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An expositio[n] of the .4. chap. of S. Joans Reuelation made by Bar. Traheron, in sondrie readinges before his countre men in Germanie. Where in the prouide[n]ce of God is treated with an annswer made to the obiection of a gentle aduersarie; Exposition of the .4. chap. of S. Joans Revelation.
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Traheron, Bartholomew, 1510?-1558?
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