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A54202 Reason against railing, and truth against fiction being an answer to those two late pamphlets intituled A dialogue between a Christian and a Quaker, and the Continuation of the dialogue &c. by one Thomas Hicks, an Anabaptist teacher : by W. Penn. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1673 (1673) Wing P1351; ESTC R25209 131,073 243

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15._o and_o t.h._n may_v as_o well_o charge_v it_o upon_o the_o apostle_n and_o upon_o his_o brother_n tho._n collier_n who_o in_o his_o marrow_n of_o christianity_n p._n 40_o 94_o 95._o plain_o say_v the_o form_n in_o which_o they_o shall_v be_v raise_v that_o be_v in_o a_o spiritual_a form_n not_o in_o a_o fleshly_a etc._n etc._n all_o flesh_n shall_v be_v swallow_v up_o in_o spirit_n and_o our_o body_n shall_v be_v change_v and_o make_v like_o his_o glorious_a body_n but_o tho._n hicks_n plain_o contradict_v he_o say_v that_o the_o apostle_n and_o all_o true_a christian_n say_v this_o body_n of_o flesh_n and_o bone_n shall_v rise_v again_o dial._n p._n 59_o 60._o which_o he_o can_v never_o yet_o
we_o affirm_v viz._n one_a that_o jesus_n christ_n in_o the_o flesh_n be_v more_o th●●_n a_o meet_a exemple_n of_o holiness_n two_o and_o his_o blood_n be_v of_o peculiar_a value_n and_o estimation_n with_o god_n thomas_n hicks_n proceed_v in_o his_o envy_n and_o falshood_n sti●●●●_n bring_v our_o suffering_n into_o disesteem_n viz._n 〈…〉_z people_n that_o ever_o boast_a so_o vain_o of_o their_o suffering_n 〈◊〉_d you_o do_v that_o scarce_o a_o pamphlet_n can_v come_v out_o from_o yo●_n 〈◊〉_d but_o the_o world_n must_v hear_v of_o your_o brag_v of_o this_o kind_n contin_n p._n 6._o a_o manifest_a and_o twofold_a falsehood_n for_o one_a we_o do_v not_o vain_o boast_v of_o our_o suffering_n but_o have_v rejoice_v in_o christ_n jesus_n that_o we_o have_v be_v count_v worthy_a to_o suffer_v for_o his_o name_n when_o you_o who_o now_o enjoy_v our_o prosperity_n dare_v not_o show_v your_o head_n in_o public_a for_o your_o profession_n or_o worship_n but_o flee_v into_o corner_n and_o obscurity_n and_o your_o public_a meeting_n be_v desert_v and_o put_v by_o for_o thy_o part_n t.h._n i_o do_v not_o think_v thou_o have_v much_o suffer_v for_o conscience_n or_o any_o for_o christ_n to_o boast_v of_o 2._o scarce_n a_o pamphlet_n be_v also_o false_a for_o many_o of_o our_o book_n and_o paper_n relate_v not_o our_o suffering_n but_o other_o subject_n much_o less_o vain_o boast_v or_o brag_v thereof_o but_o it_o seem_v that_o it_o both_o judge_n and_o vex_v thou_o and_o such_o creep_v envious_a spirit_n to_o hear_v of_o our_o deep_a suffering_n since_o they_o have_v have_v such_o a_o bless_a effect_n in_o the_o nation_n as_o the_o incline_v the_o heart_n of_o many_o to_o the_o live_a truth_n and_o the_o increase_n of_o our_o number_n in_o it_o thou_o t.h._n and_o such_o envious_a spirit_n be_v most_o quiet_a towards_o we_o when_o you_o see_v we_o under_o persecution_n and_o appear_v most_o outrageous_a against_o we_o when_o we_o have_v liberty_n as_o if_o you_o be_v 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his_o word_n direct_o and_o true_o cite_v but_o of_o the_o immediate_a inspiration_n of_o god_n or_o original_a life_n or_o soul_n of_o man_n soul_n by_o which_o man_n become_v live_v a_o live_a soul_n in_o this_o he_o query_n be_v not_o that_o of_o god_n which_o come_v out_o from_o god_n 3._o it_o be_v a_o absurd_a and_o most_o abusive_a insinuation_n that_o our_o suffering_n either_o be_v or_o can_v be_v for_o any_o carnal_a advantage_n or_o interest_n see_v we_o free_o have_v often_o offer_v up_o our_o life_n and_o our_o all_o in_o this_o world_n therein_o 4._o it_o be_v still_o a_o manifest_a slander_n that_o we_o deny_v any_o eternal_a advantage_n to_o person_n after_o death_n neither_o be_v it_o any_o much_o less_o direct_a consequence_n of_o our_o say_n not_o that_o body_n which_o thou_o sowe_v shall_v be_v and_o flesh_n and_o blood_n shall_v not_o inherit_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n or_o that_o the_o body_n which_o god_n give_v shall_v not_o be_v in_o a_o fleshly_a but_o in_o a_o spiritual_a form_n as_o tho._n collier_n confess_v dare_v he_o say_v this_o be_v to_o deny_v any_o eternal_a advantage_n but_o with_o t.h._n this_o be_v no_o more_o than_o the_o genuine_a and_o a_o direct_a consequence_n of_o deny_v the_o resurrection_n of_o this_o body_n be_v it_o not_o then_o the_o reap_v eternal_a advantage_n must_v be_v place_v upon_o this_o earthly_a tabernacle_n or_o carnal_a body_n though_o it_o must_v be_v dissolve_v and_o no_o new_a one_o to_o be_v create_v according_a to_o his_o former_a doctrine_n dial._n p._n 58._o o_o wonderful_a philosophy_n eternal_a advantage_n place_v upon_o these_o same_o earthly_a body_n yet_o they_o not_o to_o be_v renew_v by_o creation_n after_o dissolve_a and_o turn_v to_o dust_n and_o how_o contrary_a to_o the_o apostle_n testimony_n be_v his_o so_o much_o place_v eternal_a advantage_n upon_o this_o earthly_a disolvable_a body_n see_v the_o 2._o cor._n 5_o 1_o 2_o 8._o phil._n 1.21.23_o our_o experience_a christ_n second_a appearance_n without_o sin_n unto_o salvation_n in_o answer_n to_o our_o hope_n and_o testify_v to_o eternal_a life_n and_o felicity_n as_o inward_o and_o spiritual_o receive_v by_o those_o that_o now_o suffer_v for_o christ_n can_v be_v no_o denial_n of_o any_o future_a or_o eternal_a advantage_n according_a to_o his_o instance_n against_o i_o p._n 7._o see_v we_o know_v that_o to_o live_v be_v christ_n and_o to_o die_v be_v gain_n unto_o we_o they_o that_o walk_v up_o to_o his_o light_n in_o they_o here_o can_v miss_v of_o a_o eternal_a advantage_n hereafter_o our_o light_a affliction_n which_o be_v but_o for_o a_o moment_n work_v for_o be_v a_o far_o more_o exceed_a weight_n of_o glory_n see_v 2_o cor._n 4_o 10_o 11._o to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n concern_v justification_n imputation_n and_o sanctification_n p._n 50_o 51_o 52_o 53_o 54_o 55_o 56_o 57_o 58_o wherein_o we_o differ_v he_o be_v full_o answer_v in_o our_o book_n viz._n divin_n chr._n serious_a apol._n but_o where_o he_o say_v viz._n i_o know_v of_o none_o that_o hold_v justification_n of_o person_n in_o their_o ungodliness_n p._n 55._o be_v there_o not_o those_o that_o hold_v justification_n before_o sanctification_n or_o in_o a_o sinful_a estate_n by_o a_o mere_a imputatation_n and_o those_o that_o thus_o argue_v for_o it_o by_o the_o rule_n of_o contrary_n as_o christ_n be_v make_v to_o be_v sin_n for_o we_o who_o know_v no_o sin_n i.e._n by_o a_o inherent_a gild_n or_o operation_n of_o sin_n in_o he_o so_o we_o be_v make_v the_o righteousness_n of_o god_n in_o he_o they_o add_v as_o and_o so_o as_o he_o so_o we_o i.e._n we_o be_v not_o actual_o make_v righteous_a by_o any_o inherent_a righteousness_n or_o holiness_n of_o christ_n wrought_v in_o we_o any_o more_o than_o christ_n be_v make_v sin_n but_o reckon_v righteous_a only_o from_o his_o active_a and_o passive_a obedience_n without_o we_o this_o doctrine_n we_o have_v not_o only_o oppose_v but_o refuted_a divin_n christ_n ser._n apol._n the_o wicked_a slander_n he_o call_v upon_o we_o in_o this_o be_v his_o own_o t.h._n we_o plead_v not_o for_o a_o righteousness_n impute_v to_o overthrow_v a_o righteousness_n inherent_a or_o the_o exercise_n of_o christian_a virtue_n p._n 55._o but_o do_v you_o not_o oppose_v a_o righteousness_n inherent_a as_o to_o justification_n or_o deny_v that_o those_o christian_a virtue_n within_o be_v reckon_v or_o esteem_v of_o god_n unto_o justification_n t.h._n it_o be_v you_o will_v separate_v and_o divide_v they_o not_o we_o p._n 55._o false_a we_o make_v no_o such_o separation_n between_o christ_n righteousness_n inherent_a in_o we_o and_o justification_n on_o the_o imputation_n as_o we_o we_o experience_v a_o participation_n thereof_o christ_n be_v make_v unto_o we_o both_o righteousness_n sanctification_n &_o redemption_n
t.h._n do_v not_o this_o import_n that_o a_o man_n must_v be_v formal_o just_a before_o he_o be_v justify_v for_o nothing_o be_v impute_v or_o reckon_v to_o we_o according_a to_o your_o reason_v but_o what_o be_v inherent_a in_o we_o p._n 55._o answ_n your_o reason_v it_o seem_v it_o be_v not_o his_o then_o will_v he_o not_o here_o separate_v and_o divide_v between_o a_o righteousness_n impute_v and_o a_o righteousness_n inherent_a or_o the_o exercise_n of_o christian_a virtue_n if_o so_o be_v that_o a_o man_n must_v be_v justify_v i.e._n in_o his_o sense_n impute_v or_o account_v righteous_a before_o he_o be_v formal_o just_a how_o agree_v this_o with_o his_o concession_n before_o viz._n that_o they_o will_v not_o separate_v &_o divide_v between_o impute_v &_o inherent_a righteousness_n t.h._n i_o will_v ask_v you_o whether_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v not_o one_o part_n of_o justification_n answ_n yes_o it_o be_v he_o degreee_v of_o it_o the_o next_o step_v to_o a_o absolute_a justification_n remission_n be_v of_o sin_n past_a receive_v upon_o true_a repentance_n and_o conversion_n from_o ●in_a to_o newness_n of_o life_n justification_n and_o acceptance_n with_o god_n in_o christ_n be_v enjoy_v in_o the_o newness_n of_o life_n by_o such_o as_o continue_v in_o sincere_a obedience_n to_o christ_n this_o remission_n pardon_v or_o justification_n from_o sin_n past_a though_o not_o inherent_a in_o the_o natural_a fall_v or_o sinful_a man_n yet_o it_o be_v inward_o receive_v through_o faith_n in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n by_o such_o as_o true_o depart_v from_o sin_n and_o evil_a and_o give_v up_o to_o serve_v the_o live_n god_n t.h._n certain_o he_o that_o be_v pardon_v must_v be_v a_o sinner_n p._n 56._o answ_n no_o he_o must_v be_v one_o that_o cease_v from_o sin_n for_o if_o i_o sin_n than_o thou_o mark_v i_o and_o thou_o will_v not_o acquit_v i_o from_o my_o iniquity_n job_n 10.14_o and_o certain_o he_o that_o be_v not_o acquit_v be_v not_o pardon_v nor_o justify_v but_o i_o must_v confess_v ●e_v somewhat_o mend_v the_o matter_n in_o add_v viz._n that_o be_v such_o that_o be_v so_o viz._n sinner_n till_o justify_v not_o such_o as_o remain_v so_o be_v justify_v p._n 56._o at_o length_n we_o agree_v in_o this_o one_a that_o such_o as_o be_v pardon_v be_v sometime_o sinner_n &_o disobedient_a before_o 2._o but_o be_v pardon_v and_o justify_v by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n in_o his_o belove_a son_n they_o do_v not_o remain_v disobedient_a therefore_o they_o that_o remain_v sinner_n and_o disobedient_a be_v not_o in_o a_o justify_v state_n i_o have_v write_v something_o against_o t._n hicks_n gross_a abuse_n of_o our_o reputation_n as_o we_o be_v man_n 69._o as_o well_o as_o christian_n by_o his_o most_o false_a and_o unjust_a consequence_n he_o draw_v from_o our_o own_v the_o light_n within_o as_o the_o rule_n &_o immediate_a motion_n &_o direction_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n within_n especial_o in_o matter_n of_o worship_n &_o t.h._n his_o persecute_v spirit_n in_o his_o false_o accuse_v we_o with_o disrespect_n to_o parent_n magistrate_n etc._n etc._n be_v destructive_a to_o all_o humane_a society_n but_o w.p._n have_v reprehend_v he_o in_o these_o thing_n in_o his_o part_n before_o i_o forbear_v to_o publish_v i_o at_o present_a for_o i_o have_v in_o this_o endeavour_v brevity_n g.w._n the_o present_a controversy_n draw_v to_o a_o end_n or_o those_o doctrine_n and_o principle_n which_o have_v be_v chief_o controvert_v between_o we_o grant_v and_o confess_v to_o by_o our_o present_a opposer_n thomas_n hicks_n and_o his_o brethren_n here_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v how_o like_a to_o we_o call_v quaker_n divers_a of_o the_o baptist-teacher_n have_v be_v make_v some_o time_n to_o speak_v and_o hold_v forth_o truth_n in_o word_n which_o i_o will_v have_v they_o serious_o to_o review_v and_o lay_v aside_o all_o envy_n and_o prejudice_n which_o have_v cause_v so_o much_o contradiction_n and_o gainsaying_n on_o their_o part_n both_o to_o themselves_o and_o the_o truth_n profess_v by_o we_o our_o principle_n and_o their_o concession_n true_o state_v and_o compare_v 1._o quaker_n that_o god_n be_v and_o that_o he_o be_v light_a the_o eternal_a word_n of_o life_n and_o power_n which_o be_v with_o god_n &c_n &c_n be_v god_n be_v that_o in_o which_o be_v life_n and_o the_o life_n be_v the_o light_n of_o man_n and_o that_o be_v the_o true_a light_n that_o enlighten_v every_o man_n come_v into_o the_o world_n john_n 1.1_o 4_o 9_o baptist_n christ_n in_o you_o and_o he_o be_v the_o life_n and_o light_n of_o man_n dial._n p._n 22._o and_o jesus_n christ_n be_v god_n the_o most_o high_a god_n of_o the_o same_o substance_n and_o essence_n h.g._n light_n from_o the_o sun_n p._n 83_o 84_o etc._n etc._n ii_o qua._n the_o light_n of_o christ_n or_o the_o eternal_a word_n in_o man_n be_v divine_a and_o increated_a bap._n the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n as_o the_o eternal_a word_n enlighten_v all_o man_n and_o woman_n that_o come_v into_o the_o world_n light_n from_o the_o sun_n of_o righteousness_n p._n 8._o iii_o qua._n god_n be_v infinite_a and_o omni-present_a and_o his_o presence_n do_v both_o afford_v life_n virtue_n and_o light_a to_o man_n and_o jesus_n christ_n as_o god_n over_o all_o in_o respect_n of_o his_o divinity_n or_o divine_a nature_n be_v therefore_o in_o all_o through_o all_o and_o over_o all_o though_o not_o reveal_o nor_o united_o bap._n christ_n in_o respect_n of_o his_o divine_a nature_n be_v in_o all_o place_n contin_n pag._n 34._o how_o can_v you_o call_v the_o light_n within_o christ_n if_o some_o scripture_n have_v not_o mention_v christ_n in_o you_o and_o that_o he_o be_v the_o life_n and_o light_n of_o man_n dial._n p._n 22._o iu_o qua._n the_o light_n of_o christ_n in_o man_n be_v a_o certain_a rule_n and_o guide_n to_o direct_v man_n out_o of_o sin_n and_o death_n into_o the_o way_n of_o life_n and_o peace_n and_o for_o that_o end_n ought_v to_o be_v obey_v 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their_o act_n dial._n pag._n 31._o there_o be_v something_o commendable_a in_o the_o heathen_n p._n 36._o that_o light_n in_o every_o man_n that_o do_v convince_v of_o sin_n and_o reprove_v he_o for_o sin_n christ_n as_o he_o be_v the_o wo●●_n with_o g●d_n so_o he_o be_v the_o light_n of_o the_o world_n etc._n etc._n w._n burnet_n capit●●_n p●in_o p._n 8_o 10_o 16_o 17._o vii_o qua._n that_o the_o holy_a spirit_n unction_n or_o live_v word_n within_o which_o be_v receive_v by_o they_o that_o wait_v in_o and_o obey_v the_o light_n thereof_o be_v to_o be_v prefer_v as_o a_o more_o eminent_a and_o universal_a rule_n than_o the_o scripture_n and_o it_o open_v they_o and_o bring_v man_n to_o the_o true_a understanding_n of_o they_o and_o lead_v