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A90861 Innocencie appearing, through the dark mists of pretended guilt. Or, A full and true narration of the unjust and illegal proceedings of the commissioners of Berks, (for ejecting scandalous and insufficient ministers) against John Pordage of Bradfield in the same county. In which he is justly vindicated from the unjust and horrid aspersions of blasphemy, divelism or necromancie, scandal in his life, and all things else falsly objected against him by his enemies. Published for the clearing of truth, and the detecting of malice and subtilty, and for the prevention of all mispprehensions that may be caused by any scandalous pamphlets, and false relations of the proceedings in his case. As likewise for the information of all sober-minded Christians touching his judgement in many things of high concernment, and particularly concerning chastity, virginity, apparitions of spirits, visions, communion with the holy angels, the invisible worlds, magistracy, &c. / Written by the said John Pordage. Pordage, John, 1607-1681. 1655 (1655) Wing P2967; Thomason E1068_7; ESTC R210422 152,492 125

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my relating to some that were wise and knowing what I heard from another with much grief to my soul makes me any way culpable or guilty Art 3. That the bloud of Christ was not meritorious of any mans salvation Ans I call heaven and earch to witness that such thoughts never entred into my soul nor did such words ever come out of my mouth For my judgement ever hath been and still is that the bloud of Christ is satisfying reconciling cleansing bloud that it is interceding redeeming meriting bloud in relation to all those who through faith and patience come to inherit eternal life Art 4. That it was a poor thing to live upon the bloud of Christ and fetching it over again in a contemptuous kind of speaking Pish said he thou art a babe thou knowst nothing to live upon the bloud of Christ is a poor thing 1. Part. Ans I acknowledg that about four years since such expressions were uttered by me to one Mrs. Grip but without any such intent as may be supposed by my accusers and not with that circumstantial aggravation of repeating it in a contemptuous manner which is but a supposition of my adversary and cannot be attested by an Oath without this Witness pretends infallibly to know my thoughts and purposes 2. Part. Ans Again this being spoken to a particular person on a particular occasion might be true if the circumstances of the discourse were accordingly added though as here presented it seems very monstrous 3. Part. Ans Therefore to make things clear I shall here insert some particular circumstances which may present this Article though in a new yet true face I coming to Mrs. Grips house she took me into a private room to have some conference with me alone where she brake forth into a violent passion of tears weeping and wringing her hands and pouring sorth bitter complaints and invectives against Mr. Fowler as that he was a graceless man a Lyer a Slanderer not worthy to come up into a Pulpit or to have the name of a Minister of Christ with other such bitter expressions The cause of which was as she then told me Mr. Fowlers reporting about that she then lived in Adultery and after her passion was somewhat allayed she brake forth into these or such like expressions of high assurance Christ hath loved me and dyed for me and justified me by his bloud from all guilt of sin I am an elect person a justified person and what is this Fowler to charge sin upon me These and other expressions fell from her to this purpose from some of which I feared she was drenched with Antinomianism and told her more then once it was a poor thing to live upon the bloud of Christ and to look so much upon that except she had the nature of Christ and the Spirit of Christ asking her where was the meekness of Christ and the patience of Christ to suffer as an innocent lamb quietly but still she crying out she lived on the bloud of Christ I told her it was a poor thing to be thus exalted with notions of the bloud of Christ without mentioning sanctification and those holy graces which flow from Christs nature dwelling in the soul Now by these expressions of mine my scope was to make Mrs. Grip see the necessity of sanctification and of a pure and holy life and not to make void the blessed effect of the bloud of Christ applyed according to the mind of God and the true meaning of the Scripture And now having related the circumstances as near as I can remember I believe a sober and knowing Christian will not judge me either scandalous or ignorant for these expressions Art 5. That one speaking to me of the glorious persons in the Trinity I replyed pish there is no such thing as persons in Trinity 1. Part. Ans I doe here profess and avow from the sincerity of my heart That I believe the Trinity of persons as an Article of my faith viz. That there are three persons distinct from each other the person of the Father the person of the Son the person of the Holy Ghost yet not so as to prejudice the unity in essence and I so believe the unity as not to confound the Trinity of persons 2. Part. Ans I never uttered such expressions in that way as to give any just ground of suspition of my denying the Trinity But I remember about four years since being before the Committee of Berks Mr. Fowler or Mr. Gilbert I remember not which desired the Committee to give them liberty to ask me two or three questions amongst the rest they asked me whether there were three persons in the Deity I answered them I believed the Trinity as it is recorded in 1 John 5 7 There are three that bear record in heaven the Father the Word and the Holy Ghost Thus you see I believe the Trinity But doe you believe the Trinity of persons said they I replyed I find not the term Persons in the Text but to put you out of doubt I do not stumble at the word Person And this afterward I told to the above-mentioned Mrs. Grip in a private conference some years since to whom I affirmed that I found no such expressions as persons in Trinity in the Scripture and that the word Person being a School-term was very difficult to be apprehended by common capacities but I never spake thus to prejudice the true notion of the persons in the sacred Trinity which I do cordially believe but only to shew that ordinary Christians should not be too curious in prying into that deep mystery of the three persons in the Trinity but rather content themselves with what the Scripture plainly affirms of the Father Son and Holy Ghost as distinct yet one But to conclude this Answer pray consider what hard measure it is thus to pick a broken sentence out of a long discourse and so to accuse one without relating the circumstances which might serve to clear what otherwise may seem very strange to prejudiced persons Art 6. That it was a weakness to be troubled for sin Ans I do not remember that any such expression as this ever dropped from my mouth either publiquely or privately and I am perswaded that none one dare assert it with an oath which if they did would not make much to the purpose for with a charitable qualification it might thus be made forth That 't is a weakness for one to be troubled for sin who hath the assurance of Gods love his sin pardoned his person justified sanctified and his will converted from and crucified to sin for such a one should be triumphing in the power of faith and love enjoying sweet heavenly communion with God and saying O death where is thy sting and there is no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit Whereas trouble for sin thus pardoned and mortified may be an engine of Satan
sequestrations you will speedily bring Iudgements Commotions and Desolations upon your selves and others Do but look into the book of the Revelations and you shall finde that the oppressions and cruelties acted upon those who were slain for the witness of Iesus and for their testimony to the truth were a cause of those viols of wrath and vengeance poured upon the kingdom of the Beast And what can you expect but the like judgements if you continue in such fierce persecutions For have you not civilly put me to death having killed my name and credit and blasted as much as in you lay the purity and integrity of my life Have not you by sentence cast me out of my Estate and so ruin'd as much as you could my person and family making both contemptible by your calumnies aspersions and cruel Sentence But what shall I return to you for this Shall I pray for fire to come down from Heaven to execute Gods just wrath upon you No no God forbid For though the Law of Nature prompts us to preserve our selves and our own just rights and interests though by the prejudicing of our enemies as requiring an Eye for an Eye and a tooth for a tooth yet the Law of Gra●● ●ommands to take up our crosses and deny Name Life Liberty Estates Relations in whatever they may draw us to Crosse the Royal Law of Love which bids us love our enemies and bless those that curse us and pray for those that despightfully use us and so return good for evil However I could not but discharge my duty as a Christian in thus presenting your sin before your eys that so you may search and try your hearts and return again to the Lord and that you may judge your selves and so escape the fierce Iudgement of God I shall therefore commit you to the Eternal Essential Word which is able to convince you of this heinous sin of persecution and cry in your Consciences Saul Saul why persecutest thou me Touch not mine annointed and do my Prophets no harm This is the engraffed word which is able to save your souls by giving you true repentance and remission of sins with a total change in your Spirits from wrath to love from strife to concord from the nature of the Serpent to the Innocency of the Dove which is the cordial desire and prayer of Yours to serve you not in the will of the wrath but in the righteous will of God JOHN PORDAGE To all my Christian Friends and Acquaintance in Berkshire and elsewhere scattered Christian Friends IS it not a sweet thing for Brethren to dwell together in Vnity But we live in such perilous times wherein we see not onely Egyptian against Egyptian and Formalist against Formalist but even Christians against Christians and those of the Ministery we see at civil war amongst themselves the more rigid and legal against the more spiritual and tender yea in their particular interests against one another Surely therefore the kingdom thus divided against it self cannot stand long Especially if we consider that the greatest part of them are not able to bear any amongst them that exceed their ordinary forms and systemes of Doctrine with more pure spiritual and divinely-rational discoveries of God and Christ And how many others are there who profess Religion of this rigid confined stamp and model that think they please God in judging and persecuting all those who are not like themselves though more knowing and spiritual And really we finde that the holding forth the most pure and precious truths of Christ begets much envy and persecution And though a Christian were ever so innocent and inoffensive in his conversation yet this were not a sufficient guard to preserve him from the tongues and uncharitable practices of such men as the following narration will demonstrate for nothing will satisfie the Lusts of these persons but such dainties as the very gifts and graces of the spirit which they prey upon by rash censures and invectives terming those things divelish which are divine and the very glory of a Christian and those persons deceivers who live most in truth and least in the deceiveableness of unrighteousness O what a sore judgement is this for true Christians to be so stygmatized by the malice of those who would be esteemed so as to be printed Hereticks Blasphemers Familists Enthusiasts Antiscripturists Sorcerers and what not And to be proceeded against as such by Mulcts and illegal Sequestrations and all because the true Christian cannot bow down and worship the Golden Calves and Images that the pretended Christians set up from the Invention of their own Imaginations Christian Friends the world yea you your selves have wondered at my long silence and well you might for I have wondred at my self in it For I have long lain under the rods of mens tongues the stripes of reproaches and the burdens of sad and heavy censures and condemnations I have seen my self in the prison of mens dark Imaginations and narrow Conceptions yea which is more the truth of my Faith purity of my principles and innocency of my conversation have as it were been dashed in pieces against the Rocks of ignorance and darkness by the mistakes or malice of my enemies So that truly I may say I have fallen into the hands of spiritual thievs and robbers who would have plundered me of that holiness integrity and uprightness which the Lord hath bestowed upon me Yet hitherto I have not opened my mouth nor pleaded the least for my own Innocency I have not wrote nor Apologized for my self in print but have sate down in silence resolving to enter into its secret Chamber till this Indignation was overpast believing that by quietly lying down under this wrath enmity opposition condemnation and contradiction of sinners I might in time overcome and wear it out Looking upon this as a better way then to have entred into contest by setting Scripture against Scripture and Argument against Argument which might have more awakened the Fiery Passions of the adversaries Whereas quiet retired silence was more likely to have quenched the violence of these fires and stopped the mouths of those Lyons Hence in this passive retiredness I have long suffered to see whether it might be a shelter to me from the hotter and more weighty persecutions of my enemies But now this season is past And as there hath been a time to be silent so now there is a time to speak that truth and innocency may no longer suffer under the notion of error and guilt For my enemies having proceeded so far as formally and actually to sentence and condemn me and as it were to crucifie me between transgressors Hereticks Familists Ranters Sorcerers and endeavouring in print to justifie their actions by representing me as guilty of all they lay to my charge that so I might be made a publike spectacle and as a prodigious sign to be gazed and wondred at I say they having done all this against me
and but a Type Being further examined he saith That I endeavoured to prove that Taken Octob. 5 Novemb. 22 Christ was but a Type out of Peter where he is called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Further Roger Stevens being sworn to this Article deposeth That Novemb. 22. the Dr. in dispute with Mr. Pendarvis delivered That o This Deponent mistakes the business I endeavoured to prove him a Type but not only a Type as may be seen in my Answer Christ was but a Type and went to prove it by that Scripture 1 Pet. 2. He is our example To which Mr. Pendarvis replyed That is not meant by way of righteousness to justification but by way of example as to reproaches To which the Dr. answered you understand it one way and I another p or words to that effect Now to ballance these Depositions the Reader must take notice 1. That my true sense of this Article may be seen in my Answer to this first Charge in which I have truely shewed in what sense I owned Christ to be a Type viz. as he is a pattern and example for us to imitate and follow 2. That this discourse being with Mr. Pendarvis it is requisite I should here insert his Deposition taken by the Justices of Peace of that County and afterward presented to the Committee of Plundered Ministers which was as follows This examinant which was Mr. Pendarvis further saith that the said Dr. Pordage in a Conference had with him at the same time after his Sermon at Ilsley said that Christ was a Type and but a Type but this expression was immediately waved by him but he constantly affirmed that Christ was a type But because Mr. Pendarvis could not be there to witness vivavoce the Commissioners would not admit this evidence But Mrs. Mary Pocock being sworn and examined on this Article saith Decemb. 7. That she heard the Dr. maintain in that discourse with Mr. Pendarvis That Christ was a type and proved it out of Peter he was an Example and that she heard the Dr. say He would not stand to the word But. And further q Thus the Deposition was wrote by the Clerk John Pordage son to the Doctor aged between 19 and 20. years Decemb. 7. and examined December 7. This Deponent saith that in dispute between the Dr. and Mr. Pendarvis about five or six years since about Christs being a type the Dr. said that Christ was but a type To which Mr. Pendarvis asked Do you say but a Type Whereupon the Dr. answered He did not stand to the expression But a Type it was but the slip of his tongue but he maintained that Christ was a Type You see here are three Witnesses that attest I never owned or stood to that of Christs being But a Type Correspondent to which Testimony I gave in my Answer before the Committee of Plundered Ministers which I offered to prove by three Witnesses then present who heard me who were ready to attest Mr. Francis Pordage Mary Pocock Robert Bolt this which follows viz. That they being present about the 27 of March 1651. before the Committee of Plundered Ministers heard me touching this Article That Christ was a Type and but a Type Deliver my self thus That I had owned Christ to be a Type that is a pattern and example for us Christians to square our lives and conversations by but that I had not owned him to be but a Type or a Type onely But the Commissioners would by no means hear this Evidence After this I earnestly pressed them to hear what my Witnesses could further say touching what I had publickly delivered in my Mynistry about this Subject telling them that such evidence was in justice more to be respected then a mistake in sudden speaking presently retracted but they denied all such evidence and would not hear which clearly shewed their partiality and that they little regarded what my r When I brought such testimonies as these Mr. Dunch the Chairman said It may be Dr. you have changed your opinion since that and are now of another mind but we must judge by what you then spake Thus he said two or three times avowed judgement was Notwithstanding I shall here insert what some were ready to witness in reference to this Article who had been constant hearers of me Whose Testimony was this We confess we have heard the Dr. Preach out of Luk. 1. 68. First this by way of Doctrine viz. That Gods free grace is the first and chief cause of our redemption Then he proceeded thus That the inward man was redeemed in for and through Christ Rom. 3. 24. Through the redemption that is in Jesus Christ How through Christ Ans Through Christs death and passion Isa 53. 5. He was wounded for our transgressions he was broken for our iniquities 1 Pet. 2. 24. Who bare our sins in his own body on the Cross Rom. 4. 25. Who was delivered for our offences to the death of the Cross 1 Cor. 5. 7. Christ our Passeover is sacrificed for us Now this clearly shews that Christ is more then a type and that he is a compleat redeemer So much for this Article To the eight and ninth Article Mr. Tickle saith That he heard me deliver berore the Committee of Taken Octob. 5 this County sitting at Redding That Christ was not God and that he was not Jehovah Being further examined to this Article my Interrogatories to him were these 1. Whether these words were not expressed in a hot dispute before the Novemb. 22. Committee To this Mr. Tickle replyed That I ſ This was no direct answer to my question but he must every where shew his bitterness endeavoured in dispute with great seriousness before the Committee to maintain that Christ was not God that Christ was not Jehovah My second question was this Whether in the same dispute this Article was not limited and explained by me But this question was wholly waved and passed over in silence but whether voluntarily by Mr. Tickle or by the Clerks deceit the Interrogatories being given in in writing I do not know but this I am sure it was much to the prejudicing of my Cause to let such a weighty question pass without an answer 3. Whether this Article was held forth by me as my avowed judgement Ans To this he thus answers The Dr. did maintain and defend t No otherwise then this That Christ was not God viz. the Father nor Jehovah taken for the first person in the Trinity this Article as his avowed judgement Here Mr. Tickle is very peremptory in a rash answer though that Interrogatory before could be slided over in silence the answer to which if Mr. Tickle had not easily incurred perjury would have much cleared the truth in regard I meant and explained my self of God the Father as you shall see afterward This Deponent Mr. Tickle further deposed to the eight and ninth Article Novemb. 22. That