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B12204 An ansvvere to a letter of a Iesuited gentleman, by his cosin, Maister A.C. Concerning the appeale; state, Iesuits Copley, Anthony, 1567-1607?; Champney, Anthony, 1569?-1643?, attributed name. 1601 (1601) STC 5735; ESTC S108680 66,056 126

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before anie of them was able to free it selfe from that Empire hauing euer since all but the time of the Heptarchie stood selfelie-Monarchike and in paragon with either Fraunce or Spaine and other the greatest Monarchies of christendome as well for the honours of warre as of peace a nation which hath twice conquered Fraunce and as for Spaine was able to free her neck from the Danish yoke the Dane being a nation full of valour within one 24. yeeres the Spaniard not performing his like freedome from the Moore being a base and obscure nation vnder 700 a nation which was able to bring in a Dolphin of Fraunce with all the martiall-flower of that kingdome to make vse of here at home euen in ciuill warres amongst our selues and that done safelie to acquite it selfe againe of him them which what nation in christendome but England would haue aduentured a nation whose Empire hath extended from the I le of Thule to the Pirenean-mounts simul semel and that in setled peace as we may read in the raigne of king Henrie the second a nation which hath beene able to send forth armies and Armadoes as farre as the holie land and performed more seruice for God and his church there then any other nay then all other christian people concurring in the same a nation that hath made other countries both afraid and beholding to it and as we read great Princes yea and an Emperour her Pensioners a nation that hath furnisht Saint Peters sea with two excellent good Popes and the Catholicke church with as manie Saints and deepe learned men and at this day doth as anie countrie in christendome besides it being the first begotten childe of the same our Ladies Dowre briefe a nation which at this day euen vnder a woman and as the Spaniard and Iesuits pretend in her vniust vndertakings hath hitherto bin able to make her partie good against all the world maintaining it selfe in peace when all her neighbour-states round about her are on fire such a nation I say to cease now at length her Monarchicke-honour and become vassall to Spaine or any nation in the world be it by title or conquest or whatsoeuer pretence yea of religion oh how dishonourable and abominable were it to true English-nature and valour and scandalous to all the world Prouinciall I say for so should it be were it either vnder the brother or the sister of Spaine seeing that neither of their states Spaine or Flaunders would agree his or her throne to be out of them and in faith for England to be ruled by a Prince out of the land which neuer yet was seene since England was England as little reason it hath as well for her profit as for her honour If in Spaine it is too farre off if in Flaunders neither yet is that neere enough besides that all those Prouinces make but an Archduke which is farre vnder the honour of a realme such as England is whose Crowne is and euer was Emperiall both for waight and fashion Then to be gouerned by their deputies say vice-royes which the Infanta cannot afford being her selfe no Queene how displeasing that were on the otherside the calamities of Flaunders may any time these 30. yeers and yet at this day teach vs. For what cutting off of the Nobilitie of the land came in with the Duke of Alua and what oppression of the commons and with and for them both what warres and waste of those estates to this houre The like perhaps may be alleaged of Ireland vnder her Maiesties deputies at least the Irishrie so pretend iustifiying their present rebellion vpon their harsh hand ouer them though questionles herein they haue little reason but rather doe bite and whine at once are turnd rebels for not knowing in their sauagerie when they are well who were it Queene Maries dayes how ere they herewith pretend religion as little would they be loyall They want but to haue tasted the Spaniard a while to become true againe to England As for the Infantaes estate here if of the two that be it the Iesuits had rather and that withall her own countrie would assent to her residence here besides the absurdities and inconueniences hereof alreadie cited this is another and not the least to wit the vnlikelihood of her euer hauing issue being issue-lesse at these yeeres whereby would remaine the same vncertaintie of an English heire after her that now is In lieu whereof what factions were it not likelie shee would during her raigne ouer vs maintaine for her brother his heires succession to the Crowne what ielousies nay perhaps what not ciuil wars she being a partie alreadie aggreeued for the supposed wrongs done by England both to her father and her brother for which she would happilie thinke by this meanes to make them full amends or at least if such her practise should not preuaile to shew her selfe in so assaying a verie louing sister It is not her laying open her Low-countries and her brothers dominions no not his Indies to our trafficke in the meane time which aswell is like to come to passe ere long God willing through their inforced amitie with vs can counteruaile this hazard alone muchlesse all the aforesaid Nor is it yet halfe an age since the Spanish nation being admitted into our countrie in al loue and in the greatest knot of amitie that may be imagined to wit by the mariage of their Prince with ours at what time and that in how short a time we were as willing to be rid of thē through their ill deseruings as some of our countrie men with the losse of their liues shewed themselues alittle afore vnwilling of their comming we may yet verie well remember We may yet very well remember the chargeable vse they then made of our coūtry in their own wars both by land sea our losse of Caleis the while We may yet remēber their insolence amongst vs proude misgouernance to the contempt of our nobilitie much more of our commons for which no sooner was that knot between the two nations broken by the death of that blessed Queene but straight they were made to know how great disgust they had giuen vs with the losse of some of their liues for a farewell If then comming in as friends they deserued as foes at our countries hands how much more comming in as foes though nere somuch vnder the couert of religious friends may wee thinke to find them cruell and tyrannous namelie hauing had since so much matter of reuenge ministred them from hence as they assume Or why did they not then if their title were such to the Crowne of England as the Iesuits suggest make vse of that oportunitie for their subiecting vs But sure it seemes t was not the will of God both for that they tooke no such counsaile then and also if they meant anie such matter Gods sequestring the Spanish Prince from out the realme and taking away the Queene