can_v be_v show_v again_o in_o all_o the_o scripture_n 2._o because_o this_o example_n be_v most_o fit_a for_o the_o apostle_n purpose_n who_o before_o vers_n 14._o 15._o exhort_v noe._n that_o we_o shall_v be_v content_a to_o suffer_v for_o righteousness_n and_o not_o to_o be_v ashamed_a of_o the_o profession_n of_o our_o faith_n then_o he_o strengthen_v his_o exhortation_n by_o certain_a reason_n as_o from_o the_o effect_n the_o confusion_n of_o those_o that_o speak_v evil_a of_o our_o conversation_n in_o christ_n 16_o from_o the_o efficient_a cause_n the_o will_n of_o god_n vers_fw-la 17_o then_o he_o do_v illustrate_v his_o doctrine_n by_o two_o example_n first_o of_o christ_n who_o suffer_v as_o a_o just_a man_n and_o be_v sustain_v in_o his_o suffering_n and_o quicken_v again_o second_o of_o noah_n who_o the_o lord_n uphold_v in_o his_o preach_n and_o profession_n against_o all_o the_o professor_n of_o the_o old_a world_n condemn_v they_o and_o save_v he_o 3._o because_o this_o example_n of_o noah_n deliverance_n by_o the_o ark_n do_v minister_v just_a occasion_n to_o the_o apostle_n to_o speak_v of_o baptism_n where_o of_o the_o other_o be_v a_o figure_n of_o the_o which_o he_o intend_v to_o speak_v thus_o our_o exposition_n be_v find_v every_o way_n suitable_a to_o the_o apostle_n purpose_n so_o be_v not_o the_o other_o and_o this_o may_v serve_v for_o another_o reason_n of_o this_o sense_n and_o interpretation_n give_v of_o this_o place_n argum._n 6._o the_o dead_a to_o who_o s._n peter_n say_v the_o gospel_n be_v preach_v chap._n 4._o 6_o be_v not_o then_o dead_a but_o live_v when_o the_o gospel_n be_v preach_v for_o the_o apostle_n add_v that_o they_o may_v be_v condemn_v according_a to_o man_n in_o the_o flesh_n and_o augustine_n infer_v well_o quo_fw-la modo_fw-la iudicantur_fw-la in_o carne_fw-la quam_fw-la non_fw-la habent_fw-la si_fw-la apud_fw-la inferos_fw-la sunt_fw-la how_o shall_v they_o be_v judge_v in_o the_o flesh_n which_o they_o have_v not_o if_o they_o be_v in_o hell_n but_o the_o spirit_n here_o preach_v to_o in_o prison_n be_v the_o same_o there_o call_v the_o dead_a and_o this_o bellarmine_n confess_v aug._n that_o this_o place_n be_v expound_v by_o the_o other_o ergo_fw-la the_o spirit_n here_o preach_v unto_o be_v not_o then_o dead_a bellarmine_n answer_v thus_o to_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o proposition_n thus_o expound_v the_o word_n that_o they_o may_v be_v condemn_v according_a to_o man_n in_o the_o flesh_n that_o be_v seem_v to_o be_v damn_v in_o man_n judgement_n because_o their_o body_n be_v kill_v in_o the_o water_n yet_o their_o spirit_n may_v live_v that_o be_v may_v be_v save_v before_o god_n contra._n first_o if_o the_o soul_n of_o they_o which_o die_v in_o the_o flood_n be_v save_v than_o they_o which_o die_v in_o infidelity_n and_o the_o wickedness_n may_v be_v save_v for_o s._n peter_n say_v that_o god_n bring_v the_o flood_n upon_o the_o ungodly_a 2._o pet._n 2._o 5._o second_o this_o condemn_v in_o the_o flesh_n and_o live_n in_o the_o spirit_n follow_v as_o a_o effect_n and_o sequel_n of_o the_o preach_a go_v before_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o this_o cause_n be_v the_o gospel_n preach_v &c_n &c_n but_o according_a to_o his_o sense_n the_o effect_n must_v go_v before_o the_o condemn_v of_o the_o flesh_n and_o the_o preach_v follow_v above_o two_o thousand_o year_n after_o when_o christ_n descend_v to_o hell_n three_o the_o apostle_n by_o be_v condemn_v in_o the_o flesh_n and_o live_v in_o the_o spirit_n understand_v the_o two_o part_n of_o regeneration_n mortification_n in_o put_v off_o the_o old_a man_n and_o renovation_n in_o put_v on_o the_o new_a as_o s._n paul_n speak_v 1._o cor._n 5._o 5_o let_v he_o be_v deliveuer_v to_o satan_n for_o the_o destruction_n of_o the_o flesh_n that_o the_o spirit_n may_v be_v save_v in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o lord_n this_o be_v not_o mean_v of_o the_o death_n of_o his_o body_n for_o the_o party_n live_v after_o and_o be_v reconcile_v to_o the_o church_n 2._o cor._n 2._o wherefore_o this_o mortify_n of_o the_o flesh_n and_o vivification_n of_o the_o spirit_n must_v be_v perform_v in_o this_o life_n as_o augustine_n well_o expound_v that_o they_o may_v be_v judge_v 99_o according_a to_o man_n in_o the_o flesh_n that_o be_v in_o diverse_a tribulation_n and_o in_o the_o death_n of_o the_o flesh_n etc._n etc._n but_o may_v live_v according_a to_o god_n in_o the_o spirit_n because_o they_o be_v mortify_v and_o dead_a therein_o while_o they_o be_v hold_v in_o the_o death_n of_o infidelity_n and_o impiety_n here_o augustine_n by_o be_v condemn_v in_o the_o flesh_n and_o live_n in_o the_o spirit_n understand_v the_o die_a unto_o infidelity_n and_o impiety_n argum._n 7._o this_o place_n serve_v not_o at_o all_o to_o prove_v the_o deliverance_n of_o the_o father_n out_o of_o limbus_n by_o christ_n descension_n thither_o 1._o those_o to_o who_o christ_n preach_v be_v say_v to_o be_v incredulous_a incredulous_a person_n or_o disobedient_a such_o be_v not_o the_o father_n ergo_fw-la whereas_o bellarmine_n say_v that_o some_o of_o they_o may_v repent_v before_o their_o death_n and_o so_o their_o soul_n may_v be_v save_v he_o speak_v without_o book_n for_o although_o i_o think_v not_o that_o all_o which_o perish_v in_o the_o water_n be_v damn_v as_o infant_n and_o such_o as_o hear_v not_o of_o noah_n his_o preach_v if_o any_o such_o be_v &_o so_o be_v not_o disobedient_a yet_o such_o as_o believe_v not_o and_o be_v disobedient_a be_v condemn_v to_o hell_n the_o apostle_n make_v no_o distinction_n of_o they_o but_o call_v they_o disobedient_a and_o the_o world_n of_o the_o wicked_a how_o then_o dare_v he_o say_v some_o of_o they_o repent_v before_o their_o death_n and_o so_o be_v not_o disobedient_a nor_o wicked_a 2._o the_o hell_n that_o christ_n descend_v unto_o he_o loose_v sorrow_n in_o for_o so_o the_o latin_a text_n read_v act._n 2._o 24._o have_v loose_v the_o sorrow_n of_o hell_n and_o the_o answerer_n approve_v this_o read_n pag._n 12._o but_o the_o father_n be_v not_o in_o the_o sorrow_n of_o hell_n but_o in_o abraham_n bosom_n a_o place_n of_o rest_n as_o augustine_n call_v it_o memorabilis_fw-la quietis_fw-la &_o faelicitatis_fw-la sinus_fw-la a_o famous_a place_n of_o rest_n and_o felicity_n and_o he_o further_o say_v how_o abraham_n 99_o into_o who_o bosom_n the_o poor_a man_n be_v receive_v can_v be_v understand_v to_o have_v be_v in_o these_o sorrow_n i_o can_v see_v the_o conclusion_n be_v this_o that_o the_o believe_a father_n be_v not_o deliver_v out_o of_o hell_n neither_o yet_o be_v unbeliever_n for_o si_fw-mi omnes_fw-la inde_fw-la hell_n soluit_fw-la exinanivit_fw-la inferna_fw-la for_o if_o he_o deliver_v all_o from_o thence_o then_o hell_n be_v empty_v august_n it_o follow_v then_o that_o if_o christ_n descend_v in_o soul_n to_o hell_n to_o loose_v the_o sorrow_n thereof_o and_o yet_o they_o be_v neither_o loose_v for_o believe_v father_n that_o be_v in_o no_o sorrow_n for_o abraham_n bosom_n be_v a_o place_n of_o comfort_n luk._n 16._o 25_o nor_o yet_o for_o unbeliever_n that_o can_v come_v out_o of_o hell_n ibid._n 26._o they_o can_v come_v from_o thence_o to_o we_o then_o it_o remain_v that_o he_o descend_v not_o at_o all_o in_o soul_n to_o hell_n for_o any_o such_o end_n 3._o the_o patriarch_n be_v not_o in_o hell_n at_o all_o therefore_o be_v not_o deliver_v thence_o they_o be_v in_o abraham_n bosom_n which_o be_v no_o part_n of_o hell_n augustine_n prove_v it_o by_o three_o reason_n first_o ne_o ipsos_fw-la quidem_fw-la inferos_fw-la uspiam_fw-la 99_o scripturarum_fw-la locis_fw-la in_fw-la bono_fw-mi appellatos_fw-la reperire_fw-la potui_fw-la i_o can_v not_o find_v in_o any_o place_n of_o scripture_n hell_n to_o be_v take_v in_o any_o good_a sense_n or_o the_o better_a part_n but_o abraham_n bosom_n be_v take_v in_o the_o better_a part_n ergo._fw-la second_o sinus_n ille_fw-la abrahae_fw-la secretae_fw-la quietis_fw-la habitatio_fw-la pars_fw-la aliqua_fw-la inferorum_fw-la hell_n credenda_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la a_o place_n of_o rest_n and_o comfort_n can_v be_v no_o part_n of_o hell_n but_o so_o be_v the_o bosom_n of_o abraham_n a_o place_n of_o rest_n ergo._fw-la three_o between_o abraham_n bosom_n and_o hell_n be_v a_o great_a gulf_n and_o distance_n luk._n 16._o 26._o whereupon_o he_o conclude_v apparet_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la quandam_fw-la partem_fw-la &_o membrum_fw-la inferorum_fw-la tantae_fw-la faelicitatis_fw-la sinum_fw-la it_o appear_v that_o a_o haven_n of_o so_o great_a happiness_n can_v be_v no_o part_n or_o member_n of_o hell_n argum._n 8._o the_o preach_v of_o christ_n to_o the_o spirit_n in_o prison_n sometime_o disobedient_a in_o the_o day_n of_o noah_n be_v a_o form_n and_o figure_n of_o the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n under_o the_o gospel_n for_o so_o s._n peter_n
sine_fw-la teste_fw-la sine_fw-la iudice_fw-la in_fw-la fida_fw-la aure_fw-la moriatur_fw-la de_fw-fr vest_n sacerd._n preface_n to_o the_o christian_a reader_n nâ—â—â—â—m_fw-la stulius_fw-la sum_fw-la ut_fw-la diversitate_fw-la explanationum_fw-la in_o arum_fw-la melaedi_fw-la putem_fw-la quia_fw-la nec_fw-la tu_fw-la laederis_fw-la si_fw-la contraria_fw-la nus_fw-la senserimus_fw-la synops._n p._n 1050._o bellarm._n c._n 32._o loc_n 4._o pro_fw-la ipsa_fw-la carne_fw-la proprie_fw-la accipitur_fw-la bellar._n ibid._n h._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sept._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d bellarm._n lib._n 4._o cap._n 10._o annot._n marginal_a in_o gen._n 37._o 35._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o covet_v or_o desire_v the_o inconvenience_n which_o follow_v in_o understanding_n s._n peter_n to_o speak_v of_o hell_n act._n 2._o 27._o the_o soul_n take_v for_o the_o life_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d septuagint_n pro_fw-la sepulchro_fw-la rarò_fw-la velnunquam_fw-la of_o the_o diverse_a acception_n of_o sheol_n in_o the_o scripture_n tremell_n &_o junius_n act._n 2._o 24._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lib._n 3._o the_o doctrine_n christian._n cap_n 9_o dico_fw-la igitur_fw-la nunuquam_fw-la praetermissuros_fw-la fuisse_fw-la euangelistas_fw-la istiusmodi_fw-la historiam_fw-la descensus_fw-la animae_fw-la christi_fw-la ad_fw-la inferos_fw-la bez._n annot_n in_o act._n c._n 2._o ver_fw-la 27._o diximus_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o euangelio_fw-la non_fw-la legimus_fw-la ibi_fw-la tamen_fw-la quaeramus_fw-la nam_fw-la si_fw-la ibi_fw-la non_fw-la invenimus_fw-la ubi_fw-la inveniemus_fw-la ego_fw-la vobis_fw-la fingere_fw-la potero_fw-la &_o subito_fw-la ero_fw-la non_fw-la certus_fw-la dispensator_fw-la sed_fw-la ineptus_fw-la fabulator_fw-la august_n in_o psal_n 92._o patet_fw-la neutiquam_fw-la licuisse_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la symbelo_fw-la quicquam_fw-la dimovere_fw-la jren._n lib._n 1._o c._n 2._o orig._n lib._n de_fw-la princip_n tertull._n cont_n prax._n bellar._n de_fw-fr christi_fw-la anim_fw-la lib._n 4._o cap._n 6._o synops._n p._n 1034_o the_o descent_n to_o limbus_n no_o anciét_v article_n of_o the_o faith_n quomodo_fw-la nova_fw-la inducuntur_fw-la quae_fw-la nunquam_fw-la nostri_fw-la sensere_fw-la maiores_fw-la leo_fw-la epist_n 97._o c._n 3._o requievit_fw-la ut_fw-la lo_o cum_fw-la in_o cruse_n positus_fw-la principatus_fw-la &_o potestates_fw-la exuit_fw-la &_o triumphavit_fw-la eas_fw-la cum_fw-la ligno_fw-la crucis_fw-la hom._n 17._o in_o numer_n licet_fw-la non_fw-la esset_fw-la necessaria_fw-la praesentia_fw-la animae_fw-la christi_fw-la tamen_fw-la congruum_fw-la esse_fw-la videbatur_fw-la ut_fw-la illa_fw-la esset_fw-la praesens_fw-la bellarm._n lib._n 4._o de_fw-la christi_fw-la anim_fw-la c._n 15._o christ_n word_n to_o the_o thief_n must_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o soul_n in_o paradise_n bernard_n ser._n 16_o in_o psal._n 91._o ipso_fw-la die_fw-la quo_fw-la compassitâ—_n &_o corregnavit_fw-la in_o solennit_n sanctor_n c._n 5._o si_fw-mi mortuo_fw-la corpore_fw-la ad_fw-la paradisum_fw-la anima_fw-la mox_fw-la voco_fw-la quenquamne_fw-la adhuc_fw-la tam_fw-la impium_fw-la credimus_fw-la qui_fw-la dicere_fw-la audeat_fw-la quoniam_fw-la anima_fw-la saluatoris_fw-la nostri_fw-la triduo_fw-la illo_fw-la corporeae_fw-la mortis_fw-la apud_fw-la inferos_fw-la custodiae_fw-la mancipetur_fw-la contr._n felician_n arrian_n lib._n cap._n 15._o sicut_fw-la egregij_fw-la bellatores_fw-la non_fw-la cum_fw-la caeteris_fw-la militibus_fw-la in_o divisione_n spoliorum_fw-la ducuntur_fw-la ad_fw-la sortem_fw-la sed_fw-la optima_fw-la quaeque_fw-la &_o praecipua_fw-la eye_v decernuntur_fw-la siâ—_n christus_fw-la quos_fw-la sâ—it_fw-la abundantiùs_fw-la laborasse_fw-la praecipuos_fw-la &_o ut_fw-la it_o a_o dicam_fw-la sibi_fw-la simile_n decernit_fw-la honores_fw-la quales_fw-la discipulis_fw-la suis_fw-la confer_v videtur_fw-la pater_fw-la volo_fw-la ut_fw-la ubi_fw-la ego_fw-la sum_fw-la illi_fw-la sint_fw-la mecum_fw-la hom._n 21._o numer_n ambros._n lib._n 2._o in_o luc._n cap._n 1._o ambrose_n refer_v christ_n descension_n to_o his_o divine_a nature_n christus_fw-la ut_fw-la defunctorum_fw-la animas_fw-la liberaret_fw-la &c_n &c_n operatus_fw-la est_fw-la in_o inferno_fw-la &_o tamen_fw-la quid_fw-la obstat_fw-la quo_fw-la minus_fw-la illam_fw-la divinam_fw-la intelligas_fw-la substantiam_fw-la cum_fw-la deus_fw-la ubique_fw-la sit_fw-la etc._n etc._n dewrought_a in_o hell_n and_o what_o let_v but_o we_o may_v understand_v his_o divine_a substance_n see_v god_n be_v every_o where_o as_o it_o be_v say_v if_o i_o ascend_v to_o heaven_n thou_o be_v there_o if_o i_o descend_v nique_fw-la ad_fw-la substantiam_fw-la divinam_fw-la derivandum_fw-la esse_fw-la intellectum_fw-la sequentibus_fw-la declaravit_fw-la inoperatum_fw-la meum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o inoperatum_fw-la atque_fw-la increatum_fw-la verbum_fw-la lib._n 3._o de_fw-la fide_fw-la c._n 7._o ambros_n exhor_n ad_fw-la virgin_n christ_n loose_v not_o the_o sorrow_n of_o hell_n after_o his_o death_n the_o answerer_n detect_v to_o be_v a_o limbist_n a_o bold_a and_o dangerous_a charge_n and_o imputation_n upon_o the_o apostle_n what_o be_v understand_v by_o this_o word_n flesh_n how_o the_o divine_a nature_n of_o christ_n be_v say_v to_o go_v and_o come_v in_o what_o sense_n man_n live_v be_v call_v spirit_n ex_fw-la circumstantia_fw-la loci_fw-la apparet_fw-la eum_fw-la intelligere_fw-la eos_fw-la qui_fw-la nunc_fw-la mortuisunt_fw-la sed_fw-la olim_fw-la in_o vita_fw-la euangelium_fw-la audiverunt_fw-la in_o epist_n ad_fw-la roman_n tolerabilius_fw-la in_o suis_fw-la foveis_fw-la delitescerent_fw-la vulpes_fw-la quam_fw-la propter_fw-la illas_fw-la capiendas_fw-la in_o erroris_fw-la foveam_fw-la inciderent_fw-la venatores_fw-la de_fw-fr mendac_fw-la lib._n 2._o 9_o cont._n felician_n arian_n c._n 13._o a_o heresy_n to_o hold_v that_o any_o in_o hell_n believe_v in_o christ._n alia_fw-la christo_fw-la descendente_fw-la ad_fw-la inferos_fw-la credidisse_fw-la incredulos_fw-la &_o omnes_fw-la inde_fw-la existimat_fw-la liberatos_fw-la august_n haeres_fw-la 79._o peri_n arch_n lib._n 2_o cap._n 5._o origens_n error_n lib._n 4._o de_fw-la christi_fw-la anim_fw-la c._n 14._o calvin_n misalledge_v bellar._n lib_n 4._o the_o christ._n anim_fw-la cap._n 13._o augustine_n objection_n that_o saint_n peter_n speak_v not_o of_o christ_n descent_n into_o hell_n in_o soul_n anima_fw-la christi_fw-la nullo_fw-la mortificata_fw-la peccato_fw-la vel_fw-la damnatione_fw-la punita_fw-la est_fw-la ideo_fw-la non_fw-la secundum_fw-la ipsam_fw-la dici_fw-la potuit_fw-la vivificatus_fw-la spiritu_fw-la epist_n 99_o 99_o a._n vv._n in_o his_o synops._n papis_fw-la 351._o of_o the_o last_o edition_n nothing_o can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v quicken_v that_o be_v not_o apt_a to_o die_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o answerer_n misreport_v the_o writer_n of_o synopsis_n his_o word_n vivificatus_fw-la spiritu_fw-la quia_fw-la illo_fw-la spiritu_fw-la operame_n in_fw-la quo_fw-la ad_fw-la quos_fw-la veniebat_fw-la praedieabat_fw-la etiam_fw-la ipsa_fw-la caro_fw-la vivisicata_fw-la surrexit_fw-la in_fw-la qua_fw-la modo_fw-la ad_fw-la homines_fw-la venit_fw-la epistol_n 99_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d singula_fw-la eius_fw-la opera_fw-la ad_fw-la hanc_fw-la sive_fw-la illam_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la pertinere_fw-la naturam_fw-la ad_fw-la hanc_fw-la scilicet_fw-la miseria_fw-la ad_fw-la illam_fw-la pertinet_fw-la potentia_fw-la serm_n de_fw-fr verb._n sapient_a the_o answerer_n herein_o be_v wrai_v great_a ignorance_n et_fw-la ipse_fw-la quidem_fw-la filius_fw-la in_o substantia_fw-la deitatis_fw-la spiritus_fw-la est_fw-la &_o quid_fw-la facit_fw-la filius_fw-la sine_fw-la spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la vel_fw-la sine_fw-la patre_fw-la cum_fw-la inseparabilia_fw-la sunt_fw-la opera_fw-la trinitatis_fw-la epist._n 99_o ad_fw-la caeteros_fw-la talpae_fw-la ad_fw-la illum_fw-la caprearum_fw-la ocules_fw-la possides_fw-la canino_n dente_fw-la i_o rodunt_fw-la in_fw-la publico_fw-la detrahentes_fw-la legentes_fw-la in_o angulis_fw-la ijdem_fw-la &_o accusatores_fw-la &_o defensores_fw-la cum_fw-la in_o alijs_fw-la probâ—â—t_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o i_o reprobent_fw-la quasi_fw-la virtus_fw-la &_o vitium_fw-la non_fw-la in_o rebus_fw-la sit_fw-la sed_fw-la cum_fw-la authoribus_fw-la muletur_fw-la praefat_fw-la in_o paralipp_n synops._n p._n 350._o how_o noah_n preach_v in_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ._n micron_n oceano_fw-la priusquam_fw-la veniret_fw-la in_o come_v pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la moritâ—ruâ—_n quod_fw-la semel_fw-la secit_fw-la sape_fw-la antea_fw-la veniebat_fw-la in_o tu_fw-la spiritu_fw-la ad_fw-la quos_fw-la volebat_fw-la visis_fw-la eos_fw-la admonens_fw-la sicut_fw-la volebat_fw-la epistol_n 99_o christ_n say_v in_o scripture_n to_o preach_v in_o his_o divine_a nature_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 2._o pet._n 2._o 5._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d si_fw-mi codices_fw-la variarent_fw-la plures_fw-la paucioribus_fw-la aut_fw-la vetustiores_fw-la recentioribus_fw-la praeferantur_fw-la cont_n faust._n lib._n 11._o c._n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o answerer_n put_v to_o a_o hard_a choice_n to_o be_v a_o papist_n a_o heretic_n or_o a_o trifler_n quo_fw-la modo_fw-la ille_fw-la non_fw-la praedicavit_fw-la sed_fw-la illis_fw-la tantum_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o diebus_fw-la noah_n increduli_fw-la erant_fw-la aut_fw-la si_fw-la omnibus_fw-la praedicavit_fw-la cur_n illos_fw-la solos_fw-la commemoravit_fw-la praetermissa_fw-la multitudine_fw-la tam_fw-la innumerabile_fw-la â—aeterorum_fw-la epist._n 99_o why_o saint_n peter_n make_v mention_v only_o of_o the_o preach_n in_o the_o time_n of_o noe._n bellar._n lib_n 4._o do_v christ_n anim_fw-la cap_n 13._o resp_n ad_fw-la 1._o object_n 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