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A12482 An answer to Thomas Bels late challeng named by him The dovvnfal of popery wherin al his arguments are answered, his manifold vntruths, slaunders, ignorance, contradictions, and corruption of Scripture, & Fathers discouered and disproued: with one table of the articles and chapter, and an other of the more markable things conteyned in this booke. VVhat controuersies be here handled is declared in the next page. By S.R. Smith, Richard, 1566-1655. 1605 (1605) STC 22809; ESTC S110779 275,199 548

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be_v the_o author_n of_o injustice_n or_o unjust_a as_o affirm_v s._n hierom_n dialog_n 1._o contr_n pelag._n and_o s._n austin_n the_o nat_n &_o great_a cap._n 69._o and_o serm_v 61._o the_o temp_n for_o it_o be_v a_o unjust_a law_n which_o be_v impossible_a and_o to_o punish_v breaker_n be_v against_o right_n and_o equity_n as_o bel_n himself_o will_v grant_v if_o upon_o pain_n of_o death_n he_o be_v bid_v to_o fly_v to_o heaven_n and_o execute_v if_o he_o do_v not_o wherefore_o s._n hierom_n epist_n ad_fw-la ctesiphont_n writhus_fw-la hieron_n s._n hieron_n we_o pronounce_v the_o commander_n unjust_a while_o we_o complain_v that_o the_o very_a author_n of_o equity_n have_v command_v impossible_a thing_n and_o simon_n magus_n say_v vincent_n lirinen_n make_v god_n author_n of_o lirin_fw-mi vincent_n lirin_fw-mi sin_n in_o affirm_v we_o to_o sin_n of_o necessity_n now_o let_v we_o see_v bell_n proof_n to_o the_o contrary_n chap._n iii_o bell_n argument_n out_o of_o scripture_n against_o the_o possibility_n of_o keep_v god_n commandment_n answer_v bell_n prove_v god_n commandment_n to_o be_v impossible_a first_o out_o of_o s._n james_n say_v we_o all_o offend_v in_o many_o thing_n answer_n 2._o jacob_n 3._o v._n 2._o si_fw-mi quis_fw-la in_o verbo_fw-la non_fw-la offendit_fw-la hic_fw-la perfectus_fw-la est_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la v._o 2._o s._n james_n mean_v of_o venial_a sin_n as_o idle_a word_n be_v whereof_o he_o speak_v in_o the_o same_o verse_n and_o though_o bel_n reply_n that_o he_o have_v already_o prove_v that_o every_o sin_n be_v mortal_a in_o it_o own_o nature_n yet_o neither_o be_v that_o true_a 6._o art_n 6._o cap._n 6._o as_o before_o be_v show_v nether_a though_o it_o be_v can_v it_o disprove_v my_o answer_n for_o it_o suffice_v which_o bel_n deny_v not_o that_o there_o indeed_o 81._o bel_n art_n 6._o pag._n 81._o be_v venial_a sin_n whether_o they_o be_v such_o by_o their_o own_o nature_n or_o by_o god_n mercy_n in_o the_o which_o just_a man_n may_v offend_v and_o not_o break_v god_n law_n deadly_a 2._o next_o he_o allege_v s._n paul_n word_n 144._o pag._n 144._o galath_n 3._o vers_fw-la 10._o curse_a be_v every_o one_o that_o shall_v not_o abide_v in_o all_o thing_n that_o be_v write_v in_o the_o hook_n of_o the_o law_n to_o do_v they_o what_o can_v hence_o be_v infer_v to_o bell_n purpose_v i_o see_v not_o except_o that_o all_o man_n be_v curse_v or_o else_o free_v from_o all_o law_n of_o god_n and_o true_a libertine_n but_o in_o truth_n it_o make_v more_o against_o he_o then_o for_o he_o for_o s._n paul_n intention_n be_v to_o prove_v that_o faith_n in_o christ_n be_v to_o justification_n and_o that_o the_o work_n of_o the_o bare_a law_n without_o faith_n be_v not_o sufficient_a and_o therefore_o have_v prove_v by_o abraham_n example_n that_o faith_n do_v concur_v to_o justification_n in_o the_o ten_o verse_n prove_v that_o work_v of_o the_o bare_a law_n suffice_v not_o for_o whosoever_o say_v he_o be_v of_o the_o work_n of_o the_o law_n uz._n without_o faith_n be_v under_o curse_n for_o it_o be_v write_v accurse_v be_v etc._n etc._n because_o such_o as_o want_v faith_n can_v not_o abide_v in_o all_o thing_n of_o the_o law_n and_o consequent_o be_v under_o curse_n but_o what_o make_v this_o against_o those_o who_o have_v faith_n and_o grace_n such_o can_v do_v all_o god_n will_v with_o david_n act_n 13._o such_o err_v not_o from_o psalm_n act._n vers_fw-la 22._o psalm_n god_n commandment_n psal_n 118._o such_o can_v fulfil_v all_o thing_n and_o let_v not_o pass_v one_o word_n of_o all_o god_n commandment_n with_o josue_n josue_n josue_n cap._n 11._o such_o be_v doer_n of_o the_o law_n and_o iustify_v rom._n 2._o v._n 12._o 14._o final_o such_o