thing which we inferre is manifest viz. the originated sin or the corruption of nature which here David calleth Sin And if this Quaker think that this came from another Original than from Adam let him tell us what it is and not joyn in with the Manichees nor make God the Author and cause of sin if he can 21. Another of our Arguments is from that word of Paul's the wages of sin is death And seing infants die they must have sin as a procuring cause That death was and is a Punishment of sin we cleared above and the Apostle asserteth it here so manifestly calling it the Wages and due Desert that it must argue wonderful impudence in any to question it What sayeth this Quaker He granteth that death is a Consequence of the fall but denyeth that hence we can necessarily inferre iniquity to be in all those that are subject to death That is in plaine termes but the mans modesty dar not speak it out to say the Apostle speaketh not truth who ever imagined that wages were no more but a Consequent of the workmans labour If Death be the Wages and Reward and just Punishment of sin it can certanely be inflicted by the Righteous Judge of the world upon none but such as are guilty of sin How oft doth the Apostle speak of death as the just Desert and Punishment of sin Rom. 5 12 death entred by sin death passed on all for all had sinned suppose that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 should not signifie in whom as it doth Marc. 2 vers 4. Luk. 5 vers 25.2 Cor. 5 vers 4. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 being several times put for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Heb. 9 10 15 1â— but did only import the Cause as Socinians would have it it would sufficiently confirme this that death is inflicted because of sin so vers 15. through the offence of one many be dead and this is called vers 16. judgmnt to condemnation and vers 17. by one mans offence or by one offence death reigned And vers 21. sin reigned unto death And then againe Chap. 6 23. for the wages of sin is death So likewise 1 Cor. 15 21.22 by man came death for as in Adam all die He addeth as a reason of his denyal that it might appear he did not contradict the Apostle without reason For sath he all the outward creation suffered detriment and ruine in some respect by Adam's fall and yet the herbes and trees c. are not therefore sinners Ans. Is not this a valide reason wherefore to reject death as a punishment of sin Nay seing the vanity under which the world groaneth because of sin is a punishment to all Mankinde to Infants as well as to Adult persons it is hence manifest that all are guilty of sin that is all mankinde who are capable of sin as trees and herbes are not But yet more he addeth to Confront the Apostle and sayeth death is no wages of sin to the saints but is gaine Phil. 1 v. 21. Answ. Why is death called an enemy and the last enemy 1 Cor. 15 v. 26. wâ—at meaneth that that when corruptible hath put on incorruption and mortal hath put on immortality death shall be swallowed up in victory 1 Cor. 15 vers 54. Because the Lord by grace through Jesus Christ hath taken the sting of death away and made it a passage to glory unto his owne shall we therefore look upon it in it self as no punishment of sin or as not coming into the world because of sin This will tend as much to prove that Adult persons are not sinful as that Infants have no sin and that a womans paines in child birth or a Mans purchaseing his bread with the sweat of his face c. are no punishments of sin Original or Actual because all these Paines Troubles Afflictions c. worke together for good to such as love God Rom. 8 vers 28. And so the Godly have no Punishments Chastisements Visitations Corrections or the like for sin though the Scripture say so in hundereds of places Here this Quaker joineth with Antinomians 22. He mentioneth another argument which as he thinketh fools only make use of which is this If Infants have no sin they must all be saved Well what replyeth he to this argument We will rather saith he admit this supposed absurdity as a Consequent of our doctrine then say that innumerable Infants perish eternally not for their owne but only for Adams fault But though he should not value such Absurdities notwithstanding he therein run wilder than Papists and joine with Anabaptists and some Pelagians Yet me thinks he should take heed of contradicting his owne doctrine for afterward we will heare of his pleading for Christs dying for all Mankinde And sure if that be true he must say that he died also for Infants and yet here he granteth that they will be all saved without Christ for they have no sin they have no need of a Saviour to save them from their sinnes But how can they be all saved seing they have the Seed of sin â—n them and the Spring of all actual sinnes and that seed of sin which in Scripture is called death and the body of death the old man and the old Adam as he himself speaketh Pag. 62 When Paul speaketh of the body of death Rom. 7 24. he looks upon it as that from which Christ must deliver him How will this Quaker reconcile these things The old man must be put off or we cannot enter into glory and if Infants have the old man how can they enter into glory And beside All in glory must sing the song of the Redeemed and praise him that hath redeemed them by his blood Revel 5 9 10. How can Infants do this who have never been washen from their sinnes in the blood of the lamb as never having had sin And Pag. 55. he told us that none of Adam's posterity had any good in them which he had not from whom they descended Adam then being deprived of his Original Righteousness none of his Posterity no not Infants can lay claim to that Righteousness how I pray can Infants go to heaven who want a righteousness The heaven then which they go to must be a heaven wherein dwelleth no Righteousness and what can this be but some new Limbus But to be more plaine with him It is not enough for him to say he may grant such a Consequence from his doctrine for we must have sure Scripture grounds ere we beleeve that all Infants even of Turks and Heathens shall certanely go to heaven The Scripture giveth more ground of hope of those that are within the Covenant I am sure than of those who are without what thinks he of the Infants of Sodom See Iud. vers 7. and of Coreh and his company not to mention the Infants of the old world And why doth the Scripture call the children of such as are without the church 1 Cor. 7 14. unclean
Nither can it advantage his Charity to found it upon an Untruth and that his Charity in this matter is founded upon an Untruth we have seen already and shall yet make it more evident He supposeth that when Infants perish because of Original sin they perish for no â—in of their owne but only for the sin of another of Adam But how groundless this mistake is we have seen and we have told him that Original sin is the proper sin of humane Nature and so is traduced from Adam to all that come of him by ordinary Generation and so partake of humane nature 23. In end he saith that Zuinglius did deny and refute our Opinion But all his proof is from the Councâ—l of Trent which hath not much credite with us Whatever it hath with him we have more Reason to take Bullingers testimony Decad. 3. Serm. 10 and cont Anabapt lib. 1. c. 12 Gualters in Apol. pro Zuinglio Operib ejus than either Bellarmins or the Councell of Trent Nay Zuinglius declared himself abundantly for the truth in the conference with Luther at Marpurg where these words are we beleeve that Original sin is in-born in every man from Adam and is hereditary and is a sin condemning all and that unless Iesus Christ had helpâ—d by his life and death we had all because of it perished eternally neither had we been partakers of happiness and of the Kingdom of God And if he read his confession of faith to the Emperour Charles V at the dyet at Ausburgh A. D. 1539. he will finde the ground of his mistake for he will there see in what sense he said original sin was not sin viz. that the original sin in Infants was not their Actual sin and who can say that they did actually eat the apple yet he said that upâ—n the account of that they were born Enemies to God His words are these as Bullinger where now cited relateth them I confess Original sin to be borne with all who are begotten of man and woman I know we are by nature the children of wrath Nor do I stick at this disease being called after Pauls manner sin yea it is such a sin as who ever are born in it are Enemies to God and unto this they are drawn by their birth not by committing of wickedness but in so far as the first father did commit it c. 23. We have now seen all that he hath said against the Orthodox doctrine about original sin and have vindicated such arguments as he was pleased to take any notice of I shall now ere I leave this matter propose some moe Arguments to his Consideration And first I shall mention that which himself adduced when he was speaking of mans lapsed state of whâ—ch we heard in the â—oregoing chapter to wit Gen. 6 5. 8 21. from which places the old fathers argued against Pelagianisme See Vossij Hist. Pelag. Pag. 142 143. and indeed there is no small force in these passages for though the Lord be there speaking of the guilt and sin of Adult persons yet he is aggravating the same by traceing it up to the very Root Rise of all saying that it was so with them from their Infancy or Child hood so 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifieth yea from every state of their child hood for the word is in the plural number 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a pueritiis ejus and thus the Lord useth to aggravat the sin of people Ezech. 16 4. c. Mat. 15 19. Ephes. 2 3. Doth not such corrupt Fruit evidence an evil Tree with a bitter root of wickedness Mat. 7 16 And seing such are the fruits and acts of men so soon as they beginne to act and bud who can say that the Root is good and not corrupt rotten Chrysostoms words on Gen. 6. Hom. 22. are remarkabâ—e Neque aetas intempestiva alioquin inexperta malorum expers erat sed statim ab incunabulis omnes malum hoc praelium certabant contendentes ut malis operibus alter alterum superarent And it is certane that the Infants of the old world perished in the â—â—ood the Lord saith here that it was for sin wickedness that this judgment came on if then these Infants did not perish for their immediat parents sins as this Quaker affirmeth they must have perished for their owne having no actual sinnes of their owne they must have perished for their original sin so that they also must be comprehended with the rest in the forecited places and the evil there spoken of must be as well habitual as actual as well innate as acquired It is observable that Gen. 8 21. the same words are used of the new World that remained to wit of Noah and his posterity 25. We might adde other Scriptures to the same purpose such as Psal. 14 1 2 53 1 2 3. Rom. 3 9 10 23. 11 32. Gal. 3 22. These universals in such a matter as this is admit of no Exceptions yea all Exceptions are expresly excluded in the very text and the scope at which the Apostle driveth Rom. 3. admitteth of no exception for all have need of Christ and of God's mercy in Him otherwise the Apostles argument should be Inconsequent concluding an Universal from a Particular and because we dar not think thus therefore we must say that all are included and because all are not to be charged with actual sins original sin must be here included 26. Origen Cyrillus Chrysostom Augustin and others of the ancients adduced to this purpose these words of Iob Chap. 14 4. hence August de Praedest Grat. Cap. 3. saith Vitiatae radicis macula it a propaginis traduce per generationum sarmenta dissusa est ut nec infans quidem unius diei a culpa sit primae praevaricationis alienus nisi per indebitam Salvatoris gratiam fuerit liberatus quodsi nec quidem sine peccato est qui proprium habere non potuit conficitur ut illud traxerit alienum de quo Apostolus dixit per unum hâ—minem c. Now that the import of this passage may be the more noticed we would consider that when Iob saith who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean not one He is speaking of an inward uncleaâ—ness an uncleanness of soul by which we are exposed to the judgment of God of which he speaketh vers 3. and which he pointeth forth as inevitable and as such as no man can prevent or remedie So is he also speaking of an uncleanneâ—s which is Vniversal and therefore habitual for whâ—t is only actual is not universal Infants being free therefrom and of an uncleanness which is Permanent and Adherent as also of that which is Traduced or Propagated from Father to son and is hereditary all which do manifestly make it appear that he is speaking of Original sin in respect of which every one is Unclean cometh into the world unclean and can be no
that the effect of all this Non-such Love both of the Father of the Son was only a Possible Salvation and Redemption and that all this love should be outed and possibly not one man saved Either the Lord knew that some would get good by this fruite of wonderful love or not If not then he was not omniscient and then the Father gave his Son and the Son came and both were the effect of the greatest love imaginable and yet neither of them knew that any one soul should be saved for all that If he knew then he knew that they would get good by it either by themselves alone without his Grace or not If the first why would he send his Son to die and why would Christ come to die for such as they saw would never have a will to be saved by his death If the last be said then seing the greatest expression of love was to send his Son and in the Son to come and die how can we think that that was for all when the grace to improve that death and profite by it was not designed for all Sayeth not Paul Rom. 8 32. He that spared not his owne Son but delivered him up for us all how shall he not with him also freely give us all thing Importing that that was Impossible Shall we imagine that that is the greatest love which is common to all and is not able to effectuate the salvation of those upon whom it is set and how can this be that the greatest effect of this greatest love shall be common to all and smaller effects not common also See also 1 Ioh. 4 9 10 11. where this speciall love by which Christ was sent is made peculiar unto beleevers for Iohn is speaking of none else So â—s this love peculiarly terminated on Christ's Wife and Church Ephes. 5 25 2. and hath gracious and saving effects Gal. 2 20. Tit. 3 4 5 6 7. Epes 2 4 5 6. Rom. 8 36 37. 2 Thes. 2.16 17. Revel 1 5 6. Beside that this love is mentioned as an Old Everlasting and Unchangable Love Ier. 31 3. Ephes. 1 3 4. Rom. 9 11. Ioh. 13 1. Zeph. 3 17. And is all this nothing but a General Common thing that cannot save one soul if Lord Free will do not consent of his own accord 16 Moreover 5. if we consider the ends assigned to the Death of Christ mentioned in Scripture we shall see that it was some other thing than a meer Possible Delivery and Redemption common to all mankinde Mat. 18 11. He came to save that which was lost and not to make their salvation meerly possible for if that were all Christs argument should have had no strength So 1 Tim. 1 15. Iesus Christ came into the world to save sinners if it were a meer possibility that might never tâ—ke effect hâ—w should this faithful saying be worthy of all acception So Luk. 19 10. where the matter is exemplified in Zaccheus Mat. 1 21. the reason of the name Iesus given to the Redeemer is becâ—use he shall save his people from their sinnes that is Actually and Really and not Potentially or Poâ—sibly only and this cannot be meaned of all for he sayeth noâ— the Reprobat from their sins at least not from the sin of unbeleef bâ— the confession of Adversaries But here no sin is excepted and therefore is his death restricted to his people whom he saveth from all their sinnes Heb. 2 14 15. there is another end of his death mentioned viz. that he might destroy him that had the power of death that is the devil and deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifâ—time subject to bondage This was no meer Possible Deliverance but Actual and Effectual and it was not common to all for it is restricted to his Brethren vers 11 12 17. and to sones 13. to the children which God gave him vers 13 14. to the Seed of Abraham vers 16. and againe vers 17. wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brâ—thren that he might be a Merciful and Faithfull High priest in things pertaining to God to make reconciliation for the sinnes of the people Behoved Christ to be a Merciful and Faithful High prist in things pertaining to God only to make a Possible Reconciliation whereby it might be that not one person should be reconciled and are the Reprobate his brethen Ephes. 5 25 26. To what end did Christ give himself for his Church And all the world of mankinde belong not to his Church It was that he might sanctifie and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word that he might present it to himself a glorious Church not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing but that it should be holy and without blemish Is this a meer Possibility Then might Christ have died and have had no Church to present to himself faire and spotless his Church might have remained full of spots and wrinkles unholy and full of blemishes yea should have been no Church Tit. 2 14. He gave himself for us that he might redeem us from all iniquity and purifie unto himself a peculiar people zealous of good works Do all the world belong to this peculiar people doth Christ redeem all the world from all iniquity Is all the world purified and made zealous of good works Or is all this a meer maybe which may not be 2 Corinth 5 vers 21. He hath made him to be sin for us who knew no sin that we might be 〈◊〉 the righteousness of God in him Was Christ made sin or a sacrifice for sin that all the world might possibly be made the righteousness of God in him that is that possibly not one person might be made the righteousness of God in him who can dream thus that God's intentions and designes should be so loose and frustrable and that God should be so uncertain in his purposes Gal. 1 4. why did the Lord Iesus give himself for our sinnes It was that he might deliver us from this present evil world according to the will of God and our father This is no meer Possible Deliverance and it is such as was designed not for all the world but for the us there mentioned So Chap. 4 4 5 God sent forth his son made of a woman made under the law to redeem them that were under the law that we might receive the adoption of sones This Real Benefite is manifestly here restrickâ—d Ioh. 17 19. for their sakes I sanctify any self that they also may be sanctified through the truth Christ sanctified himself to be an oblation not to obtaine a meer may be but that they for whose sakes he did sanctifie himself that is they that were given to him vers 6 9. and were his owne vers 10. and were in due time to beleeve in him vers 20. might Really and Actually be Sanctifiâ—d through him Heb. 13 12. wherefore did Iesus suffer without the
gate it was that he might sanctifie the people with his own bloud 〈◊〉 this is more than a may be Rom. 3 25 26. Why did God set forth Christ to be a propitiation It was to declare his righteousness for the remission of sinnes that are past that he might be just and the justifiâ—r of him that â—eleeveth in Iesus a Certaine Real thing Many moe passages might be added to this purpose but these may suffice to discover the absurd falshood of this Quakers doctrine 17. Adde 6. such passages as mention the Actual Accomplishment and Effect of Christ's death where it will yet more appear that this was no meere May be or Possible thing but that which was to have a certaine Bâ—ing and Reality as to the persons for whom it was designed Such as Heb. 1 3. when he had by himself purged our sinnes Can their sinnes be said to be purged who pine away in hell for ever because of their sinnes could this be true if no man had been saved and yet if it had been a mere possible and may be Redemption it might have come to passe that not one person should have been actually saved So Heb. 9 12. by his owne blood he entered in once into the holy place having obtained eternal redemption Is a meer possible Redemption to be called an Eternal Redemption and was that all that Christ obtained Then Christ's blood was more ineffectual in the truth than the type was in its typicalness for the blood of buls and goats and the ashes of an hiefer sprinkling the unclean did not obtaine a possible and may be-sanctification and purifying of the flesh but did actually and really sanctify to the purifying of the flesh vers 13. Againe vers 14. which also confirmeth what is now said how much more shall the blood of Christ who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God So that all such for whom he offeâ—ed himself and shed his blood and none else have their consciences purged from dead works to serve the living God and who dar say that this is common to all or is a meer may be which the Apostle both restricteth and asserteth as a most certaine real thing Againe vers 26. but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself So that he did Actually and Really and not Possibly and Potentially only put away sin the sin viz. of those for whom he was a sacrifice even of them that look for him and to whom he shall appear the second time without sin unto salvation vers 28. and sure no man in his wits will say that this is the whole world Gal. 3 13. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law being made a curse for us 24 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Iesus Christ that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith Here are three Ends and Effects of Christ's Redemption mentioned which no Man will say are common to all viz. Redemption from the curse of the Law this was Really not potentially only done by Christ's being made a curse for us the Communication of the blessing of Abraham and the Promise of the Spirit which are ensured to such as are Redeemed from the curse of the lâ—w and to none else So Ephes. 2 13 14 15 16. But now in Christ Iesus ye who sometimes were afar off are made nigh by the blood of Christ for he is our peace who hath made both one and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us having abolished in his flesh the enmity the Law of commandements in ordinances for to make to himself of twain one nâ—w man so making peace and that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the crosse having slaine the enmity thereby To which adde the parallel place Col. 1 21 22. 2 14 15. was all this delivery from Wrath Enmity Law of commandements whatever was against us but a meer Potential thing and a May be common to all in whose power it was to cause it take effect or not as they pleased Esai 53 5. He was wounded for our transgressions he was bruised for our iniquities the chastisement of our peace was upon him and with his stripes we are healed with 1 Cor. 15.3 Christ died for our sinnes 1 Pet. 2 24. who his owne self bear our sinnes in his own body on the tree by whose stripes we are healed How can we then imagine that all this was a meer May be seing he was so bruised for our iniquities so died for our sins so bear our sinnes in his own body as that thereby all in whose room he stood are healed by his stripes The Apostle doth moreover fully clear this matter Rom. 5 6. Christ died for the ungodly was this for all Or was it to have an uncertane End and effect No vers 9. much more then being now justified by his blood we shall be saved from wrath through him The ungodly and the sinners for whom he died are such as become justified by his blood and shall at length be fully saved from wrath And againe vers 10. for if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his son much more being reconciled we shall be saved by his life Upon his death followeth Reconciliation with God and then Salvation and his death is for no more than his life is for By him also they receive an atonement vers 11. As the consequences and effects of Adam's sin did Certainly and not by a May be redownd to all that he represented and engadged for so the fruites and effects of Christ's death do as certainly come unto such as are his as the Apostle cleareth in the following verses laying the advantage on the side of Christ and his vers 15. much more the grace of God and the gift by grace by one man Iesus Christ hath abounded unto many vers 16. but the free gift is of many offences unto justification vers 17. much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reigne in life by one Iesus Christ vers 18. even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men to justification of life ver 19. so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous vers 21 so might grace reigne through righteousness unto eternal life by Iesus Christ our Lord. Is all this a Common thing and a meer May be or Possibility Ioh. 10 11. he giveth his life for his sheep vers 15. But may they for all that perish No in no wise vers 28. and I give unto them eternal life and they shall never perish He came that they might have life and might have it more abundantly vers 10. To the same purpose he saith Ioh. 6.33 that he
for some sinnes of all and not for all their sinnes for whom he died seing he was a Compleet Cautioner So then as Christ died in their roome and stead as their Cautioner and Sponsor for whom he died wrong should be done to Him if all these for whom he was a Cautioner should not at length actually be delivered out of prison freed from the accusation of the law They for whom he died being in him legally when he died and morally and virtually dying in him and with him must not in justice be made to pay their own debt and satisfie the law over againe Christ's stricking hands as the phrase is Prov. 22 26. and so putting his name in the obligation and accordingly making satisfaction the Principal 's name is blotted out and he freed in the time appointed for he beare our griefs and carryed our sorrowes c. Esai 53 4 5. and by meanes of death he delivered them who through fear of death were all their lifetime ubject to bondage Heb. 2 14 15. 37. This matter will be further clear if we consider 26. How the death of Christ was a Satisfaction and none can deny this but Antichristian Socinians Others willingly grant that Christ did substitute himself in the room of sinners and was willing to undergo the punishment threatned in the Law against sin that the sinners for whom he undertook satisfaction might be freed So he bear their sins Esai 53 11. 1 Pet. 2 24 And he was made sin 2 Cor. 5 21. Hence he is called a Propitiation 1 Ioh. 2 3. 4 10. Rom. 3 25. Whereby we see that Christ took upon him the whole Punishment that was due to sin and that God whom sinners had offended was well pleased with what he did and suffered according to that undertaking yea more pleased than he was displeased with all the sinnes of those for whom he suffered for hereby His Authority and justice was made to appear more glorious excellent How then can we think that many of those it may be all for whom he gave that satisfaction may notwithstanding possibly be made to make satisfaction for themselves as they may by our Adversaries way Was not his satisfaction full compleat Why should any then for whom he gave that satisfaction be liable to Punishment Is this consonant to justice Did not the Lord Jehovah send Christ and fit him with a body for this end Psal. 40 6. Heb. 10 5. laid upon Him the iniquities of us all Esai 53 6 that He might make full satisfaction for them to justice suffer for them all that the Law could demande of them or they were liable unto by the broken Law Did not Christ do suffer all which he undertook to do suffer for this end And did not the Father accept of what he did suffered as a full Compensation Satisfaction And seing this cannot be denied it is manifest that this was done by Christ as a Cautioner Heb. 7 22. how can it be imagined that the Principal debtor shall not thereupon have a fundamental right to freedom pardon in due time after the Gospel method be actually Discharged delivered from the penalty of the Law Redeemed by the Satisfactory Price payed by the Cautioner accepted of the Creditour Doth not the denying of this certain infallible Effect call in question the value worth of Christ's satisfaction and give ground to say that Jehovah was not Satisfied with the price or that Christ made no Satisfaction Did not Christ make Reconciliation for the sinnes of his people Heb. 2 17 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 38. Adde for a further confirmation of this 27. That Christ's death was a propitiating sacrifice He gave himself for us an Offering and a Sacrifice to God for a sweet smelling savour Ephes. 5 2. He offered up himself once Heb. 7 27. He is a sacrifice for us 1 Cor. 5 7. the lamb of God which beareth or taketh away the sin of the world Ioh. 1 29. He offered up himself without spot to God Heb. 9 14 he was once offered to bear the sinnes of many Heb. 9 28. we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Iesus Christ once for all he offered one sacrifice for sin for ever Heb. 10 10 12. Now as the sacrifices under the Law which were a type of this did not procure a General Possible benefite but did procure a Real favour only to the People of God for they sanctified to the purifying of the fâ—esh Heb. 9 13. So certanely this Real and Perfect sacrifice must have a Peculiar and Real Effect and sprinkle consciences from dead works to serve the living God Heb. 9.14 And this is not a thing common to all nor is it a meer Possible thing They must then do a great indignity unto the Sacrifice of Christ who speak of an Universal meerly Possible Redemption 39. Adde to this 28. How upon this Sacrifice which Christ offered up in his death we read of a Reconciliation made Ephes 2 â—6 and that he might Reconcile both unto God in one body by the crosse having slaine the enmity by it or in himself 2 Cor 5 10. when we were enemies we were Reconciled to God by the death of his Son Col. 1 20. and having made peace through the blood of his crosse by him to Reconcile all things unto himself Therefore is he called our Peace Ephes. 2 14. he maketh Peace vers 15. we have Peace with God through our Lord Iesus Christ. Rom. 5 1. Now this Reconciliation being of parties that are at varience must be a Reconciliation of both to other and so a mutual Reconciliation and Christ effectuateth both and both are purchased by his death we cannot then imagine with Socinians that all the Reconciliation mentioned in Scripture is of us to God as if God's Anger and Wrath were not appeased and taken out of the way nor with Arminians that Christ obtained an Universal Reconciliation of God to all but no Reconciliation of man to God friendship betwixt enemies must be mutual if a Reconciliation be and our state before this was enmity Rom. 5 10. Col. 1 20 21. and God's wrath was against us and upon us Ephes 2 3. Ioh. 3 36. But now how will this agree with Universal Redemption Is God Reconciled to all when many perish under his wrath for ever Can God be said to be upon the death of Christ Reconciled to all when it may so fall out that not one soul shall have peace with God How cometh it to passe that many whose Reconciliation Christ hath purchased live and die enemies to God Sure the Apostle tels us 2 Cor. 5 19. that to whom God is reconciled to them he doth not impute sin and he assureth us that all such as are reconciled to God by the death of his Son shall be saved Rom. 5 10. 40. Adde 29. That it seemeth
Yet as the Apostle sayeth concerning God's faithfulness Rom. 3 3 4. for what if some did not beleeve shall their unbeleef make the faith of God of none effect God forbid yea let God be true and every man a liar so say I what if some do not beleeve shall their unbeleefe make the unchangeable Purposes and Intentions of God of none effect No let God be Unchangeable and every man a Changeling and as for Ioh. 3 16. On which our Adversaries build much though this Quaker hath not the wit to improve what they have said the meaning of the place is directly against them for the words run thus in the original 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 i. e. for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that all beleeving or all beleevers or every one that beleeveth in him might nâ—t perish but have everlasting life So that his death here is manifestly restricked unto Beleevers and if our Adversaries shall prove that either all are or shall be Beleevers we shall easily grant without disput that Christ died for them all And this is further manifest from the preceeding verse unto which this is subjoyned as a Confirmation and connected by the particle 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for there Christ had said that all and every beleever in him should not perish but have everlasting life and vers 14. as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness even so must the son of man be lifted up now lest Nicodemus should suppose that because Christ had made mention of the brazen serpent which Moses lifted up in the wilderness the benefite of which was peculiar to the Jewes that therefore the benefite of Christ's death should reâ—ound only to the advantage of the beleeving Jewes our Lord sheweth in the proof vers 16. the large extension of the death of Christ to wit that God sent not his Son for the Jewes only but for the Gentiles also whom the Jewes looked upon as devouted to destruction and said that they should all be destroâ—ed in the dayes of the Messiah and whom they ordinarily stiled the Nations of the world as is observed by such as are versed in the writings of the Rabbines and in the Talmuds To rectifie therefore this mistake Christ tels Nicodemus one of the Jewes Rulers and Rabbies that God so loved the world that is the Gentiles whom they called the Nations of the world that he gave his only begotten son that all beleevers even among them should not perish and in the next vers addeth moreover for God sent not his son into the word to condemne the world that is the Gentiles as they foolishly imagined but that the world through him might be saved See Ioh. 6 v. 33 51. 2 Cor. 5 v. 19. Ioh. 4 v. 42. 12 vers 47. 60. He proceedeth § 8 and bringeth another proof from Heb. 2 9. where it is said that Iesus by the grace of God should taste death for every man And thence he inferreth that if he tasted death for all then there were none for whom he did not taste death therefore there is none that may not partake of the benefite of his death Ans. 1. That for every man in the original is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 by an enallage for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for all and this tasting of death was no other then dying as Mat. 16 28. Mark 9 1. Luk. 9 27. Ioh. 8.52 Shall we now think that Christ died for all and every man that is in their roome and stead as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 importeth Philemâ— 13 2 Cor. 15 20. and alwayes in profane Authors when mention is made of one dying for another and frequently also in the 70. version as when David wished to have died for Absolom and one King is said to have reigned in the stead and place of another and yet that many of these same men shall die for themselves and suffer in their own persons what Christ suffered for them This is the import of this mans glosse Nay when Christ by his death in the room of all every man did procure no more than that they might partake of the benefite of his death it might so have come to passe that not one of all these all and every one should ever have reaped any good of his death 2. What we are to look upon as the proper import of this and the like Universal terme we have showne above And the Apostle here writing unto the Hebrewes who as was said fondly conceited that salvation belonged to them alone and that the Gentiles should reap no benefite of the Messiah had ground to use the same that they might see the Messiah was not for them alone 3. What these all are for whom Christ tasted death the text clearly sheweth when they are called Sones who must be brought to glory and not have a meer may be of salvation and of whose salvation Christ is peculiar Captane vers 10 the Sanctified who are all of one with the Sanctifier and his Brethren vers 11 12 17. that belong to his Church vers 12. The Children which God had given him vers 13. who were to be dilivered vers 15. did belong to the seed of Abraham vers 16. and for whose sins he made reconciliation vers 17. whom he succoureth in temptation vers 18. If this context do not sufficiently confute this conceite we need regaird the Scriptures no more 61. He addeth Ioh. 3 17. 12 47. And then tels us that by our doctrine Christ should rather be said to have come to condemne the world for if he came not to bring salvation to the most part of the world but to augment their comdemnation he came of purpose not to save but to condemne the world Ans. Prejudice hath so far blinded this mans eyes that he seeth not the beame in his owne eye He observeth not that by his owne opinion this may be more truely said of Christ viz that he came to Condemne the world and the whole world than of ours for by his opinion not one man might have been saved because Christ only procured a meer Possibility and no Certanty for any one man as he supposeth and can he be so blinde as not to see that this is worse than to say that Châ—ist shall certanely save some though the greatest part shall perish 2. was not Christ set for the fall of many Luk. 2 34. and for a stumbling block Esai 8 14 15. Rom. 9 33. 1 Pet. 2 7. Esai 28 26. Sayeth not Christ himself Ioh. 9 39 for judgment I am come into this world that they which see might be made blinde See also Ioh. 15 22 24. But 3. Our answere is this that Christ came indeed to save the World that is his People scattered up and down the world and especially among the Gentiles whom the Iewes looked upon as was said lately as the Nations of the Gentiles who were to be destroyed at the coming
to help his owne to performance of duty in part upon a new score let them mourne for shortcomings and flee to the bloud of Christ conforme to the Gospel that there they may get extracts of pardon and be thankful that the Lord hath so secured the matter that they shall never come into condemnation 21. As to the saints he reasoneth further thus Their imperfection is either from themselves or from God If from themselves then it is because they use not the power they have for that effect and if they have a power it is not impossible if from God as not giving them that measure of grace whereby they may be enabled to do all his will then He should be unrighteous Ans. Thus reasoned the Pelagian Caelestius of old and Crellius the Socinian of late See Hoornb ubisupra Pag. 103. And we say 1. This will at most conclude only for a possibility of Perfection or immunity from sin and so will not serve his point 2. If he mean a culpable cause I say it is from themselves and that not because they have any moral power now for keeping the whole Law perfectly though I grant withall that they have more than they make good use of but because that power which was once given was sinfully cast away 3. It is false that God should be unrighteous if he gave not that measure of grace whereby they should become perfect Nay sayes he God shall be more unjust than are the vilest of men who will not give to their children asking bread a stone nor a serpent to them when asking for fish Ans. The Lord rebuke this blasphemous tongue what ground is there for this They confess sayes he that they must ask of God deliverance from sin Very true And yet such a thing is never to be expected The Lord forbid We expect and hope for growing deliverance and final and full deliverance in end when the saints shall say and sing O grave where is thy victory and O death where is thy sting And they shall come unto the upper mount Zion the city of the living God to the Spirits of just men made perfect when all teares shall be wiped away from off their faces But it seemeth our Quakers expect all their heaven here Where is now the stones that God giveth instead of bread the serpents he giveth instead of fish His following calumnious insinuation hath been spoken to already elsewhere 22. His third argument followeth Pag. 156. § 5. He sayes our opinion is injurious to Christ and his sacrifice Christ was manifested chiefly for this end to take away sin and gather a people to himself zealous of good works Tit. 2 14. and to bring in everlasting righteousness that is Evangelical perfection Answ So hote is this man in his pursuite that to reach us he careth not though he pierce his owne bowels for by this one argument he destroyeth all that he said of Vniversal Redemption as we cleared above Chap. VIII But as to us it reacheth us not for we grant that Christ came to take away sin both as to guilt and this he did by the sacrifice of himself and as to the staine and being of it and this he doth by his Spirit piece and piece till in end he give full victory and so he hath a people redeemed from the guilt and power of iniquity though not fully from its presence and stirrings and a people zealous of good works which is not inconsistent with the stirrings of a crucified body of death That that everlasting righteounsess mentioned by Daniel Chap. 9. is to be understood of Evangelical perfection is said but not proved Againe he sayes It is said 1 Ioh. 3 5 8. that the Son of God appeared for this end to take away our sinnes and to destroy the works of the devil Answ. True and so he hath done by taking away the guilt and by destroying daily the works of the devil in his people mortifying lust and corruption and carrying on the work of grace till at length it be perfected Ay but he sayes it is added he that is borne of God doth not commit sin that is doth not break the Law in thought word or deed Answ. What that is to commit sin we shewed above and also that by this passage thus interpreted he shall prove what is against himself to wit that that highest degree of Perfection which whosoever hath attained cannot sin any more is not peculiar to some but common to all that are borne of God Is not Christ sent saith he further to turne a people from sin unto righteousness and from the Kingdom of Satan unto the Kingdom of his dear Son Answ. Yes Are not these thus converted his servants children brethren friends Ans. They are Are they not as he in the world holy pure and immaculate Answ. The text saith not this Read againe 1 Ioh. 4 27 Doth not Christ watch over them care and pray for them save them by his Spirit walking in them and among them Ans. This is all true and â—hence we inferre that they shall certainly be perfected in end and shall persevere unto the end contrare to what he saith as we shall see in the next Chap. But all this will not prove a sinless Perfection common to all the saints But will not Christ have them perfect or is he not able to make them perfect Ans. Yes But he will do it in his owne time and way He himself will not deny but Christ is able to make them all perfect in the highest degree so as not to be able to sin any more yet for all that he will not say that it is so He citeth also Ephes 5 25 26 27. But nothing to his purpose for we grant that the Lord will present his Bride to himself one day faire and cleane without spot or wrinkle or any such thing and that he is about this work bringing all his forward unto this state of perfection washing them cleansing them in his blond and by his Spirit sanctifying them more and more But saith he if they do sin in thought word and deed dayly there is no difference betwixt the holy and profane the cleane and unclean c. Answ. Notwithstanding of this the difference is great for what the profane doth is nothing but sin and in nothing accepted of God through Christ and is done with full purpose of heart without any contrary lusting of the Spirit all they do as it floweth from an evil principle so it is done for an evil end and in a corrupt sinful manner and so is wholly defiled But it is not so with the child of God He mourneth over and repenteth of his shortcomings and striveth against sin The other not So there are many moe differences too many here to be insisted upon 23. His fourth Argument Pag. 157 § 6. is That our doctrine maketh the work of the ministry preaching prayers c. useless while as Paul sayes Ephes.
to be circumcised when he did this to Cornelius the common opinion was that the Gentiles should be circumcised Ans. Where readeth he that Peter compelled the Gentiles to be circumcised That failing of his Gal. 2 12. will not prove this much and this was also after the unanimous resolution of the Apostles and Elders at Ierusalem Act. 15. â—not to put the burden of circumcision other Jewish ceremonies beside the few excepted for avoiding of Scandal upon the neck of the Gentiles And though this calumny of the Quakers had some ground Yet the difference betwixt the one practice the other is great Christ by his death did break down the middle wall of partition so put an end to the Jewish ceremonies but he did not so with his owne Gospel Institutions but rather confirmed them Where readeth he that at that time when Cornelius was baptized it was the common opinion that the Gentiles should be circumcised And how came it that Peter did not circumcise Cornelius if that was the common opinion But we must take dreames for reasons from Quakers For it is much that they will give any thing like a reason though it be but a reason with a rag and sometimes worse 18. Against the native signification of the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I wash with water he giveth in his exceptions Pag. 283. § 10. saith That baptisme with water was in use among the Iewes before Iohn's dayes as Paulus Riccius witnesseth and so that ceremony gote the name from the nature of the thing Ans. Though all this were true it will be but a confirmation of this native signification of the word And he and his Paulus Riccius both will have enough to do to make it but probable that baptisme was in use among the Jewes before Iohn Baptist's dayes for as for the Jewish writings the eldest whereof come not near to Iohn's dayes we owe them no faith their designe being the same with the Quakers designe to wit to destroy Christianity the foundation of which was laid by Rabbi Iehuda Hakkadosh about the year 190. or 200. when he wrote the Misnaioth or Iewish Alcoran He addeth Christ and his Apostles give these terms a more spiritual signification Ans. That the word is sometimes taken figuratively as when we read of baptizeing with the holy Ghost and with fire we know as we read also of circumcision of the heart will he therefore interpret the Law concerning Circumcision of the heart excluding the outward circumcision of the foreskin of the flesh Why hath he forgoten his owne axiome granted by all mentioned Pag 278. that the propriety of the word should not be forsaken nor a figurative sense admitted unless necessity compel May not this serve to convince him that we must hold by the proper signification of the word and reject his figurative till he demonstrate the necessity He addeth if we hold to the etymology of the word we must dip in baptisme Ans. Whether we baptize by dipping or sprinkling it is all alike to him for neither will please him and either will prove that baptisme is with water Neither doth the word alwayes signify washing by dipping in the N. T. see Mark 7 4. Heb. 9 10. 1 Cor. 10 2. Act. 9 11 18. As for Iohn 3 5. I shall not urge it and so passe what he saith to it And what followeth is either little or nothing to the purpose or is answered already And as to the baptizing of Infants we need not be at paines to prove this to him who denieth all baptisme whether of Infants or of old Persons And so we come to hear what he saith of the Lords Supper against which he also fighteth CHAP. XXVII Of the Lords Supper 1. WE have seen this Mans weak reasons and strong rage against the Institution of Baptisme And must have a little more patience and hear the like against the Lord's Supper Such is their malice against all the Ordinances of Jesus Christ that nothing will satisfie them but a total extirpation of them all without exception of any and such is their enmity against Christ that they will have every memorial of him quite taken away that there might nothing remaine to discriminate us from Pagans And indeed if their Principles prevaile all Christianity is overturned and manifest Paganisme is introduced Christ did institute a Supper to be religiously observed in remembrance of himself and these men will not be satisfied to take away Baptisme the engadging and honourable badge of Christians but they must have the ordinance of the Supper of our Lord also quite Cashiered that by time when this lasting memorial is removed people may be more easily enduced to renunce all Christianity and perswaded to embrace Paganisme And thus they have sucked-in the venome of some of old who were against all Sacraments such as the Ascothyptoe Messalians Acephali Henry Nicolas the Father of the family of love Swenckfeldus and Almaricus the first broacher of the Seculum Spiritus S. wherein there was to be no use of Sacraments And they are in this worse then the Antichristian Socinians who though they destroy the principal end of these Sacraments viz. to be sealing and confirming ordinances owneing them only for outward professions of faith and thanksgiving yet keep up something of the practice but these our Quakers would take away both name and thing and the thing it self with all its uses and ends that so nothing might stand in their way while posting towards Paganisme 2. But whatever these Desperadoes say we must hold for a sure truth That our Lord Jesus in the night wherein he was betrayed instituted the Sacrament of his body and blood called the Lords Supper to be observed in his Church unto the end of the world for the perpetual remembrance of the Sacrifice of himself in his death the sealing all benefites thereof unto true believers their spiritual nourishment and grouth in him their engadgment in and to all duties which they owe unto him and to be a bond and pledge of their communion with him and with each other as members of his mystical body 1 Cor. 11 23 to 26. and 10 16 17 21. and 12 13. For therein by giving and receiving bread and wine according to the appointment of Jesus Christ his death is shewed forth and they that worthily communicate feed upon his body and blood to their spiritual nourishment and grouth in grace Mat. 26 26 27 28. 1 Cor. 11 23 24 25 26. have their Union and Communion with him Confirmed 1 Cor. 10 15. Testifie and Renew their Thankfulness 1 Cor. 11 24 25 26. and Engagement to God 1 Cor. 10 v. 14 15 16 21. and their Mutual Love Fellowshipe each with other as members of the same mystical body 1 Cor. 10 17. And though the body and blood of Christ be not Corporally or Carnally present in with or under the outward Elements of bread and wine Act. 3 21. yet they are spiritually present
workings of the Prince of darkness tickling their fanciâ—s and complying with their blinded minds and corrupt humores and hereby draw strength and confirmation to their abominable errours and practices and are more deeply rooted and fixed in the same howbeit contrary to the divine light of the Word of God to the very light of Nature and pure Reason and to all the true experiences of the holy and upright walkers with God and are more fortified and animated in their rage and opposition to all the wayes of God And sure I am the Saints of God though they will not with such a pharisaical froathy ostentation talk of their enjoyments as these wicked deceivers do on all occasions to set forward the desperat designes of the Devil in them and by them yet know what rich incomes of Joy unspeakable and full of glory of Strength and Encouragment in the wayes of the Lord of Peace Serenity of soul of Light and Consolation satisfying all their desires and making their souls to run over and all this in compliance and harmony with the word for a verification and accomplisment of the rich promises of the New Covenant ordered in all things and sure and confirmation of the truth and reality of the workings of the grace of God in their soul whereâ—y they were to their owne feeling sealed with that holy Spirit of promise which is the earnest of their inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession unto the praise of his glory they have had in this Ordinance Melting their hearts with true tenderness and godly sorrow and Kniting their souls more firmly in love to God in Christ and Engaging them to run the wayes of the Lord with all chearfulness enlargedness of heart and delectaâ—ion and to Strive against the enemies of the glory of God and of their salvation whether within or without with more courage alacrity and resolution of soul So that I am perswaded they will upon this very account detest and abominate tâ—ese co-workers with Satan and finde themselves called of God for his glory their owne security to remove far from their tents who drive such a desperate and hellish designe against heaven and against all the Interests of Jesus Christ their Lord and Saviour 4. These desperate Despisers of the goodness and condescensions of love malacious Opposers of all the wayes of God in manifest mockage substitute our ordinary repasts in the room of this soul-feeding Ordinance for thus speaketh that blasphemous wretch Ia. Nayler in his love to the lost Pag 45. as Mr Stalham citeth him in his book for the sake of such who are lost in this thing troubled in mind concerning it what I have received of the Lord that I shall declare unto you which all shall witness to which come to partake thereof as the truth is in Iesus Christ. If you intend to sup with the Lord or shew the Lord's death till he come let your eating and drinking so oft as you do it be in remembrance of him and in his fear that at death you may witness to the lust and excess c. And Pag. 43. he said this was to be done at all seasons when they eat and drank and Pag. â—4 that the Lord commanded his disciples in eating and drinking to shew forth his death till he come to avoide excess and becomeing reprobats in the faith Is not tâ—is a sufficient discovery of the Spirit that acteth them 5 Let us now come to examine what this our Quaker saith in this matter and passing his intrade wherein after his manner he upbraideth all with their ignorance of this mystery as if they only were admitted to the secrets of God and acquanted with the mysteries hid from all the generations of the Christian Châ—rch we come to the answere he giveth to that question what is that body which we eat and that blood which we drink which is this Pag. 288. It is sayes he That celestial seed that divine and spiritual substance of which we spoke Thes. 5. 6. that vehicle or spiritual body of Christ whereby he communicateth life and salvation to all that believe in and receive him by which also man obtaineth communion with God To which we need say nothâ—ng here having fully discovered above Chap. X. what this Seed Substance and Vehicle is in their judgment to wit nothing but what is in every Son of Adam as he comâ—th into the world the dimme light of a natural conscience and of a reasonable soul having some dark notions of a God and of some principles of morality without the least imagination or apprehension of any of the wayes of the grace of God revealed in the Gospel yea which hath a native and inbred enmity at and antipathy against the mysteries of love and grace manifested in the Gospel This this is the Quakers Christ the Food of their souls the Substance whereupon they feed this is all that true bread which they have to eat And while he calleth it a substance he joyneth with the old Heracleonites who said thâ—t man was composed of a Body of a Soul and of a third Substance And the hearkning unto and believing this Natural thing which is in all â—eathens and Pagans receiving its light is all their Feast and all the meanes of Communion which they have or expect to have with God so that it is sufficiently manifest that the hieght of their Religion is moralized Paganisme And yet he dar say that â—his is confirmed Iohn 6. from v. 32. to the end And thereby give us to understand that they acknowledge no other true bread which the Father giveth from heaven but this which all Turks and Pagans have This is their Jesus and their Bread of God that came down from heaven and this is the only thing that giveth them life so that they shall never hunger nor thirst They are given of the Father to this thing and by this will they be raised up at the last day when they hearken to this then they are taught of God and have learned of the Father according to the writings of the Prophets yea if they but believe this they have everlasting life for this is their Bread of life whereof if they eat they shall not die but live forever this is with them the flesh that was given for the life of the world this is all the flesh they eat and all the blood they drink and thus they dwell in Christ and Christ in them O what a desperate delusion is this What a wonder is it that men who believe they have immortal souls and have ever heard of the Gospel dar thus speak and metamorphose the whole Gospel into pure Paganisme This sure must be a more than ordinary judicial stroke of blindness delusion of a reprobat minde and of a perverse Spirit with which these men are manifestly plagued and the Devil must have an extraordinary power in them and over them acting and driveing them
suffered without the gates of Ierusalem and by his death and offering all things is accomplished for them and no sin shall be imputed to them though they live in it that is are not Quakers and through his Mediation and Intercession for them as â—e is at the right hand of God at a distance from them they beleâ—ve that they have access to God and are accepted of him and yet they neither know God nor Christ nor the place where they saâ— he sits at the right hand of God and being in their minde perswaded that Christ hath satisfied and hath reconciled them to God though they be yet in their sinnes that is not Quakers This evidenceth what account they make of a Christ without and of his Righteousness 2. What doth their common taking of a Spiritual body bloud which Christ had which came downe from heaven mean Do they mean by the blood of Christ the blood that came from that man that died a Ierusalem as a sacrifice for sin No they cannot mean that for that is but outward blood that cannot cleanse the conscience This body was but his Temple or Vessel and not his body which went to heaven And this it seemeth they have learned from Mahomet who speaketh of Christ in his Alcoran not much unlike to this Azoar XI what mean they by that Spiritual body whereof that blood was a part which Christ brought with him from heaven and which dwelt for a while in the man Jesus who died at Ierusalem Can such as talk thus be orthodox in this mater Do they not meane by the blood through which Justification and purifying cometh the blood of that spiritual body which Christ brought from heaven with him and which is in every Quaker as really as in Maryâ—s Son Do they mean by the body of Christ that boâ—y which was crucified at Ierusalem Or not rather the thing which they call a Spiritual body which tabernackled in the body of Jesus the Son of Mary and which is as well in them as it was in him And is not this to deny the life and death of Christ without us and Justification thereby Do they mean by Christ by whom we are justified and saved God-man or a real man that was born of Mary assumed into the subsistence of the Godhead Or any thing created and that was visible to the bodily eye or any thing but that which is within themselves What else meaneth that expression of Penningtons quaest p 20. For that which he that is Christ took upon him was our garment but he is of an heavenly nature and his flesh and bloud and bones are of his nature And p. 33. This we certainly know and can never call the bodily garment Christ but that which appeared and dwelt in the body Do they not hereby deny the man Christ Jesus and any interest in him who was of the seed of Abraham and had our nature and is maâ— still in glory Of all this we need doubt no more now since G. Keith hath so fully unvailed this mystery in his late book now come to hand wherein instead of confuting that Postcript to Mr Rutherfoords letters which he pretended he hath more then sufficiently confirmâ—d the same as may be shown in due time 3. Do they not deny that Christ who came in the fulness of time according to the Prophecies and promises and took on our nature and suffered therein and renunce all benefite thereby when they say that Christ's nature is not humane and talk of his being now manifested in the flesh that is in them who are Quakers See Fox's mystery c. p. 71. what else can be the import of their denying a Christ without and calling it a carnal Christ but a plaine denying of him who was touched with the feeling of our infirmities and was in all points tempted like as we are yet without sin 4. When they ascribe salvation to a Christ within do they not deny the Christ without Fox in his great mystery p 8. And no one knowes salvation but who knowes thiâ— Christ in you who is the Salvation and where he is within there is salvation Fox the younger p. 49.50.54 And you whom the power of the prince of the air hath led out of me you scorn me the light in you They have disobeyed it and called it a natural light and ye have said that I the light am not able to save those that beleeve in me That if you would believe and wait in me the light I will purg out all your iniquities and forgive all your trespasses and I will change your nature and make you new Creatures if ye will hearken to me and obey the light in you Smith Cat. c. p. 64.71 And this Christ in us is he in whom our salvation standeth as the mediator between God and man the man Christ Iesus and we also know and beleeve that he is the same Chriâ—t in us which in dispensations past did humble himself to the cross Mason's loving Invit p. 5. If ever man be justified by his maker then by believing in God's Covenant of light which in the conscience bears its testimony against all iniquity then let me â—or ever be condemned from the presence of the righteous God Smith prim p. 9. tels us expresly thaâ— the Christ without and the Christ within have no more followship together than the East hath with West And therefore the asserting of the one must be a quite destroying of the other Hear once more the Morning watch p. 41. And as you give up to that measure of light in your own consciences and wait to be guided by it and exercised in it you will know Christ revealed within you whom you are looking â—or without you and put his day far off from you and so live in want of him and know not how to come to him nor the place where to finde him but live in the dreamings and night visions and have a talk of him and what he hath done for you and so spend your precious time in slumbering and dreaming c. 5 What meaneth that of Ed. Burroughs p 31. cited by Mr Hicks in his 2. Dial. Pag. 21.22 Silence flesh wouldst thou who art an enemy to God know how we are reconciled to God and by what obedience Owne the light in thy conscience and be obedient to that then thou shalt know by what obedience we are râ—conciled to God c. is this to speak soundly of the Righteousness of Christ 6. What meane they by Christ's sufferings still and by satisfaction made by Christs sufferings in his saints Burroughs p. 31. saith Thou blasphemer askest thou knowest not what is not â—hrist the same as ever And is not the sufferings of Christ satisfactory wherever We need adde no more there being enough here to discover their renunceing of the sufferings and death of Christ who died at Ierusalem as being any way satisfactory to the justice of God or sinnes 6.