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A49323 Du Moulin's Reflections reverberated being a full answer to a pernicious pamphlet entituled Moral reflections on the number of the elect : together with several arguments against transubstantiation of the outward elements in the sacrament of the Lords Supper, transubstantiated into falshood and absurdity : to which is added a postscript in answer to some passages in Mr. Edmund Hickeringil's scurrilous piece stiled The second part of naked truth / by Edward Lone ... Lane, Edward, 1605-1685. 1681 (1681) Wing L331; ESTC R10768 106,099 120

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speak so doubtfully in this weighty Matter with a may be As much as to say the Efficacy of Redemption may be excellent or it may not be so and whatsoever it is 't is only for those whom God hath a mind to save q. d. Let Christ suffer what he will let him give a full satisfaction by his Death to Divine Justice for the sin of the world yet God hath no mind to save any but a very few in some parts of the world This is your Sense But had you said 't is only for those whom you your self have a mind shall be saved this indeed had been Answerable to that height you have Skrewed your poor Phansie up unto viz. To judg the world as you please But you are pleased here to refer it to Gods mind methinks however you might have found out some sitter Word for this purpose that had been more for the Honour and Majesty of the most high God than to talk so boldly of the mind of God in this Case But possible it is thus with you because you pretend to know the Mind of God and to be his Privy Counsellor being that as I have said already which hath made you to cast up your Accounts so exactly and judicially of your Thousands hundred Thousands and Millions that shall be damned Had you said here as it hath been wont to be said by all Christians that are wise and honest the work of Redemption is only for those that are in Covenant with God and that believe the Gospel this had been according to the mind of God but these terms you were willing to wave because you know that Faith is the gift of God and he gives it to whomsoever he pleaseth which would have made your Reflection retort upon you whereupon it is that you talk of the Mind of God at large But hath this indeed been the Mind of God to lay such Restraints upon the sufferings of his Beloved Son that the Efficacy of them shall reach but to a sew And consequently hath this been the Mind of God by an Eternal Decree to damn all his poor Creatures who are the Masterpiece of his Creation for ever excepting one in a Million Gen. 1. O that ever any that beareth the face of a Man should dare to speak so wickedly of God What is this but to make the Father of Mercies and the God of all Consolations more cruel than all the Tyrants that ever were in the World yea than all the Devils that are in Hell For they are but Gods Executioners it is God himself that hath passed this doom neither can the Merits of his only begotten Son our dear Redeemer be of force to reverse it Away therefore with this cursed Opinion most abominable in the hearing of all Mankind The very Heathen will certainly abhor it yea and hate that Religion which maintains it Nay they will be ready to Defie and Blaspheme that God who shall harbour so cruel a Mind and say as one of them said in the like Case Qualis malum Deus isbe est what a kind of God with a Mischief is this whose mind is set to damn and destroy so infinite a number of People whom he had made as they say after his own Image and Likeness Upon these and the like Considerations that shall follow I hope Mounsiour you will retract these your Reflections and be sorry that you have given so great offence by them both to God and his Church Reflector When Jesus Christ Prayed for those that Crucified him he did particularly mark out those in Act 2.36 37. who would Repent at the Preaching of St. Peter Answer Christ's Prayer upon the Cross for those that Crucifyed him was this viz. Father forgive them and the Reason why he so Prayed was not as you seem to imagine For they will Repent That is far short of his meaning neither is it suitable to that Philanthropy that was in him towards them nor to the Elevation of his Mind unto his Father which was fixed no doubt upon his Fathers purpose to save the World by him of which they were ignorant for saith he they know not what they do From whence it may be gathered that they who ignorantly transgress as the greatest part of the World do may be more capable of mercy than they who sin presumptuously as the Apostle St. Paul saith of himself 1 Tim. 1.13 I obtained Mercy because I did it ignorantly in Vbelief We read indeed Joh. 17.20 21. that Christ Prayed also for them who should believe on him through the word of his Apostles that they all might be one in him that so the world may believe that the Father had sent him which otherwise might have been brought into Question after his departure by the Divisions and Dissentions that might arise among his Disciples But that when he Prayed for those that Crucified him he did particularly as you say mark them out Act 2.36 37. who would Repent at the Preaching of St. Peter this is your particular Phansie groundless and unwarrantable And will you still thus shuffle with the holy Scripture to make it serve your turn for it is very obvious to all that read you why you force these Scriptures together that are so incoherent You would like a wary Fencer ward off a Thrust which you foresaw might have touch'd you to the Quick But fear it not poor man for it will be easily granted you that none but those who are born again shall ever be saved But you likewise must grant that both Faith and Repentance are the gift of God and that Gods Mercy in the free bestowing his gifts is not to be limited to time or Means for the Conversion of those that are chosen to Life Eternal as you may find it clearly proved in my Antidote but that this Mercy may be secretly and suddenly dispensed to millions of millions in the World by the gracious Work of the good Spirit of God in and upon the Hearts of men before they die and that sometimes in the very instant of their departure out of this Life This being so your Accounts will fail you of your hundred Thousands and Millions that shall perish in Hell for ever in comparison of one that shall be saved Reslector And though there should be but one saved for a hundred Thousand that should perish and be lost yet Grace would sub-abound in this one Person saved where sin had abounded as in the Example of the Thief Luk. 23.40 41. Answer The words of the Apostle that you harp upon are these Where sin abounded Rom. 5.20.21 Grace did much more abound That as Sin bath Reigned unto Death even so Grace might Raign through Righteousness unto Eternal Life by Jesus Christ our Lord. A most comfortable place of Scripture this is written on purpose to magnifie the glorious Grace of God now under the Gospel towards poor Sinners that Repent And will you thus limit it to one particular Person