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A54063 Some questions and answers for the opening of the eyes of the Jews natural that they may see the hope of Israel which hath so long been hid from them : with some questions and answers for the direction, comfort, help and furtherance of God's spiritual Israel in their travels in spirit from spiritual Egypt through the spiritual wilderness to spiritual Canaan ... / by Isaac Penington, the younger. Penington, Isaac, 1616-1679. 1661 (1661) Wing P1201; ESTC R28795 37,117 125

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is given them in the Life to see with The Eye of Life is limited in man and man is to be held within the limits and openings of Life and his Heart and Mind to be bounded within the Desires and Delights which arise from the Life he is to wait on the Life for its living moving and being all in his Being and here he shall be large enough and full enough and wise enough and happy enough But there is somewhat which presents to him a Kingdom a Riches a Dominion a Vastness of Perfection in himself at his own command the which he beginning to listen unto the same opens an Eye in him to see the Beauty and Glory thereof and then Immediately his heart is taken and he cannot avoid the snare nor can he henceforth know where he is until that which he hath forsaken again please to visit him and to discover to him his Iniquity and Errour from the true Root Quest What is the way of safety when God enlargeth the Territories of Life in the Soul and causeth his Love and Grace to abound Answ To Drink the Draughts of Joy and Sweetness in the pure Fear and Trembling not departing therefrom in what ever it doth for God or receives from him till the Salvation be wholly wrought out and perfected the Habitation of unspotted Love prepared and the Soul led into and seated in its compleat Mansion therein And then the Name of Fear is no more heard of in the Land of Life though the Principle from whence the Fear sprang and the Birth and building which was begotten raised up formed and perfected in the Fear abideth for ever So that the pure Love doth not cast out the pure Fear wherein is no Bondage of the Life but the preservation of the Life from the Bondage but swallows it up and comprehends it for the pure Fear is but Love descended and the pure Love is but Fear ascended the Eternal Principle or Substance being one and the same in both Quest Is there then such a State of Safety upon which the Enemy cannot Intrench Answ There is a State of such Union with the Life as the Enemy cannot come between where there is lying down and rising up in the Power of the Life and no Beast of prey can make afraid any more nor can any Root of bitterness spring up from within to trouble or make any disturbance between the Life and the Soul any more Some Questions and Answers conducing towards the further manifestation and opening the Path of Redemption and Eternal Life to the Eye of Spiritual Israel Quest HOw doth the Son of God or Eternal Word in whom is the Light of Life Redeem man out of the fallen Estate out of the Kingdom of Darkness and Death into the Kingdom of everlasting Righteousness and Peace in the Life Answ Three wayes First by wounding him in the Natural and corrupt Estate and so breaking his Peace and Pleasure in the Kingdom of Darkness and making him weary thereof Secondly By weakening him under the Teachings and Chastizements of the Law Thirdly By healing and binding him up with the Oil of Salvation in the Power of the endless Life which is the Gospel Quest How doth God wound him in the natural and corrupt State Answ By pursuing him with his Light which letteth him see what it is discovering the Evil and Danger of it and so weaning his heart from it and making him look out after and long for a Redeemer O how Burthensome is the Captivity to the awakened Soul when he hath a glimpse of what man was before his fall when he had a place and being in the Life with a Spirit suitable to the Life and what he is now in his Estate of estrangedness and alienation from the Life and whither he is going in his Paths of unrighteousness estrangedness and alienation And while his heart is thus turning from the Land of Death and Captivity and longing after the Redeeming Power and Vertue of the Life the Enemy the Power of Darkness layes load upon him drawing him more and more under the Chains and Bonds of Iniquity to the utmost of its strength So that now Lusts abound Evils increase Temptations and Snares multiply and in the Land of Captivity their strength is great the Soul weak and faint and the Redeeming Power and Vertue seems very far off Now this is the Estate of Conversion when the Lord in the midst of the Powers of Death and Darkness turns the heart from them towards himself causing it to wait under the Captivity for the Appearance of the Arm of his strength to break the yoke of the Oppressor from off the Necks of the oppressed and so to bring out of the Land of Death and Darkness into the Travels towards the Land of Promise where the Peace the Life the Liberty in the Lord the Rest the Joy the full Content and Happiness is reaped by the Soul which follows the Lamb thither Quest How doth God weaken the Creature under the Teachings and Chastisements of the Law Answ By exercising him towards Good and Evil and correcting him for his unbelief and disobedience as he finds good just and necessary for him Quest How doth God exercise him towards Good and Evil and correct him Ans When he hath brought him from under the Power of Darkness in some measure and in some measure set the Spirit free there-from by the Vertue of his Life springing up in the heart then he exerciseth the Heart and Conversation towards the Good and from the Evil then he giveth out Laws for or against things according as he findeth most Proper to the Estate of every Particular Soul Now upon the giving forth of the Law the Life being in some measure raised there is that which loves its Teachings and pure Path and there is that also which draws back from it and that being yet strong there come many strokes and Chastisements from the Lord upon his own Dear Child And these are bitter and to be forced into the Sin which it loaths and in Heart is turned from and to be kept from the Good which it longs after in heart is United to partly by the strength of the Enemy and partly by reason of its own weakness and negligence this is bitter also insomuch as it cryeth out Day after Day and findeth this Administration of the Law almost as heavy a yoke as the Land of Captivity it self was because of the weakness of it through the Flesh and the strength and advantages which the corruption of the Heart and Prince of Darkness gather thereby Quest What is the benefit of these Exercises upon the Soul Answ They melt they break they make the Heart Tender and fit to be moulded by the Eternal Vertue and Power into a Vessel for the Power Quest What frames of Spirit do they work the Heart or Mind into Answ Into very many precious Ones As for Instance First They make the Spirit poor The daily
him to a greater Wisdom Glory and Excellency than his Creator had placed him in with which he consulting out of the dependance upon his Creator fell from that which alone was able to uphold him in the pure state wherein he was made Thus was he taken in the snare of misery and brought to that loss which all the Sons of Adam lie groveling under to this day when the Lord at any time awakens the sence thereof in them Quest What was the State of man in and since the fall Answ A state of Darkness a state of Death a state of deep Captivity wherein his Soul Body and Spirit are become dark as to the Light of God dead as to the Life of Righteousness and Captive unto that spirit which hath entred them by their hearkning thereto who dwelleth and ruleth in them in the Darkness as God did before in the Light Quest How is man dark how is man dead is his Soul or body dead as to their being or how else is it Answ Man is not dead as to his being either in Soul or Body but as to the right pure and sanctified state of each The Vessels still remain the same in being but they are emptied of their proper Liquor and filled with other Wine The Understanding is the same the Reason the same the Will the same the Memory the same the bodily Members the same as to their being or matter but they are all otherwise leavened and another King now dwells in them and Reigns over them Quest Then there needs not any dissolution of man's Reason or bringing it to nothing in relation to man's Recovery but onely a changing of the Leaven Answ Man is become another thing by degeneration from the Life He is so poisoned by Sin and Corruption that he is to be wholly broken down and brought to nothing even in the very Naturals that he may be new made and built up in the newness of the Spirit Thus he is to become as a Fool as a little Child or rather as a Seed to be cast into the womb of Life there to be formed and born of the Spirit And as he springs up in the Life he is to forget his own Country living in the Spirit and walking in the Spirit where watching to the Spirit and against his own Reason in the pure Childishess in the simple instinct and naturalness of the Life he shall at length find a Reason new formed and springing up in him which waiting on the Lord in Obedience and subjection shall be taken into Unity with the Life but if the Eye of Reason open too fast and be not kept down to the Light of Life the Betrayer will enter again at that door and bring the Soul into Death after it hath had sweet and Precious Tasts of the Redeeming Vertue and Power Quest Can Man in the fall see his fallen Estate and so seek after a recovery out of it Answ It is not possible for him so to do without some Light shining upon him from the Redeemer How can Darkness discover Darkness That which maketh mamanifest the Darkness is Light When the Vessel is dark and the Prince of Darkness filleth it and dwelleth in it what can that Eye see but according to the Darkness judging Evil Good and Good Evil bitter sweet and sweet bitter Quest But there is no man but hath some Light no man but at some time or other seeth Good or Evil in some measure Answ That ariseth not from the light of Man's Nature as it now stands in the fall which being wholly in the Enemie's hands and being it self become darkness cannot at all give man notice of or light him out of the darkness but from a fresh Visitation of the Life which giveth all men a day of Visitation by the shining of its Light wherein is some manifestation to man and some certain sight by him both of the Good and of the Evil and not onely so but there is also the living Spirit striving with him and attracting him from the one to the other according to the Lord 's good pleasure whose is both the Light and also the determination of the proportion of every man's Visitation by it Quest But hath not man naturally a Light in the fallen Estate which discovereth unto him Good and Evil Answ Not a true Light not a true Discovery but onely somewhat which the Enemy setteth up in man as such to keep him in the entanglements of the Deceit and out of the suspition of it For the Enemy entring into him by his subtilty blindeth and deceiveth his Eye that he may the better hold him Captive in the deceit insomuch as he discerneth not the false Image which the Enemy hath stamped upon him for though the Enemy bringeth man into a state of real Darkness Death and Captivity yet these do not at present appear to man what they are but are miscoloured or Painted to appear what they are not the better to deceive bewitch and entangle man therein The Enemy did not represent Darkness in its Black hue Death and Captivity in its dreadful Appearance to Adam but as Wisdom as Light as a better Life as a greater Freedom And thus he still enters man and after this manner he still dwells in man until the true Light pursue him opening and discovering his Deceit and drawing man back from this false Paradise of pleasure in wisdom and liberty out of the Life into a sence of his want of and breathings after the true Garden of the living God Q. Is man then mistaken in his Judgment of Good and Evil since the fall Answ Yes altogether and by this means doth he so pleasingly scituate himself and take up his Habitation in the Kingdom of Darkness wherein are strong holds and wise reasonings against the true God and for the false Appearances of good which the Enemy of the Soul strongly makes men believe to be such as he represents them for in the darkness Thus in particular persons and also in Societies evil is pursued after and advanced for good and the true good suppressed as evil through the working of the Mystery of Darkness in mens hearts Quest What then is the proper Estate and Condition of man in the fall Answ A State of false light of false life of false liberty He seemeth to himself advanced in Wisdom above the low empty naked Estate of Innocency which is nothing and hath nothing but by a continual dependance on the Goodness of the Creator He seemeth also advanced in Life advanced in Liberty He can speak his own words think his own thoughts do his own will seek himself please himself satisfie himself The life of Righteousness is a yoak a bond in his Eye He is free from the restraint of it He hath Life in himself and is exceeding wise in the compass of his own dominions Thus doth the Enemy transform the Kingdom of Darkness and Death giving fallen Man a share with him in it while he
Messiah where the Law of Life is Written not in Tables of stone or outward writings of the Letter but in the heart by the Spirit There they shall be cleansed by inward Water receive the inward Circumcision and Mark of the inward Jew be sprinkled with the everlasting Blood of the Lamb and taught to offer up the spiritual Sacrifice and shall hear the Voice which will tell them of the Way and which will lead them in Paths they have not known There the spiritual Seed the spiritual Israel shall find the Shepherd of Israel who leads into the Land of Life puts forth his Sheep into the Pastures of Life gives them of the living Streams to drink begetting them as Heirs of and bringing them up in the everlasting Power and Dominion of the Life Quest How may old Israel enter into this Path and so become new Israel Answ By waiting on the Lord for the closing of that Eye which is wise according to the Flesh and for the opening of that Eye which is at first weak in Spirit There must be a low beginning Israel must know and not despise the Day of small things if ever he will grow up into the Riches and Inheritance of this Glory There is a Light in every heart which gives a sound in the natural Vessel which is very hardly at first distinguishable from the natural till by obedience and subjection thereto its living Touch Vertue and Power comes to be felt and distinguished but in the Meek Humble Believing and Obidient it daily appears more and more and makes it self more clearly manifest to them who are walking on unto the Kingdom and Inheritance in it while others are disputing about it Quest How may Israel believe and become subject to the Light Answ When there is a drawing felt in the heart either to good or against evil he must not dispute concerning it on the one hand nor run on in the forwardness on the other for both these wayes the breathings of the Spirit on him and springings up of the good Seed in him are easily quenched but in the Fear he is to trust himself with what his heart certainly feels in the drawing Vertue and in the Humility to give up the Members to the Good and to withhold them from the Evil waiting for strength from the Fountain of strength towards both By this means there is a Travell and removal out of the corruption and filth of the heart into the pure holy Law Nature Image and Will of God Quest Where doth God find the heart when he first visiteth it with his Light Answ In Egypt in the Darkness in the Bonds and Captivity of Death Quest What doth the Lord do with it there Answ He Exerciseth it a while there till he hath made it fit for a Wilderness-state Quest What doth he do with it then Ans He bringeth it into the Wilderness which he hath fitted it for Quest What doth he do with it in the Wilderness Answ He prepareth it for and leadeth it towards the Land of Life Quest What doth he do with it then Ans He giveth it an entrance into the everlasting Kingdom which is the Land of Life according as he hath prepared and fitted it That which is new-begotten new-created and formed new-born in the Messiah's Eternal Light findeth an Entrance into and an Habitation in the Light and is not turned back into the Land of Darkness it abiding in the Vertue and Principle of its Life although sometimes it may be exercised with the Darkness for its further advantage Thou art our Habitation from everlasting to everlasting saith the Child of Light unto the Father of Spirits in all Ages and Generations Now that Israel after the Flesh may the better understand the Path of the spiritual Israel in the way of Redemption by the powerful visitations of the Light of the Messiah in their hearts and Consciences may know the Gospel of his Salvation which is able to effect that which the Law of Moses could not because of the weakness of the Flesh on their parts let them in fear and silence of the natural wisdom and in waiting on the Lord in Spirit consider these Questions and Answers following relating to spiritual Israel Some Questions and Answers for the Direction Comfort Help and Furtherance of God 's Spiritual Israel in their Travels in Spirit from Spiritual Egypt through the Spiritual Wilderness to Spiritual Canaan which is the Land where the Redeemed Soul flourisheth in the Life walking with God and Worshiping Him in Spirit and Truth Quest WHat is the Gospel Answ A good Message or glad Tydings to man in the fallen estate concerning a Promise of Redemption out of it Quest Is man then in a fallen Estate Answ His present Temper Constitution Disposition and whole Course upon the least touch of God upon his Spirit do in some measure discover his fall unto him though the insensibleness which is come upon him by his grievous wound and death through the fall maketh him very unapt to take notice thereof Quest What was his Estate before his fall Answ A State of Glory and Blessedness wherein he came pure out of the hands of his Creator was fitted for his use service enjoyment and delight even for him to appear or disappear in and exercise according to his pleasure Quest Wherein did his Glory and Blessedness consist Ans Chiefly in these four things to wit In the Light in the Life in the Liberty in which the Vessel was formed and in the Indwelling and appearing of the Creator there according to his pleasure Quest Open this a little further Answ Man was made a Vessel of Light a Vessel of Life a Vessel of pure Freedom He was formed in the Eternal Image and had a pure being in that Image He was Light in the Lord living in the Lord free unto all Good and from all Evil in the Lord. This was the state of his being at first and thus was he made in the Image a pure resemblance of the Eternal Purity and Blessedness but besides this he had the Eternal Life the Eternal Substance the Eternal Purity it self dwelling in the Vessel shining in it and manifesting it self from it according to its pleasure Quest How came man to fall from this Estate Answ Not willingly not of an inclination of his own but he was deceived through the subtilty of Temptation to entertain a desire of enlarging his blessedness out of the limits of the will of his Creator Quest How could such a Temptation enter man he being Pure and Holy inclined to Good and against Evil after the Image of his Creator Answ Man was not made to enjoy a Perfection in himself separate from his Creator or to live of himself but by dependance Now though he had no inclination in him not to depend or to seek a Life in himself out of the Fountain yet there was a Capacity of so doing before which Capacity the Tempter laid his bait of advancing
of Death and Corruption raised up in it in which the Prince of Darkness dwells and bears rule and then O how it groans and longs after departure from that Land and waits for the Promise of Redemption out of it but yet it is still left in the hand of the Enemy and dayly feels the bitter Bondage from the Powerfull Law of Sin and Death springing up in the heart and issuing out through the Members Quest How is Faith and Obedience here exercised Answ In believing the Promise in waiting for the Promise in feeling some remote drawings of the Life and Uniting therewith so far as is possible in this Dark and Captived Estate There is an acknowledgement of the true Prince and a bowing to him even in this Estate of Captivity until he please to break the Bands thereof and receive under his guidance Quest What is the Estate of the Wilderness Spiritually Answ It is an Estate of waiting for the guidance of the leader of receiving direction and Laws from the leader of following the leader as he pleaseth to lead through the Entanglements Temptations Straits and Necessities which he seeth fit to exercise the Spirit with for the wearing out of that which is not to inherit and for preparing the Heir for the Inheritance Quest How is Faith and Obedience here exercised Answ In waiting on the Light for the leadings in the Law of Life and then in subjecting to the leader being content with all his Dispensations therein with the time he chuseth for standing still and with the time he chuseth for Travelling on with the Proportion of Light and leading that he judgeth fit with the food and cloathing which he prepares and preserves with the Enemies which he sees fit to have avoided or encountred with Hereby the own Wisdom the own will the own Strength the own Desires the own Delights with all the murmurings weariness and discontents which arise from the earthly part are by degrees worn out and a pure Vessel prepared for the pure Birth to spring up and appear in Quest What is Spiritual Canaan or the Heavenly-built State or State of the Gospel Answ A State of Regenerating or renewing in the Life and pure Image where the building is reared up which is made without hands where there is a sweet and peaceable growth in the Life and a fresh and satisfactory enjoyment of the Life Quest How is Faith and Obedience here exercised Answ In abiding in the Vine in drawing from the Vine in returning the Sap and Vertue back into the Vine and living according to the Will and in the free Dispensation thereof Thus Works are excluded with Self from whom they proceed and the Vine becomes all in all Quest Are Egypt with the Wilderness and Canaan Spiritually as distinct Estates as they were Litterally Answ There are such distinct several Estates Spiritually wherein a man may be Spiritually in Egypt and neither in the Wilderness nor Canaan So there is an Estate in the Wilderness which is out of Egypt and not in Canaan and an Estate in Canaan which is beyond both Egypt and the Wilderness Yet these Estates in Spirit are oftentimes inter-woven with the exercises thereof insomuch as the Soul may in part or in some respect to his own understanding be in Egypt in part in the Wilderness and in part in the rest Life and Peace But these things are not to be curiously sought into lest a wrong Wisdom and Knowledge get up but abiding low and little in the little Seed the Kingdom and everlasting Inheritance grows dayly in the Soul and the Soul dayly shoots up into it and is enlarged in it Quest Is there any return back into Egypt or into the Wilderness after the State of the Soul is advanced higher the entrance into the everlasting Inheritance being administred and the Soul partly taken into and having found a place of rest in the Life Answ The Enemy lies near to deceive and while he hath Power to tempt if there be an hearkening to his Temptations there is a departure from the pure Life and a return of the Captivity or bewildering in some measure In the Faith and in the Obedience to the Light of Life is the preservation out of it is Death and Destruction Eternally Quest Is not the pure being untouched by Death and Destruction and shall not the Creature when it is Redeemed into him be as he is Answ The pure being cannot be impure evil cannot enter upon him it hath no place in him his nature excluding it nor can it enter into the Principle of Life that comes from him and is always preserved by him nor can it enter upon that man who is begotten of that Principle abideth with it and is preserved in it But so to be in him as to abide and not go forth is a great State even higher then the first Adam knew Quest But is not Light and Darkness Good and Evil all alike to God shall they not be so also to him who is in perfect Unity and Fellowship with God Answ All the Light and Darkness Good and Evil which can issue from the Creature cannot reach God's being as it is in it self but only so far as he hath pleased to expose his Life in the various manifestations thereof to be reached thereby Yet his Eye seeth the Evil and the Good the Perfection the Imperfection and his Nature is perfectly excluded from all Evil and Imperfection insomuch as he cannot possibly lie or deceive or be unrighteous or unmerciful in any of his Dispensations and that which is gathered into him is thus one with him But that which can do any thing which is sinful and evil in it self is not in the true Unity with the Eternal Being but in the deceit of that Spirit which Erreth from him and centereth the creature in the imagined likeness of his Life and Happiness Quest How far may Persons go and yet be lyable to the Enemies snare Answ Very far They may come out of Egypt they may pass through the Wilderness they may receive an Inheritance or Portion in the Holy Land they may have Houses and Vineyards which they Builded not nor Planted they may have had deep Draughts of the Life deep Incomes of the Love large Riches of the Grace and precious Tasts of the Fulness They may have been in the Paradise of God may have been Anointed by God may have stood upon his Holy Mountain and walked up and down in the midst of the stones of Fire c. and yet the Enemy may have leave to tempt and may find entrance for his Temptation advancing above this Estate in the Deceiveableness and increasing the Glory in the Eye of the wisdom which he steals in and so hold the Spirit Captive in his Golden Chains and lead it back again to the Chambers of Death Quest How doth or can the Enemy prevail over Persons in so Glorious an Estate Answ By opening a larger Eye in them than