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A08562 A manuell or briefe volume of controuersies of religion betweene the Protestants and the Papists wherein the arguments of both sides are briefely set downe, and the aduersaries sophismes are plainely refuted. Written in Latine in a briefe and perspicuous method by Lucas Osiander, and now Englished with some additions and corrections.; Enchiridion controversiarum. English Osiander, Lucas, 1571-1638. 1606 (1606) STC 18880; ESTC S101908 177,466 558

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cause_n of_o salvation_n he_o speak_v of_o faith_n general_o and_o exclude_v neither_o weak_a nor_o imperfect_a faith_n 2._o christ_n lay_v hold_v on_o by_o faith_n can_v be_v deu●ded_v that_o he_o shall_v be_v say_v to_o be_v lay_v hold_n on_o but_o in_o part_n and_o they_o which_o lie_v hold_v on_o he_o to_o be_v save_v but_o in_o part_n but_o whole_a christ_n be_v apprehend_v as_o well_o by_o a_o weak_a as_o by_o a_o strong_a faith_n 3_o it_o be_v a_o fallacy_n take_v that_o for_o a_o cause_n which_o be_v no_o cause_n for_o the_o strongnesse_n or_o weakness_n of_o faith_n or_o a_o accident_n of_o faith_n be_v not_o the_o cause_n of_o apprehend_v salvation_n but_o of_o retain_v it_o now_o that_o which_o be_v speak_v of_o retain_v that_o ou●_n adversary_n do_v wrongful_o apply_v to_o the_o apprehend_v thereof_o 2_o no_o unclean_a thing_n shall_v enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o hea●en_n revel_v 21_o 27._o therefore_o needs_o they_o must_v be_v purge_v by_o purgatory_n answ_n 1_o 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revel_v 5_o 13._o but_o the_o devil_n hate_n christ_n and_o do_v not_o bow_v the_o knee_n unto_o he_o therefore_o there_o be_v soul_n in_o purgatory_n and_o consequent_o there_o be_v a_o purgatory_n ans_fw-fr 1_o the_o bowing_z of_o the_o knee_n in_o this_o place_n be_v the_o same_o that_o subjection_n in_o which_o sense_n even_o the_o devil_n though_o they_o tremble_v do_v in_o outward_a carriage_n confess_v subjection_n to_o christ_n 2_o it_o be_v a_o error_n take_v that_o which_o be_v speak_v indefinite_o of_o all_o sort_n of_o creature_n whether_o reasonable_a or_o unreasonable_a as_o i●_n it_o be_v speak_v definite_o of_o a_o certain_a sort_n of_o man_n of_o who_o notwithstanding_o there_o be_v no_o certainty_n in_o scripture_n 3_o as_o concern_v the_o place_n revelat_fw-la 5_o 3_o 13._o where_o there_o be_v mention_v make_v of_o such_o as_o be_v under_o the_o earth_n i_o answer_v 1_o if_o there_o be_v a_o purgatory_n yet_o be_v it_o not_o certain_a that_o it_o be_v under_o the_o 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to_o the_o scripture_n than_o to_o vision_n and_o spirit_n question_v 2._o whether_o the_o dead_a after_o their_o death_n not_o have_v attain_v the_o bliss_n of_o heaven_n may_v be_v holpen_v in_o purgatory_n by_o the_o suffrage_n of_o the_o live_n especial_o by_o the_o mass_n and_o those_o service_n of_o god_n of_o man_n in●●ntion_n &_o choice_n our_o adversary_n affirm_v we_o deny_v it_o because_o that_o which_o be_v not_o at_o all_o have_v no_o accident_n therefore_o see_v it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o there_o be_v a_o purgatory_n but_o the_o contrary_n be_v proved●_n it_o be_v in_o vain_a to_o dispute_v of_o the_o help_a of_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n the_o time_n of_o repentance_n in_o scripture_n be_v only_o grant_v to_o this_o present_a life_n after_o death_n be_v leave_v no_o place_n for_o repentance_n 1_o in_o a_o acceptable_a time_n have_v i_o hear_v thou_o isay_n 49_o 8._o behold_v now_o the_o accept_a time_n behold_v now_o the_o day_n of_o salvation_n 2_o cor_n 6._o 2._o 2._o while_o we_o have_v time_n let_v we_o do_v good_a galat_n 6_o 10._o 3_o the_o godly_a must_v redeem_v the_o time_n eph_n 5_o 16._o 4_o the_o time_n be_v short_a 1._o corinth_n 7_o 29._o as_o if_o he_o shall_v say_v he_o that_o will_v do_v well_o let_v he_o do_v it_o in_o this_o life_n for_o in_o the_o other_o life_n the_o time_n of_o do_v good_a can_v be_v recall_v 5._o exhort_v one_o another_o daily_a while_o it_o be_v call_v to_o day_n hebrues_n 3_o 13._o to_o day_n if_o you_o will_v hear●_n his_o voice_n etc._n etc._n let_v we_o study_v therefore_o to_o enter_v into_o that_o rest_n heb_fw-mi 4_o 7_o 11._o and_o psal_n 95_o 7_o 8._o after_o death_n there_o be_v none_o amendment_n of_o change_n to_o be_v hope_v for_o 1._o if_o the_o tree_n do●_n fall_v towards_o the_o south_n or_o towards_o the_o north_n in_o the_o place_n that_o the_o tree_n fall_v there_o it_o shall_v be_v eccles_n 11_o 2._o the_o dead_a do_v not_o after_o death_n by_o any_o good_a procure_v god_n favour_n for_o the_o alter_n of_o their_o estate_n 1._o for_o every_o man_n shall_v receive_v the_o thing_n that_o be_v do_v in_o his_o body_n 2_o corinth_n 5_o 10._o he_o faith_n not_o after_o death_n out_o of_o the_o body_n neither_o be_v the_o dead_a holpen_v by_o the_o suffrage_n or_o work_n of_o other_o man_n 1_o every_o man_n shall_v bear_v his_o own_o burden_n galat_n 6_o 5._o 2._o neither_o can_v the_o wise_a virgin_n give_v of_o their_o oil_n to_o the_o foolish_a virgin_n matth_n 25_o 9_o but_o especial_o th●_n dead_a can_v be_v holpen_v by_o those_o work_n private_a mass_n work_n of_o supererogation_n &c_n &c_n for_o how_o impious_a those_o be_v have_v be_v before_o declare_v and_o see_v the_o live_n by_o that_o idolatry_n deserve_v hell_n how_o can_v they_o help_v the_o dead_a with_o those_o work_n which_o god_n have_v reject_v contrariwise_o our_o adversary_n do_v dispute_v 1_o the_o work_n of_o the_o dead_a follow_v they_o revel_v 14_o 13._o therefore_o they_o be_v ●ased_v by_o good_a work_n in_o purgatory_n answer_v 1_o the_o text_n be_v by_o this_o argument_n corrupt_v and_o wrest_v many_o way_n 1_o the_o place_n speak_v of_o the_o bless_a and_o those_o that_o rest_n from_o their_o labour_n but_o our_o question_n be_v of_o they_o which_o be_v not_o yet_o bless_v but_o be_v exclude_v from_o rest_n 2_o the_o text_n speak_v of_o the_o recompense_n of_o a_o man_n own_o work_n but_o our_o disputation_n be_v of_o the_o work_n of_o the_o live_n do_v in_o favour_n of_o the_o dead_a 3_o the_o text_n speak_v of_o the_o increase_n of_o glory_n in_o the_o heavenly_a life_n but_o our_o disputation_n be_v of_o the_o diminish_n and_o shorten_n of_o pain_n in_o purgatory_n this_o argument_n than_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o heap_n of_o term_n that_o have_v no_o coherence_n one_o with_o another_o 2_o in_o the_o scripture_n holy_a man_n have_v mourn_v for_o their_o dead_a as_o abraham_n for_o sarah_n ●acob_n for_o rahel_n joseph_n for_o his_o father_n therefore_o the_o 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