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A02375 The contre-Guyse vvherein is deciphered the pretended title of the Guyses, and the first entrie of the saide family into Fraunce, with their ambitious aspiring and pernitious practises for the obtaining of the French crowne. 1589 (1589) STC 12506; ESTC S120871 51,697 96

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counsell do make it void as also the protestations of our kings and the parliaments of this realme take from it al strength beauty what reasons then haue we to conuince these protestants of heresie Where they confesse not the bishop of Rome to be vniuersall they say S. Gregory taught that it was a prophane name sacrilegious and a foregoing of Cap. 16. Antichrist for saith he if he that is named vniuersall stumbleth the whole Church falleth They doo also alledge the 3. Councell of Carthage wherein it was forbiddē that any shuld be called Prince of bishops Authent Col. 2. tit 4. For as for that which wee reade in the Autenticals touching the high Priest they greatly suspect it and as Duarene noteth that constitution is not to be seene in the greek Code If they walke in darkenes if Duaren de sac sand Eccles ministeriis li. 1. cap. 10. August Epist 12. they be blind in that mistery which we cal the holy sacramēt of the altar let vs shew thē the light cōdemne S. Austē of heresie who against Adamantus the disciple of Manichee saith thus these three things The blood is water This is my body and The stone was Christ are spoken figuratiuely by signe and by significatiō Let vs reiect that which Tertullian writeth against Tertu lib. 4 Amb. lib. de sacram Cap. 1. Marcion Iesus Christ hauing taken bread and broken it to his disciples made it his body by saying This is my body that is to say the signe of my bodie Let vs correct Ambrose Like as in baptisme thou hast receiued the similitude of death euen so hast thou also in this sacrament dronke the similitude of the pretious bloud of Christ Where as they bee so grosse that they cannot comprehend purgatorie let vs prooue vnto them that the bloud of our Lord is not sufficient to purge vs from our sinnes Let vs plainely shewe them the name or doctrine of Purgatorie in the scripture and reiect this place of Chrisostome When we craue mercie Chrisost hom 2. in 50. Psalm we do it to the end not to be examined of our sinne to the ende not to be dealt with according to the rigor of iustice to the ende all punishment may cease for where there is mercie there resteth no farther torture examination extremitie or paine For eating flesh in Lent they do it say they by the permission of Pope Eleutherius by the authoritie Dist 30. ca. 51. quis of the Councel of Bracare holden in the yeare 619. and of the 13. Councel of Tolete which excommunicateth all such as forbid the eating of flesh at all times indifferently Also by the example of the holie bishop of Cyrus Spiridon who said That hee durst Hist Tripart lib. 1. cap. 10. freely eat flesh in lent because he was a Christian In that they adorne not their temples with sundrie pictures and images It is say they because Athanasius thus crieth out against the Gentiles Whie come yee not to the knowledge of God by the true creatures rather then by shadowes and remembrances It is because they credite the saying of Lactance Firmian Lact. lib. 2. Instit ca. 1. That God whose spirite and power is dispersed al ouer can not bee absent and therefore that the image is superfluous It is because they be tyed to this place of Augustine August de Cuit lib. 4. cap. 9. 13 The first bringers in of Images tooke the feare of God out of the world and augmented error If their ministers marry they do it because we say that marriage is a sacrament and the ministers of the church ought to participate in euery sacrament they doo it because S. Ambrose saith Let no man be restrained lest while we forbid him a thing lawfull he falleth to vnlawfull They do it because in Euseb they find that Euseb li. 3. cap. 27. S. Peter Philip were married They do it because S. Austē saith That he dare not prefer S. Iohns virginity Aug. tract de Nupt. cap. 21. before Abrahams marriage They do it because Pope Pius said that for good cause they had takē mariage from priestes but for greater cause they ought to restore it They doo it least men should haue occasion with Platina de vitis pontisicum Pope Alexander to say That God hath taken awaie sonnes from Priests but the diuell hath giuen them Nephenes As for other points in controuersie if we deepely and fully consider of them we shall finde that they consist rather in outward ceremonies of the church then in substance of doctrine which is not cause sufficient to denounce them heretikes for heresie hath relation to the substantiall points of faith not to the outward ceremonies But howsoeuer it be by the order of the common and ancient decrees they cānot be accounted heretikes before they haue bin admonished by sundrie synodes iudged by a councell whereupon Pope Gregorie the seuenth writeth to the Princes of Germanie concerning the excōmunication of the Emperor Henry the fourth thus We haue sought to bring him to repentance but to Abbas vsperg in Hen. 4. our faire songs he hath lent the adders eare Also Pope Innocent the third speaking of heretikes saith If a bishop with his chapter haue condemned any man of heresie let him be accursed He must therfore be iudged before he be condemned and heard before he bee L. Diuus F. de in Integ restit Solomenes lib. 1. ca. 16. iudged otherwise the Lawyer Marcellus sheweth that the partie absent is to bee restored against the sentence pronounced in the preiudice of his reasons not alledged Likewise the Emperor Cōstātine for the cutting off of the heresie of Arrius a priest Euag. lib. 2. cap. 2. of Alexandria called the first councell of Nice where he gaue day of assignation to the Arrians Martian for abolishing the error of Eutiches called the fourth councell at Calcedon Theodosius the 2. Euag. lib. 1 cap. 3. 4. assembled the 3. at Ephesus against the heresie of Nestorius Gratian and Theodose Emperors for rooting out the doctrine of Macedonius called the second at Constantinople And yet do we binde the Popes to mount Caucasus we make them to turne Ixions wheele roule Sisiphus stone when we call for a councell so that the K. of the Romains and K. Lewis the 12. in the yeare 1510. could obtaine none at the hands of Pope Iulius the 2. Also when Charles the 5. being at Bologne by his Chancelor ptopounded a generall assembly of all Christian Bishops Pope Clement answered him in bitter words that it needed not sith that all nēw opinions were condemned by the ancient councels aswel might he haue said that the ancient coūcels were superfluous considering that the holy Ghost in his word cōdemneth all heresies But the chiefe purpose of councels tendeth to call heretikes to repentance to pray to God in thē to fulfil the prophecie of Ezechiell I will