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A00358 A treatise perswadynge a man patientlye to suffre the deth of his frende; De morte declamatio. English Erasmus, Desiderius, d. 1536. 1531 (1531) STC 10476.3; ESTC S2113 11,664 42

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wherfore do you with so vniuste com playntes accuse and blame destenyefortune and dethe Haue you enuye at me bicause I am delyuered from the yuels of that lyfe am brought to this felicitie that I am in But be hit that your fatherly goodnes and pure amitie dothe nat enuye me Yet what other thynge meaneth this sorowfull complaynyng Thynke you this worthye to be lamented that I am deducte and brought from thraldome to libertie from peyne and care to pleasure felicitie from darkenes vnto lighte from perill and daunger vnto sure saftie from deth vnto lyfe from sickenessis and disseases vnto im mortalitie from so many yuels to so high goodnes from thynges caduke and transitorie to the euerlastynge fro thinges erthly to celestiall and finally from the corrupte and vnclene company of all people to the felowshyp of angels Tell me I prey you for the great loue and kyndnes that ye beare me If it laye in your power to releue me agayne wolde ye releue me Than what offence haue I done to deserue so great hatred of you If ye wolde nat reliue me agayne than for what purpose seruen all these lamētatiōs the which as I haue said are nat only vnprofitable but also vn godly But ne were it so that immortalite had a while agone clene depued me of all sorowe I wolde lyke wyse with wepyng teares bewayle your so rowfull mourning sore haue rewed vpon thilke grosse darke cloudines of your mynde But ye say that you on your part wepe make lamētatiō For soth therin ye do nat like louers but like vnto thē that haue a respecte to them selfewarde that wyll to others discōmodite se to their own bu sines Nowe go to tell me what losse is it that ye susteine by my deth Is it bicause ye can nat haue me in your sight Pardie ye may neuer the lasse at your owne pleasure remembre me the meane tyme ye and so moche the more welthyly in howe moche I am in sure saftie For loke that ye esteme me nowe delyuered frō all the yuels what so euer they be that maye bechaunce a mortall man in his lyfe of whiche your longe robustous lyfe for a great parte hath experience And though that I be nat with you with lowly obeisāce to do you seruice yet may I be a sure an effectuall aduocate for you before the high maiestie of god And finally howe small a thynge is hit that deuideth our conuersation familiaritie Nowe loke that you so endeuour your selfe that whan ye haue well and vertuouslye passed the course of your lyfe that ye maye than at the houre of dethe be founde worthy to be cōueyed hither If that your sonne I saye shulde saye these wordes to vs myghte we nat well be ashamed thus to lament and mourne as we do with these maner of reasons I am wonte to ease the greffe of myn owne mynde of the whiche I wolde that you shulde be part taker nat all only that ye haue any great nede of those remedies but I demed it agreable that ye shulde be partaker of my cōsolation of whose sorowe I was partiner But briefly to conclude all that hath ben at length reasoned by this maner meane ye shall aswage the smartynge sorowe of your mynde My sōne is deed ye begotte a mortall creature I haue loste a great iewell ye haue yelded hit agayne to hym that frelye gaue hit you It is a right greuous thing to be thus destitude It shulde be the lighter borne that may be redressed by some mene He hath lefte me his father alone cōfortles what dothe it auayle to wepe and wayle for that that can nat be remedied or why mourne you for that the whiche chaunceth to so manye thousandes as well as to you Alas I can nat chose but wepe for the deth of my sonne ye but he that diethe well dothe in no wyse perysshe But he died to sone He that diethe well diethe nat to sone He dyed longe before his daye was come There is no man that hath a daye certayne appointed vnto hym He decessed in his flourynge youthe It is than best to dye whan to lyue it is moste swete He died a very yonge man So is he withdrawen from the mo yuels and troubuls of this lyfe I haue loste the beste childe that any man coude haue Be gladde that ye had suche one He departed out of this worlde an innocēt No deth shulde be more desired and lesse bewayled Ye but it is nat lefull for me the meane whyle to haue fruition with my sonne Yes in your mynde you may and within shorte space you and he to gether bodye and soule shall ioye and take pleasure If ye knowe any better remedies than these of gentylnes let me here them if ye do nat than vse these with me And thus fare ye wel which your sōne also wold ye shuld Thomas Berthelet regius impressor excudebat Cum priuilegio
A treatise perswadynge a man patientlye to suffre the deth of his frende Into this worlde naked we entered And so we must agayne out of it fare Deth By no man can Be defended There is no kynes thinge it wyll spare Than wherfore shulde we for it care At auayleth nat But passe forthe The harde strokes chance they vnware And paciently take them in worthe For they that take deth vnpacienly Seme to the worlde to set their mynde Blessed Be they that in our lorde dye For they Be sure the very lyfe to fynde A comfortable exhortation agaynst the chaunces of deth made by Erasmus Rot. HOwe bytter and howe greuous a wounde perceth your fatherly harte for the deathe of your mooste goodly chylde I lightly cōrecte by myne owne sorowe And therfore I were ryghte moche vncourtoys if that I in so sorowfull a chance wolde warne you his father to make lamentation whan I that am but a straunger can nat chose but wepe wayle Ye myght well thinke me rude and vntaught if I wolde go about to heale your gresse whan I my selfe had nede of a phisitian if I wolde lette you his father to wepe whan the teares stylle abundauntlye trykell downe from myne eien And all be it that the ilke stroke of Fortune oughte deper to perce your fatherly breast yet your great wysedome was wont so to rule you in all your dedes that ye nat onely with a strōge a stoute mynde but also with a glad and a mery chere wolde suffre and passe ouer all suche chaunces as happe to mankynde wherfore ye oughte so to settell your selfe that if ye can nat as yet put awaye clene the sorowe of your harte for no man can denye but that ye haue ryghte good cause to be heuy yet at the least wyse some what suppresse moderate the same dolour And for what cause shulde ye nat clene forgette it seinge that the space of a fewe dayes wyll cause idiottes so to do me thynketh reason shulde persuade an excellent wyse man For what selye mother doth so extremely bewayle the dethe of her childe but that in shorte space of tyme her sorowe some what asslaketh and at length is clene forgotten To haue alway a stedfast mynde is a token of a perfecte wyse man But for those chaunces vnto the whiche we all egally bothe more and lesse be subiecte to sorowe out of measure me thynketh it extreme folys henes For who is nat ware excepte he that myndeth nothynge that he is borne vnder suche a condition that whan so euer god wyll call hym he muste forth with nedes departe hence So than what other thyng I prey you dothe he that bewayleth ones deth than lamentably complayne that he is mortall Or why shuld we rather sorowe the departynge ▪ hence than the entrynge in to this worlde consideryng that both are egally natural Euē in lyke case as though one shuld gyue great thankes for to be called to a great feaste or dyner and wolde lament and demeane great sorowe whā he shulde departe away thence If that a man as hit were from an highe lokynge place wolde aduise well the cōdicion and lyfe of all mankynde myght he nat well reken him selfe a nyce felowe if he amonge so manyfolde examples of priuation amonge so thycke buryals of yonge and olde wolde be greuously vexed in his mynde as thoughe vnto hym onely were chaunced some newe and great yuell and as though he onely beinge happy aboue other wolde desyre and loke to stande without the cōmon lotte For whiche consideration the excellent wise men that foūde and made lawes in olde time to then tent that they wolde some what incline to the affections of parētes and to th ende they wolde nat be seene to exclude euery body from that passiō beinge also cōdemned of some of the stoicke philosophers they lymytted vnto thē a certayne tyme to mourne the whiche endured nat very longe Either bicause that they well vnderstode and knewe that in those maner of chaunces the whiche are bothe cōmune to all folkes and also do nat hap through any iniury of Fortune but are induced by the verye course and ordynaunce of Nature shorte mournynge shulde suffice yea vnto them that were nat able to moderate all affections consideryng that Natures selfe by lyttel lyttell soupleth the wounde that she made and weareth away the scarre Or els bicause they diligently marked that mournynge was nat onely vnprofitable vnto them that were bemoned but also hurtful to thē that made suche mone and greuous and vnquiete to theyr frendes acqueyntance and company But nowe if a man wolde consider the matter a ryghte doth it nat seme a poynt of madnes wyllyngly of one harme to make twayne and whan ye can nat by no maner reason recouer your predestinate losse yet wilfullye to annoye and hurte your owne selfe In lyke maner as though a man that his ennemies hath spoyled of parte of his goodes wolde in his anger throwe all that euer remayned in to the see and than wolde say howe he by that meane dyd bewayle his losse If we lyttell regarde the noble Mimus whose sayenge may beseme any philosopher to speake Thou muste patiently suffre and grutche nat at it that can nat be amended Let vs call to mynde the moche goodly example of the ryghte excellent kynge Dauid the whiche so sone as tydynges was broughte hym that his sonne that he so tenderly loued was deed he forthwith rose vp from the grounde and shaked brusshed of the duste he threwe away his sherte of heare and so whan he had wasshed and an noynted with a gladde countenaunce and a mery chere he wente to dyner And by cause his frendes maruayled therat he sayde to them For what entent shulde I kylle my selfe with wo and sorowe For vnto this tyme some hope I had that god beinge moued with my lamentation wolde haue saued my childe a lyue but now all our wepyng teares can nat restore hym agayne to vs a lyue we shall shortly spede vs hēce after him who is so fonde to crouche and pray hym whō he knoweth well wyll incline to no prayers There is nothyng more vntreatable than dethe nothynge is more deffe nor nothynge more rygorous By crafty handelynge the sauage beastis yea the moste wylde of them all are made tame There is a waye to breake the harde marbull stone and a meane to mollifie the diamant but there is nothynge wherwith dethe wyll be appesed or ouer come It neyther sparethe beautie ryches age nor dignitie And therfore it oughte to greue vs moche the lesse either bicause it can nat be esche wed or els by cause it is egally commune to vs all what nedeth me to go aboute to reherce to you here the manyfolde exambles of the gentiles the whiche with a noble and a constaunt courage toke well in worthe the deth of theyr dere frendes In whiche constantnes of mynde is it nat a great rebuke