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A85262 The scorner rebuked, or, A reply to an atheistical libeller. Field, John, 1652-1723.; Batt, Jasper, d. 1702. 1693 (1693) Wing F864D; ESTC R177046 11,657 24

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altho this A●thor pretends to know and practice the Doctrine according to Godliness he appears more like an Atheist filled with Scorn and Derision for he proceeds But if he will not part with any of it follow my Directions thou mayest obtain it thy self is not this like Simon Magus and p. 7. He farther proceeds in his deriding manner thus Deny Scripture Revile Magistrates reproach Ministers cast off Ordinances gratify the desires of thy Carnal heart follow the Dictat●s of thy muddy Brains whenever thy giddy head turns rou●d pretend to Visions and Revelations And when thou art thus accoutered Read the Quakers Books and keep close to their silent Meetings and thou art in a very fair way to get this rare secret Now if this be like one studious to know and practice Godliness or a scoffing Atheist I leave to his Master Hallet and his Master Tross and the rest of their Brethren with all that read this to Judge whether this is the way to attain unto the Light of Jesus Christ I.N. desired his Reader to keep his mind near unto which is that which shines in Peoples Hearts and Consciences and shews them Sin and manifests the corrupt desires of their Carnal Hearts and lets them see they are sinners against God and Christ And will lead and guide all those that believe in it and receive it unto Gods Holy Hill and to his Tabernacles and by walking in it they will come to know a being Cleansed from all Unrighteousness by the Blood of Jesus Christ But he goes on p. 7. 1. Quest Is this Light of Jesus Christ in the heart and Conscience God or Creature finite or infinite Answer The Life in the Word that was in the Beginning with God and was God is the true Light that lighteth every man that cometh into the World and is not a Creature or finite Then he proceeds to his 2d Question for he puts great stress on 3 or 4. Questions for he hath propounded and bids put home these Questions and if he do not boggle or Equivocate it s ten to one but he will betray gross Ignorance Oh the conceit he hath of his own Questions come le ts hear and Answer his second 2 Quest p. 7. Is it Christ himself who was Crucified without the Walls of Jerusalem or something distinct from Christ Answer The Life which is the Light of Men is the Life and Light of the same Christ who was born of the Virgin Mary was put to Death upon the Cross as concerning the flesh quickened and raised by the Spirit and ascended into Glory Yet this his Divine Life and Light never dyed nor was put to death But he follows his Question thus If he say it is Christ himself enquire of him whether this Light is in every mans heart and Conscience was born of the Virgin Mary Suffered under Pontius Pilate dyed upon the Cross ascended into Heaven after its Resurrection and sitteth at the right hand of God all these things we know are true of Christ Answ And so say I all these things are true of Christ according to the Flesh altho we do not believe him to be so i. e. according to the flesh in every man yet he is owned by us called Quakers according unto holy Scripture Testimony both in the flesh and in the Spirit see Peter 3.18 and Heb. 2.18 for in that he himself hath suffered and also Acts 17.3 and Heb 13.12 Wherefore Jesus also that he might sanctify the People with his own Blood suffered without the Gate And none of this is Blasphemy to neither doth this betray gross Ignorance on our parts but of his as may further appear in answer to his other Questions 3. Quest If he say it is something distinct from Christ ask him whether it be a Body or Spirit Answ This is Answered in Reply to the former that it was Christ himself that suffered as concerning the flesh and was quickened and raised by the Spirit And this Author saith p. 14. That God suffered but t is Blasphemy to say the Godhead suffered And if he either thought we had or expected we should affirm that that Divine Life and Light of Christ we profess believe in and expect Salvation by did ever dye he is grosly mistaken for we own Christ in the Flesh and Christ in the Spirit Christ within and Christ without to be but one and the same Christ under different appearances and all they that will impartially Examine our Christian Doctrines by the Holy Scriptures like the noble Bareans will find them according thereunto notwithstanding this Author saith Perhaps he may hereafter shew the contrary But we fear him not And he proceeds in his Question thus Whether it be a Body or a Spirit if he say it is a Body as Barklay T is Vehiculum Dei the Spiritual Body of Christ the Flesh and Blood of Christ which came down from Heaven Desire him to deal freely with thee as a friend and inform thee how this flesh and blood can be in so many thousand Hearts and Consciences at once as there are Men and Women upon the face of the Earth how can a Body reach from Pensilvania to Exon. p. 7. Answ 1st As to these Questions because he puts such a stress on them I have taken the more notice of them as to that Light of Jesus Christ in the heart which he queries whether it be a Body or Spirit we say it is the Life of that Word that was God and was in the beginning with God by whom all things were made And as to the Humane Nature of Christ he saith himself p 14 It was a Creature and Rob. Barkley doth not say the Godhead is a Creature so that Rob. Barkley doth not want to be reconciled unto George Whitehead nor their Doctrines unto Truth But this Pamphleteer goes on Reasoning or querying like the unbelieving Jews who said how can this Man give us his Flesh to Eate and saith this Adversary How this Flesh and Blood of Christ can be in so many thousand Hearts and Consciences as once and how a Body can reach from Pensilvania to Exon. By which it appears to me notwithstanding his Learning he shews himself ignorant for he saith unless you ea●e my fl sh and drink my blood you have no life in you Joh. 6.53 again he saith he that eateth my fl sh and drinketh my blood dwelleth in me and I in him and I will raise him up at the last day A Mystery I fear this Libeller doth not understand for as if Believers in Christ in Exon and P●nsilvania could not both partake of the Flesh of Christ is not this to limit him For he saith p. 8. If we Read Christ in y●u then this is the Sence viz. Those saving Graces Fai h and Love c. by which Christ dwells in our hearts And can any of these saving Graces be wrought in the Heart but by Christ and if he works them there must he not be