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madness for any man that believes the Unity thereof to imagine that any Doctor that held with that Unity can bee found to teach otherwise S. Augustine is remarkable The stress lyes upon him and upon those Books the occasion whereof is to enquire how it comes to pass that so many that had attained to the state of Gods grace do not dye in it But though I admire at the wilfulness with which this mistake The danger of the contrary Position according to the ground of it is maintained against all Christendom Old and New but those who follow Calvin Yet I value the dange● of it to the Salvation of him that hath it according to the opinion of Justification which it is joyned with For if it come from an assurance of a mans Praedestination As if such a one being once justified cannot incurre the state of damnation by any sin Taking that opinion for an Haeresie I must needs take this for a Position destructive to Salvation It is otherwise with those that make Repentance to go before justifying Faith For it is true that if a man have no ground that hee is reconciled to God till his first conversion hee can have no ground that hee is reconciled to God of any sin that hee falls into afterwards till hee have performed his Repentance And therefore they contradict themselves if they imagine that being actually in the state of damnation a man may have that trust in God which justifying Faith signifies before hee turn from his sin by Repentance But the worse Divines the better Christians And the truth which they hold suffereth not the venim of that opinion which is indeed inconsistent with the same to operate CHAP. XI What Law of God it is that may bee fulfilled by a Christian Of doing more then Gods Law requireth Whether our Lord gave a New Law or not Of the Satisfaction and Merit of Christian Works Original Sin is not Adams sin imputed to his Posterity Wherein Original Sin consisteth What Original Righteousness signifieth What good the Vnregenerate are able to do by the Law of Nature BUt this Resolution perfectly reconcileth two of those Controversies What Law of God i● is that may bee fulfilled by a Christian which wee have with the Church of Rome about Justification and the points annexed to it That of the possibility of fulfilling Gods Law for a Christian And that of satisfying for sin and of meriting Grace or Glory by the good works of a Christian For it is certain that the Law which God gave Adam in Paradise as having created him in his Original Uprightness can never bee fulfilled by the Grace which the death of Christ tendreth in this bondage under Original Sin But if wee speak of the New Law which the Gospel of Christ enacteth S. James calleth it the Law of liberty S. Paul the Law of the Spirit of life it is evident by the premises that if it bee not fulfilled then is Christ dead in vain then do wee receive his Grace in vain and cannot bee saved but are still in our sins For every Covenant every contract is a Law to the parties And though God need not contract with his creature which hee may give Law to at pleasure Yet if hee condescend to treat and to contract with man hee intends not to abuse him by contracting for that which cannot come to effect Therefore hee doth not contract with him upon condition that hee shall not sinne who born in Original Sin sinneth daily But upon condition that if hee fall into sin hee return by repentance and blotting out his former sin by works meet for repentance proceed in newness of life for the future And upon these terms the Original Law of Righteousness in Paradise doth not become void but continueth in force for the regulating of the righteousness which Christians are to live by and to aim at Whether or no inhaunsed in consideration of that great Grace of God bringing Salvation to all which hath appeared by the Gospel above that measure which the Original Righteousness of Paradise required I dispute not yet But the Law of Moses upon these terms will be the reviving of the Original Law of Paradise as to the effect of attaining and holding the Land of Canaan a figure correspondent as well to the earthly as to the heavenly Paradise by that outward obedience which the letter of the Ceremonial and Judicial Law required And upon these terms the Thief upon the Cross dying in the state of Grace fulfilled Gods Law Fulfilling all that which the Covenant of Grace required of him for his Salvation in that estate And if there bee such a thing as Repentance effectual to Salvation upon the bed of death which the Rules of the Church do not warrant us to presume of though they oblige us not to despair of it Then hee who is effectually converted to God upon his last bed of death hath fulfilled Gods Law As for going beyond the Law by works of Supererogation O● doing more then Gods Law requireth It is easie to see that according to the premises hee that cannot do what Gods Original Law requires cannot do more But it is as easie to see that some circumstances may conduce to the performance of our Christianity that are no part of it And therefore the Vow of Baptisme binds not to them If Marriage stand with Christianity what Christian is forbidden Marriage Yet single life is the safer way to perfection in Christianity So is the profession of the Clergy and all the means of further retirement from the world then the taking up of Christs Cross signifies And the Grace which our Lord and S. Paul after him ownes in them that do this is not a peculiar temper of the body obliging him that hath it to live single and him that hath it not to marry But a singular zeal to wave that which God makes lawful for us that wee may the better come to his Kingdom Which when it proceeds with a single eye proposing to it self nothing of this world but the means of attaining to the world to come Well may wee bee assured of Gods help to perform it by virtue of that promise which the Common Christianity challengeth intending nothing but the effect of it I do believe further that wee who live under the Gospel Whether our Law give a New Law or n●t are tyed to a higher degree of goodness then those who lived under the Law were as for the condition of continuing in the state of Gods Grace And that this is the best reason for many actions of holy persons sometimes not condemned sometimes commended in the Old Testament which notwithstanding agree not with that perfection which our Lord by his Sermon in the mountain preacheth To wit that either they were accepted by God in that estate or at least might stand with the state of his Grace But this is not to say that our Lord by those Precepts which hee
sinner exact of himself that Penance which the Church would or ought to impose But whether all sinners can bee brought to know what that is or knowing to impose it upon themselves let the common reason of Christians judge They that assure them of pardon and the favour of God without it whether it bee themselves or their false teachers plainly they murther their souls The Church of Rome in making the Keys of the Church the necessary means for pardon of all sin that voids the Grace of Baptisme goes beyond the bounds of truth In procuring a Law that all submit to it once a year goes not beyond the bounds of Justice It were to bee wished that the abuses of that Law might be cured without taking it away For if it bee the power of the Keys that makes the Church the Church It will bee hard to shew the face of a Church where the blessing of the Church and the Communion of the Eucharist is granted and yet no power of the Keys at all exercised Nay it will appear a lamentable case to consider how simple innocent Christians are led on till death in an opinion that they want nothing requisite for the obtaining and assuring of the pardon of their sins when it is as manifest that they want the Keys of the Church as it is manifest that the Keys of the Church are not in use for that purpose St. James ordaineth that the Presbyters of every Church Of anointing the sick according to S. James pray for the sick with a promise of pardon for their sins This supposeth them qualified by submitting their sins to the Keys of the Church which the Presbyters do manage The promise belongs not to the Office of Presbyters upon other terms Hee requireth them also to anoint the sick with oyl promising Recovery upon it Not to all that should bee anointed For Christians then should not dye if true Christians But as the Disciples of our Lord had used it to evidence their Commission to the World So was the manifestation of Gods Spirit residing in the Church granted for the benefit of his Church Neither is there any cause why the same benefit should not bee expected but the decay of Christianity in the Church In the mean time the forgiveness of sin according to St. James comes by the Keys of the Church Recovery of health from the prayers of it So the Unction of the sick is to recover health not to prepare for death as the Church of Rome now useth it But supposing the health of the soul restored by the Keys of the Church All the pretenses for Divorce of lawful Mariages all the incestuous Mariage of Christia●● not to bee Ruled by Moses Law Contracts all the unchristian solemnizing of Christian Wedlock which the blessed Reformation hath authorized are to bee attributed to one mistake that the Mariage of Christians stands by the Law of Moses not by the Gospel of Christ Our Presbyterians in their Confession of Faith duely prohibit Mariage in those degrees of alliance which are prohibited in blood But out of Leviticus if they will prove it their word must serve for our warrant that this is the sense If Man and Wife bee one flesh then is a Man as neer his Wifes Kin as his own But man and wife are not one flesh by Moses Law licensing plurality of wives and divorce though by the Law of Paradise It was dispensed with after the Flood and not revived but by our Lord. That Divorce and plurality of wives was not restrained but by the Gospel it is impudence to Dispute much more to deny The Mariage of the Niece with the Uncle of the half blood hath puzzled all them that would make it unlawful by Moses Law The Mariage of a Christian with two Sisters successive will bee as hard to condemn by the same Granting the premises all these Disputes cease Mariage is the Bond of one with one not to bee dissolved till death by the Law of Christ not by the Law of Moses Whether Adultery dissolve the Bond or not I leave it disputable for the present as I find it Mariage with a Pagan was void by Moses Law St. Paul enables Christians to hold to it Therefore hee refers them not to the Law Christianity improves Moses Law in all things Therefore Christians cannot be regulated by Moses Law in Matrimonial causes Therefore in the prohibiting of degrees as well as of divorce For Moses Law prohibits more then that Law which the Children of Noah received after Flood had done It were better to restrain all that which the present Canon Law restrains then that the incests of the late licentious times should bee tolerated For the present Canon Law restrains not much more then the Greek Church restrains But if the Authority thereof bee not binding by reason of the Usurpations of the Church of Rome yet to depart from the Canons of the Whole Church and of those times which wee acknowledg would bee a departure from the whole Church Hee that would bar the Cross in Baptisme for fear it should Instituted Ceremonies are Sacraments with the Fathers bee taken for a Sacrament what would hee say to St. Ambrose that cals it down right a Sacrament I know not what hee would say I know what hee should do Hee should understand St. Ambrose by St. Ambrose when hee makes a Kiss to bee a Sacrament as a Religious sign of that Religious Affection which Kinsfolk professed to their neer Kinsfolk whom in his time they saluted with a Kiss to signifie that as St. Ambrose declareth At this rate St. Pauls holy kiss must needs bee a Sacrament For it was a Religious signe of that charity which Christians professed to Christians when they were to receive the Communion with them At this rate it is no marvel that there are found seven Sacraments in the Fathers For there are more then seven to bee found if there bee as many Sacraments as Ceremonies instituted by the Church If this bee true the discharging of instituted Ceremonies The Ceremonies of these Offices justifie instituted Ceremonies will bee a Defection from Gods Church If Confirmation Ordination and Penance bee Offices in which the Church is indebted to God and to his Church If the effect of them bee of such consequence that they have been always solemnized with the Imposition of hands that Ceremony shall bee enough to make them Sacraments at this rate and yet no neerer to Baptisme and to the Eucharist then that reason of the difference which I have setled will allow Nay let the prayers of the Church for the recovery of the sick who submit to the Keys of the Church bee solemnized with anointing a thing fit enou●h to bee done may but the ground upon which and the intent to which it is done appear and that shall bee a Sacrament and yet the want of it no more prejudice to salvation then the disusing of the Kiss of peace which
the whole Church is more destructive to the substance of Christianity then all that corruption which the Reformation pretendeth to cure But to confining our sense of the Scripture our opinions in mater of Doctrine and the Laws which wee demand within that which the Faith and the Laws of the whole Church may appear to require wee are half the way onward to the point of Reformation having the ground and the reason and therefore the measure and the terms of it The mistake of the Schools and of the Council of Trent after The Fanaticks further from the truth of Christianity then the Church of Rome the Schools in the nature of Justification and the effect of infused righteousness to which they ascribe it is no way destructive to Christianity No more is the opinion of satisfaction and merit in the good works of Christians so long as it is grounded upon Gods promise which they that inflame that opinion to the highest in the Church of Rome must acknowledg to come into consideration whether they will or not As for the merit of Grace by the works which a natural man is able to do commonly called meritum congrui as that which is fit for God to give though not for the worth of the works It is indeed an Errour of greater danger but never was general in the School and now generally disallowed so far it was always from being enjoyned by the Church But what is this in comparison of that furious Doctrine that the assurance of a mans Predestination is justifying Faith In which the opinion of absolute Predestination to Glory and of Gods predetermining a man to do all that hee doth is twisted together with an Enthusiasme that wee are justified and made the children of God by being assured hereof by his Spirit Not supposing any condition of Christianity in consideration of which it is had and by the knowledg whereof it is assured us For they that believe that Gods predetermination is the reason and the ground of freedom in mans Will and of contingence in the effects of it supposing freedom and contingence do thereby bar the ill consequence of their own mistake But hee that can think himself assured of that which the Gospel promiseth not being assured that hee performeth the Christianity which by his Baptisme hee undertaketh why should hee hold himself tied why should hee study and endeavour himself to perform it Nay holding his Christianity and the Scriptures which The consequence of their principle worse then that of Infallibility teach it by the same dictate of the Spirit which assures his salvation upon those terms why should hee not hold that which Christianity and the Scriptures teach not with the same devotion and assurance which he accepteth the Scriptures and his Christianity with Why should hee not with the Gnostickes and Mahomet and the Mannichees place his salvation in that which the Spirit teacheth him beside and above the Scriptures allowing Christianity for proficients The same consequence takes hold in some measure of those who believe the Infallibility of the present Church For making the sentence thereof the only reason of believing they tye themselves to accept whatsoever it shall decree for mater of Faith and therefore concerning their salvation as much as it concerns their salvation to believe the holy Trinity Indeed there is not so much danger for them For the persons on whom they repose themselves for the Church being persons of that interest in the World which cannot stand with the open corrupting of Christianity The fear is that they may authorize those corruptions which the coming of the World into the Church shall make popular Not that they shall think it for their interest to change that which it is not popular to change In the mean time having shewed the point of Reformation The point of Truth in the middle between both by shewing the point of truth whereby all that the Reformation disputes with the Church of Rome is cleared namely that that Faith which moveth to undertake Baptism is the Faith which alone justifieth I have shewed withal that the express profession hereof is that which must clear us from all impu●ation of the Schism with the Church of Rome and of compliance with any Fanaticks that have taught the opposite Haeresie being by such profession excluded from all liberty of teaching it for the future They who take justifying Faith to bee Confidence in God through our Lord Christ do commit the mistake which I have shewed And if they go farther to think that by being assured of Gods Grace they can never dye cut of that estate they may indeed think themselves tyed to return to God by Repentance But may they not easily bee deluded to neglect it thinking themselves certain before hand that they shall do it Which if it bee considered the danger of the mistake will appear no less then that which the Doctrine of the Council of Trent threatneth As for the Question between mans free Will and Gods Praedestination How Salvation is concerned in the matter of Free Will and Grace and Grace taking it by it self as not complicated and twisted with the other concerning justifying Faith the difficulty of it being so great as it is the true resolution of it which is the reconcilement of Grace with free Will can by no means seem to concern the substance of Faith necessary to bee held for the Salvation of all Christians But the denying either of mans free Will or Gods free Grace may and certainly doth concern it And therefore the second Council of Orange having determined as well that no man is appointed by God to death and therefore to sin as that whosoever perseveres until Death is appointed by God unto effectual Grace there appears no necessity why the Church should run any hazard of division by decree●ng farther in the Point which wee see come to pass in the United Provinces having that decree received of old by the Western Church to settle the bounds of necessary Truth Nor is there any other means of settle the necessity of Baptism Salvation concerned in the Sacrament● ●pon the same terms and of the Holy Eucharist but the profession of this truth for the sense of our Creed in the Article of one Baptism for the remission of s●ns the neglect whereof hath occasioned not only the Sects of our Anabaptists Q●akers and other Enthusiasts and Fanaticks but hath given S●cinus ground enough to count Baptism indifferent And some of our Fanaticks to think it a meer mistake that any man was ever baptized with water to make him a Christian since the ceasing of Moses Law and Johns Baptism As for the Sacrament of the Eucharist that which concerneth Salvation in it is manifest admitting the Premises Namely that they who make good or revive the Covenant of their Baptism in receiving it shall receive the body and blood of Christ and by consequence his Spirit hypostatically united to the
bee but a Church in name that shall bee Ruled by the fansies of those whom it is to Rule And when the interest of publick peace so visibly concurreth with the interest of saving souls it will hardly become the profession of a Christian Kingdom not to trust God for the success of that which is designed upon so Christian considerations This is the place where the first Service ended and the second Of that which goes before the Preface in our Communion Service began in the antient Church The Creed follows after the Sermon in Dionysius who writing a little before the Council at Chalcedon is the first that mentions it in the Service Hee calls it an Hymn and wee may call it the Catholick Hymn glorifying God for the substance of Christianity with his whole Church That which wee call the second Service following immediately hereupon was nothing but the Eucharist and the prayers of the Church which it is to bee celebrated with And that is the reason why I do not think our Communion Service sufficient for those Assemblies in which the first is too long to hee used For the Office ought to consist of Psalmes and Lessons with Hymnes interposed of an instruction and of the Eucharist with the prayers which it is celebrated with Now it hath been always the use of Christs Whole Church even from the Apostles to offer at the Eucharist both the Bread and Wine which it is to bee consecrated of and also what their hearts moved them to contribute for the maintenance of Gods Service And therefore the Prayer for the whole state of Christs Church is here proper in regard of those that offer to that purpose the rest that offer not concurring with their prayers to that effect for which they offer The confession of sins afore the Eucharist is seen in some of the antient Liturgies nor do I find it questioned on any hand as either unseasonable or not requisite in this Action The Decalogue and Answers which since Q. Elizabeths time wee begin the Communion Service with seem more proper to be placed here to branch forth the particulars of those sins which wee confess For the Commandments are certain heads to which men may refer the sins for which they ask pardon and grace to avoid them But there is great reason why they are not found in the Service of the antient Church The reason is because the Decalogue is proper to the Law and unproper to Christianity and it is a sad effect hereof which wee see For it is certain and manifest that the Sabbatarian error hath had the rise or increase from the construction which ignorant Preachers have made of the prayer for remission of sins against this fourth Commandment which the Church prescribeth Nor have I ever found any authority of the Church for using the Decalogue for the Rule by which the sins of Christians are to bee ranked but only in some late Offices of those ages which wee who profess the Reformation are not to own After the confession of sins the General Preface which follows Of the Prefaces and the Prayers of Consecration after Sursum corda would bee inlarged with thanksgiving to God for making the World and man for not forsaking man having forsaken him when hee was made Lord of his Creatures but first sending the Fathers to reclaim their several Ages then giving the Law and the Prophets to instruct his own people in his service And when these means took not the effect which hee sought for sending his Son to redeem and reconcile us to him by the death of his Cross After this the Proper Prefaces and the Seraphims Hymn are of too antient and general use in the Catholick Church to bee omitted without a mark of Apostasie from the devotion of it which they express The Prayer which wee consecrate with seemeth agreeable to the intent of Gods Church but more agreeable in that form which the first Book of Edward the VI. revived by the Scotish Liturgy prescribeth And that Memorial or Prayer of Oblation which is there prescribled to follow immediately after the Consecration is certainly more proper there then after the Communion ending with the Lords Prayer and the Peace after that For this is the form of the whole Church so constant and so uniform that I am thereby perswaded that the close of it For thine is the Kingdom the the Power and the Glory for ever and ever being alwaies frequented by the Church either in terms or in substance in this place upon that occasion afterwards came to bee put into the Copies of St. Matthews Gospel For it is well enough known how many antient Copies and Commentaries have it not But there is not any of the antient Liturgies that hath not some form of Doxology in this place either in the same terms or to the same purpose And seeing it is manifest that the Kiss of Peace is an Apostolical custom and used in the Western Church before the Communion though before the Consecration in other places though the Ceremony bee set aside in regard of the change of times and customs it should not seem burthensome that the Christianity is remembred which it expresseth But if my Opinion might pass I would not rest contented Of the Prayer of Oblation and the place of it herewith I would enlarge this Memoral with all the Principal heads of our Litanies which might seem to comprize the necessities of all estates and conditions in the Church according to that measure which the Time would allow For this would bee the offering of Christs sacrifice upon the Crosse for the necessities of all Christian people which the whole Church of Christ hath alwaies frequented from the beginning without any pretense of sacrificing him again no reason requiring any more then to commemorate that sacrifice And here would there bee room for all private and publick necessities as well of the Church and Kingdom of the Diocese Province and Country and the respective Governours thereof as of the Congregration and of any particular member of it and that according to such Order as the Ordinary may find cause to give in cases that do indeed require a provision for the Time The antients celebrating the Eucharist every day had by that means daily opportunity of interceding for particular necessities according to St. Pauls order for such intercessions the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifieth They that consider not the defect which follows upon the decay of this order are ready to impute the defect that is found of forms of intercession for particular occurrences to the prescribing of set forms by the Church not allowing the arbitrary fansies of Curates But hee that hath known the manifold folly malice that our London Pulpits have vented taking upon them to intercede for what occasions they think fit in what form they please will find it absolutely necessary to redeem the scorne that our profession suffers from such disorders by
they bee members of Gods Church That is setting aside their Baptism and the Covenant which is solemnly inacted by it between God and each soul And though I do refer my self to the wisdom of Superiors in what form this reconciliation bee solemnized yet I must express my opinion thus far that there can bee none so fit as that which the wisdom of the Catholick Church from the beginning hath alwaies frequented By granting them the blessing of the Church with Imposition of hands renouncing for their part their several Sects and Errors That is by the praiers of the Church for the Spirit of God to rest upon them who have barred their baptism from giving it by opposing the peace of the Church which now they retire unto For how shall the Unity of the Church bee secured but by declaring them who violate the same accursed of God Nor let it bee thought that our Sectaries of their own accord retiring themselves unto the Communion of this Church it will bee requisite for the Church to admit them without taking notice of any thing that hath passed For neither is it to bee presumed that they who have made their own wills their Law for so many years will so much as profess conformitie to the Rule of the Church And if they did profess it there is no reason to think that they should stand to it having a dispensation dormant of the Spirit to stand to their profession as the interest of their faction shall require So their coming to Church would bee only an advantage for them to infect others And how should that Communion bee counted a Church which intertains Haereticks as Haereticks and Schismaticks as Schismaticks that is without renouncing positions destructive to the Faith without obliging themselves for the future to hold Unity with the Church Certainly there is no just answer for this if the Church of Rome should object it for the reason why they refuse to hold communion with us Certainly St. Augustine when hee was charged by the Donatists that the Church received their Apostates without rebaptizing them and in their respective Orders could have had no answer if he had not had this That the Church received them not as Donatists but as converted from being Donatists they not refusing to profess so much Certainly it may bee and perhaps is justifiable for the Secular Power to grant them the exercise of their Religion in private places of their own providing under such moderate penalties as the disobeying of the Laws of a mans Country might require For persecution to death for that cause the whole Reformation condemneth in the Church of Rome And I conceive there is no reason for that which will not condemn persecution to banishment But this would require the like moderation to bee extended to Recusants of the Church of Rome True it is in mine opinion those Papists that think themselves tied by the Bull of Pius V. against Queen Elizabeth or that they may bee tied by the like Acts of his Successors against hers are justly liable to the utmost of penalties as professed enemies to their Country But besides that it is manifest that all Papists are not of that opinion which the said Bull presupposeth The State may easier be secured of Papists against all such power in the Pope then of our Sectaries against that dispensation to their Allegiance which the pretense of Gods Spirit may import when they please And whereas it is manifest that many Papists hold against those equivocations and reservations which destroy all confidence of the Sovereign in his Subjects allegiance How shall a State bee secured against that infamous falsehood of the late Usurper in any man that pretends Gods Spirit upon his terms which I mentioned afore Besides the Recusants being for the most part of the good Families of the Nation will take it for a part of their Nobility freely to profess themselves in their Religion if they understand themselves whereas the Sectaries being people of mean qualitie for the most part cannot bee presumed to stand upon their reputation so much So if they cannot bee tolerated in the exercise of their Religion it must bee provided upon what terms they may bee received by the Church And by that which hath been said it may appear what my opinion will require of the Presbyterians for the condition of reconciling our selves into one Church again Namely in the first place their submission to the Act or Decree or Order according to which the Sectaries ought to bee tied to renounce the damnable positions which they have notoriously set on foot For if they should refuse this what reason could bee alleged why they should bee counted Strangers to that infection which they will not exclude As for the other Article of the Creed concerning one Visible Church it is evident that they cannot belong to that Church supposing the Premises For it is evident that there was a time when the whole Church was governed by Bishops and that not against Gods Law for then there had remained no Church And therefore for them to break the Unity of the Church upon pretense of governing this Church by Presbyters is to break Unity unless a part may give Law to the whole which who so do are for so doing Schismaticks And the Church of Rome would have due cause to cast us off for Schismaticks if wee should admit this pretense But this is a point the knowledg whereof cannot belong to the substance of Christianity for the reason alleged before And therefore I do not think the Church tied to exact the express profession of it or the disclaiming of the error that is opposite to it On the other side the Church maintaining the Ordinations of Presbyters alone to bee meer nullities in themselves can never own their Ordinations without renouncing the Catholick Church yet may it consent in the persons upon their consent to the order which shall bee established for the future And indeed what can they challenge by the meer consent of certain Presbyters which the Ministers of Congregations may not pretend to by the consent of their respective Congregations And yet I suppose both parties are agreed not to own them in that Power which the celebration of the Eucharist importeth Let any man that is capable to judge of such maters think upon the madness of the Lancashire Presbyterians without prejudice Of whom I am duly informed that they caused those who were ordained only Deacons in the Church of England to do the office of Presbyters which they had no title to in celebrating the Eucharist And tell me what reason there can bee excluding the Ordinations of the Congregations to admit the usurpations of the Presbyterians As for the form and solemnity in which the consent of the Church to their Ordinations shall bee celebrateed therein I refer my self to the wisdom of Superiors Thinking it would bee a great impertinence in the Presbyterians if finding a necessity of submitting