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A10170 The other parte of Christian questions and answeares which is concerning the sacraments, writte[n] by Theodore Beza Vezelian: to which is added a large table of the same questions. Translated out of Latine into Englishe by Iohn Field.; Quaestionum et responsionum Christianarum libellus. Pars altera. English Bèze, Théodore de, 1519-1605.; Fielde, John, d. 1588. 1580 (1580) STC 2045; ESTC S109027 101,745 336

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say_v i_o baptise_v thou_o or_o whither_o let_v the_o servant_n of_o christ_n be_v baptize_v it_o make_v no_o matter_n so_o that_o the_o form_n of_o the_o action_n itself_o which_o they_o exercise_v be_v keep_v but_o notwithstanding_o that_o i_o may_v speak_v plain_o as_o the_o matter_n be_v the_o form_n keep_v in_o the_o latin_a church_n seem_v unto_o i_o to_o come_v more_o near_o to_o the_o commandment_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o to_o be_v more_o fit_n to_o confirm_v the_o faith_n of_o he_o which_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v question_n why_o so_o answer_n because_o the_o minister_n speak_v of_o himself_o when_o he_o say_v in_o the_o first_o person_n i_o baptise_v and_o then_o add_v the_o pronoune_n thou_o do_v make_v the_o mind_n of_o he_o which_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v more_o attentive_a aswell_o to_o mark_v the_o outward_a action_n as_o though_o god_n himself_o be_v present_a do_v the_o self_n same_o thing_n by_o himself_o which_o the_o minister_n witness_v by_o his_o word_n as_o also_o too_o apply_v the_o the_o promise_n unto_o himself_o proper_o and_o peculiar_o 157._o question_n but_o the_o child_n which_o be_v baptize_v understand_v none_o of_o these_o thing_n answer_n i_o grant_v it_o but_o he_o shall_v understande_v it_o in_o his_o time_n because_o as_o i_o say_v before_o the_o virtue_n of_o these_o word_n through_o out_o the_o whole_a life_n of_o they_o that_o be_v baptize_v show_v his_o power_n in_o all_o tentation_n so_o that_o we_o be_v at_o the_o very_a point_n of_o death_n may_v and_o ought_v even_o with_o this_o only_a buckler_n beat_v back_o all_o those_o late_a temptation_n of_o satan_n avaunt_o satan_n for_o when_o i_o be_v yet_o deaf_a i_o hear_v one_o that_o say_v untoo_o i_o in_o the_o name_n and_o by_o the_o commandment_n of_o my_o saviour_n i_o baptise_v thou_o n._n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n of_o the_o son_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n this_o same_o baptism_n be_v untoo_o i_o a_o sure_a pledge_n that_o i_o be_o cleanse_v from_o all_o my_o sin_n and_o endue_v with_o the_o righteousness_n of_o my_o christ_n together_o with_o who_o i_o die_v and_o be_v bury_v i_o have_v now_o begin_v to_o arise_v again_o in_o my_o mind_n and_o shall_v full_o at_o the_o length_n also_o rise_v again_o in_o my_o flesh_n to_o everlasting_a life_n 158._o question_n but_o forasmuch_o as_o we_o sin_v every_o moment_n and_o our_o sin_n be_v wash_v away_o by_o baptism_n how_o come_v it_o to_o pass_v that_o baptism_n be_v not_o often_o minister_v to_o one_o especial_o see_v we_o minister_v the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n oftentimes_o answer_n it_o be_v enough_o that_o we_o be_v once_o regenerate_v and_o enter_v intoo_o the_o church_n from_o whence_o none_o that_o be_v elect_v be_v cast_v out_o but_o to_o be_v feed_v once_o in_o the_o church_n suffice_v not_o 159._o question_n yea_o but_o do_v not_o sin_n shut_v we_o out_o of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n answer_n no_o not_o so_o for_o so_o none_o shall_v remain_v in_o the_o church_n forasmuch_o as_o every_o one_o be_v a_o liar_n that_o say_v he_o have_v no_o sin_n oursinne_v therefore_o indeed_o yea_o our_o least_o sin_n deserve_v a_o shut_n out_o from_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n but_o to_o the_o elect_a enjoy_v the_o favour_n of_o god_n they_o be_v not_o impute_v therefore_o saint_n paul_n say_v not_o rom._n 8._o 1_o that_o there_o be_v no_o sin_n but_o that_o there_o be_v no_o condemnation_n too_o they_o which_o be_v in_o christ_n jesus_n question_n let_v we_o therefore_o sin_n that_o grace_n may_v abound_v answer_n yea_o but_o christian_a faith_n can_v by_o no_o mean_n admit_v this_o for_o it_o believe_v nothing_o but_o that_o the_o word_n of_o promise_n offer_v now_o there_o be_v no_o promise_n of_o pardon_n but_o to_o those_o that_o repent_v and_o amend_v and_o none_o be_v further_o of_o from_o repentance_n and_o amendment_n than_o they_o that_o witting_o abuse_v the_o patience_n of_o god_n to_o sin_n therefore_o the_o gift_n of_o true_a repentance_n be_v also_o proper_o belong_v to_o the_o elect_a 160._o question_n but_o what_o will_v thou_o say_v of_o those_o that_o be_v excommunicate_v for_o the_o lawful_a judgement_n of_o the_o church_n by_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n do_v in_o the_o earth_n be_v ratify_v in_o the_o heaven_n matth._n 18._o 18._o now_o they_o that_o be_v excommunicate_v be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o church_n 1._o cor._n 5._o 1._o and_o therefore_o out_o of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n answer_n no_o man_n can_v more_o doubt_n that_o the_o judgement_n of_o lawful_a excommunication_n be_v ratify_v in_o the_o heaven_n then_o if_o the_o son_n of_o god_n himself_o shall_v pronounce_v the_o sentence_n forasmuch_o as_o the_o church_n do_v that_o which_o it_o do_v in_o his_o name_n yet_o notwithstanding_o thou_o gaine_v not_o that_o thou_o strive_v for_o for_o neither_o the_o excommunicate_a person_n be_v simple_o too_o be_v compare_v too_o branch_n now_o once_o simple_o cut_v of_o from_o the_o vine_n but_o too_o unfruitful_a branch_n which_o draw_v not_o ivyce_n out_o of_o the_o vine_n and_o therefore_o at_o length_n too_o be_v cut_v off_o from_o god_n unless_o they_o short_o sprowte_n again_o which_o appear_v by_o the_o fruit_n of_o repentance_n even_o like_a as_o it_o fall_v out_o too_o bow_n which_o in_o the_o winter_n time_n be_v as_o they_o be_v dead_a and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o in_o the_o spring_n time_n receive_v their_o former_a hue_n and_o liveliness_n again_o for_o those_o same_o gift_n of_o god_n be_v without_o repentance_n now_o if_o so_o be_v any_o continue_v unto_o the_o last_o in_o their_o stubborness_n it_o be_v a_o token_n that_o they_o be_v indeed_o for_o a_o time_n outward_o in_o the_o church_n but_o they_o be_v never_o of_o the_o church_n for_o they_o have_v abide_v with_o we_o say_v saint_n john_n or_o at_o least_o after_o their_o error_n they_o have_v return_v 14._o 1._o john_n 2._o 14._o unto_o we_o again_o if_o they_o have_v be_v of_o us._n 161._o question_n but_o now_o if_o baptism_n be_v therefore_o not_o to_o be_v often_o minister_v to_o one_o because_o the_o first_o entrance_n intoo_o the_o church_n can_v be_v frustrate_a why_o in_o like_a manner_n suffice_v it_o not_o once_o too_o have_v receive_v the_o supper_n forasmuch_o as_o he_o that_o be_v true_o once_o incorporate_v into_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n can_v never_o altogether_o fall_v out_o of_o it_o answer_n we_o have_v tell_v the_o cause_n already_o for_o it_o be_v enough_o once_o to_o be_v bear_v again_o but_o not_o to_o be_v once_o nourish_v because_o as_o in_o this_o corporal_a life_n we_o must_v oftentimes_o take_v meat_n by_o the_o ivyce_n whereof_o we_o may_v be_v nourish_v so_o be_v incorporate_v into_o christ_n that_o we_o may_v more_o and_o more_o be_v quicken_v in_o he_o the_o often_o seal_v of_o that_o incorporation_n and_o as_o it_o be_v the_o nourish_a of_o faith_n be_v profitable_a notwithstanding_o these_o thing_n in_o this_o similitude_n be_v 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the_o element_n and_o the_o thing_n signify_v be_v minister_v to_o all_o 200._o question_n thou_o say_v also_o in_o the_o beginning_n that_o the_o simple_a word_n do_v consist_v in_o two_o thing_n to_o wit_n in_o the_o word_n themselves_o and_o in_o the_o thing_n signify_v by_o the_o word_n and_o that_o there_o before_o the_o sacrament_n be_v so_o far_o off_o from_o the_o simple_a and_o naked_a word_n that_o they_o also_o be_v set_v before_o our_o eye_n &_o therefore_o be_v call_v of_o augustine_n visible_a word_n and_o therefore_o it_o may_v be_v yea_o that_o the_o most_o wicked_a do_v understand_v aswell_o the_o outward_a word_n itself_o as_o the_o thing_n signify_v by_o it_o to_o wit_n this_o by_o the_o sound_n but_o those_o by_o the_o understanding_n why_o therefore_o do_v thou_o not_o think_v the_o like_a also_o in_o the_o sacrament_n too_o wit_n that_o both_o the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o thing_n signify_v the_o bread_n and_o the_o wine_n yea_o and_o christ_n too_o be_v receive_v 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