the hatred of all wicked men which make the greatest part of mankinde whereby it cometh to passe that they grievously afflict the Faithfull and if an occasion be offered inflict death upon them The latter is a greater incitement to the wicked and affordeth them an opportunity to effect and accomplish their cruell designes upon the Faithfull Q. But how did the Bloud or Death of Christ confirm the Divine will to us A. Two wayes first because it ascertained us of the exceeding great love of God towards us so that he is thereby engaged to make good what he hath promised us in the New Covenant whence it is called the Blood of the New Covenant Mat. 26. 28. And the Bloud of sprinkling that is of federation Heb. 9. 19 20. which speaketh better things then that of Abel Heb. 12. 24 25. And Christ himself is called the true and faithfull Witnesse Rev. 1. 5. and chap. 3. 14. Next because being followed with a resurrection to Eternall Life it maketh us sure that we also if we obey the commandments of the Lord Jesus Christ shall be partakers of the same Resurrection Q. Explain more largely in what manner we are by the Resurrection of Christ which was a consequent of his death assured of our own Resurrection A. First because we have a pattern thereof proposed to us in the Resurrection of Christ whereby we are forbidden to doubt that those who out of Piety towards God suffer death shall afterwards be delivered of it again Next because it is now put out of question that Christ hath attained such power as that he can confer upon the Faithfull Eternall Life For the resurrection of Christ following upon his Death was such a one as that he thereby obtained all power in Heaven and Earth Mat. 28. 18. Q. How doth the power of Christ which he hath obtained by the intervening of his death make us more certain then if he wanted that power A. Two wayes first because we now see a beginning of fulfilling the promises of God especially of that wherein he expresly promised that Christ himself should deliver us from death and give unto us Eternall Life Next because we likewise see that the power of fulfilling the promise of God made to us touching Eternall Life is put in his hands who is not ashamed to call us brethren and who tasted all those afflictions whereunto we must be exposed if we will obey God and therefore knoweth how to be pitifull to us and touched with a fellow-feeling of our infirmities as we formerly discoursed of this thing Q. Hence I perceive that in the businesse of our Salvation greater stresse is laid upon the resurrection of Christ then upon his death A. It is altogether so for so the Scripture it self speaketh of this matter see Rom. 5. 10. If when we were enemies we were reconciled unto God by the death of his Son how much more being reconciled shall we be saved by his Life And again Rom. 8. 34. who shall condemn us it is Christ that dyed yea rather that rose again who is also at the right hand of God who also maketh intercession for us And again 1 Cor. 15. 17. If Christ be not risen from the Dead your Faith is vain ye are yet in your sins And again Rom. 4. 25. Christ was delivered for our Sins and rose again for our Justification Q. Why doth the Scripture so frequently elsewhere ascribe these things to the death of Christ A. Because death was the way to Resurrection and exaltation of Christ so that according to the Decree of God he could not without it arrive to his Power and Dignity Again because of all the things that God and Christ did for our Salvation the death of Christ doth chiefly shew unto us and set before our eyes the transcendent love of God and Christ towards us Q. Is there not some other cause of the death of Christ A. None at all although Christians at this day commonly think that Christ by his death merited Salvation for us and fully satisfied for our sins Which opinion is fallacious erroneous and very pernicious Q. How so A. As to the fallaciousnesse and errour thereof the case is clear not only because the Scripture is silent concerning any such thing but also because it is repugnant both to Scripture and reason Q. Demonstrate this in an orderly manner A. That this opinion is not set down in the Scriptures is apparent in that the maintainers thereof do never alledge clear and evident Texts to prove it but knit together I know not what consequences whereby they endeavour to confirm their tenet which consequences as they are to be admitted when they necessarily flow from the Scriptures so ought they to be esteemed of no force when they are repugnant to the Scriptures Q. How are they repugnant to the Scriptures A. In as much as the Scriptures every where testifie that God freely forgiveth sins especially under the New Covenant 2 Cor. 5. 19. Rom. 3. 24 25. Ephes 1. 7. Col. 1. 14. Mat. 18. 23. c. But nothing is more repugnant to free forgivenesse then full satisfaction For that Creditor which is satisfied either by the debtor himself or by some other in his behalf cannot be truly said to have freely out of his meer grace forgiven the debt as at first hearing is apparent to every man Q. How is
touching the Predestination of God is altogether erroneus and that for two reasons chiefly whereof the one is that it would bring all Religion to ruine the other that it would charge God with many absurd yea horrid things Q. But how would the admission of this opinion bring Religion to ruine A. Because all the things pertaining to Religion and Piety would be in us necessarily and unavoidably and if so to what purpose were it to labour and endeavour that we might be pious For all endeavour and diligence is there superfluous where all things come to passe necessarily as reason it self sheweth But if the endeavour and study of Religion and Piety be taken away Religion and Piety it self must needs be taken away together Q. VVhat absurd and horrid things will be attributed to God if this opinion be admitted A. They are foure in number 1. Justice For it would be manifestly unjust to punish one for not doing what he was unable to do But when God punisheth the impious and disobedient what else doth he then punish them who do not what they are unable to do For if the opinion of the Adversaries be true they by reason of the immutable decree of God cannot possibly become pious and obedient 2. Hypocrisie joyned with deceit For God having excluded already the greatest part of them to whom the Gospel is declared from salvation by his decree doth notwithstanding offer salvation unto all and so doth one thing and maketh shew of another which is the property of Hypocrites and deceivers And which is worse God doth in such a thing wherein another is exceedingly circumvented and hurt 3. Great imprudence for God would seem to take care and endeavour that which he certainly knoweth cannot come to passe But what is more foolish and light then to make a shew as if you earnestly endeavoured to effect that which you know certainly cannot be done and so to expose your self to scorn 4. Pravity in that God would be the author of sin For since it is altogether necessary that sin should go before damnation certainly he that decrees a man shall be of necessity damned decrees also that he shal of necessity sin Q. How do they go about to prove that opinion of theirs concerning Predestination A. By certain testimonies of the scripture wherein this is the chiefest Rom. 8. 28 29 30. And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God to them who are the called according to his purpose For whom he did foreknow he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his son that he might be the first born among many brethren Moreover whom he did predestinate them he also calleth and whom he hath called them he also justifyeth and whom he hath justified them he also glorifieth Q. What answer give you to this testimony A. That you may the better understand that Testimony and the like I must first declare to you what the scripture meaneth by Predestination Election and Vocation or Calling Q. I would fain have you explain that A. The Predestination of God in the scriptures signifieth no other thing then such a decree of his concerning men before the foundation of the world that to those who would believe in him and be obedient to him he would give eternall life and punish them with eternal death and damnation who would refuse to believe in him and be obedient to him which thing is apparent in that Christ the perfect Interpreter of the divine will hath so expounded to us this counsel and decree of God saying that he that believeth on him shall be saved but he that believeth not shall be damned Mark 16. 16. Q. VVhat say you of Election A. Election when the Scripture speaketh of our Salvation hath a double signification for sometimes those that assent to the Gospel preached are said to be Elected of God but sometimes also they who do not onely assent to the Gospel but lead their lives according to the prescript thereof are called elect An example of the first signification you have 1 Cor. 1. 26 27. You see your calling brethren that not many wise men according to the flesh not many Potent not many noble but God hath chosen the foolish things of this world that he might shame the wise and God hath chosen the weak things of the world that he might shame the strong where election and vocation are taken for the same thing An example of the latter you have Matt. 22. 14. where Christ saith That many called but few chosen But you have an example of both in those words of Peter 2 Epist 1. 10 11. Endeavour to making your calling and election sure that is by good works as some coppies have it Q. VVhat say you of Vocation A. Vocation when it is referred to our salvation hath the same signification with Election as appeareth by the quoted places Q. But how do you make answer to the aforesaid testimonies A. This testimony maketh nothing for that Predestination which the Adversaries have devised For they hold a predestination without any regard of good works whereas Paul here speaketh of such a predestination as hath regard to those that love God and demonstrateth that afflictions do not hurt such men but rather help them for good Now he saith of them that they are called according to the purpose to shew that they at length have believed the Gospell according to the purpose of God and are predestinated to salvation who love God But we have before shewn that that is in mans power Q. I would therefore intreat you to expound the place to me A. The plain meaning is this The Apostle sheweth that all afflictions cooperate for good to them who love God and have believed the Gospell of Christ Which he proveth in this manner namely in that they are predestinated to all those things which it behooved the Lord Christ himself to suffer Now as those things could not stop his passage to Eternall Life so neither can it stop theirs Which when the Apostle had demonstrated he describeth certain degrees whereby men attain unto Eternall Life shewing that God doth by the preaching of the Gospell gather them into his Church whom he hath predestinated to be conformable to the image of his son in afflictions and immortality and then justifieth them being freed from all their sinne and finally doth in a more perfect way designe them to Eternall Life and Immortality Q. What are those testimonies whereby they think that Free-will is expresly taken away A. They pertain either to all or to certain persons Quest Which are they that pertain to all A. Amongst others they are these It is not of him that willeth nor of him that runneth but of God that sheweth mercy Rom. 9. 16. No man cometh to me unlesse the Father that sent me draw him John 6. 44. They believed as many as were ordained to Eternall Life Act. 13. 48. Q. What say you to the
the believing Jewes as the Jewes to the believing Gentiles For thus we read God therefore who knoweth the heart gave testimony unto them that is the Gentiles having imparted the Holy Spirit unto them as also unto us Jewes neither hath he put a difference between us and them having purified their hearts by Faith And now why tempt ye God to put a yoke meaning the Law of Moses on the necks of the Disciples that is the Gentiles which neither we nor our Fathers were able to bear Yea by the Grace of the Lord Jesus c. Neither is it any impediment to this interpretation that word Fathers is nearer then the word Disciples as we have formerly shewn from the places which we alledged on a like occasion Also neither is that of any moment that the word they is of the Masculine and the Word Gentiles in the Greek of the Neuter gender for the word Gentiles is elsewhere found in the Scripture either joyned with a masculine gender or related thereunto vide Mat. 28. 19. But if this will not be here admitted we say that the word they is commodiously referred to the word Disciples going before which is of the masculine gender Of Christs KINGLY Office Q. I Have perceived all things pertaining to the Prophetick Office of Christ proceed I pray you to his other Offices namely the Kingly and Priestly A. Thus then the Kingly Office of Christ falleth under a two-fold consideration both of the Kingdome it self and of the people subject thereunto Q. VVhat is the consideration of the Kingdom it selfe A. Namely that God hath placed Christ being raised from the dead and taken up into Heaven at his right Hand having given to him all power both in Heaven and on Earth and put all things in subjection under his feet that he might govern defend and Eternally save those that believe in him Quest Where are these things extant Answ The Scripture is full of them but the Apostle Paul giveth a singular attestation thereunto Ephes 1. 19 20. c. where he saith that God the Father put forth the exceeding greatnesse of his power when he raised Jesus Christ from the dead and set him at his right hand in the Heavenly places far above all Principality and Authority and force and Lordship and every name that is named not onely in this world but in the world to come c. and the Apostle Peter Act. 5. 30 31. saith that the God of their Fathers had raised up Jesus whom the Jewes had slain hanging him on a tree And that he had exalted him to be a Prince and Saviour to give Repentance and Remission of sins to Israel Q But the Adversaries say that Christ raised himself Answ They are exceedingly mistaken since the Scripture saith manifestly in infinite places that God the Father of Christ raised him from the dead Which is so true that the writings of the New Covenant in many places not expressing the Name of God doe thus describe him He that raised Jesus Christ from the dead Rom. 4. 24. chap. 8. 11. Q. How cometh it to passe that they hold such an opinion A. They think it is hinted in some passages of the Scripture as when Christ John 2. 19. saith Destroy this Temple and in three dayes I will raise it up And afterwards John 10. 17 18. Therefore the Father loveth me because I lay down my life that I may take it again None taketh it from me but I lay it down of my self I have power to lay it down and power to take it again And Peter 1 Epist 3. 18. Christ once suffered the just for the unjust that he might bring us to God being mortified in the Flesh but quickned in the Spirit Q. What answer you to the first Answ First I answer that so few obscure and figurative places ought not to be opposed to so many and perspicuous ones so that a few obscure places should explain many perspicuous ones but rather the few and obscure places should be interpreted according to the tenour of the many and perspicuous ones Again as to the first testimony the sense may be that Christ being brought again from the dead should raise up or erect his Body namely when God had put life again into it But indeed in such figurative expressions not so much the words in particular as the sense is to be attended especially if the obvious and literall sense seem to contain in it somewhat that is false and repugnant to other places of the Scripture Yet neverthelesse if any man will obstinately urge that expression I will raise it up let him consider first that the Scripture is wont to say a man doth a thing which he onely causeth to be done or is the occasion thereof thus Jeremy chap. 38. 23. saith to Zedekiah Thou shalt be taken by the hand of the King of Babylon and thou shalt burn this City with fire for so the Hebrew context hath it And John 12. 25. He that hateth his life or rather soul in this world shall keep it unto Eternall life Yet neither did Zedekiah if you speak properly burn the City nor doe those that suffer death for the Word of God properly keep their Soul Secondly in as much as the Jewes demand of Christ that he should doe a Signe it was necessary that he should so shape his answer as if he himself were to doe the thing he speaketh of otherwise he had not so oppositely answered them yet that his words might carry a sufficient intimation that he himself should not properly do the work it is observable that in the Greek he omits the particle I saying onely 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which had it been inserted would have clearly shewn that he had truly raised himself though even then it could not have been thence firmly collected that he did it by his own power and consequently was the most High God Quest How thence is the place to be understood Answ As if Christ should say though you take me out of the way yet shall I after three dayes be raised from the dead and restored which will be a clear signe that I was sent by God Q What say you to the second A. This speech doth not prove that Christ when he was dead had some power in him to raise himself since we read of believers that power is given to them to become the Children of God that is immortall though it be certain that God enduing them with immortality will make them his sons John 1. 12. so that the meaning of the passage is this I have power to lay down my life because I have received this commandment from my Father whose command giveth sufficient power and authority for the doing of any thing I have also power or right or priviledge as the Greek will bear to take it or receive it as the Greek may also be rendred because the Father hath promised that if I lay down my
it repugnant to reason A. In that it would hence follow that Christ hath undergone Eternall Death if he had satisfied God for our sins since it is clear that the punishment which men deserved by their sins was Eternall death Again it would follow that we were more beholden to Christ then to God as who had shewed exceeding favour towards us in making satisfaction whereas God by exacting fully what was due to him had shewn no grace at all towards us Q. Tell me also how this Opinion is pernicious A. Because it openeth a gap to licentiousnesse or at least inviteth them to sloth in the pursuance of Holinesse and Vertue whereas the Scripture testifieth that this among others was the end of Christs death that we might be redeemed from all iniquity redeemed from our vain conversation received by Tradition from our Fathers delivered out of this evill world and have our consciences cleansed from dead works to serve the Living God Tit. 2. 14. 1 Pet. 1. 18. Gal. 1. 4. Heb. 9. 14. Q. But how doe they maintain this Opinion A. First they endeavour to maintain it by reason next by authority of Scripture Q. What is their reason A. They say that there is in God by nature both Justice and Mercy and as it belongeth to Mercy to forgive sins so is it the property of Justice to punish them Now in as much as God would have both his Justice and his Mercy take place he found out such a way as that Christ should suffer death in our stead and to satisfie to Justice of God in that nature which had offended God Q. What answer make you to this Reason A. This reason is plausible in shew but in deed hath neither truth nor solidity in it self For though we confesse and exceedingly rejoyce that our God is wonderfully mercifull and just yet we deny that such mercy and justice as the Adversaries would here have is in him by nature For that mercy is not so in God by Nature as they imagine is evident because he could not then punish any sin at all and on the contrary were that Justice in God ●y nature as they suppose he could not forgive any sin at all In as much as God can never do any thing repugnant to those properties that are in him by nature For instance since wisdome is in God by nature God never doth any thing contrary thereunto but whatsoever he doth he doth it wisely But since it is evident that God forgiveth sins and punisheth them when he pleaseth it appeareth that such a Justice and Mercy as they imagine is not in him by nature but are only effects of his will Besides that Justice whereby God punisheth sins and which the Adversaries oppose to Mercy is never called by this name in the Scriptures but anger or fury Yea it is attributed to the Justice or righteousnesse of God in the Scriptures that he forgiveth sins see 1 John 1. 9. Rom. 3. 25. 26. Quest What is your opinion concerning this matter Answ That for as much as that Justice and Mercy which the Adversaries speak of are not in God by nature there was no need at all of that temperament and reconciling of the Justice and Mercy in God which they have devised We doe not indeed deny that there is a certain naturall Justice in God but that is such a Justice as is called rectitude and opposed to pravity And this indeed appeareth in all the works of God whence they are all just and right and perfect and that no lesse when he forgiveth sinnes then when he punisheth them Quest What are the passages of Scripture whereby they endeavour to confirm their opinion A. Such as say that he dyed for us or for our sins and that he redeemed us or gave himself or Soul as a ransome for many and that he is our Mediatour and reconciled us to God and is a propitiation for our sins finally they fetch an Argument from the Sacrifices under the Law which did shadow forth the Death of Christ Quest What answer you here unto Answ The satisfaction of Christ cannot be proved from such places wherein it is said that he dyed for us for the same Scripture saith that we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren 1 John 3. 16. and that Paul suffered for the Colossians and filled up that which was behind of the afflictions of Christ for his Body which is the Church Col. 1. 24. But it is certain that neither doe the Faithfull satisfie for the Brethren neither did Paul for the Church Quest What is the meaning of those words that Christ dyed for us Answ This expression for us doth not signifie in our stead but on our behalf as the like words intimate when the Scripture saith that Christ dyed for our sins which manner of speech cannot mean in the stead or room of our sins but by reason of or on the behalf of our sins Wherefore the meaning of that expression Christ dyed for us amounteth to thus much that he therefore dyed that we might both imbrace and obtain that life which he brought from Heaven and promulgated to the world which in what manner it is effected you heard a little before Quest What answer you to those testimonies wherein it is said that we are redeemed by Christ Answ From the word redemption the satisfaction cannot be evinced in that it is said of God himself in the Scripture that he redeemed his people out of Aegypt Isaiah 29. 22. And wrought redemption for his people Psal 31. 6. as also that Moses was a Redeemer Act. 7. 35. and that we are redeemed from our iniquities and vain conversation or the curse of the Law Tit. 2. 14. 1 Pet. 1. 18. Gal. 3. 13. But it is certain that neither God nor Moses satisfied any one nor can either our iniquities or vain conversation or the Law be satisfied Q. What force think you those words carry when it is said that Jesus redeemed us and gave himself a ransome for us A The word Redemption doth here signifie nothing but freedome Now it is said of Christ that he by his Bloud or Death hath redeemed or freed us because by the intervening thereof we have obtained freedome both from the sins themselves that we should no longer serve them and from the punishment of them that being delivered out of the jaws of Eternall Death as we might live for ever Q. Why that freeing of us expressed by the word Redemption A. Because there is a great similitude between our deliverance and a redemption properly so called For as in a proper redemption there must be a captive and he that detaineth him and a redeemer together with a ransome or price of redemption so in our deliverance Man is the Captive Sin the World the Devill and Death they that detain the Captive God and Christ the redeemer of the Captive and Christ or the Soul of Christ given to the Death the ransome or price of
Redemption the difference onely lyeth herein that in this redemption of ours there is none that receiveth any thing by way of ransome which must of necessity come to passe in a true Redemption Quest VVhy doth the holy Spirit rather make use of a Methaporicall expression then of a proper one Answ Both because this Metaphoricall expression was already in most frequent use in the Old Covenant as also because the great love labour and cost of God and Christ is more elegantly set off thereby for a deliverance may possible happen without cost or love but so great a redemption could not be effected without great cost and love Quest What say you to this that Christ is a Mediatour between God and Men or of the New Covenant Answ Since we also read in the Scripture that Moses was a Mediatour namely between God and the people of the Old Covenant Gal. 3. 19. neither doth it any wayes appear that he satisfied God it cannot be certainly collected from Christs being a Mediatour of God and Men that he made any satisfaction to God for our sins Q. Why doth the Scripture attribute to Christ the name of a Mediatour A. Because he made in the Name of God a New and Eternall Covenant with Men and declared to us the whole Will of God whereby we have an accesse to God Q. What say you to this that Christ reconciled us to God A. First it is no where said in Scripture that God was reconciled to us by Christ but onely that we by Christ or his death were reconciled to God as you may see in all the places wherein mention is made of this reconciliation as Rom. 5. 10. 2 Cor. 5. 19 20. Ephes 2. 16. So that such a satisfaction cannot thence be evinced yea the opinion of the adversaries is rather clearly refuted thereby Quest VVhat think you of this reconciliation Answ That Christ shewed to us who by reason of our sins were enemies of God and alienated from him a way how we might be converted to him and so reconciled Quest VVhat say you to Christs bearing our sinnes Answ The satisfaction cannot be asserted from hence because it is said of God himself Exod. 34. 7. and Numb 14. 18. according to the Hebrew context That he sheweth mercy to thousands and beareth iniquity and sins which in our Translation is rendred forgiveth iniquity and sins And Moses Levit. 10. 16 17. saith to the sons of Aaron wherefore have ye not eaten the sin-offering in the Holy-place seeing it is most Holy and God hath given it you to bear the iniquity of the Congregation to make attonement for them before the Lord. And Numb 18. 1. the Lord saith to Aaron Thou and thy sons and thy Fathers house with thee shall bear the iniquity of the Sanctuary and thou with thy sons with thee shall bear the iniquity of your Priesthood And Mat. chap. 8. 17. saith expresly that when Christ cured many diseases among the people then was that fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah He took our infirmities and bore our diseases Isai 53. 4. Neverthelesse neither did God nor the sons of Aaron or Aaron himself satisfie for the sins and iniquities of any nor Christ for the diseases of men Quest What therefore is the meaning of these words Answ That Christ took away from us both our sins and the punishment of them as perfectly as if he had born them on his own Body or carryed them away into a far Country as the Scripture elsewhere saith that he is the Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world John 1. 29. and that he was once offered that he might bear or take away sins of many Heb. 9. 21. Quest What say you to this that Christ is called a propitiation 1 John 2. 2. Answ The satisfaction is not necessarily concluded hence because the Scripture saith that God himself proposed Christ as a propitiation Rom. 3. 25. As also because the cover of the Ark is called a propitiation or propitiatory Heb. 9. 5. where in the Greek you have the same word that is found in the foregoing place of the Romans But it is evident that it did not satisfie God Finally it is one thing to satisfie another thing to propitiate appease or make favourable since he that is appeased or made favourable may remit and abate much of his right whereas he that is satisfied abateth nothing Q. But what is your opinion concerning this thing A. That God did and doth in a wonderfull manner yeild himself propitious and favourable to us in Christ and hath by him revealed to us all the things that he would have us know especially when he delivered his son to death whence the Apostle in the forequoted place added these words by his Bloud Q. What answer you to those testimonies wherein it is delivered that by the sacrifices of the Old Covenant the death of Christ was figured and shadowed forth Answ First we must know that not all the Sacrifices of the Old Covenant figured the death of Christ but only the killing of that Beast which every year was slain and with whose bloud the High-priest went into the Holy of Holies Which killing as it was not the Sacrifice it self but a certain preparation thereunto and an inchoation thereof but the Sacrifice it self was then performed when the High-priest entred with the Bloud into the Holy of Holies so also the death of Christ was not his Sacrifice but a preparation thereunto and inchoation thereof but the sacrifice it self was then performed when Christ entred into the Heaven itself whereof you shall here more anon Besides although those Sacrifices had shadowed forth the death of Christ yet doth it not thence follow tha God was by the death of Christ satisfied for our sins since the Scripture no where testifieth that those Sacrifices had such power as to satisfie God for sins And yet it is necessary that between the Figure and thing Figured there should be some similitude and proportion Q. What think you of those Sacrifices A. That by them the sins of the people were expiated or attoned that is by the intervening of those Sacrifices the remission of sins graciously decreed by God was brought to effect CHAP. IX Of Faith Q. I Have understood those things which Gods part pertain to the New Covenant explain these also which on our part seeme to belong to the same A. That which on our part belongeth to the New Covenant is Faith on our Lord Jesus Christ Q. What is Faith on our Lord Jesus Christ A. This Faith is in the Scripture set forth under a double consideration sometimes it noteth that Faith which is not necessarily attended with Salvation sometimes that which is so attended Q. What is that Faith which is not necessarily attended with Salvation A. It is a bare assent to the Doctrine of Christ as true which that it is not of necessity attended with Salvation appeareth from the example of those Rulers John 12.