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A89845	A publike discovery, of the open blindness of Babels builders, and their confused language, who have been building without, till they deny faith, knowledge and the Gospel light within, the law of the new covenant, and matter of the new creature. Plainly laid open in an answer to a book intituled A publike discovery of a secret deceipt, subscribed John Deacon, in behalf of some who pretend a call to the ministry. Wherein their first queries their replyes; their answers to my queries, and their last queries is answered, and their whole work laid open, and the end thereof with queries sent back, by them to be answered, that their boasting spirit may be farther revealed, & its blindness. Here is also some of their confusions taken out of the heap, and set by themselves to be seen, how they will stand in the eye of truth, where but the least measure of God is known. / By an enemy to deceit, but a friend to the creation, called James Naylor.	Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.	1656 (1656)	Wing N305; Thomason E870_2; ESTC R204793	29,385	50

Gal. 1. 11 12. Reply answered In this I am called blind Sophister again and you say it would be absurd to imagine that any should preach the Gospel of Christ as from themselves though say you I dare presume to say you do so that though it be absurd so to say yet you dare presume to say it for your priviledge is to speak absurd things and to presume so to do yet not see your selves herein which did you mind the light you might see the blinde Sophister at home but this is not the first absurdity by many in your Book which you have presumed to cast upon me though you have not confessed to them all as to this Also this must not be without a lye more which is that I bring the means to testifie against it selfe but cannot instance wherein and when thou hast confessed that we preach the Gospel of Christ and saies you dare presume to say we do then say you but tell me hath that man any one spark of Grace or Truth in him that cannot see you are truthless So to preach the Gospel of Christ is a truthless thing amongst you and such blind stuff as this you cast out at random nor have I denied any means in my Answer that God is free to make use on as you would accuse for I have learned otherwise then to limit him to means or from means in what he hath not declared I am silent but this I say what means soever he uses the hireling is denied and they whose worship is not according to Scripture as your high-place worship is not neither in call maintenance nor manner of worship in any one particular And this I am ready to make appear when I shall be called thereto not withstanding ●●● the filthy venomous names you have called me in your replies which shews your inside and the fruits of your Ministrie and serve most for that end for me they touch not nor hath your Replies in the least shaken my answers though your unclean languaege have shewen your own foundation and confusion thereon builded Reply to the pretended Answers subscribed John Deacon unto fourteen Queries put forth by James Naylor Quere I. NOw seeing you so much oppose the light within and spirit and set up the Letter for the Light I say seeing it is plain all the Saints had a light in Spirit to guide them in wayes accepted in all ages before the Letter was if you be spiritual men give it in writing what that Light was where it was and how they came by it when they had no Letter or was it sufficient before the Letter is it the same now or when or how was it changed and the Letter set in its stead 1. Answer and Reply In the Answer to this Quere I am charged with a lye because I say you oppose the light within and spirit and sets up the Letter for the Light yet in the Answer your great work is to deny the Law written in the heart and place it now in the Letter and sayes the Gospel is not known by being within and sayes it is one of the most principal Controversies between us Christians and the Quakers and saies that which was once written in the heart and was sufficient is now become insufficient and now since the thing you have stated that the Controversie must be betwixt the Law that was received at mount Sinai which you call a lively Oracle and that which God hath written in the heart we will search the Scripture for whom it bears testimony and with whom they side in this controversie Jer. 31. God in ●es a promise of the new Covenant after they had broken that which you call a lively Oracle and saith God this shall be my Covenant I will make with the house of Israel I will put my Law in their inward parts and write it in their hearts and they shall teach no more every Man his Neighbour and every Man his Brother saying know the Lord for all shall know me from the least to the greatest And Paul Heb. 8. witnesseth the same words and sayes the first Covenant was faulty And in 2 Cor. 3. he calls that which was engraven in stones the ministration of death and said he he was not a Minister of it but of the spirit for said he the Letter killeth but the spirit giveth life and saith it is done away that is in the letter And David saith of a righteous man the Law of God is in his heart so that none of his steps shall slide Psal 37. 3● and Paul saith the Law of Spirit and life in Christ Jesus made me free from the Law of Sin and Death and this Law you say is become unsufficient and yet with the same shameless mouth am I accused for a lye saying you oppose the light within and set up the l●●ter behold your work and be ashamed you blind guides who know not the light in you your states you may read Eph. 4. 18 19. and this blind work you have in hand is suitable And further to manifest your blindness you say before that law their sins were no sins so by your doctrine it were no sin for Cain to kill his Brother and Sodom and the old world suffered without sin by your Doctrine and such dark muddy stuff as this you utter but leaves the Quere wholly unanswered Quer. 2. Reeing you say the Scripture is a Rule declare in plainness is the whole Scriptures a Rule to all men and women to take up the practise thereof or how much of it is and to how many people and to whom in particular seeing the Saints in all ages had their particular commands how may weak people know which of their commands they must take up and which they must not and when they have found the commands where they must have the power and whether that which gives the commands be not the power only accepted for performance deal plain herein that people may know what to do and what they have done that they be not always learning and never able to come to the end of their labours and rest of God 2. Answer and Reply In the Answer to this Quere after you have uttered a sort of frothy words you come to lay down an impudent lye saying private Saints had never particular and peculiar commands and ere you leave the Quere you contradict your lye your selves saying Noah had a particular command to build an Ark and John to Baptize and the Apostles to Preach c. But for Answer to the Quere which asks how people may know which of these commands they must follow you send us to Reverend Pens to seek but names not where and so steals away from it Que● 3. Seeing Christ preached the Kingdom of God within unbeleevers and the Apostle saith that which may be known of God is manifest in them and that they came to the knowledge of God and his glory by the light that shone

God 1 Thes 1. 1. Such onely are out of Babylon who are gathered out of the world by the spiritual light of Christ and there hath it been ever since his Passion and he hath never been without though but in a small number which he hath saved which the world hated and scornfully miscalled and into prisons and corners have they been driven all this time of the man of Sin and his Papal Priesthood but now he is come who is spreading his truth and multiplying his seed as a cloud to the Egyptians wherefore the Heathen rage exceedingly But it seems by thy Quere that thou ownest the Church all along since the Apostles to have been in the multitude of the Popish Priests rather then in the Martyrs seeing thou speakest so scornfully of a small number to be the Church of Christ who are so contemptible which the Church ever was and so it is at this day Luk. 12. 32. Mat. 7. 14. Mat. 20. 16. Reply answered In this you say you believe I speak truth and that I tell you here nothing but what you knew before and yet you murmure at it and cast your lyes upon it saying that we grant our selves to be none of Christs Church which who reads my answer may read what you have there to ground that lye on so though I speak what you know is truth and confess too yet it must not pass without lying and reproach but you shew your nature and for that you would go under the name of what they was that suffered I say the name will not cover you when you are as far from their nature as the sufferer from the persecuter and your Priests are Lords over us now as your fathers the Bishops was over them and whatever the dispensation is the persecuter is ever in the error though the sufferer bear the reproach and sufferings also and so it is now though the persecuter hath changed his name and form yet the same malice and work you are in Quer. 11. Whether you own the Resurrection of the body after death If not of what doth and shall Christs Kingdom consist for he can be no King without his Subjects Answ I say yea the Resurrection I own according to the Scriptures Reply answered In this you are not satisfied with a Scripture answer much less would you with mine and so puts it off with laying a slander on some namelesse man Quer. 12. Whether you acknowledge the Trinity of the Persons in the Godhead the Father the Son and the holy Ghost oue substance but three in subsistence or manner of beings Answ For the word Trinity thou mayst send it to Rome from whence it came but God the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost and that these three are one I know and acknowledge according to the Scriptures 1 Joh. 5. 7. Reply answered Your Reply to this is O subtile Deceiver c. And what is the fault because I will not own your word Trinity though I own the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost yet if I do not decline the Scripture phrase and take up the Romish I am a Deceiver and Etymologer and my pen stinks c. Well be it so such a Deceiver I shall be to own the Scripture and the sound words therein against all your Popish inventions And when you have thus railed against me because I will not own it then you accuse me for bringing it from Rome So that its a thing impossible to escape your tongues who are bent for mischief every way but it matters not seeing the reproach of the wicked is not onely safe but great riches Much more such smoak foames out at the pits mouth but not worth heeding such a Reply you may return to any Answer which is nought but bitterness and cursing and reviling so that you forget to speak to the Answer Quer. 13. Whether Jesus the Son of Mary incarnated in the flesh God-man in one person who died at Jerusalem upon the Cross rose from the death to life the third day and ascended on high into the highest heavens and sitteth on the right hand of God be the true Messiah as that you own and say is within you Answ Jesus the Son of God and Eternal Word which came down from God became flesh born of the Virgin God and Man who died at Jerusalem rose again ascended and sitteth at the right hand of the Father the true Messias which Christ we own to be within us which no carnal minde which denies his light can comprehend and Christ in you except ye be reprobates 1 Cor. 10. 4. Reply answered This you say is in some sort satisfactory but yet you say you have no faith to believe Christ within us I say I know you have not for did you believe Christ within there could not issue out all this mud and confusion uncondemned but though you cannot believe yet you can sl●nder that we are deluded but I look on it as the fruits of your unbeliefe and so pass it as not worth heeding being but a slander unproved Quer. 14. Whether the soul of man be mortal or immortal if mortal for what then did Christ Jesus suffer to purchase eternal glory and what profiteth holiness in life if immortal where then shall it abide after death since you say there is no heaven nor hell but in a mans conscience Answ The first part of this Quere I answer the soule is immortal but the latter part being made up of a lye I return it back into thy Fathers Bottle from whence it came till thou hast prov'd that ever I said there is no heaven nor hell but in a mans conscience Reply answered In this reply you call me Secret Deceipt and Lyar because I tell you of a lye you cast upon me in your Quere to wit that I say there is no heaven nor hell but in a mans conscience and because I will not bear it in silence but layes it open to be a lye therefore I am called Secret Deceipt for laying open your Secret Deceipt and now another must bear it who is not hear to answer for himselfe and so to excuse the lye you have discovered the backbiter who is shut out of the kingdom with the lyar And now Rich. Hubberthorn is named but you dare not say he ever said it least he should be neerer then you are aware to disprove you but least you should faile now you slander all our fraternity as you call it therewith which in truth is as much as to say no body for I am one but you clear me saying you cannot prove it against me so not all our fraternity so take the lye back til● you find a Father for it for with us it rests not Also take the other with it which sayes that it is usual with me to speak that in one breath which I will deny with another which when you prove I shall receive the lye till then let it rest upon the Founder For your scoffing

at the plow I am not ashamed of it knowing it to be a lawful employment much better then the hireling that works not at all but lives on other mens labours taking by violence what 's other mens labours but seeing the plow is a reproach with you why should not the tythes be so also which are a fruit of the plow but it seems there is a generation to whom the plow is a reproach but the sheaves gentile but the scorners will do scornfully Quer. 15. If you are perfectly f●ee from sin as you assert you are what then is the sting of death or are you in the flesh immortal on earth Answ 15. The former part of this Quere I return thee back wi●h the latter part of thy foregoing being both of one root but to the latter part I answer where the new birth is witnessed which is not of corruptible seed but incorruptible partakers of the Divine Nature the life of Christ made manifest in mortal flesh and where life and immortality is brought to light there the sting of death is seen to be abolisht on earth but this Cains generation knows not where death reigns and therefore would murther such as are translated from death to life Reply answered In this after your old manner your Reply is O incomparable hypocritical lyar And forthwith a challenge is made to try the contest whether you or I be the lyar And you say my own writings must decide the Controversie And the charge is that I have said expresly them who say they have faith and yet their life is not the life of Christ and say they cannot be saved from their sins in this world but in part them and their faith we deny So if I have not denied this in my Answer to this Query then you are the lyars but if I have then I must be he but have you not here with your hasty railing lost your senses to put your case to tryal in so plain a thing where there is not the least shew of a word seeming to deny this in the whole Answer neither is there one word here wherein perfection is asserted so stay till I assert it in my own behalfe till then your consequence from what another said will not clear your quere of a lye cast upon me but afterward you are made to confess your lyes in both queries in these words say you for charity take this that the former part of my last query and the latter part of this are both of one root to wit the false doctrine of your spirit which is a lying one so you confess to what I told you they was so the Controversie is decided in this business and the incomperable hypocritical lyar hath confessed to the lye and what spirit it is of Que. 16. And if you have no sin to what end is Christ beneficial as an Advocate Intercessor and Mediator or is he no such Answ 16. Christ that gives a man a light to see his sin who redeems and cleanseth him from sin is of use to us and all that knows him as the Mediator and of use to keep his from the wicked one and that he toucheth them not 1 John 5. 18. And the same who sets from sin is he that keeps free from sin and this benefit we have by him as Advocate Intercessor and Mediator Ephes 16. 17. Reply answered In this the pit mouth opens againe and outcomes O Secret Deceiver with a lye at the end of it and that is that I grant what I lately denied and that must be that I asserted that I am perfectly free from sin With another lye on the Apostle John the end of which is to deny Christ to be an Advocate for the righteous where sin is not committed your words are these But if any man sin not else we have an Advocate with the Father And then you conclude if you have no sin then is Christ useless So by your Doctrine to obtain the end of Christs comming which is to set free from sin is to make Christ useless when the same Apostle saith He that abides in Christ sins not doth he make Christ useless or is it not he alone that can keep that the evil one touch not in whom he is and they in him But the lyars never knew what it was to be in him nor kept by him further then to ●nbolden your selves in the worlds wickedness by talking of him you know not And it is no strange thing to see you pervert my words all into a lye when you date turn the Scriptures into a lye to deny Christ to be an Advocate unless men sin saying not else which the Scripture saith not so he is no Advocate in prayer with you and spiritual worship so you have said enough to shew your knowledge in Christ as he is Advocate Intercestor and Mediator Quere 17. And if you be perfect in purity what is the cause you are not also perfect in glory Answ 17. Perfect glory is perfect purity and every one according to their measures are glorified therewith but this world knows not whose glory fadeth neither can they judge of it with their impure spirit 2 Cor. 3. 18. And of this glory all the Saints have a measure in this life but the world hates it Reply answered What you say in this is suitable to the former and one answer is to both Quer. 18. And if you disown method in teaching I Quere whether you have any command against it and whether you esteem better then uniformity Answ 18. That method and teaching which is out of the Doctrine of Christ which is in the wisedom of man and in the wisdom of words of mans wisedom out of the unity of the light of Christ and his Spirit this we see to be confusion and not uniformity and against it we have a command which was judged with the spirit of the Apostles so do we 1 Cor. 2. Reply answered In this Answer I am rendred as a fool though before a subtile Sophister and you say rather deserve to be laughed at then in the least to be replied to I say had you said as little to all the rest you had shewed more wisdom and less lying though your scornful laughter I justifie not Quer. 19. Whether ever intentively the Gospel was promised to be made known or practically that it was made known without the means to wit the Ministration of man if not why then do you resist it Answ 19. The Gospel was made known and promised intnetively and practically to the servants and children of God without the Ministration of man as to Adam Enoch Noah Abraham Isaiah and all the Propets John Baptist Simeon the Shepherds Paul and divers others and the same he doth at this day and none can limit him nor do I resist what meanes he uses but such as resist his works deny his light and would limit him Gen. 3. 15. Gen. 9 9. Gen. 17. 7. Luk. 3. 20. Luk. 2. 10.

in you blind busie minds vvill be babbling you knovv not as the least Child of light shall judge yon And seeing you are telling of Paradise of the fall of man and the Law written in his heart and many such things your curious mind runs into give an Answer in plainness to these Queries so shall we make farther publique proof of what you have learned and of whom whether of Christ or of the Serpent which you call Christ 1. WHither and from what did man fall seeing God spake to him in the Garden after his fa● And whether the Resurrection must be to that from whence he fell or no 2. What death that was Adam died that day he eat the forbidden seeing Adam lived many hundred years after 3. What was the ground of Adams obedience before the fall and what is the ground of mans obedience in Christ and wherein do they differ and in what particulars 4. Is it possible that any Believer can bring forth the same fruits in Christ that was in man before the fall or fruits better or fruits not so good or in what particular shall they differ as to the ground and rise thereof And also as to the acceptance with God 5. What the seed of the Serpent is and what the seed of the Woman is and whether they be within people or no and whether they can both rule in one person at once and whether the seed of the Woman must not be where the Serpent is when he br●●es his head and what is it that can let every particular man see this done if he mind it 6. Whether that law of the new Covenant spoken on Heb. 8. which is by the Lord written in the heart be the same in every particular with that which you say was writ in Adams heart before the fall or wherein does it differ and how may the difference be known 7. Where is that City the Saints were fellow Citizens of what it is and how may one know when they are in it and whether any that commits sin is in that City yea or no 8. What is that beast that rose up out of the Sea and what that beast that came up out of the Earth wherein do they differ how may they be known that men may not worship neither of them 9. What is that which is dead in trespasses and sins in an unbeliever and whether the reading of the Letter can quicken it or can any understand the Letter while they are so dead 10 What that mystery of faith is that is held in a pure Conscience since you say the faith and knowledge of the Disciples was not within and whether that faith and knowledge that is from without not within can save and bring to know God 11. What faith and knowledge that is which you say is without a man and how may any know when they have it 12. How must the Gospel be made known to the soul seeing you say it is not made known by seeing within 13. The Word of God at the first being the Matter wheron the Image of God was made in man how comes it now to be changed seeing you now say the mind and will of man is the Matter and then the M●nistry of man as the Matter and is not this blasphemous confusion 14. Seeing you 〈…〉 Letter of the Law was given nor was they imputed what was the cause of the Old World drowning and Sodom and Gomorrahs burning with fire and whether was not their sins imputed to them 15. What the soul of man is and how a creature may know when it is in death and when it is raised to life eternal 16. What that grace of God is that brings salvation and hath appeared to all men and how it hath appeared to all men and how it brings salvation 17. What that inward man is that is renewed dayly though the outward man perish seeing you say the new birth is nothing else but a sanctified mind and whether the new birth be a substance yea or no 18. Whether such as have changed their manner of worship from that manner which the Saints worshipped in and then wrest the Scriptures to uphold it be true worshippers or can be truely said to take the Scriptures for their rule 19. Whether ever any Minister of Christ did go into the Idols Temple to pray and worship in that manner you do in any one particular or did they sue people for Tythes or Money for so doing did they or their Hearers bear in their Synagogues or hale before Rulers such as opposed them or did they ever make use of an outward Law to inflict upon any mans person or to spoyle their goods or was they who did so any Christians 20. What is the Cross of Christ and how doth the Creature take it up and how is it preached and what is the offence of it and how is it the power of God to salvation and how doth it become a stumbling block and how doth the offence of it cease 21. How is Christ the light of the world and how is it he lighteth every man that cometh into the world 〈…〉 and how are all things that are made manifest upon us by the light and what is the cause that so many remain in darkness 22. What that tongue of the Egyptian Sea is and how must it be smitten in the seven streams that men may go over dryshoed 23. Whether the new birth be not Christ formed in the Creature and whether that be not a substance and are not you utterly blind who sayes its nothing else but a sanctified mind and the will of man and his Ministry is the matter of it Answer plainly and do not send a deal of railing and mis-calling and bitterness lying and false accusing in stead of Answers as you have hitherto done Also view my former Queries over again and your pretences and for shame never call those for Answers which scarcely answer to the true end of any one particular FINIS