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The Kingdomes grand quere. What warrant there is for such proceeds about the King. Resolved by a Presbyterian minister. Also a quere taken from the representation of the judgement of the ministers in the Province of London delivered to the Generall, Ja. 18. 1648. With resolutions to them both for better satisfaction of tender consciences, that scruple the late proceeds of the Parl. and of the Army with the King.
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Century of scandalous Ministers justly cast out by this Parliament and few the narrow way to life and that as Rome and Babel was not built in a day so what 's of Babel is known by degrees more and more and so we are to change for the better still If any change to Presbytery not out of conscience but for by-ends such God will judge I confesse I have formerly eyed preferment here but now through Gods mercy I doe more eye better and enduring preferment And now to your Queries To your first It 's granted that Rights that are Divine or Naturall no man ought to deny or cut off but positive rights may and sometimes ought to be cut off As Popes power in England Abbots Abbasses Priors c. When such are found inconvenient or hurtfull that power which gave them and put them up whether Sword or Choise the same power may and should put them down againe To your second David and Manasses were not Kings onely by positive but by divine expresse lawes First David 1 Sam. 16.11 Then David's Successors whereof Manasses was one for ever 1 Chron. 17.11 12.14 2 Sam. 17.16 Psalm 18.50 2 Kings 8.19 2 Chron. 21.7 c. So in the Sanhedrin were some of David's house till Christ came who is King for ever Gen. 49.10 with Luke 1.32 33.27.63 with Numb 36.8 9. For otherwise the expresse repentance of David and Manasses could not satisfie the expresse law without respect of persons That the murtherer must surely dye and no satisfaction must be taken For blood pollutes the Land and defiles it and there can be no expiation for the Land for blood but by the blood of him that 's guilty Numb 35.31 32 33 34. Gen. 9.6 Rev. 13.10 Deut. 16.19 Now in our Land either is the Parliament chiefly guilty of the blood of many thousands who sent to attach the Kings Councellors and then the King raised an Army neer York or else is the King thereby chiefly guilty The chiefly guilty of blood ought to dye by the law of God and of nature though sometimes the guilty are too hard for others to punish and escape for a time as Joab did Yet when such are subdued they must dye as in 2 Sam. 3.29 30. 1 Kings 2.5 6.29.32 To your third Quere If you wrong the Lords Annointed will not God curse c Answ No Kings are by Scripture warrant called the Lords Anointed but onely such as were Kings by Gods expresse rule or expresly before named and appointed by him not any other Kings that were by positive law only Secondly It 's no wrong to doe justice impartially but it is for a blessing to a Kingdome and a curse to neglect it 1 Kings 2.32 33. Num. 35.33 34. Ier. 5.1.5 6. To the fourth Other Nations will come and ruine us If God give quietnesse who then can trouble Iob 34.29 when judgement was done on Israels enemies then God gave them rest round about 2 Chron 20.29 30. To the fifth Will you depose our King before you have another King What necessity hath England more then Holland of a King doe all goe by the eares there What approved Author blames them or their Government more then such as have Kings Or who blames Rome that changed their Kings into two Consuls yearly chosen banishing their wicked King Tarquin for his base adultery and them into tenne chief Governours and when they began to tyrannize deposing them and setting up two Consuls and then one Dictator c. and who blames them for it The Senators wisdome prevented broyles To your last The time is near when all Tyranny Oppression Law-vexations Ware shall all cease Severall Nations are casting off cruell yokes See Isa 40.14 Dan. 2.34 35.45 Dan. 7.26 And who knoweth whether our Army Senators may begin to make up the breaches of many Generations wherby both we and our Posterity may blesse the Lord for them Isa 58.12 However Fiat justitia et nobiscum erit Dominus Your bitternesse in some expressions I passe over and shall remain Jan. 26. 1649. current Yours if you are Gods and the Kingdoms A SECOND QUERE from the Representations of the judgement of 47. Ministers in the Province of London in their Letter to the Generall delivered Jan. 18. 1648. WHat warrant hath the Army who in reference to the power of Magistracy are but private persons to usurp an Authority over the King and Parliament contrary to our Oaths our Vow and Covenant to preserve the rights of Parliament and the Kings Majesties Person and Authority in the preservation and defence of the true Religion and Liberties of the Kingdome For answer hereunto As when the chiefe Priests Scribes and Presbyters or Elders put this Question to Jesus By what authority dost thou these things and who gave thee authority to doe these things Jesus answered and said unto them I also will aske you one question answer me and I will tell you by what authority I doe these things Mar. 11.27 So say I herein I will ask you one or two Questions what authority had the high Priest Jehoiada to joyne in a Conspiracy with Captaines of Hundreds and to gather Levites together and to order a third part here and there and to make lawes for the Kingdome when hee and they in reference to the power of Magistracy were but private persons that yet they order things as if they were chief Magistrates of the Kingdome And by what law or president in all Israel doe they take upon them to oppose and depose and put to death the person that swayed the Scepter who originally came in by force what ever Oaths of Allegiance or Vowes they had made to keep Allegiance and though they had been obedient to that power for severall yeares The Lord had said of the house of David that his sons should reigne for ever But where hath he said so of the house of Stuarts more then of the house of King Harold whom William the Conquerour by force deposed and more then the Brutans now called Welch whom the Saxons drove from their rights here If any have such rights to the Kingdome it is in some of those Brutans if reigning more then Priests office must be by succession Secondly The REPRESENTATION of the generall Assembly of the Kirke of Scotland printed for Richard Bostocke July 5. 1645. in the Name of the whole Nationall Kirk expresly charged the K. with the guilt of the shedding of the blood of many thousands to use their words of your Majesties best Subjests and permitting Masse and other Idolatry in your owne Familie c. And you kow the Scripture saith yee shall take no satisfaction for the life of a Murtherer which is guilty of death but he shall be surely put to death Numb 35.31 The Land cannot be cleansed of the blood that is shed therein but by the blood of him that shed it Now when Jehoiada and those private persons with respect to the power of Magistracy had caused
the murtherer that swayed the Scepter to be put to death then the Lord shewed his approbation in giving the City rest and quiet thereupon 2 Chron. 23.1.15.21 The second Quere is therefore How is it if ye be Embassadors of Christ as you say that you lift up your voyces against the Army that would not have the guilt of blood to lye upon this Kingdome and have done in some respect like Iehoiada upon an urgent occasion though these seeme to have more authority being cloathed with the authority of the Kingdome from the high Court then more pure to fight for the Priviledges of Parliament and liberty of the people against all Opposers in the Kingdome and the Kings person no further which he hath violated as the Scottish Kirk charge him and you know and there were opposers thereof in those so betrusted in Parliament which was the most unsufferable of all And yet that you lift not up your voyce against the Parliament when they were like by corrupt ones swayings there to conclude a Treaty without satisfying justice for the blood of many thousands that one person is guilty of and not exempt by Gods word from justice Would you have the Land defiled with bloud and Gods wrath upon the Land rather then to have justice done upon that one person Are you not partiall in justice Is it for no private interest Is it not because some of you feare the losse of your Tithes that some of you have drawn on some others to subscribe And did the Embassadors of Christ ever exact or take Tithe as you read of Were any ordinary Ministers to receive Tithe but only the legall Ministers that were also bound to pay a Tithe thereof for a heave-offering to the high Priest and the people must eate of the Tithe before the Lord Numb 18.26.28 Deut. 14.22 23. What God hath joyned why doe you sever or what God hath equally anulled why will you uphold any part thereof more then other any of you And why is not your contest as much against this course all of you but only for private interests Have you not read what David did warrantably in case of private extreamity and those that were with him which was not lawfull for him or them in an ordinary case to have done Mat. 12.3 4. And doth not Jesus Christ rehearse this and is it not written for our instruction what warrantably may be done in case of private much more publique extreamity by persons impowered for publique good may be done warrantably I say for that end what ordinarily would be unlawfull By what authority did many persons high and low in Scotland raise Armes against the authority of their late Parliament 1648. or against those Forces that were raised by the authority of that Parliament that had broke their Covenant in invading England and did seeke the ruine of all that opposed their proceedings what president or law had they to take up armes against them Or to make lawes of themselves before a lawfull Parliament and contrary to the last Parliament and to the declared priviledges and liberties of the Subjects That none should be chosen to be of the next Parliament nor be Electors of them but that were so and so qualified was salue populi suprema lex the safety of the people the supreame law a warrant for them alone and for no others doe you blame others for the like course and condemn them Are you not then partiall and walke as men not as Christians Whether is it not to be lamented that many persons that have been in high esteeme when they preach'd the Gospell of Faith and love should come to have a beam in their own eye and yet be insensible thereof and then be lifting up the voice and crying aloud against their Brethren because a mote if so much as that is in their brethrens eye In the feare of God consider whether it be not thus with any of you Have none of you blasphemed and railed against those that were in the highest Court of the Kingdome Have none of you beene partakers of the late Scottish invasion against the authority and good of the Kingdome Have not some of you of the Assembly acted there directly contrary to the Commission by which you sate there viz. Requiring that you should act nothing there but according to their appointment Have not some of you publiquely contested against the Parliament of whom you desired to have great power in the Kingdome because they yeelded not to the giving of you an unlimited power in almost ten thousand Courts of Judicature in the Kingdome as that forced the Parliament to complain April 17. 1646. before you would yeeld to set upon the Church-governments Reformation that you had power to doe And this your contest if not contempt you published to the world and all this it 's feared out of selfe-love or selfe-ends seeing and corrupting your judgements And now before you have publiquely recanted for this but the root of it abiding in you to heare you crying out against others for wronging authority because in such an extreamity and for such good ends they have done something like the act of Jehoiada that famous excellent act in the behalfe of the Kingdome Consider what is said and the Lord give both to you and to us more understanding in all things Amen FINIS