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A33521 A word to the upright for help and preservation in these erring dayes by errours detected, in a book, called, A testimony for the truth, Christ and his light, by some that go by the name of Quakers, wherein they manifest their foundation for salvation, which they call, the Christ of God / by him who seeks the well-fare of all men, Robert Cobbet. Cobbet, Robert. 1668 (1668) Wing C4775; ESTC R40844 31,405 34

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helper which is Christ in whom the Covenant of Grace that God hath made to man by Christs blood being incorporated God hath promised to send it forth as the prisoner of hope that is in the deep pit in which there is no waters Behold I shew you a mystery ye men in the Clouds Christ whom God hath sealed by the anointing for a Saviour being the product of the Holy Ghost to a coagelated substance from the properties of man in Mary is that holy thing the anointed in the womb that was born free whom 't was not possible for death to with-hold who being without sin had not that body of death that could be with-held by death but because the Children had the body of death he that was the Lord from Heaven having flesh of life laid down his life to wit his body into our dead bodies that we that were dead might live as said thy dead men shall rise with my dead body But this Lord Jesus through the guile of most of your Leaders is deny'd and Jesus being thus the Creation of God is the only begotten of the Father whom the Disciples saw and bore record unto who being the Fathers delight whom he foresaw from Everlasting that he would send when the fulness of time was come promiseth to him that the spirit should rest upon him to make him of a quick understanding the spirit of wisdom and counsel of might and knowledge and the fear of the Lord who being indued with the vertue of God by which he poured out his soul unto God in which travel knew of his justifying of many touching the body of our Lord this is the matter you know he saith that he proceeded from Heaven and that his flesh was meat indeed and his blood was drink indeed and that he would give his flesh for the life of the world and he that eates his flesh and drinks his blood hath Eternal Life which body of our Lord being of the Heavenly substance as it was circumscribed was the body of his personality that he gave for an offering for the Ransom of the world which body being of and from the nature of Heaven he gave it that we by it may have an interest through that body into the Heavens the Kingdome the Father hath prepared for them that love him and do believe on him whom God hath sent Thus have I given you an account of Jesus as to his Body Soul and Spirit who as he thus consisted was that form of God and express Image of his Fathers Substance whose day the Patriarchs and Prophets saw in the Spirit and rejoyced to see with whom the Apostles being conversers with bore witness to him who is the truth and to such a one confession was made in all ages by the believers till the coming of George Fox and his Disciples and being found in form and fashion as a man gave up his life into the grave of death by which he broke open the grave of eternal death by which he overcame him that had the power of death that is the Devil and delivered his Children from out of the Eternal Death by which they was held in bondage all their life long whence is that saying O Death where is thy Grave O Sin where is thy Sting O Hell where is thy Victory For know that the death of the Lord was a Revolution a passing out or through the principle of this visible world into the principle of the invisible world where saith Paul He now is an Advocate for man with God and being gone out of the visible into the invisible as he was in the visible I know him so no more but as man is brought into the invisible where he is there I have seen him and so did John Paul and Stephen Now God being in this man Christ as declared Christ is that God-man in his own person that hath brought again the dead to life Page the fifth Querie about Christ being Formity as if King was his humane body equal with God when in that body said My Father is greater then I Brethren we have proved before the personality of Christ and that he was the express Image of God in his person and since that you know that it is written that God at sundry times and in divers manners spake to the Fathers and Prophets but now saith he speaks to us by his Son on whose shoulders the Government for our peace should lie whom God hath made heir of all things who when he had by himself purged away our sins for that he was made a little lower then the Angels for the suffering of death that by his tasting of death for every man he might bring many Sons unto Glory for that it became him for whom are all things and by whom are all things to make the Captain of our Salvation perfect by sufferings by which dispute 't is out of doubt 't was Christ he spake of as he was in that form wherein he suffered death and not the light that is a principle of a diffusive property for the light is not his equal that he saith is his fellow to whom he said Sit thee at my right hand till I make thy enemies thy foot-stool but of him he saith Thy Throne O God is from Everlasting to everlasting the Scepter of thy Kingdom is a Scepter of Righteousness and of thy Rule there shall be no end and for his equallity with his Father it must be allowed for that it saith That having fulfilled the work that his Father gave him to do which was the finishing of mans Salvation ascended up unto the Throne of his Glory that God promised to him as his reward for the Redemption of man according to that that was the will of God But in that he said My Father is greater then I He speaks there as he was in his Servants state who while there stood differed nothing from a Servant though Lord of All for then he had not accomplished mans redemption which was the end for which he was sent into the world but having done the will by finishing mans Redemption takes the Throne of the Everlasting Kingdom that to him was promised and sits him down at the right hand of God in the Majesty on high where he is Gods fellow Now then is the confusion on my part who write to you the truth or on yours that deny the truth but if you will blind-fold your own understandings and trample the Pearle under your feet and turn again and rend me you shall be rebuked of God Now having cleared my self to you before God and my Lord and Master Jesus Christ if you will not receive it your destruction is of your selves Page the sixth Charge me with contradiction in saying Christ hath begotten us Children to God by his spirit and that by it he hath put us into a capacity to take of the waters of life and to drink freely in that I say that as to our Redemption it
himself by which offering broke down the middle wall of partition that stood against us and the hand-writing of Ordinances nailing our sins upon the Cross by which he made of that that was twain one having by death made peace which blood being the blood of his Humanity as he was creture was that that did with God expiate for sin Wherefore I aske thee Was it the God-head that was in Christ that dyed for the sins of the world or was it the Man-head that the God-head assumed to himself from the Lines of Adam that had fallen from bliss for whom an Offering must be made with blood I aske was it the Godhead in Christ upon whom the Cross lay by reason that man had sinned or was it the soul of Christ as Christ was man upon whom the Cross lay that offered himself up an Offering for sin in that it is written The Soul that sinneth shall dye I aske was it the Godhead in Christ that was the Offering that satisfied by death for sin or was it Christ in his person that bore our grief and carried our sorrows I aske was it the God-head in Christ that was smitten by the appointment of Pilate when Christ stood before his judgment-seat or was it the man Christ in his person I ask was the blood and the water that ran out of the side of the Lord which the Souldier pierc't the God-heads blood or the blood of Jesus as he was man in his person I aske was the body that was nailed upon the Cross which bore away our sins the God-head or was it the cretural body of our Lord I aske was the spirit of our Lord which groaned to God for Lazarus to rise from death the Deity or his own spirit as he was cretural since he said Father into thy hand I commit my spirit I ask was the soul of the Lord Jesus which his Father would not leave in Hell the God-head or was it the Man-head since he said My soul is heavy unto death and prayed that if it was possible the Cup might pass from him I aske was the Sacrifice that was so sweet a savour in the nostrils of God the God-head that was put to death or was it the Humanity of the Lord that became the Atoner for the world since not possible for the God-head to dye I ask did the Sacrifices of the Law type to the God-head of Christ as that by death he should satisfie for the sins of the world or did they type to Christ in his person to be the sacrifice since that God is neither Nature nor Creture I ask did the God-head cry My God my God when Christ was on the Cross why hast thou forsaken me or did the man Christ cry My God my God why hast thou forsaken me since the God-head cannot forsake it self I ask was the light Christ you say that was in that body Christ that body that God prepared to do his will or that body Christ with Soul and Spirit since the light is not no compaction consisting in a personal attraction that it should have flesh and blood for a body to suffer death since it is written only of Christ that God dwelt bodily in Christ in the fulness of his God-head and that it doth not any where speak of the light Christ in that person Christ unless it be in your own Books whereof indeed your Books are full therefore I conclude that the Christ that did lay down his life for a Saviour for man was not the light in conscience but Jesus of Nazareth King of the Jews Now what shall I say but that the man Christ Jesus our Lord is both Lord and Christ and him hath God sealed for Christ and Saviour as he was in his person born of Mary which Simeon took up in his arms blessing God for performing to him his word that to him he had spoken Page the eighth ask that if the Light Prophets and Patriarks had they was not to trust in it for salvation perfection and justification how did it lead them to fear God when in all Nations he that feared God and wrought righteousness is accepted and not the hearers of the Law but the doers of the Law shall be justified Why are you Preachers since you know not the truth for know not you that it is said If there had been a Law given that could have gave life then righteousness had been by that Law but saith it not the Law hath concluded all under sin therefore the words asserted by you are not rightly applyed for that they relate not but to the Covenant of works as man stood related to God by nature but man not capable to keep the Law by reason of his sinfulness of flesh the Covenant of Grace came in that required faith on him that fulfilled the Law for man taking upon him the Curse that to us was due for sin the just died for the unjust who fulfilling the Law is the end of the Law to every one for righteousness that on him doth believe and that since by the Law man could not have life for that all had sinned and come short of the Glory the Covenant of Grace by faith o● Christ hath offered it self to bring m●n into the Glory for the Law saith Cursed be he that continueth not to do all things contained in the Law and he that doth the Law shall be justified by the Law and he that breaks the Law shall be condemned by the Law and the Law wrote in mans heart being the same Law that was wrote on Tables of stone so many as have sinned in the Law shall perish by the Law and so many as have sinned without Law shall perish without Law for saith he that when the Gentiles which have not the Law do by nature the things contained in the Law these having not the Law are a Law unto themselves which show the work of the Law wrote in their hearts their consciences bearing witness and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another wherefore he saith by works no man shall be justified in Gods sight Now then if our justification be not by the Law nor by works done by the Law How say you that the light in Patriarks and Prophets was that that justified them and made them perfect and faith it not that by faith Abraham was justified and his faith was accounted to him for Righteousness who seeing the day of Christ rejoyced but since it is for a certain that that that did for man make peace with God was the blood of Jesus which God made Covenant with that by it he would send forth the prisoner out of the pit wherein there is no waters wherefore it is written He that believeth shall be saved but he that believeth not shall be damned And is not the saying of Simeon come upon you that the child Iesus should be set for the falling and the rising again of many in Israel and for a sign to
person and not the light in conscience my reason is that if he had not been as he was creture of Soul and spirit as I am as I am nature what he had done as another Seed it had been of little avail for me so that the Seed that broke the Serpents head is not some strange thing that I am not of as I am creture by abstract from nature consisting of soul and spirit but of kind and substance as am I which he being made of from the nature of Mary by which she became creture as the off-spring of Adam doth consist of soul and spirit as do I in which soul he broke the Serpents head by drinking up the Cup of the Wine-press of God alone having none to help him who knowing the bitterness of the Cup prays that if it was possible the Cup might pass from him but knowing that it was not possible in that there was no other means by which the Serpents head could be broke and the Fathers justice satisfied in mans soul for that he had sinned saith But not my will be done but thy will be done Holy Father for this hour came I into the world and if his soul was not of man that he satisfied the justice of God with that stuck in it for its transgression man at this day is in a miserable state but being out of doubt that the soul of Christ was in properties of and from nature and creture made by Generation from the properties of Mary is that Seed God did promise to send to break the Serpents head by treading the Wine-press of wrath alone putting his soul in our souls stead the just ●…d for the unjust the Lord laid upon him the iniquity of us all saith the Scriptures Thus he is the Captain of our salvation and our High Priest for ever who as he is the Word Wisdome Power Life Light and Love of God hath no beginning of dayes nor end of life but as he was made flesh in that capacity hath beginning of days and end of this temporal life as it is to you before declared who is the wonder of Eternity that the word the maker of all things and the filler of all things should become personally flesh in a body in time to transinute time into Eternity by bringing of Eternity into time which indeed is according to promise where 't is said The Ea●… shall hear the Heavens and great shall be the increase thereof And this is the wonder spoken of by God where 't is said Behold I will do a wonder in the Earth a Virgin shall conceive bring forth a man-child without a man he being dead and buried but raised from the dead is he that hath the power over Hell and Death to give life and immortality to whomsoever he will according to Scripture that saith as the Father hath power to give life to whom he will So hath the Son power to give life to whomsoever he will therefore 't is said that thy dead body shall arise with my dead body which came to pass in that day the Lord arose from the dead as saith the Scriptures The Graves were opened and many bodies of Saints which slept arose and came out of the Graves after his Resurrection and went into the Holy City and appeared to many so that he that is dead is alive and liveth for evermore to intercede for us to God as that our High Priest and great Bishop of our souls that doth enlighten the world as he is maker of the world with the light of the world from the principle of light that he hath form'd and determining to give some more better thing unto his Saints from that he is the Lord the Redeemer as the man Christ Jesus my Lord giveth to them his spirit according to promise who is to them their life of light and that the world might know and believe to the receiving the promise sent forth his Apostles to preach the minifestation of life for the obedience of faith for the receiving the promise but asking what that he was so often spoken of that took flesh and blood the children had and took on him the Seed of Abraham what saith R. C. to this was it Christ yea or nay R. C. saith that that he you Query of is God that was in Christ the Babe born of Mary to reconcile by Christ the world unto himself that they might not perish in their sins And this Christ being born of Mary who was of the Liniage of Abraham from whom came David according to the Line of the Covenant Christ coming from Mary proceeded from David after the flesh and God forming himself with and in that body Christ for its Saviour to man was the power to Christ by which Christ brought forth mans salvation But what shall I say unto you do you sport with God hath it not been his pleasure to become one with man in that person Christ for us salvation to bring to pass you know it saith God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself but could he or did he without the body of Christ reconcile and is it not the body of Christ by which we are reconciled unto God yes verily for so saith the Scriptures and the condemnation in the creture being a consuming fire must be quenched with that that is of force to take away the cause or else it cannot be but 't will consume and nothing can change its force but the vertue of his blood which being the Sacrifice that makes the peace that he offered up unto God him to atone for sinful man and if that it could not have been that the soul of Christ could not have overcome the wrath of God that stuck in mans nature for his sins by his obedience in drinking up the Cup by which he trod the Wine-press of his Fathers wrath alone it could not have been that the soul of man could ever possibly have broke through the Angels sword set by God to keep the way of the Tree of Life from sinful man to take of its fruit that he might live but God knowing it not possible for poor man to overcome the Eternal Death chose the Seed of Abraham which was Christ to become one with him that by him Christ might overcome him that had the power of death that is the Devil by what for us he hath done and suffered but if you will not take salvation from God by Christ who is the way the means the truth and the life Let your power you say you feel be what it will it matters nothing to me you shall die in your sins for that he is as himself hath said the door and he that entreth in by him shall find pastour but he that climbeth up some other way he is a thief and a robber and breaketh in but to steal Page the Twelfth Accuse me of wronging you and your principles in saying you center in Nature instead of Grace to so speak is